Hi!
Some people here use the KFM as Web Browser (that is the file
manager belonging to the Linux K Desktop Environmenti aka KDE).
Although this works fine most of the time, the HTML generated by
Mailman looks ugly, if it comes to passages of quoted text: They all
end up as one continuous line causing a very long horizontal scrollbar
to appear.
Although this might be a bug in the HTML widget of KFM, for the time
being I've applied the following (dirty) patch to mailman:
--- freeware/mailman-1.1/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py Sat Aug 21 07:13:23 1999
+++ /home/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py Tue Jan 4 09:24:54 2000
@@ -944,7 +944,7 @@
else:
quoted = quoted.end(0)
prefix=CGIescape(L[:quoted]) + ''
- suffix=''
+ suffix=''
if self.SHOWHTML:
suffix=suffix+'
'
if not last_line_was_quoted:
I've have noticed no negative side effects when viewing these pages using
other browsers like netscape.
Regards, Peter
--
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From jylam at hangover.fr Thu Jan 6 11:01:41 2000
From: jylam at hangover.fr (Jean-Yves)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:01:41 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Making an user unable to post
Message-ID: <38746805.F2840B6F@hangover.fr>
Hi, I'm looking for a the thing which can disable de post function for user. Is there a simple button to say :'this user can't post to the list', and mail him a small text ?
Thx
--
Jean-Yves LAMOUREUX
Administrateur systeme / developpeur
Hangover SARL ( http://www.hangover.fr )
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From jtsang at crystal.com.cn Thu Jan 6 13:10:13 2000
From: jtsang at crystal.com.cn (James Tsang)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:10:13 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How can I set an account to install mailman?
Message-ID:
Dear all,
??? sorry for I'm newer in this field. How can I set my account to
install mailman (or other application).
Rgds
?
From amenmok at allof.econ.cuhk.edu.hk Thu Jan 6 15:50:35 2000
From: amenmok at allof.econ.cuhk.edu.hk (amenmok at allof.econ.cuhk.edu.hk)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:50:35 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)
Message-ID:
unscribe kfwong
From C.Fox at gold.ac.uk Thu Jan 6 16:32:58 2000
From: C.Fox at gold.ac.uk (Chris Fox)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:32:58 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Posting-Filter is broken in 1.1 !?
In-Reply-To: claw's message of Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:08:17 PST.
Message-ID: <200001061532.PAA02605@wivenhoe.demon.co.uk>
On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:08:17 PST, J C Lawrence wrote:
>On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:30:03 +0100
>Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
>
>> I have reported these bugs several *months* ago and still got no
>> feedback about them :-( Is anyone ever fixing bugs ?
>
>> Ok, here they are again:
>
>> 1. Some posts are held no matter if the poster is subscribed or in
>> the posters list (this is a different bug than #2 !!).
>
>I suspect that you still have MailMan configured to authenticate by
>envelope address and that that address is not in your membership
>list or authorised_poster list.
>
>> 2. Some posts are held because Mailman uses the "Sender:" header
>> item added by Netscape (Mailman should ignore it).
>
>MailMan pays no attention to the Sender: header. It does by default
>read the message envelope and does ignore the From: header however,
>
>> 3. When I have a list with the policy "Only subscribed posters can
>> post" set to "Yes" and I set this option to "No", then all posts
>> must be approved manually ! No one can post anymore :-(
>
>Set "Must posts be approved by an administrator?" to "No" in Privacy
>Options.
I also experience the reported problem, and requested help on this
list--subject: How to make Mailman more trusting of subscriber
supplied addresses--with no response (at least, none that reached
me). This is with USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0, and it even when faking
the envelope from by piping through formail. At times, Mailman seems
to behave as if it uses the return-path: header.
Am I correct in assuming that the existence of this bug is either
being denied or ignored? Although in our application we _may_ be
able to find some workaround using an Exim recipe, we might have to
reconsider if Mailman is going to be appropriate for our needs if
such problems are not to be addressed.
If it really is'nt a bug in Mailman itself, I wonder whether the
problem arises due to some combination of mailman, MUA and MTA. What
evidence would be required to track it down (and convince people that
it exists) and to fix it?
Chris
--
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College, New Cross, London SE14 6NW, UK. Email: C.Fox at gold.ac.uk
http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/chris/ Tel/Fax: +44(0)20 7919 7856/7853
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From secabeen at pobox.com Thu Jan 6 17:55:53 2000
From: secabeen at pobox.com (Ted Cabeen)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:55:53 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Posting-Filter is broken in 1.1 !?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:32:58 GMT."
<200001061532.PAA02605@wivenhoe.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200001061655.KAA07446@entropy.uchicago.edu>
In message <200001061532.PAA02605 at wivenhoe.demon.co.uk>, Chris Fox writes:
>On Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:08:17 PST, J C Lawrence wrote:
>>On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:30:03 +0100
>>Aaron Optimizer Digulla wrote:
>>> 2. Some posts are held because Mailman uses the "Sender:" header
>>> item added by Netscape (Mailman should ignore it).
>>
>>MailMan pays no attention to the Sender: header. It does by default
>>read the message envelope and does ignore the From: header however,
>
>I also experience the reported problem, and requested help on this
>list--subject: How to make Mailman more trusting of subscriber
>supplied addresses--with no response (at least, none that reached
>me). This is with USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0, and it even when faking
>the envelope from by piping through formail. At times, Mailman seems
>to behave as if it uses the return-path: header.
Since Barry doesn't seem to be around to respond to this, I'm going to
attempt an answer. The relevant code that you're looking for is in
Message.py at line 110 where Mailman checks the sender then the from:
def GetSender(self):
# Look for a Sender field.
sender = self.getheader('sender')
if sender:
realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('sender')
else:
try:
realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('from')
except:
real_name = mail_address = None
Switching the sender and the from will check the From address first, then the
sender. Here's a patch to do so. To use it, patch the two files and set
USE_FROM_FIRST to 1 in your mm_cfg.py
*** Message.py Sun Nov 7 10:48:54 1999
--- Message.py.new Thu Jan 6 10:42:50 2000
***************
*** 104,118 ****
return self.file_data[self.file_count-1] + '\n'
def GetSender(self):
! # Look for a Sender field.
! sender = self.getheader('sender')
! if sender:
! realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('sender')
! else:
try:
! realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('from')
! except:
real_name = mail_address = None
# We can't trust that any of the headers really contained an address
if mail_address and type(mail_address) == type(""):
--- 104,127 ----
return self.file_data[self.file_count-1] + '\n'
def GetSender(self):
! if mm_cfg.USE_FROM_FIRST:
try:
! realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('from')
! except:
real_name = mail_address = None
+ sender = self.getheader('sender')
+ if sender:
+ realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('sender')
+ else:
+ # Look for a Sender field.
+ sender = self.getheader('sender')
+ if sender:
+ realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('sender')
+ else:
+ try:
+ realname, mail_address = self.getaddr('from')
+ except:
+ real_name = mail_address = None
# We can't trust that any of the headers really contained an address
if mail_address and type(mail_address) == type(""):
*** Defaults.py Sun Nov 7 10:48:51 1999
--- Defaults.py.new Thu Jan 6 10:45:11 2000
***************
*** 120,125 ****
--- 120,128 ----
# spoofed messages may get through.
USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0
+ # When true, mailman will check the from field before it checks the sender
+ # field, as sender is not set correctly by a number of MUAs
+ USE_FROM_FIRST = 0
# When true, mailman will consider user at host.domain to be the same address
# as user at domain. If set to 0, mailman will consider user at host.domain to
# be the same address as user at Host.DoMain, but different than user at domain.
--
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Check Website or finger for PGP Public Key secabeen at midway.uchicago.edu
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"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."-T.S.Eliot 73126.626 at compuserve.com
From jeffw at fatman.pro-libertate.com Thu Jan 6 20:46:53 2000
From: jeffw at fatman.pro-libertate.com (jeffw)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:46:53 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Majordomo to Mailman Archive
Message-ID: <3874F12D.FB21829D@fatman.pro-libertate.com>
Hi All,
I have an old majordomo mailing list with archives that I would like to import
to mailman, the bad news is the archive was passwd through hypermail
and now I only have html articles.
Any way to get them into mailman without the majordomo flat file archive?
--
-jeffw
From pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa Thu Jan 6 16:15:02 2000
From: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa (Patricio Escobar)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:15:02 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (fwd)
Message-ID:
Warm greetings from Panama
Install mailman with postfix as server of post office and creates the
ready test, but when sent mail to the list return follow
message:
-----------------------------------------------------
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:43:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Mail Delivery System
To: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
This is the Postfix program at host mac.utp.ac.pa.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
For further assistance, please contact
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.
The Postfix program
: Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
post test"
-----------------------------------------------------
Thanks for the aid beforehand
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Patricio Escobar P.
"La felicidad no es hacer lo que se quiere, sino querer lo
que se hace y amar lo que se alcanza"
Jose Marti
=================================================================
Red Academica y de Investigacion Nacional - PANNet
Unidad de Investigacion y Desarrollo - UID
patricio_escobar at hotmail.com patricio_escobar at usa.net
patricio at pannet.pa
=================================================================
L.S.P.M.
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From pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa Thu Jan 6 16:16:28 2000
From: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa (Patricio Escobar)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:16:28 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem with Mailman
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
> Warm greetings from Panama
> Install mailman with postfix as server of post office and creates the
> ready test, but when sent mail to the list return follow
> message:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:43:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: Mail Delivery System
> To: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
>
> This is the Postfix program at host mac.utp.ac.pa.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
> For further assistance, please contact
>
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
>
> The Postfix program
>
> : Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
> post test"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for the aid beforehand
>
>
>
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> Patricio Escobar P.
