[Mailman-Users] Re: Feature Request -- Again

[Chuq Von Rospach]

At 6:35 PM -0500 6/2/2000, David Champion wrote:

>Once again: this is fine if your list admins all have command-line
>access to the server and know python, but the list software's demanding
>those prerequisites is absurd.

Two comments:

first, a basic reality is that priorities are going to have to be 
set. If we (and Barry) waqit to release 2.0 until everything 
wanted/needed by everyone is done, it'll never ship. So there are 
going to have to be decisions on "must have" vs "should have" vs 
"nice to have".

second, While I agree that requiring CLI access to be a list admin 
isn't a good idea, in reality, the functions being talked about are 
fairly uncommon in their use, and so to me, this falls into a "should 
have" category, leaning towards "nice to have". Because the work CAN 
get done, just not as conveniently, and if a list admin doesn't have 
cli access, then the mailman (and/or site) admin can do it for them. 
And as someone who supports a large site of mail lists, yes, I DO 
know exactly what I'm suggesting here. As site admin, there are times 
when you're simply going to have to step in and help out your list 
admins -- that's why you're site admin.

Maximally convenient? no. But it works. And it's practical. Of 
course, if you can't wait for it, there's another option: start 
coding. I'm sure Barry will take submissions of needed 
functionality....

>Paul (and others) -- BOFH tactics are fun, but hardly productive, and
>certainly not worth the saved time.  I congratulate you on not working
>in an environment where this is obvious.

Jumping on people for disagreeing with them isn't productive, either. 
And neither is belittling someone's opinion just because you disagree 
with them.

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Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui at plaidworks.com)
Apple Mail List Gnome (mailto:chuq at apple.com)

And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
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