[Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems

Ron Jarrell jarrell at vt.edu
Fri Sep 13 17:16:28 CEST 2002 

You've screwed your permissions up (or ran some portion of mailman as the 
wrong user - accidentally running stuff as root can do it, because most of 
mailman runs as mailman.)

qrunner can't write it's lock file, so you're queue isn't running.

run /home/mailman/bin/check_perms and see what it bitches about.  You'll 
probably end up running it as root with the "-f" option to fix things.  You 
might need to run it more than once in a row, until it stops complaining 
about things.

At 04:09 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
>ooooooops.......sorry about that
>
>Re did it and got this this time:
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 276, in ?
>     lock.lock(timeout=0.5)
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 219, in lock
>     self.__write()
>   File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 350, in __write
>     fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
>'/home/mailman/locks/qrunner.lock.www.sportnetwork.net.19751'
>
>elp!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron Jarrell" <jarrell at vt.edu>
>To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
>Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
>Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems
>
>
> > At 03:58 PM 9/13/02 +0100, John Wards wrote:
> > >I do this:
> > >  /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron qrunner
> > >
> > >I get this out!
> > >
> > >Dzcrontab.in
> > >     ^
> > >SyntaxError: invalid syntax
> > >
> > >Any clues?
> >
> >
> > Yea... Re-read the example below and fix your typo :-).  There's no space
> > between cron and qrunner, it's a slash...  You told it to run a directory,
> > and python is finding the internal binary format of the directory entries
> > to be not very understandable as source code.
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>
> > >To: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
> > >Cc: <mailman-users at python.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:36 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Qmail & BSD further problems
> > >
> > >
> > > > So is the problem that the mail is simply sitting in the Mailman queue
> > > > directory without being delivered?
> > > >
> > > > Try running qrunner by hand:
> > > >   su - mailman
> > > >   /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner
> > > >
> > > > Check your qmail log files before and after running the above.  Do the
> > > > same with your mailman log files.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck
> > > >
> > > > Jon Carnes
> > > > ===
> > > > On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 04:22, John Wards wrote:
> > > > > Can anyone help me on this? I really need a mailing list. If it is
> > > > > impossible to get mailman working on my system could someone please
> > >recomend
> > > > > another mailing list system that would run on freeBSD. I have hunted
>and
> > > > > hunted for one but I can't find one where users can reply to emails
>like
> > > > > this!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > John Wards
> > > > > SportNetwork.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I cannot seem to be able to send messages to my lists or reply to
> > > > > subscribe
> > > > > > to lists. I have included all the logs that I can think of. If I
>have
> > > > > missed
> > > > > > any that would be helpful please say.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have checked my qmail logs and everything seems fine:
> > > > > > @400000003d80510d0c7a2914 new msg 898
> > > > > > @400000003d80510d0c88d2fc info msg 898: bytes 1028 from
> > > > > > <j.wards at sportnetwork.net> qp 73230 uid 1005
> > > > > > @400000003d80510d0d208304 starting delivery 6510: msg 898 to local
> > > > > > mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
> > > > > > @400000003d80510d0ec9936c status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
> > > > > > @400000003d80510e092316a4 delivery 6510: success: did_0+0+1/
> > > > > > @400000003d80510e092b5bd4 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
> > > > > > @400000003d80510e092f4ba4 end msg 898
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I look in my /home/mailman/qfiles/ dir and i see the file:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.msg AND
> > > > > > 8b41040d30571a9389822ef8c26bbd728d5bb11c.db
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which contain:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From j.wards at sportnetwork.net Thu Sep 12 08:32:03 2002
> > > > > > Return-Path: <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
> > > > > > Delivered-To: mailman-test at lists.sportnetwork.net
> > > > > > Received: (qmail 73230 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002
> > >08:32:03 -0000
> > > > > > Received: from smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net (212.69.192.4)
> > > > > >   by ns1.sportnetwork.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 08:32:03 -0000
> > > > > > Received: from [212.69.194.109] (helo=durham.serve.co.uk)
> > > > > >  by smtp-relay01.tc.dsvr.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3)
> > > > > >  id 17pPLd-00055v-00
> > > > > >  for test at lists.sportnetwork.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:13 +0100
> > > > > > Received: from JOHNCOMP (dagroup.demon.co.uk [194.222.172.210])
> > > > > >  by durham.serve.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g8C8T8512838
> > > > > >  for <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:29:10
>+0100
> > > > > > Message-ID: <00a701c25a37$0190e790$3100a8c0 at JOHNCOMP>