>
> "La felicidad no es hacer lo que se quiere, sino querer lo
> que se hace y amar lo que se alcanza"
> Jose Marti
> =================================================================
> Red Academica y de Investigacion Nacional - PANNet
> Unidad de Investigacion y Desarrollo - UID
>
> patricio_escobar at hotmail.com patricio_escobar at usa.net
> patricio at pannet.pa
> =================================================================
> L.S.P.M.
>
>
>
>
From ptomblin at xcski.com Thu Jan 6 21:03:55 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:03:55 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (fwd)
In-Reply-To: ; from Patricio Escobar on Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 03:15:02PM +0000
References:
Message-ID: <20000106150355.A21287@xcski.com>
Quoting Patricio Escobar (pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa):
Content-Description: Notification
> : Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
> post test"
If you're using a fairly recent version of sendmail:
cd /etc/smrsh
ln -s /home/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper
Then try your test post again.
--
Paul Tomblin, not speaking for anybody.
SETI at Home: Finally a *good* way to impress Jodie Foster
http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
From roger at slevin.u-net.com Thu Jan 6 22:23:40 2000
From: roger at slevin.u-net.com (Roger Slevin)
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Two administrators : error message bomb
Message-ID: <3.0.32.20000106212330.00a36e20@mail.u-net.com>
Over the recent holiday period one of two administrators mail systems was
down, and a list (running on Mailman 1.0) triggered a message to the
administrators.
The result was a mail bomb of
"Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender"
messages to the one administrator whose e-mail system was working, caused
by the bounced messages from the other administrator being re-sent to both
administrators by Mailman.
Is this a known bug? Is there a patch? Is it fixed in version 1.1?
Any help greatly appreciated - we've gone down to having only a single
administrator on each list for the time being to prevent this problem
repeating.
Roger Slevin
From igorl at life.uiuc.edu Thu Jan 6 22:28:25 2000
From: igorl at life.uiuc.edu (Igor S. Livshits)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:28:25 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confused about desired gzip behavior
Message-ID:
Hello,
What should be the desired or appropriate gzip behavior versus
archives? I see that the 1.1 defaults indicate not to compress the
archive on the fly but rather to use the nightly cron job.
It does not appear that the cron job is designed to remove or
truncate the source text file, but it does appear that the archive
web page display will preferentially list the compressed archive over
the plain text one?
I am not quite sure what this is designed to accomplish as:
1. Modern web servers tend to decompress on the fly when they serve
compressed text files
2. Disk space is not conserved as both files are kept
3. Compressed archives lag real archives
What am I missing here?
Thanks, igor
From andreas at mtg.co.at Thu Jan 6 22:36:59 2000
From: andreas at mtg.co.at (Andreas Kostyrka)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:36:59 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confused about desired gzip behavior
In-Reply-To: ; from igorl@life.uiuc.edu on Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 03:28:25PM -0600
References:
Message-ID: <20000106223659.O14218@mtg.co.at>
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 03:28:25PM -0600, Igor S. Livshits wrote:
> 1. Modern web servers tend to decompress on the fly when they serve
> compressed text files
Well, modern web servers most surely do not this. Certain web browsers
are known to decompress files on the fly :)
Andreas
--
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phone: +43/1/7070750 | phone: +43/676/4091256
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http://www.euro.cauce.org/ | http://www.cauce.org/
From igorl at life.uiuc.edu Thu Jan 6 22:48:56 2000
From: igorl at life.uiuc.edu (Igor S. Livshits)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:48:56 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confused about desired gzip behavior
In-Reply-To: <20000106223659.O14218@mtg.co.at>
References:
<20000106223659.O14218@mtg.co.at>
Message-ID:
At 10:36 PM +0100 on 1/6/00, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
>On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 03:28:25PM -0600, Igor S. Livshits wrote:
> > 1. Modern web servers tend to decompress on the fly when they serve
> > compressed text files
>Well, modern web servers most surely do not this. Certain web browsers
>are known to decompress files on the fly :)
I know that Apache does this, although one may turn this feature off.
Igor
From pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa Thu Jan 6 18:52:52 2000
From: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa (Patricio Escobar)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:52:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender (fwd)
Message-ID:
Hello
I use postfix with Mailman and receipt the following mail of return when
write to the list
------------------------------------------------------------
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:19:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Mail Delivery System
To: pescobar at listas.utp.ac.pa
Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
This is the Postfix program at host mac.utp.ac.pa.
I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
For further assistance, please contact
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the message returned below.
The Postfix program
: Command died with status 2: "/home/mailman/mail/wrapper
post test"
------------------------------------
Alsoin /var/log/maillog it appears the lines:
Mailman mail*-wrapper: Failure to exec script. WANTED gid 504, GOT 99
(Reconfigure to take 99?
(Command died with status 2: /home/posatfix/mail/wrapper post test
Thanks for his help...
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From andrew at violet.org Fri Jan 7 04:29:47 2000
From: andrew at violet.org (Andrew Perkins)
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:29:47 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Detection for: exim, postfix
Message-ID: <20000106192946.A18291@violet.org>
Hello everyone,
It appears that bounce detection for various MTA's (exim, postfix)
have not been implemented in mailman. For our sake, it is unfortunate
that the MTA authors failed to arrive upon some similar error message
format. I am *so* interested in bounce detection for exim (today) and
postfix (in a couple of months) that I am willing to contribute to the
mailman source tree. Although I do not currently write any python, I
have a solid grasp of perl. I am definitely willing to learn python
for this project.
I am posting to this list to *be sure* that I am not re-inventing any
wheels... Please respond to this message with *any* information you
may have regarding other projects (within mailman or otherwise) that
my have relevance to this. I understand that support for alternate
MTA (i.e. not sendmail) bounce detection may be underway for mailman
1.2; if this is the case please point me to the CVS repository...
Verbosity counts, please do not assume that I have thought of everything...
Cordially,
_____________________________________________
Andrew Perkins andrew at violet.org
From benjy at alum.mit.edu Fri Jan 7 09:19:18 2000
From: benjy at alum.mit.edu (Benjamin B. Thomas)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:19:18 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Pipermail Archive page
Message-ID: <200001070819.CAA21275@mail.indiansprings.org>
I have no idea if this has any bearing on the problem, but from your email, your
system seems to think that it is currently September (Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:35:59
-0600). This caught me by surprise when I visited the list archive page at
http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/.
-benjy
Christopher Conner writes:
> Our archive page gets updated about every half hour. When it updates
> the most recent post on the page gets replaced with the most recent
> post. So instead of the archive list for January getting longer each
> time it updates it stays the same length and the last link gets replaced
> with a more recent post. Has anyone ever seen this, or does anyone have
> an idea how I could get it to update the archive correctly?
From diablo at lt.com.ua Fri Jan 7 11:13:59 2000
From: diablo at lt.com.ua (Gelfandbein Boris)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:13:59 +0200
Subject: [Mailman-Users] list are live?
Message-ID: <17509.000107@lt.com.ua>
Hello mailman-users,
anybody read this list?
--
Best regards,
Gelfandbein Boris | BG12-RIPE | Kherson, LT | 263119
From th at nextel.no Fri Jan 7 12:36:15 2000
From: th at nextel.no (Tor Houghton)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:36:15 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confused about desired gzip behavior
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Igor S. Livshits wrote:
> Hello,
>
> [snip]
>
> What am I missing here?
>
i _think_ the idea is that a person can download the whole archive to
his/her machine.
perhaps i am mistaken.
tor.
From bwarsaw at cnri.reston.va.us Fri Jan 7 17:07:23 2000
From: bwarsaw at cnri.reston.va.us (Barry A. Warsaw)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:07:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Detection for: exim, postfix
References: <20000106192946.A18291@violet.org>
Message-ID: <14454.3899.944759.319200@anthem.cnri.reston.va.us>
>>>>> "AP" == Andrew Perkins writes:
AP> It appears that bounce detection for various MTA's (exim,
AP> postfix) have not been implemented in mailman. For our sake,
AP> it is unfortunate that the MTA authors failed to arrive upon
AP> some similar error message format. I am *so* interested in
AP> bounce detection for exim (today) and postfix (in a couple of
AP> months) that I am willing to contribute to the mailman source
AP> tree. Although I do not currently write any python, I have a
AP> solid grasp of perl. I am definitely willing to learn python
AP> for this project.
You will definitely want to look at the current CVS snapshot. I've
implemented Postfix, Qmail's QSBMF, DSN (a.k.a. RFC 1894) and several
other, er, "unique" bounce detectors. I've been able greatly reduce
the number of bounces coming to the admin.
There are still a few bizarre formats that I'm not yet catching, and
as the pain of dealing with them increases, I'll probably add simple
regexp catchers. I'll agree that it's sad that many MTA authors feel
they can't adopt one of the existing standards.
-Barry
From roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk Fri Jan 7 17:51:24 2000
From: roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk (roberto)
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:51:24 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] About mailman new list setup
Message-ID: <3876198B.4C65EBE0@mayidsgn.com.hk>
Dear all,
I have a difficulty when setup newlist.
After running new list. e.g. abc_list, then the email address of the
list would be abc_list at my_server.my_domain.com. but when I send email to
this account, I got a returned message of "Unknow User" Should I set up
a email account for abc_list separately? If I do that, how does mailman
know the location of the mailbox? I have try that but it seems that
mailman cannot handle the mailbox and send the message to the
subscribers.
Thanks for help!
