[Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending out mail

Michelle Brownsworth michelle at primelogic.com
Thu Dec 27 00:29:06 CET 2001


>  One thing I've had to do before is to  ps jax |grep qrunner, kill any
>running qrunner processes, and then cd to the locks dir, and delete any
>remaing locks, so a clean instance of qrunner can start next time the cron
>is processed. Probably not the best thing to do, but I have had to do it
>before.
>
>    -Richard Idalski


Okay, I tried that but it didn't seem to help, so I rebooted the 
system.  Still no joy.  From the qrunner log:

Dec 26 15:11:02 2001 (855) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:12:02 2001 (879) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:13:02 2001 (886) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:14:02 2001 (896) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:14:24 2001 (898) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:15:03 2001 (914) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:16:01 2001 (929) Could not acquire qrunner lock
Dec 26 15:17:02 2001 (933) Could not acquire qrunner lock

And new locks have been created:

/usr/local/mailman/logs# ls -al ../locks/
total 4
drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman  512 Dec 26 15:28 .
drwxrwsr-x  18 mailman  mailman  512 Oct 31 14:55 ..
-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 27 00:57 qrunner.lock
-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 27 00:57 
qrunner.lock.straylight.primelogic.com.71237

The strange thing is, Mailman's three lists were working perfectly 
until the 24th.  I ran check_perms to see if permissions had gotten 
changed somehow, but they're okay.  But there's something I'm not 
comprehending here.  A working system shouldn't just suddenly stop 
working.

.\\ichelle


>-----Original Message-----
>From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
>[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Michelle Brownsworth
>Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:31 PM
>To: mailman-users at python.org
>Cc: Richard Idalski
>Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending out mail
>
>
>>Is anything showing up in mailman's error log? $prefix/mailman/logs/error.
>>There could be something there to shed some light on this.  As far as,
>>getting rid of the extra postings, if they're still floating around the
>>qfiles dir, just delete the corrosponding .msg, and .db files for the extra
>>posting... be sure to leave at least one set however so it does go out.
>>
>>
>>      -Richard Idalski
>
>
>Nope, not a thing in the error log; that was the first place I
>looked.  Thanks for the tip about the qfiles dir, though.
>
>.\\ichelle
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
>>[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Michelle Brownsworth
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:02 PM
>>To: mailman-users at python.org
>>Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman not sending out mail
>>
>>
>>Gentle friends,
>>
>>I'm having a problem with Mailman 2.06, running on FreeBSD
>>4.4-RELEASE.  It has been working perfectly up until now, serving
>>three lists.  All of a sudden it won't send out mail posted to a
>>list, although the wrapper receives it.  Here's the most recent post
>>made by the moderator of the largest (1500) list:
>>
>>Dec 25 20:41:05 straylight sendmail[48896]: fBQ4f4U48896:
>>from=<FISH1IFR at aol.com
>>>, size=66192, class=0, nrcpts=1,
>>>msgid=<f3.13c33a14.295aad85 at aol.com>, proto=ES
>>MTP, daemon=MTA, relay=imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]
>>Dec 25 20:41:06 straylight sendmail[48897]: fBQ4f4U48896:
>>to="|/usr/local/mailma
>>n/mail/wrapper post fishlink",
>>ctladdr=<fishlink at straylight.primelogic.com> (1/0
>>), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=prog, pri=95692,
>>dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
>>
>>The cron jobs seem to be running every minute:
>>
>>68546  ??  I      0:00.00 cron: running job (cron)
>>68550  ??  Is     0:00.01 /bin/sh -c /usr/local/bin/python -S
>>/usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner
>>68554  ??  I      0:00.67 /usr/local/bin/python -S
>>/usr/local/mailman/cron/qrunner
>>
>>But I'm getting this message in /usr/local/mailman/logs:
>>
>>Dec 25 20:48:01 2001 (48945) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>Dec 25 20:49:02 2001 (48948) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>  >Dec 25 20:50:02 2001 (48956) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>Dec 25 20:51:02 2001 (48960) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>Dec 25 20:52:01 2001 (48968) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>Dec 25 20:54:02 2001 (48977) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>Dec 25 20:55:03 2001 (48986) Could not acquire qrunner lock
>>
>>Lock files are being created:
>>
>>/usr/local/mailman/locks# ls -al
>>total 4
>>drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman  512 Dec 26 12:07 .
>>drwxrwsr-x  18 mailman  mailman  512 Oct 31 14:55 ..
>>-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 26 21:52 qrunner.lock
>>-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 26 21:52
>>qrunner.lock.straylight.primelogic.com.68866
>>/usr/local/mailman/locks# ls -al
>>total 4
>>drwxrwsr-x   2 mailman  mailman  512 Dec 26 12:46 .
>>drwxrwsr-x  18 mailman  mailman  512 Oct 31 14:55 ..
>>-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 26 22:28 qrunner.lock
>>-rw-rw-r--   2 mailman  mailman   69 Dec 26 22:28
>>qrunner.lock.straylight.primelogic.com.69414
>>
>>Oddly, the times on the lockfiles are off, set in the future.  Here's
>>the current time:
>>
>>/usr/local/mailman/locks# date
>>Wed Dec 26 12:47:11 PST 2001
>>
>>I removed the locks as a test but they were recreated with different
>>numeric extensions.
>>
>>/usr/local/mailman/logs/post has no entries corresponding to the post
>above.
>>
>>Also, if the problem is solved the list owner will not want all three
>>of his attempts to post to be delivered.  Is there a means to delete
>>the last two attempts so his subscribers won't be spammed with the
>>same newsletter?
>>
>>Hope someone can shed some light, because I'm at a loss here.
>>
>>.\\ichelle
>>---------------------
>>Michelle Brownsworth
>>System Administrator
>>PrimeLogic Corporation
>>http://www.primelogic.com
>>
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