> > > > > > From: "John Wards" <j.wards at sportnetwork.net>
> > > > > > To: <test at lists.sportnetwork.net>
> > > > > > Subject: test
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:32:54 +0100
> > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > > > >  charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > > > X-Priority: 3
> > > > > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > > > > > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000
> > > > > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > test
> > > > > > -------------------------------//E-oF
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > >
> > > > > > {s
> > > > > > -----------------------------//E-of
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do crontab -l as mailman user (I double checked by typing
>whoami) I
> > >get
> > > > > > this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # At 5PM every day, mail reminders to admins as to pending
>requests
> > > > > > 0 17 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/checkdbs
> > > > > > #
> > > > > > # Noon, mail digests for lists that do periodic as well as
>threshhold
> > > > > > delivery.
> > > > > > 0 12 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/senddigests
> > > > > > #
> > > > > > # 5 AM on the first of each month, mail out password reminders.
> > > > > > 0 5 1 * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/mailpasswds
> > > > > > #
> > > > > > # Every 5 mins, try to gate news to mail.  You can comment this
>one
> > >out
> > > > > > # if you don't want to allow gating, or don't have any going on
>right
> > >now,
> > > > > > # or want to exclusively use a callback strategy instead of
>polling.
> > > > > > 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
> > > > > > /home/mailman/cron/gate_news
> > > > > > #
> > > > > > # At 3:27am every night, regenerate the gzip'd archive file.  Only
> > > > > > # turn this on if the internal archiver is used and
> > > > > > # GZIP_ARCHIVE_TXT_FILES is false in mm_cfg.py
> > > > > > 27 3 * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S
>/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
> > > > > > #
> > > > > > # Retry failed deliveries once per minute.
> > > > > > * * * * * /usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I look in the cron logs:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73800]: (root) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/restart_all.sh > /dev/null)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73801]: (root) CMD
> > >(/usr/libexec/atrun)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73802]: (root) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
> > > > > > /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73803]: (nobody) CMD
> > > > > > (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73804]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73805]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:45:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73806]: (root) CMD (
> > > > > > /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:46:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73920]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:47:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73950]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:48:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[73988]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:49:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74045]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74106]: (root) CMD (
> > > > > > /usr/local/controlpanel/cronjobs/mail_log.pl > /dev/null)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74107]: (root) CMD
> > >(/usr/libexec/atrun)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74108]: (root) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/mrtg --logging /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.log
> > > > > > /usr/local/mrtg/mrtg.cfg)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74109]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74110]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/gate_news)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:50:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74111]: (nobody) CMD
> > > > > > (/home/oasis/public_html/mgmt/minutely_maint.php)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:51:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74172]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:52:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74205]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:53:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74235]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > > Sep 12 09:54:00 www /usr/sbin/cron[74280]: (mailman) CMD
> > > > > > (/usr/local/bin/python -S /home/mailman/cron/qrunner)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > oh and ~mailman/.qmail-default is set up like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > |preline /usr/local/bin/python /home/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Think thats it.........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am most confuzed.....everything seems to be fine but I am not
> > >getting
> > > > > any
> > > > > > messages.........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HELP!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh I have read through every readme supplyied and set up my system
>as
> > > > > > suggested. I have also searched through the archives with the key
> > >words
> > > > > > qmail and bsd.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > John Wards
> > > > > > SportNetwork.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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