Roberto
From rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu Fri Jan 7 18:13:49 2000
From: rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu (Rick Niess)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:13:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] About mailman new list setup
In-Reply-To: <3876198B.4C65EBE0@mayidsgn.com.hk>
Message-ID:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, roberto wrote:
> I have a difficulty when setup newlist.
> After running new list. e.g. abc_list, then the email address of the
> list would be abc_list at my_server.my_domain.com. but when I send email to
> this account, I got a returned message of "Unknow User" Should I set up
> a email account for abc_list separately? If I do that, how does mailman
No, but you do have to add the block of aliases that the newlist
script prints out to your /etc/aliases file. And then, if necessary, tell
your MTA to re-look at /etc/aliases ("newaliases" or "sendmail -b" works
if Sendmail is your MTA). I hope this helps...
~ Rick ~
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From chris.conner at navidec.com Sat Jan 8 01:08:11 2000
From: chris.conner at navidec.com (Christopher Conner)
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 17:08:11 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] listname.mbox
Message-ID: <38767FE9.69EAC4BA@navidec.com>
Is there a way to configure mailman so that instead of getting one large
listname.mbox full of the emails I can get seperate ones by month, like
january.mbox, february.mbox...?
Thanks for any help on this.
From cdysthe at oddbird.dyndns.org Sat Jan 8 15:34:39 2000
From: cdysthe at oddbird.dyndns.org (Christian Dysthe)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:34:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] config.db dissapears.
Message-ID:
Hi,
I run several lists using Mailman v 1.0rc2 on a Debian Slink server.
One of the list has 33,000 subscribers but is only used for a very few
postings controlled by me. Quite often after having posted to the
list the config.db file disappears and I have to copy config.db.last as
new config.db. Then everything works fine again until I post to the list
again and the same thing (mostly) happens.
What might be wrong here?
TIA
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From jtsang at crystal.com.cn Sat Jan 8 19:48:49 2000
From: jtsang at crystal.com.cn (James Tsang)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 02:48:49 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] the URL not found
Message-ID:
Dear member,
who can help me on URL not found other than common FAQ. I set up
like following:
set Alias and directory in httpd.conf
after I test with test maillist with my own email account,
but once I click the URL, it is reported me error 404.
then I come back to check httpd's error log,
it is said not the httpd/mail.....test ,
I check the file, can not found the public_..../test too.
no test.html, just one test.mbox.
is there any incorrect configuration I done?
Best Regards
James Tsang
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From roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk Sun Jan 9 04:13:40 2000
From: roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk (roberto)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 11:13:40 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to solve SMTP relaying denied problems
Message-ID: <3877FCE3.511D98A2@mayidsgn.com.hk>
Dear all,
I have set up mailman and added a list of aliases into /etc/aliases and
also run the command 'newaliases'.
Then I subscribed and post message to the mailing list. But I can't get
any returned mail. I telnet and view
the /home/mailman/logs. No message in 'error' file but found some
messages in 'smtp-failures' file.
The message is like:
... TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx at yyy.com
... TrySMTPDelivery: Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPRecipientsRefused /
{'xxx at yyy.com': (550, '... Relaying denied')} (dequeued)
What should I do?
Thanks for help.
Roberto
From aggarwal at dti.net Sun Jan 9 05:20:40 2000
From: aggarwal at dti.net (Samir Aggarwal)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:20:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
Message-ID:
hello all,
i am having some wrapper problems.
i was getting the error:
sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
this error:
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
(expanded from: test-admin)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
self.Load()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
self.Lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
self.__lock.lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
i see that it is a permission error, but where?
thanks,
Samir
From webmaster at planetphat.com Sun Jan 9 05:35:59 2000
From: webmaster at planetphat.com (Jamie Krasnoo)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:35:59 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto /etc/smrsh
and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
its not cool to do so.
Jamie Krasnoo
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
To: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
hello all,
i am having some wrapper problems.
i was getting the error:
sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
this error:
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
(expanded from: test-admin)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
self.Load()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
self.Lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
self.__lock.lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
i see that it is a permission error, but where?
thanks,
Samir
------------------------------------------------------
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
From aggarwal at dti.net Sun Jan 9 05:45:53 2000
From: aggarwal at dti.net (Samir Aggarwal)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:45:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
That is exactly what i did. and the second set of errors that i posted was
the result.
any other suggestions?
thanks,
Samir
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto /etc/smrsh
> and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
> without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
> its not cool to do so.
>
> Jamie Krasnoo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
>
>
>
> hello all,
>
> i am having some wrapper problems.
>
> i was getting the error:
> sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
>
> i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
> this error:
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
> (expanded from: test-admin)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
> mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
> self.Load()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
> self.Lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> self.__lock.lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
> os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
> 554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
>
> i see that it is a permission error, but where?
>
> thanks,
> Samir
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
>
From webmaster at planetphat.com Sun Jan 9 06:09:40 2000
From: webmaster at planetphat.com (Jamie Krasnoo)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:09:40 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Hrmn, I'm at a loss here. Looks like the wrapper had a problem. Check your
installation.
Jamie Krasnoo
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:46 PM
To: Jamie Krasnoo
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
That is exactly what i did. and the second set of errors that i posted was
the result.
any other suggestions?
thanks,
Samir
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto
/etc/smrsh
> and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
> without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
> its not cool to do so.
>
> Jamie Krasnoo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
>
>
>
> hello all,
>
> i am having some wrapper problems.
>
> i was getting the error:
> sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
>
> i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
> this error:
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
> (expanded from: test-admin)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
> mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
> self.Load()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
> self.Lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> self.__lock.lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
> os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
> 554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
>
> i see that it is a permission error, but where?
>
> thanks,
> Samir
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
>
------------------------------------------------------
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
From brian at cowan.edu.au Sun Jan 9 09:13:57 2000
From: brian at cowan.edu.au (Brian Anderson)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:13:57 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman cron error
Message-ID:
G'day,
I'm getting the following message from cron....
Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python
/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
main()
File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
AttributeError: strptime
... I'm running Mailman 1.1 on a RedHat 6.1 system. Unfortunately I'm not
a python person so I'm not sure whats causing the problem so any clues
will be gratefully received :-)
Many thanks
brian
=========================================================================
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From ricardo at miss-janet.com Sun Jan 9 11:32:19 2000
From: ricardo at miss-janet.com (Ricardo Kustner)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:32:19 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to solve SMTP relaying denied problems
In-Reply-To: <3877FCE3.511D98A2@mayidsgn.com.hk>; from roberto@mayidsgn.com.hk on Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 11:13:40AM +0800
References: <3877FCE3.511D98A2@mayidsgn.com.hk>
Message-ID: <20000109113219.A3368@miss-janet.com>
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 11:13:40AM +0800, roberto wrote:
> ... TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx at yyy.com
> ... TrySMTPDelivery: Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPRecipientsRefused /
> {'xxx at yyy.com': (550, '... Relaying denied')} (dequeued)
> What should I do?
> Thanks for help.
you need to tell your local MTA (sendmail, exim, qmail, postfix... or which
ever you are using) to allow relaying through the localhost...
Ricardo.
--
From Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk Sun Jan 9 21:52:57 2000
From: Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:52:57 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounce Detection for: exim, postfix
In-Reply-To: Message from "Barry A. Warsaw"
of "Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:07:23 EST." <14454.3899.944759.319200@anthem.cnri.reston.va.us>
Message-ID:
bwarsaw at cnri.reston.va.us said:
> I'll agree that it's sad that many MTA authors feel they can't adopt
> one of the existing standards.
I guess this is because other than DSN there is no accepted written
standard - and DSN is pretty much unworkable in practice (it has too
many additional implications).
Just to make things nastier, one of the things asked for by exim users
was customisable bounce messages - and pretty much all elements can be
morphed. The one very easy standard piece of an exim bounce is the
x-failed-recipients header - if its there then it lists the recipients
that failed (addresses given in the form that the bouncing MTA received
them - this means its still a problem if a message forwarded from a
remote machine bounces since the address will be different to that the
list knows about).
Nigel.
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From garret at satix.net Mon Jan 10 01:53:33 2000
From: garret at satix.net (Garret Krampe)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:53:33 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] NO hassles list script for RH 6 Linux
Message-ID: <38792D8D.AF4FF12F@satix.net>
NOTE: Edit the file and Change ADMIN and PASS
file: /home/mailman/bin/nlist
usage: ./nlist
#!/bin/bash
LIST=$1
ADMIN=$2
PASS=$3
if [ "$#" = "1" ] ; then
ADMIN=fred_bloggs at muffy.org ##### ADMIN
PASS=muffy ##### PASS
echo "creating $LIST for $ADMIN passwrd: $PASS"
else
if [ "$#" = "3" ] ; then
echo "creating $LIST for $ADMIN passwrd: $PASS"
else
echo "$0 "
echo "$0 AUTO creates a list, adds to /etc/aliases and restarts
sendmail"
echo "by Garret Krampe"
exit 5
fi
fi
exit
FOUND=`cat /etc/aliases | grep "^$LIST:"`
if [ "$FOUND" = "" ] ; then
echo "Checked /etc/aliases ... List name is OK"
else
echo "Checked /etc/aliases ... List name EXISTS "
echo "$FOUND"
exit 10
fi
if [ -f /home/mailman/lists/$LIST ] ; then
echo "List already exists ... use rmlist -a $LIST to remove it "
exit 20
else
echo "New list $LIST is OK to CREATE"
fi
rm -f /tmp/newaliases
su - mailman -c "bin/newlist $LIST $ADMIN $PASS $PASS | egrep -v 'Entry'
>>/tmp/newaliases"
su - mailman -c "echo $ADMIN | bin/add_members -n - -c n -w y $LIST "
cat /tmp/newaliases >>/etc/aliases
rm -f /tmp/newaliases
sendmail -biv
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start
echo "Done $LIST Created Password $PASS"
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From secabeen at pobox.com Mon Jan 10 16:51:56 2000
From: secabeen at pobox.com (Ted Cabeen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:51:56 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 08 Jan 2000 21:09:40 PST."
