[Mailman-Users] Re: [demime-l] Demime is what's killing my archives!!!

[Nick Simicich]

At 11:15 PM 11/10/2000 -0500, Bob Puff at NLE wrote:
>
>Ok, after a lot of messing around this evening, I found the source of the
problem of why my mailman archives stopped working.  The problems started
exactly when I added DEMIME!  
>
>First, here's my ALIAS file line that calls demime (version 0.97c):
>
>testlist: "|/home/mailman/mail/demime.pl - |/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
post testlist"

Try the following:

testlist: "|/home/mailman/mail/demime.pl testlist-post"
testlist-post: "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post testlist"

Some mailers, like postfix, will allow you to protect aliases from being
sent to off machine.  If you have that capability, you can protect
testlist-post from being sent to.

Yes, I remove the from line.  In fact, I always reformat the headers.
Passing the mesage back through the MTA will put the from line back.

>Now here's what I discovered, after analyzing the headers of the messages
that worked, and the ones that didn't.
>
>The very first line of the header normally starts with "From "... This
first line seems to be getting swallowed by demime, even if the message has
no HTML / MIME, or anything that needs attention.
>
>Here are two messages: the first one is WITHOUT demime, and the second is
WITH demime installed on my "testlist":
>
>>From bob at nleaudio.com  Fri Nov 10 22:58:44 2000
>Delivered-To: testlist at nlenet.net
>Received: from ns.nlenet.net (ns.nlenet.net [64.65.206.24])
>        by main.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E08E3BC1
>        for <testlist at nleaudio.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:58:44 -0500 (EST)
>Received: from nleaudio.com (nle.m0.nlenet.net [192.168.2.9])
>        by ns.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B297E76FE
>        for <testlist at nleaudio.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:58:43 -0500 (EST)
>Message-ID: <3A0CC48D.B305618B at nleaudio.com>
>Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:01:17 -0500
>From: "Bob Puff at NLE" <bob at nleaudio.com>
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: testlist at nleaudio.com
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Subject: [Testlist] test
>Sender: testlist-admin at nleaudio.com
>Errors-To: testlist-admin at nleaudio.com
>X-BeenThere: testlist at nleaudio.com
>X-Mailman-Version: 2.0rc1
>Precedence: bulk
>Reply-To: testlist at nleaudio.com 
>List-Post: <mailto:testlist at nleaudio.com>
>List-Subscribe: <http://nleaudio.com/mailman/listinfo/testlist>,
>        <mailto:testlist-request at nleaudio.com?subject=subscribe>
>List-Id: <testlist.nleaudio.com>
>List-Unsubscribe: <http://nleaudio.com/mailman/listinfo/testlist>,
>        <mailto:testlist-request at nleaudio.com?subject=unsubscribe>
>List-Archive: <http://nleaudio.com/pipermail/testlist/>
>
>test without demime
>
>
>Return-Path: <bob at nleaudio.com>
>Delivered-To: testlist at nlenet.net
>Received: from ns.nlenet.net (ns.nlenet.net [64.65.206.24]) by
>  main.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857A3BC1 for
>  <testlist at nleaudio.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:00:49 -0500 (EST)
>Received: from nleaudio.com (nle.m0.nlenet.net [192.168.2.9]) by
>  ns.nlenet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7526E76FE for
>  <testlist at nleaudio.com>; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:00:49 -0500 (EST)
>Message-ID: <3A0CC50B.95E0A94E at nleaudio.com>
>Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:03:23 -0500
>From: "Bob Puff at NLE" <bob at nleaudio.com>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: testlist at nleaudio.com
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Subject: [Testlist] test 2
>Sender: testlist-admin at nleaudio.com
>Errors-To: testlist-admin at nleaudio.com
>X-BeenThere: testlist at nleaudio.com
>X-Mailman-Version: 2.0rc1
>Precedence: bulk
>Reply-To: testlist at nleaudio.com
>List-Help: <mailto:testlist-request at nleaudio.com?subject=help>
>List-Post: <mailto:testlist at nleaudio.com>
>List-Subscribe: <http://nleaudio.com/mailman/listinfo/testlist>,
>        <mailto:testlist-request at nleaudio.com?subject=subscribe>
>List-Id: <testlist.nleaudio.com>
>List-Unsubscribe: <http://nleaudio.com/mailman/listinfo/testlist>,
>        <mailto:testlist-request at nleaudio.com?subject=unsubscribe>
>List-Archive: <http://nleaudio.com/pipermail/testlist/>
>
>test 2 with demime
>           
>===============================================
>
>Note that I also tried a blank demime_junkmail.cf file - no difference.
>As you can see from these messages, Msg #2 has one line missing at the top
compared to message #1.  And apparently, Mailman's html archiver looks for
that, and needs it to work properly.
>
>Help!
>
>Bob
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