[Mailman-Users] admin and lockfile problems

[Philippe Rodriguez]

Hi David,

First, you should reply to all, including the mailman list, because I do
 not have the answer.

I explained in a previous mail what I'd do : I'd write shell (/bin/sh)
 scripts to :
 - get the lists of list, and for each list get the subscribers (using
    $prefix/bin/* utils), from the old (but running) mailman installation,
 - create automatically with other scripts the lists and automatically
    include the subscribers, in the newly installed mailman.

Of course you will have to write these scripts.

Does someone have a more appropriate answer to David's request ? (below)


Phil.

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, David Ball wrote:

> 	So, if I were to do a fresh 2.0.3 install, and just copy my
> /lists/ directory (or at least the contents of it) to the appropriate
> spot, that should about do it, right ?  Or am I missing some other files
> that would have to be copied over ?
> 	I don't have many lists, so I could likely just recreate
> EVERYthing from scratch and re-subscribe everyone, but I'd sooner just
> import the data if possible......
> 	sound right ?  Am I missing some files ?
>
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Philippe Rodriguez wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I suggested this solution because :
> >  - they had the same problem with mailman after upgrading (and not
> >      reinstalling with a newer version)
> >  - personnally, I don't really like upgrades, and I ususally prefer to
> >      reinstall from scratch. Some experiences (and this one ?) show that
> >      upgrading a software is not always working fine.
> >
> > Well ...
> >
> > It's clear that "upgrading" should be easier, and should keep datas ...
> >  but the condition is that it works fine !!
> >
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Steve Pirk wrote:
> >
> > > When I upgraded from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 (I think those were the versions),
> > > the install found my lists and upgraded them (including the html
> > > associated with the templates).
> > >
> > > Kinda painless...
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > --
> > > Steve Pirk
> > > orion at deathcon.com . deathcon.com . pirk.com . webops.com . t2servers.com
> > >
> > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, josh koenig wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah... I could see how this would work. A sort of failsafe
> > > > backup/migration system. I think I can puzzle out how to get all the data
> > > > out manually, but any such script you write would be more than welcome by
> > > > me. I'm not experienced with python.
> > > >
> > > > > I have no scripts (yet) do to that, but my idea is :
> > > > >
> > > > >  - first step, on your old (and running) mailman installation :
> > > > >     With some command in $prefix/bin, you can get the list of lists, and
> > > > >      then you for each list you can get the list of subscribers (and their
> > > > >      options ?)
> > > > >  - second step, with the newly installed mailman :
> > > > >     With some other commands in $prefix/bin, you can create the lists and
> > > > >      subsscribe your list of subscribers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry not to indicate which commands to use in $prefix/bin, but you'll
> > > > >  find which one to use by using the option --help for each, to determine
> > > > >  what you can do with them. That's what I did.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tested the second step, to test the feasability of a migration
> > > > >  from majordomo, but I have to clean up these scripts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you want me to send these scripts when they'll be ready ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Josh Koenig (joshk at grawk.net)
> > > > Developer - Smarter than pudding
> > > > http://www.grawk.net/~joshk/
> > > >
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