Message-ID: <200001101551.JAA17995@entropy.uchicago.edu>
In message , "Jamie Kras
noo" writes:
>Hrmn, I'm at a loss here. Looks like the wrapper had a problem. Check your
>installation.
Try running ~mailman/bin/check_perms -f
It looks like a permission problem. The above will force the permissions to
the correct values.
>On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
>
>> You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto
>/etc/smrsh
>> and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
>> without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
>> its not cool to do so.
>>
>> Jamie Krasnoo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
>> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
>> To: mailman-users at python.org
>> Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
>>
>>
>>
>> hello all,
>>
>> i am having some wrapper problems.
>>
>> i was getting the error:
>> sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
>> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
>>
>> i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
>> this error:
>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
>> (expanded from: test-admin)
>>
>> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> Traceback (innermost last):
>> File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
>> mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
>> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
>> self.Load()
>> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
>> self.Lock()
>> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
>> self.__lock.lock()
>> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
>> os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
>> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
>> 554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
>>
>> i see that it is a permission error, but where?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Samir
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From secabeen at pobox.com Mon Jan 10 16:53:02 2000
From: secabeen at pobox.com (Ted Cabeen)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:53:02 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman cron error
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 09 Jan 2000 16:13:57 +0800."
Message-ID: <200001101553.JAA18012@entropy.uchicago.edu>
In message , Br
ian Anderson writes:
>G'day,
>I'm getting the following message from cron....
>
>Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python
> /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
>
>Traceback (innermost last):
> File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
> main()
> File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
> time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
>AttributeError: strptime
>
>... I'm running Mailman 1.1 on a RedHat 6.1 system. Unfortunately I'm not
>a python person so I'm not sure whats causing the problem so any clues
>will be gratefully received :-)
Install the Python 1.5.2 RPM.
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From roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk Mon Jan 10 17:13:58 2000
From: roberto at mayidsgn.com.hk (roberto)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:13:58 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to solve SMTP relaying denied problems
References: <3877FCE3.511D98A2@mayidsgn.com.hk> <20000109113219.A3368@miss-janet.com>
Message-ID: <387A0546.EB6ABF0D@mayidsgn.com.hk>
I add a line "define(`LOCAL_RELAY', `myhost.yyy.com') in sendmail.mc and run
m4 /etc/sendmail.mc > /etc/sendmail.cf
Is it right?
However, I receive the following message after sending test message to the
mailing list:
--------------------------------------------------
Subject:
Postmaster notify: Service unavailable
Date:
Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:18:06 +0800
From:
Mail Delivery Subsystem
To:
postmaster at myhost.yyy.com
The original message was received at Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:18:06 +0800
from localhost
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner opensource2"
(expanded from: opensource2-admin)
----- Transcript of session follows -----
sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner opensource2"... Service unavailable
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for help.
Roberto
Ricardo Kustner wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 11:13:40AM +0800, roberto wrote:
> > ... TrySMTPDelivery: To xxx at yyy.com
> > ... TrySMTPDelivery: Mailman.pythonlib.smtplib.SMTPRecipientsRefused /
> > {'xxx at yyy.com': (550, '... Relaying denied')} (dequeued)
> > What should I do?
> > Thanks for help.
>
> you need to tell your local MTA (sendmail, exim, qmail, postfix... or which
> ever you are using) to allow relaying through the localhost...
>
> Ricardo.
>
> --
From jmackenzie at local.ie Mon Jan 10 17:17:13 2000
From: jmackenzie at local.ie (John MacKenzie)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:17:13 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Not archiving
In-Reply-To: <20000109170003.E03D81CD1A@dinsdale.python.org>
References: <20000109170003.E03D81CD1A@dinsdale.python.org>
Message-ID: <00011016180205.02515@samsara.local.ie>
Hi guys,
It appears as though my mailman installation isn't archiving?
Any ideas?
Thanks
- John
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From aggarwal at dti.net Mon Jan 10 17:57:00 2000
From: aggarwal at dti.net (Samir Aggarwal)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:57:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To: <200001101551.JAA17995@entropy.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID:
I did that too, and still get the same errors.
hmmm, i am at a total loss.
there is probably some configuration setting i am not aware of, either in
mailman or sendmail-8.9.3
i even tried creating a new sendmail.cf without the smrsh option.
Has anyone got mailman to work with RedHat 6.1?
thanks,
Samir
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ted Cabeen wrote:
> In message , "Jamie Kras
> noo" writes:
> >Hrmn, I'm at a loss here. Looks like the wrapper had a problem. Check your
> >installation.
>
> Try running ~mailman/bin/check_perms -f
> It looks like a permission problem. The above will force the permissions to
> the correct values.
>
> >On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> >
> >> You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto
> >/etc/smrsh
> >> and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
> >> without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
> >> its not cool to do so.
> >>
> >> Jamie Krasnoo
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> >> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
> >> To: mailman-users at python.org
> >> Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hello all,
> >>
> >> i am having some wrapper problems.
> >>
> >> i was getting the error:
> >> sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> >> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
> >>
> >> i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
> >> this error:
> >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> >> "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
> >> (expanded from: test-admin)
> >>
> >> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> >> Traceback (innermost last):
> >> File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
> >> mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
> >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
> >> self.Load()
> >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
> >> self.Lock()
> >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> >> self.__lock.lock()
> >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
> >> os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
> >> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
> >> 554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
> >>
> >> i see that it is a permission error, but where?
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> Samir
>
> --
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> Check Website or finger for PGP Public Key secabeen at midway.uchicago.edu
> "I have taken all knowledge to be my province." -F. Bacon cococabeen at aol.com
> "Human kind cannot bear very much reality."-T.S.Eliot 73126.626 at compuserve.com
>
>
>
From tekton at ns.planetphat.com Mon Jan 10 18:36:29 2000
From: tekton at ns.planetphat.com (tekton at ns.planetphat.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:36:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Mines working fine and I have no problems. I'm also using Redhat 6.1 and I
don't think I've done anything special to it.
Jamie Krasnoo
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Samir Aggarwal wrote:
>
> I did that too, and still get the same errors.
> hmmm, i am at a total loss.
> there is probably some configuration setting i am not aware of, either in
> mailman or sendmail-8.9.3
>
> i even tried creating a new sendmail.cf without the smrsh option.
>
> Has anyone got mailman to work with RedHat 6.1?
>
> thanks,
> Samir
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ted Cabeen wrote:
>
> > In message , "Jamie Kras
> > noo" writes:
> > >Hrmn, I'm at a loss here. Looks like the wrapper had a problem. Check your
> > >installation.
> >
> > Try running ~mailman/bin/check_perms -f
> > It looks like a permission problem. The above will force the permissions to
> > the correct values.
> >
> > >On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jamie Krasnoo wrote:
> > >
> > >> You need to create a symbolic link to wrapper in /etc/smrsh. Goto
> > >/etc/smrsh
> > >> and then ln -s /path/to/mailman/mail/wrapper wrapper. Restart sendmail.
> > >> without this link in smrsh, sendmail won't run the wrapper since it thinks
> > >> its not cool to do so.
> > >>
> > >> Jamie Krasnoo
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
> > >> [mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Samir Aggarwal
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 8:21 PM
> > >> To: mailman-users at python.org
> > >> Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> hello all,
> > >>
> > >> i am having some wrapper problems.
> > >>
> > >> i was getting the error:
> > >> sh: wrapper not available for sendmail programs
> > >> 554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner test"... Service unavailable
> > >>
> > >> i followed the directions listed in the install, and now i am receiving
> > >> this error:
> > >> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > >> "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"
> > >> (expanded from: test-admin)
> > >>
> > >> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > >> Traceback (innermost last):
> > >> File "/home/mailman/scripts/mailowner", line 42, in ?
> > >> mlist = MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1])
> > >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62, in __init__
> > >> self.Load()
> > >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 804, in Load
> > >> self.Lock()
> > >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> > >> self.__lock.lock()
> > >> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 186, in lock
> > >> os.link(self.__lockfile, self.__tmpfname)
> > >> OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
> > >> 554 "|/etc/smrsh/wrapper mailowner test"... unknown mailer error 1
> > >>
> > >> i see that it is a permission error, but where?
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >> Samir
> >
> > --
> > Ted Cabeen http://www.pobox.com/~secabeen secabeen at pobox.com
> > Check Website or finger for PGP Public Key secabeen at midway.uchicago.edu
> > "I have taken all knowledge to be my province." -F. Bacon cococabeen at aol.com
> > "Human kind cannot bear very much reality."-T.S.Eliot 73126.626 at compuserve.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
From jrappold at SCOCA-K12.ORG Mon Jan 10 19:30:36 2000
From: jrappold at SCOCA-K12.ORG (John Rappold)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:30:36 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Editing Main Mailman page
Message-ID:
Hi,
we are redesigning our web site, and I need to be able to edit the main
mailman page to change the font style, colors etc. I also need to add a
nvigation bar on top, and a sidebar menu. Where is the code for this page
located, and are there any special procedures I need to follow so that I
don't mess things up?
