[Mailman-Users] mailman

Tom Whiting wolf at wolfstream.net
Thu Aug 8 23:03:11 CEST 2002


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There was NOTHING wrong with the reply whatsoever. Telling someone to RTFM is 
a rather generous reply, given the question itself. In fact it is a rather 
NICE reply, compared to some I've seen.

Threatening to leave the list? What on earth for? Because someone wrote a 
reply you didn't like or understand? I simply told him to read the %$W#^ 
manual. Hell, I GAVE 'im the support and whatnot he needed to solve the 
problem, as WELL as telling him to read the manual, which is MORE than I've 
seen most do.

Instead of threatening to leave the list because you got yourself offended, 
and starting a flame war that could go on and on and on forever, why not just 
leave. Or better yet, STAY and help out. Either way, one user, to a list of 
(probably) hundreds makes little difference, unless that user is an active 
poster.

Do I make stupid statements, ask stupid questions? I've been using 
linux/various mta's for going on 7 years (not meant as a bragging statement, 
it just is a fact). In that time, I've found that rather than actually do the 
work to help themselves (utilizing search engines, reading manuals, etc), 
individuals would rather post problems such as the one that was posted, then 
run to a community supported list, crying, because they failed to read the 
manual, or do a little legwork and find out the solution to their problem.

When I encounter a problem that has NOT been publicly solved, or can not be 
solved through searching the vast library of the internet, THEN I post 
something, requesting help. It's REALLY not that hard to do the same thing.

In short, most (if not all) problems can be solved by searching various search 
engines, FAQ's, utilizing the RTFM principle. Failing to do so simply wastes 
more of the community's time.
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On Thursday 08 August 2002 03:18 pm, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> OK, If that is a acceptable reply to anyone on the list than I may consider
> leaving.  Isn't everyone here an adult?
>
> Please people, think before you post.
>
> -Jim P.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> > [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Support Desk
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:01 PM
> > To: stringy at mb.sympatico.ca
> > Cc: mailman-users at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman
> >
> >
> >
> > Ha! You self-righteous hippo-crit! http://PaulsFunHouse.com/ initiates a
> > pop-up for "adult" lists "Pure-Humor".. And carries links for
> > "adult humor"?
> > Give us a break! Yeah, maybe Tom's reply was little tough, maybe Tom
> > was having a bad day, but sounds like the pot calling the kettle
> > black, pal.
> >
> > You really think anyone here will miss you? You think you are depriving
> > us of anything by leaving? Certainly no monetary loss, since Mailman
> > is open source.
> >
> > BTW: list is not moderated, it's one of those values in the USA called
> > freedom of speech! Don't let the CD-ROM door hit your behind on your
> > way out.
> >
> > SD
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Croft" <paul at paulsfunhouse.com>
> > To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman
> >
> > | Maybe that is the case Tom...but I think your reply was a little bit
> > | harsh....have you NEVER asked a "stupid" question in your life?
> >
> >  Maybe NOT
> >
> > | everyone is as intelligent as you are!
> > |
> > | To the moderators...if this is an acceptable reply to a question on
> > | this list...then I will now be taking my leave of this list and finding
> > | an alternative!
> > |
> > | Paul
> > |
> > | At 11:19 PM 07/08/02, Tom Whiting wrote:
> > | >This is a case of RTFM (Read the &*^##%^ manual).
> > | >This is all covered there.
> > | >Make sure that sendmail (or your MTA) is pointing to yourhost.com and
> >
> > will
> >
> > | >accept mail for yourhost.com however
> > | >
> > | >On Wednesday 07 August 2002 11:09 pm, Aris Santillan wrote:
> > | > > hello guys
> > | > >
> > | > > why is it my mailman is binded to
> > | > > localhost.localdomain ?
> > | > > how can i change it to my real
> > | > > domain?
> >
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