Thanks,
John
----------------------------------------------
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Cisco Academy Regional Coordinator/Webmaster
South Central Ohio Computer Association
http://www.scoca-k12.org
From jerry at scoregroup.com Mon Jan 10 22:44:46 2000
From: jerry at scoregroup.com (Jerry Thomas)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:44:46 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Turning off passwords
Message-ID:
Hello, I'd like to thank everybody who helped me set up mailman for a
couple of days I was at my wits end and found answers to my apache
configuration problems. Thanks alot.
I do have a question though, is there any way to turn off the use of
password authentication to unsubscribe from the mailing list via the
webpages.
Thank You,
Jerry Thomas
From igorl at life.uiuc.edu Tue Jan 11 01:32:15 2000
From: igorl at life.uiuc.edu (Igor S. Livshits)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:32:15 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Bounces from a funky address choke Mailman
Message-ID:
Hi,
It seems that bounced messages from an address such as
seem to crash
Mailman:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 "|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner aergc"... unknown mailer error 1
Has anyone else encountered such behavior?
Thanks, igor
From c.davis at actrix.gen.nz Tue Jan 11 02:07:24 2000
From: c.davis at actrix.gen.nz (Christine Davis)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:07:24 +1300
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Daily Digests Which Haven't Met the Threshold Size...
Message-ID: <03d001bf5bd0$38d8a2f0$641560cb@solomon.actrix.gen.nz>
When do these get sent out? As far as I can see, they are just sent out "daily" whenever that means. Is there a place where I can set the time they are sent out?
Cheers,
Christine
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From tfortin at ifilm.com Tue Jan 11 03:08:08 2000
From: tfortin at ifilm.com (Thomas Fortin)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:08:08 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman config docs ?
Message-ID: <387A9091.9CC5876C@ifilm.com>
I have just setup Mailman 1.1 but want to use it mainly as a one to many
mlm. Is there some docs or more complete FAQs about adding a user to a
list by email without confirmation (by including an approve password ?)
or other ways to modify the way Mailman works to fit better a
distribution list as opposed to a discussion list.
Thanks
Thomas
From claw at cp.net Tue Jan 11 03:44:01 2000
From: claw at cp.net (J C Lawrence)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:44:01 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Daily Digests Which Haven't Met the Threshold Size...
In-Reply-To: Message from "Christine Davis"
of "Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:07:24 +1300." <03d001bf5bd0$38d8a2f0$641560cb@solomon.actrix.gen.nz>
References: <03d001bf5bd0$38d8a2f0$641560cb@solomon.actrix.gen.nz>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:07:24 +1300
Christine Davis wrote:
> When do these get sent out? As far as I can see, they are just
> sent out = "daily" whenever that means. Is there a place where I
> can set the time = they are sent out?
That's controlled by the mailman cron jobs. See the relevent
crontab...
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From mhart2 at san.rr.com Tue Jan 11 08:30:41 2000
From: mhart2 at san.rr.com (Hart Family)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:30:41 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] listinfo.cgi not allowing users to digest or unsub [newbie]
Message-ID:
Users can use listinfo.cgi to sub/unsub/digest/nodigest, and
all appears to work, but only subs are actually working. I'm
having to do all the other stuff myself. Help!!!
I'm a newbie, so I fully expect that this is documented somewhere
and I just haven't found it yet.
Thanks for helping!
J. Hart
From jmackenzie at local.ie Tue Jan 11 12:01:48 2000
From: jmackenzie at local.ie (John MacKenzie)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:01:48 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Cron /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
Message-ID: <00011111025008.02515@samsara.local.ie>
Hi folks ,
I sent a mail yesterday about my Archives not working correctly....
I'm also getting this cronjob output.
Anyone know how to fix?
thanks
- John
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:27:01 GMT
From: root at localweb.local.ie (Cron Daemon)
List clare-crier has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/clare-crier
List dublin-music has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/dublin-music
List dublin-news has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/dublin-news
List eircomlearning-news has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/eircomlearning-news
List foroige-notes has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/foroige-notes
List kiltegan-newsletter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/kiltegan-newsletter
List longford-lore-old has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/longford-lore-old
List roscommon-reporter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/roscommon-reporter
List shillelagh-times has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/shillelagh-times
List louth-letter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/louth-letter
List competition has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/competition
List local-ancestors has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/local-ancestors
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From Mark.Martinec at ijs.si Tue Jan 11 12:03:11 2000
From: Mark.Martinec at ijs.si (Mark Martinec)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:03:11 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Case-sensitivity problem in remove_members and sync_members
Message-ID: <01JKKSZ47HEA001HAP@CATHY.IJS.SI>
Using Mailman 1.1 and Python 1.5.2.
Both the sync_members and remove_members have
case-sensitivity problems when deleting members.
My list members have capitalized names (e.g. Name.Surname at domain).
The command:
bin/remove_members my-list Name.Surname at ijs.si
doesn't remove the member and reports no errors,
no matter how many times I run it, but:
bin/remove_members my-list name.surname at ijs.si
removes the member correctly.
The sync_members is trickier, it doesn't help to lowercase
the e-mail address in the file to be synced - it reports:
Removed: name.surname at domain ( Name.Surname at domain)
and logs in logs/subscribe:
Jan 10 19:12:41 2000 my-list: deleted Name.Surname at domain
yet it does nothing - the member is still in the list
and the next invocation of sync_members tries to remove it again.
I had to change routine MailList.py\DoActualRemoval to
use string.lower(alias) instead of 'alias' in performing 'del'.
The sync_members now does its job correctly.
If it matters: the initial members list was created by
running sync_members against an empty list.
Regards
Mark
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From root at sco.theporch.com Tue Jan 11 14:05:13 2000
From: root at sco.theporch.com (Phillip Porch)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:05:13 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Fwd: Cron /usr/bin/python
/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
In-Reply-To: <00011111025008.02515@samsara.local.ie>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, John MacKenzie wrote:
> Hi folks ,
> I sent a mail yesterday about my Archives not working correctly....
> I'm also getting this cronjob output.
> Anyone know how to fix?
> thanks
> - John
These archives don't have any postings in them. As soon as there is
something in them, that message will stop.
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
> Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:27:01 GMT
> From: root at localweb.local.ie (Cron Daemon)
>
>
> List clare-crier has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/clare-crier
> List dublin-music has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/dublin-music
> List dublin-news has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/dublin-news
> List eircomlearning-news has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/eircomlearning-news
> List foroige-notes has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/foroige-notes
> List kiltegan-newsletter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/kiltegan-newsletter
> List longford-lore-old has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/longford-lore-old
> List roscommon-reporter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/roscommon-reporter
> List shillelagh-times has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/shillelagh-times
> List louth-letter has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/louth-letter
> List competition has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/competition
> List local-ancestors has a bogus archive_directory: /home/mailman/archives/private/local-ancestors
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From andyh at littoralis.co.uk Tue Jan 11 15:33:09 2000
From: andyh at littoralis.co.uk (Andy Holyer)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:33:09 -0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Oops! I've broken Mailman...
Message-ID:
I needed more space on the /usr partition of the server I run
(FreeBSD-stable 3.4), so I transferred /usr/local (where the mailman log
tree is found onto /users and added a symbolic link for /usr/local.
(I used tar cf - {files} | cd {} ; tar xvf -) so that it should have
retained file permissions and dates)
It now turns out that when I try to post to one of my lists, I got:
: Command died with status 1:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post littoralis-management". Command
output: Traceback (innermost last): File
"/usr/local/mailman/scripts/post", line 45, in ? mlist =
MailList.MailList(sys.argv[1]) File
"/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 60, in __init__
self.Load() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 767,
in
Load self.Lock() File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py",
line
1337, in Lock 'a+') File "/usr/local/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py",
line 220, in open return _posixfile_().open(name, mode, bufsize)
File
"/usr/local/lib/python1.5/posixfile.py", line 81, in open return
self.fileopen(__builtin__.open(name, mode, bufsize)) IOError: [Errno 13]
Permission denied: '/usr/local/mailman/locks/littoralis-management.lock'
Exception exceptions.AttributeError: '_file_' in ignored
I upgraded to version 1.1, and after some looking around, set ~mailman/locks
to g+w, which took away this problem. I now have this problem:
: Command died with status 2:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post littoralis-management"
Any suggestions? I don't really want to strip the whole system out and
reinstall, since I there are live lists running on this server.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Andy Holyer, Learn the Internet Ltd., Lewes, UK
From ptomblin at xcski.com Tue Jan 11 16:01:55 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Oops! I've broken Mailman...
In-Reply-To: ; from Andy Holyer on Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 02:33:09PM -0000
References:
Message-ID: <20000111100155.A24611@xcski.com>
Quoting Andy Holyer (andyh at littoralis.co.uk):
> I needed more space on the /usr partition of the server I run
> (FreeBSD-stable 3.4), so I transferred /usr/local (where the mailman log
> tree is found onto /users and added a symbolic link for /usr/local.
>
> (I used tar cf - {files} | cd {} ; tar xvf -) so that it should have
> retained file permissions and dates)
Actually, I think the final tar should have been "tar xvpf -" in order to
preserve permissions.
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From pfaffman at relax.com Tue Jan 11 17:13:09 2000
From: pfaffman at relax.com (Jay Pfaffman)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:13:09 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?
Message-ID: <200001111613.KAA31070@poisson.relax.com>
I have a user using IE5 who claims that he cannot see any of the
subscribers list pages except the first and that he cannot approve any
postings. This seems consistent with problems I've seen in other
places where IE5 does not reload pages when it should. Posting data to
the same url as the current page just redisplays the page without
sending the data to the server for a new version of the page.
Is it my imagination or is IE5 horribly broken?
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:25:54 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] 35MB webspcace FREE
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From steve.haslam at excitehome.net Tue Jan 11 21:07:40 2000
From: steve.haslam at excitehome.net (Steve Haslam)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:07:40 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Editing Main Mailman page
Message-ID: <20000111200737.A3663@excitecorp.com>
> we are redesigning our web site, and I need to be able to edit the
> main mailman page to change the font style, colors etc. I also need
> to add a nvigation bar on top, and a sidebar menu. Where is the code
> for this page located, and are there any special procedures I need
> to follow so that I don't mess things up?
afaict, the main listinfo/ page is hardcoded into
Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py, at least in 1.1.
Hopefully this will be made into a template soon?
SRH
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From alex at phred.org Tue Jan 11 21:49:49 2000
From: alex at phred.org (alex wetmore)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:49:49 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?
References: <200001111613.KAA31070@poisson.relax.com>
Message-ID: <03cd01bf5c75$67b1fc70$01fa3b9d@AWETMOREDEV>
From: "Jay Pfaffman"
> I have a user using IE5 who claims that he cannot see any of the
> subscribers list pages except the first and that he cannot approve any
> postings. This seems consistent with problems I've seen in other
> places where IE5 does not reload pages when it should. Posting data to
> the same url as the current page just redisplays the page without
> sending the data to the server for a new version of the page.
>
> Is it my imagination or is IE5 horribly broken?
I've been using IE5 (on Windows 2000) to administrate and subscribe to a
number of mailman lists (some on my machine and some on others) with no
problems. It is just as likely that there is a broken proxy server in
between him and your server.
alex
From monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org Tue Jan 11 21:59:22 2000
From: monkeymaster at crackmonkey.org (Monkey Master)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:59:22 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?
In-Reply-To: <200001111613.KAA31070@poisson.relax.com>; from pfaffman@relax.com on Tue, Jan 11, 2000 at 10:13:09AM -0600
References: <200001111613.KAA31070@poisson.relax.com>
Message-ID: <20000111125922.F23109@zork.net>
begin Jay Pfaffman quotation:
> Is it my imagination or is IE5 horribly broken?
http://crackmonkey.org/fanmail.html
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From pfaffman at relax.com Tue Jan 11 23:15:14 2000
From: pfaffman at relax.com (Jay Pfaffman)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:15:14 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?
In-Reply-To: <03cd01bf5c75$67b1fc70$01fa3b9d@AWETMOREDEV> (alex@phred.org)
References: <200001111613.KAA31070@poisson.relax.com> <03cd01bf5c75$67b1fc70$01fa3b9d@AWETMOREDEV>
Message-ID: <200001112215.QAA08088@content.ltc.Vanderbilt.Edu>
Sorry to bother the list with this. I can't replicate the problem I
wrote about earlier. Stop reading now unless you want to read more
about how nothing's wrong with Mailman and IE5.
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:49:49 -0800, "alex wetmore" said:
> From: "Jay Pfaffman"
>> I have a user using IE5 who claims that he cannot see any of the
>> subscribers list pages except the first and that he cannot approve any
>> postings. This seems consistent with problems I've seen in other
>> places where IE5 does not reload pages when it should. Posting data to
>> the same url as the current page just redisplays the page without
>> sending the data to the server for a new version of the page.
>>
>> Is it my imagination or is IE5 horribly broken?
> I've been using IE5 (on Windows 2000) to administrate and subscribe to a
> number of mailman lists (some on my machine and some on others) with no
> problems. It is just as likely that there is a broken proxy server in
> between him and your server.
Thanks for your answer. Now that I've managed to gain access to a
WinXX box I see that it's working fine for me to & I can go back to
believing that either this user or some proxy server is at fault.
I'd heard reports of MSIE improperly caching pages, but of the two
problems I'd had, I've fixed one (my code was at fault) and the other
(the mailman problem) is not reproducible.
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From brian at cowan.edu.au Wed Jan 12 09:10:32 2000
From: brian at cowan.edu.au (Brian Anderson)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:32 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Mailman cron error
In-Reply-To: <200001101553.JAA18012@entropy.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID:
EG'day Ted,
Thanks for the tip - it worked :-)
regards
brian
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Ted Cabeen wrote:
> In message , Br
> ian Anderson writes:
> >G'day,
> >I'm getting the following message from cron....
> >
> >Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python
> > /usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
> >
> >Traceback (innermost last):
> > File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
> > main()
> > File "/usr/local/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
> > time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
> >AttributeError: strptime
> >
> >... I'm running Mailman 1.1 on a RedHat 6.1 system. Unfortunately I'm not
> >a python person so I'm not sure whats causing the problem so any clues
> >will be gratefully received :-)
>
> Install the Python 1.5.2 RPM.
>
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>
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From cfkwok at hknet.com Wed Jan 12 17:33:39 2000
From: cfkwok at hknet.com (cfkwok)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:33:39 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] found error in maillog: unavailable service ...
Message-ID: <387CACE3.AA54F83A@hknet.com>
Dear all,
I installed mailman and created new mailing list.
Until now, I cannot use the mailing list to send out mail.
I found that following errors occur in /var/log/maillog:
------------------------------------------------
Jan .... smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use wrapper post test
Jan .... sendmail[3111]: XAA03111: to="|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper post
test", delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, stat=Service
unavailable
Jan .... sendmail[3111]: XAA03111: XAB03111: DSN: Service unavailable
------------------------------------------------
Similar message occur for "wrapper mailowner test"
uid 8 is the user "mail"
How to solve this problem?
Hope for helps!
Thanks!
C.F.Kwok
From gregk at redback.com Wed Jan 12 18:12:30 2000
From: gregk at redback.com (Greg Kilfoyle)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:12:30 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nightly_gzip failure with new list
Message-ID: <387CB5FE.70A0843@redback.com>
Hi,
I've just recently setup mailman on my server (RedHat 6.1, Linux
2.2.10). I added a list and subscribed. The nightly archive cron job
reported an error but I ignored it as there was no traffic on the list
yet. I sent a test message to the list (which worked). The nightly cron
job nightly_gzip failed; here is the cron output:
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
main()
File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
AttributeError: strptime
Any ideas? I've never played with python so I can't easily debug this.
Thanks, Greg.
--
Greg Kilfoyle (gregk at redback.com)
From ptomblin at xcski.com Wed Jan 12 18:35:06 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:35:06 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nightly_gzip failure with new list
In-Reply-To: <387CB5FE.70A0843@redback.com>; from Greg Kilfoyle on Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:12:30AM -0800
References: <387CB5FE.70A0843@redback.com>
Message-ID: <20000112123506.B27377@xcski.com>
Quoting Greg Kilfoyle (gregk at redback.com):
> I've just recently setup mailman on my server (RedHat 6.1, Linux
> 2.2.10). I added a list and subscribed. The nightly archive cron job
> AttributeError: strptime
Grab the updated Python rpm from updates.redhat.com.
--
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From michael at spconnect.com Wed Jan 12 18:56:45 2000
From: michael at spconnect.com (Michael Ghens)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:56:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: UnPenguin (Was: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?)
In-Reply-To: <20000112170006.4C20B1CE8E@dinsdale.python.org>
Message-ID:
This site has some bad script code in it.
That attempts to over write system DLL's.
Very UnPenguin.
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:59:22 -0800
> From: Monkey Master
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?
>
> begin Jay Pfaffman quotation:
> > Is it my imagination or is IE5 horribly broken?
>
> http://crackmonkey.org/fanmail.html
>
> --
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>
From deirdre at deirdre.net Wed Jan 12 19:06:49 2000
From: deirdre at deirdre.net (Deirdre Saoirse)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:06:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: UnPenguin (Was: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?)
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Michael Ghens wrote:
> This site has some bad script code in it.
>
> That attempts to over write system DLL's.
Any browser lame enough to actually DO something like that, well, imho,
the user deserves what they get.
> Very UnPenguin.
LOL, um, it wouldn't work on Linux. Your point?
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From saa at bright.net Thu Jan 13 01:01:33 2000
From: saa at bright.net (Chris)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:01:33 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] unknown mailer error 1
Message-ID:
We recently had to relocate our email to a different computer
(including mailman).
redhat linux 6 w/sendmail
we have the simlink in the "/etc/smrsh/wrapper" pointing to
/home/mailman/mail/wrapper.
I'm seeing the following error:
"|/home/mailman/mail/wrapper mailowner chatadmin"...unknown
mailer error 1
Ok, what dumb thing(s) did I do to hose up the transfer to the
new machine??
-Chris
=========================
Enjoy Today's Technology
It's Old News Tomorrow...
=========================
From nick at zork.net Wed Jan 12 22:26:21 2000
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:26:21 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] wrapper problems
In-Reply-To: ; from aggarwal@dti.net on Mon, Jan 10, 2000 at 11:57:00AM -0500
References: <200001101551.JAA17995@entropy.uchicago.edu>
Message-ID: <20000112132621.D26772@zork.net>
begin Samir Aggarwal quotation:
> hmmm, i am at a total loss. there is probably some configuration
> setting i am not aware of, either in mailman or sendmail-8.9.3
Have you tried changing the wrapper command to
"/etc/smrsh/mailman_wrapper" or whatever your symlink was?
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From nick at zork.net Wed Jan 12 22:30:07 2000
From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:30:07 -0800
Subject: UnPenguin (Was: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?)
In-Reply-To: ; from michael@spconnect.com on Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 09:56:45AM -0800
References: <20000112170006.4C20B1CE8E@dinsdale.python.org>
Message-ID: <20000112133007.E26772@zork.net>
begin Michael Ghens quotation:
> This site has some bad script code in it.
On the contrary. It has some ludicrous script code in it.
> That attempts to over write system DLL's.
Nope. It most certainly does not do this.
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From bobb+mailman-users at redbrick.dcu.ie Wed Jan 12 22:58:51 2000
From: bobb+mailman-users at redbrick.dcu.ie (Robert Crosbie)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:58:51 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Plussed addresses
Message-ID: <20000112215851.A91838@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie>
What is the situation with using plused addresses for delimiting with mailman.
i.e I'm currently subscribed to this list as bobb+mailman-announce.
And 3 lines in my .procmailrc takes care of any mail to bobb+blah and
filters it into a blah folder.
Though to send to a list we have to fiddle the from field for the list
or allow addresses with the + bit removed, to post to the list.
eh... i.e.
if bobb+mailman-users at .... is subscribed, have to add bobb at ...
to the list of addresses that can post without being moderated.
Is there any facality to allow plussed addresses ?
I believe we are running v1.0, perhaps was it added to 1.1 or 1.2 ?
I can't seem to find anything about it on the site or list archives.
Thanking you.
- bob
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From lindsey at ncsa.uiuc.edu Wed Jan 12 23:12:57 2000
From: lindsey at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Christopher Lindsey)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:12:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Plussed addresses
In-Reply-To: <20000112215851.A91838@enigma.redbrick.dcu.ie> from "Robert Crosbie" at Jan 12, 2000 09:58:51 PM
Message-ID: <200001122212.QAA06383@glorfindel.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> What is the situation with using plused addresses for delimiting with mailman.
As far as I know, it's in the same category as quoted addresses with spaces.
Would take some serious work to make changes...
I had a solution, but haven't done anything with it:
http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/1999-February/000870.html
The biggest problem is that it would significantly slow things down
on larger lists.
I suppose that any further talk about this should be done on the
mailman-developers list.
Chris
From rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu Wed Jan 12 23:27:18 2000
From: rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu (Rick Niess)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:27:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: UnPenguin (Was: Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with IE5?)
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Michael Ghens wrote:
> > This site has some bad script code in it.
> > That attempts to over write system DLL's.
> Any browser lame enough to actually DO something like that, well, imho,
> the user deserves what they get.
Please, let's not break out into a browser war here. There are other
forums for that and this one is busy enough as it is.
~ Rick ~
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From ben at skunk.org Thu Jan 13 22:56:18 2000
From: ben at skunk.org (Ben Rosengart)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:56:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] member_posting_only flips on, won't turn off
Message-ID:
I've been having a problem with a couple of my Mailman lists: they start
behaving as if I'd turned on "member_posting_only", even though this
option isn't turned on according to the GUI.
Turning the option on in the GUI doesn't help, nor does turning it on
and back off. I found a report of this problem in the bugs database,
but someone found the word "moderated" in the bug report and refiled it
as "not a bug", saying that moderation and member_posting_only are two
different things, which hardly helps.
http://www.python.org/mailman-bugs/notabug?id=86;expression=member_posting_only;user=guest
Does anyone know of a fix for this problem?
--
Ben Rosengart
UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group
StarMedia Network, Inc.
From dereks at kd-dev.com Fri Jan 14 00:22:37 2000
From: dereks at kd-dev.com (Derek Simkowiak)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:22:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To: <20000113231750.D77531CF04@dinsdale.python.org>
Message-ID:
Hello,
I have some questions about Mailman features.
I have administered several Majordomo lists. Creating a new list
is a time-consuming process involving several steps. Without referring to
the documenation, I inevitably forget to create a file (like
listname.admin) or to set the permissions correctly.
Is the process for creating a new list comparable under Mailman?
What I'd *really* love is a web-page based mail list creation tool, or at
the very least, being able to create a list with one or two single
commands. I'm hoping to turn over mail list creation (and removal) to
someone who has no Unix skills, meaning NO experience with Unix text
editors or shell syntax.
Next question: can I alter the appearance of the web pages (white
background, blue and gold section headers) *without* editing Python code?
I haven't learned Python yet, and I wouldn't want to edit the source for
every new list anyhow. Specifically, I'd like to know if I can (1) change
the colors, (2) change the font, and (3) Nest the stuff inside some kind
of header and footer--without using server side includes--by way of a
configuration file and/or web page.
Thank You,
Derek Simkowiak
dereks at kd-dev.com
From vic at vgg.sci.uma.es Fri Jan 14 00:56:18 2000
From: vic at vgg.sci.uma.es (Victoriano Giralt)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:56:18 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Derek Simkowiak wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have some questions about Mailman features.
>
> I have administered several Majordomo lists. Creating a new list
> is a time-consuming process involving several steps. Without referring to
> the documenation, I inevitably forget to create a file (like
> listname.admin) or to set the permissions correctly.
You are in for a nice experience :)
>
> Is the process for creating a new list comparable under Mailman?
> What I'd *really* love is a web-page based mail list creation tool, or at
> the very least, being able to create a list with one or two single
> commands. I'm hoping to turn over mail list creation (and removal) to
> someone who has no Unix skills, meaning NO experience with Unix text
> editors or shell syntax.
Depends on your MTA. List creation/removal is done with a single command
$prefix/bin/newlist or $prefis/bin/rmlist. If your MTA is sendmail you
need to edit the aliases file to add the lines spit out by newlist. I
think that someone on this or the developres list has made some
enchantment to exim so it will automagically find mailman lists.
>
> Next question: can I alter the appearance of the web pages (white
> background, blue and gold section headers) *without* editing Python code?
> I haven't learned Python yet, and I wouldn't want to edit the source for
> every new list anyhow. Specifically, I'd like to know if I can (1) change
> the colors, (2) change the font, and (3) Nest the stuff inside some kind
> of header and footer--without using server side includes--by way of a
> configuration file and/or web page.
Questions 1 and 2 yes, even via web interface. 3, I'm affraid not.
--
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Systems Programmer
Central Computing Facility
University of M?laga
SPAIN
From jwing at pliantsystems.com Fri Jan 14 00:52:55 2000
From: jwing at pliantsystems.com (John Wingenbach)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:52:55 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Public list doesn't show
References:
Message-ID: <387E6557.52362260@pliantsystems.com>
I just installed mailman-1.1. Everything looked fine up until I noticed that not all my
lists are showing. I have them all listed as being listable to the public. However, only 2
out of 4 show.
On the webpage, the lists all say:
Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine? YES
Any help?
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Pliant Systems, Inc.
Sr. Systems Administrator
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From rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu Fri Jan 14 03:10:02 2000
From: rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu (Rick Niess)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:10:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Hi All,
Some comments in addition to Mr. Giralt's:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Victoriano Giralt wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Derek Simkowiak wrote:
> > I have some questions about Mailman features.
> > I have administered several Majordomo lists. Creating a new list
> > is a time-consuming process involving several steps. Without referring to
> > the documenation, I inevitably forget to create a file (like
> > listname.admin) or to set the permissions correctly.
> You are in for a nice experience :)
Indeed. For the unexperienced user, Mailman is _much_ easier and
less involved. Pretty much, once you get it installed, it's a piece of
isn't a web-oriented menthod of creating a list yet. (tho that's probably
not far off) That's not to say that creating a list is hard, but there is
some shell-based work to do.
> > Next question: can I alter the appearance of the web pages (white
> > background, blue and gold section headers) *without* editing Python code?
> > I haven't learned Python yet, and I wouldn't want to edit the source for
> > every new list anyhow. Specifically, I'd like to know if I can (1) change
> > the colors, (2) change the font, and (3) Nest the stuff inside some kind
> > of header and footer--without using server side includes--by way of a
> > configuration file and/or web page.
> Questions 1 and 2 yes, even via web interface. 3, I'm affraid not.
One clarification: you can change the appearance of each list's pages
individually via their admin web pages. However, the appearance of the
general listinfo page and the admin pages appears to be hardcoded into
mailman for now. FYI...
~ Rick ~
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From rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu Fri Jan 14 03:26:54 2000
From: rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu (Rick Niess)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:26:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Feature questions - fixed
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
Hi All,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Rick Niess wrote:
> Indeed. For the unexperienced user, Mailman is _much_ easier and
> less involved. Pretty much, once you get it installed, it's a piece of
> isn't a web-oriented menthod of creating a list yet. (tho that's probably
> not far off) That's not to say that creating a list is hard, but there is
> some shell-based work to do.
Ack! Just realized my post was missing a couple lines. It should
have said "Pretty much, once you get it installed, it's a piece of cake to
run. There are still some issues, tho. For instance, there isn't a
web-oriented method of creating a list yet." Sorry for teh confusion...
~ Rick ~
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From andreas at mtg.co.at Fri Jan 14 04:03:56 2000
From: andreas at mtg.co.at (Andreas Kostyrka)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 04:03:56 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To: ; from dereks@kd-dev.com on Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:22:37PM -0800
References: <20000113231750.D77531CF04@dinsdale.python.org>
Message-ID: <20000114040356.A25811@mtg.co.at>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 03:22:37PM -0800, Derek Simkowiak wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I have some questions about Mailman features.
>
> I have administered several Majordomo lists. Creating a new list
Well, I didn't ever tried to administer Majordomo. Must be my perl allergy ;)
> is a time-consuming process involving several steps. Without referring to
> the documenation, I inevitably forget to create a file (like
> listname.admin) or to set the permissions correctly.
>
> Is the process for creating a new list comparable under Mailman?
> What I'd *really* love is a web-page based mail list creation tool, or at
> the very least, being able to create a list with one or two single
Well, it's basically the following:
as mailman user:
newlist
- or -
newlist
This will then ask you all questions, and setup the mailing list.
It will even pause to allow the administrator to setup the mailing list
via web before going life :)
It will also prompt you to copy and paste the needed aliases to
/etc/aliases, which propably must be done as root.
> someone who has no Unix skills, meaning NO experience with Unix text
It depends if you want to trust a root password to someone with no Unix
skills, no knowledge of an editor, etc., it should be doable.
> editors or shell syntax.
Best regards,
Andreas
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From tom at suespammers.org Fri Jan 14 04:29:18 2000
From: tom at suespammers.org (Tom Geller)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:29:18 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Repost: Can someone help me debug this?
Message-ID: <200001140427.UAA16918@plushie.suespammers.org>
I posted this once before and got no response, so I'll try again...
We updated Python and a bunch of other things to get rid of one bug, and
now I get this error message a few times a day:
---begin---
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman//cron/checkdbs", line 77, in ?
main(verbose=(len(sys.argv) > 1
File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman//cron/checkdbs", line 34, in main
list = MailList.MailList(name, lock = 0)
File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 62,
in __init__
self.Load()
File "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 810,
in Load
raise Errors.MMBadListError, 'Failed to access config info'
MMBadListError: Failed to access config info
---end---
It seems to happen every time the Cron job
'/usr/local/apache/htdocs/mailman//cron/checkdbs' runs.
Any suggestions? It's on Red Hat Linux 6.0 with some updated pieces.
Except for this error message, everything seems to work fine.
Thanks,
---
Tom "I am not a lawyer" Geller
Geller Communications * San Francisco * tgeller.com
Other domains: suespammers.org, openppc.org, popcomputers.com
From ptomblin at xcski.com Fri Jan 14 04:28:04 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To: <20000114040356.A25811@mtg.co.at>; from Andreas Kostyrka on Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 04:03:56AM +0100
References: <20000113231750.D77531CF04@dinsdale.python.org> <20000114040356.A25811@mtg.co.at>
Message-ID: <20000113222804.B1730@xcski.com>
Quoting Andreas Kostyrka (andreas at mtg.co.at):
> > someone who has no Unix skills, meaning NO experience with Unix text
> It depends if you want to trust a root password to someone with no Unix
> skills, no knowledge of an editor, etc., it should be doable.
> > editors or shell syntax.
A person doesn't need the root password to add a mailing list. I made a
second aliases file, owned and writable by the mailman user id. In sendmail,
I made the mailman owner a priviledged user so that this would work, but I use
postfix now and it doesn't seem to care.
--
Paul Tomblin, not speaking for anybody.
"I find your lack of clue...disturbing" - Sysadmin Vader.
SETI at Home: http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
From pf at artcom-gmbh.de Fri Jan 14 08:38:21 2000
From: pf at artcom-gmbh.de (Peter Funk)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:38:21 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature questions
In-Reply-To: from Victoriano Giralt at "Jan 14, 2000 0:56:18 am"
Message-ID:
Hi!
Victoriano Giralt wrote:
[...]
> > Next question: can I alter the appearance of the web pages (white
> > background, blue and gold section headers) *without* editing Python code?
> > I haven't learned Python yet, and I wouldn't want to edit the source for
> > every new list anyhow. Specifically, I'd like to know if I can (1) change
> > the colors, (2) change the font, and (3) Nest the stuff inside some kind
> > of header and footer--without using server side includes--by way of a
> > configuration file and/or web page.
> Questions 1 and 2 yes, even via web interface. 3, I'm affraid not.
Where is it possible to do 1 and 2? I'm using Mailman 1.1 and haven't
found this feature yet. Please give us a hint.
BTW:
Does anyone know, how somthing like
could be made? If have found a script called 'sigs.py' on python.org,
which edits the 'index.ht' used as input to Barrys ht2html-Tool,
but this script depends on a file 'sigs.db'. Has anyone tried to
use the content of $prefix/archive directly instead? Or build a script,
which will create a file 'sigs.db' from the content of $prefix/archive?
Such a beast would be nice to create a much more appealing list overview
webpage.
Regards from Germany, Peter
--
Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, D-27777 Ganderkesee, Germany, Fax:+49 4222950260
office: +49 421 20419-0 (ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Str.8, D-28359 Bremen)
From pf at artcom-gmbh.de Fri Jan 14 08:54:04 2000
From: pf at artcom-gmbh.de (Peter Funk)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:54:04 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Public list doesn't show
In-Reply-To: <387E6557.52362260@pliantsystems.com> from John Wingenbach at "Jan 13, 2000 6:52:55 pm"
Message-ID:
Hi!
John Wingenbach wrote:
> I just installed mailman-1.1. Everything looked fine up until I noticed that not all my
> lists are showing. I have them all listed as being listable to the public. However, only 2
> out of 4 show.
>
> On the webpage, the lists all say:
>
> Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine? YES
>
>
> Any help?
I had a similar problem. It had to do with the entry
"Host name this list prefers. (Details)" on the admin page:
Since I use Mailman 1.1 only in our so called "Intranet" behind
a firewall, I entered the hostname without the domain. 'artcom7'
in my case. Now the Lists appear under
http://artcom7/mailman/listinfo
but not under
http://artcom7.artcom-gmbh.de/mailman/listinfo
which should be the same.
May be I've got something wrong with my webserver.
BTW: This is on Intel SuSE Linux 5.3 running Apache 1.3.0 and using
Python 1.5.2. I can mail configuration details, if there is anybody
interested.
Regards, Peter
--
Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, 27777 Ganderkesee, Tel: 04222 9502 70, Fax: -60
From hema at spacenetindia.com Fri Jan 14 12:34:57 2000
From: hema at spacenetindia.com (hema)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:04:57 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web-interface for adding a new mailing list.
Message-ID:
I would like to know if the web interface of mailman for administrators
provides a facility for adding or deleting a mailing list.
From Doug.Hughes at Eng.Auburn.EDU Fri Jan 14 15:52:18 2000
From: Doug.Hughes at Eng.Auburn.EDU (Doug Hughes)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:52:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] multilevel lists and spam prevention
Message-ID: <200001141452.IAA17861@netman.eng.auburn.edu>
I'm trying to split a list into several components, but I also want
a general list so that people can subscribe to the general list and
get mail from and send mail to all the sub lists. With spam prevention
rules and closed lists this becomes difficult on posting, because they'll
not be directly subscribed to the sub-lists and so not allowed to post.
(Another difficulty of course is loop prevention, but I think the hooks
are here to handle that adequately)
One way I can think of to fix this would be heirarchical lists, but
this would probably be pretty complex to incorporate. Another easier
way to do this would be to have preprocessor or macro type directives
incorporated into the subcription file. Maybe something like
#include general-list
so that anybody subscribed to general-list could also post and it
would go to all the sub-lists of general-list without
triggering the spam prevention on a closed mail list.
Thoughts?
illustration
sublist1 sublist2 sublist3
^ ^ ^
\ | /
\________subscribed to__________/
|
general-list
From mhart2 at san.rr.com Fri Jan 14 18:15:58 2000
From: mhart2 at san.rr.com (Hart Family)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:15:58 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] [Repost] listinfo.cgi not allowing users to digest or unsub [newbie]
Message-ID:
Having had no response as yet, I'll repost this with a
clarification and a question.
Only users who were added en masse via the admin screen are having
problems. They get their password mailed to them, try to make
changes, looks like it worked, but it didn't. Folks who sub normally
via the web have no problems.
And a question - where is the source for mailman? Specifically, the
source for the .cgi programs which appear to be compiled?
Thanks!
J. Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: mailman-users-admin at python.org
[mailto:mailman-users-admin at python.org]On Behalf Of Hart Family
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 11:31 PM
To: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Users] listinfo.cgi not allowing users to digest or
unsub [newbie]
Importance: High
Users can use listinfo.cgi to sub/unsub/digest/nodigest, and
all appears to work, but only subs are actually working. I'm
having to do all the other stuff myself. Help!!!
I'm a newbie, so I fully expect that this is documented somewhere
and I just haven't found it yet.
Thanks for helping!
J. Hart
------------------------------------------------------
Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
From jwing at pliantsystems.com Fri Jan 14 19:15:40 2000
From: jwing at pliantsystems.com (John Wingenbach)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:15:40 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Public list doesn't show
References:
Message-ID: <387F67CC.19B8B4A1@pliantsystems.com>
I found an easy fix. By defining VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW as 0 in mm_cfg.py, it turned off the
section of code which deals with the hostname / domain matching. I guess I am going to learn
python via the school of hard knocks. ;-)
Thanks for the insight!
-- John
Peter Funk wrote:
> Hi!
> John Wingenbach wrote:
> > I just installed mailman-1.1. Everything looked fine up until I noticed that not all my
> > lists are showing. I have them all listed as being listable to the public. However, only 2
> > out of 4 show.
> >
> > On the webpage, the lists all say:
> >
> > Advertise this list when people ask what lists are on this machine? YES
> >
> >
> > Any help?
>
> I had a similar problem. It had to do with the entry
> "Host name this list prefers. (Details)" on the admin page:
> Since I use Mailman 1.1 only in our so called "Intranet" behind
> a firewall, I entered the hostname without the domain. 'artcom7'
> in my case. Now the Lists appear under
> http://artcom7/mailman/listinfo
> but not under
> http://artcom7.artcom-gmbh.de/mailman/listinfo
> which should be the same.
>
> May be I've got something wrong with my webserver.
> BTW: This is on Intel SuSE Linux 5.3 running Apache 1.3.0 and using
> Python 1.5.2. I can mail configuration details, if there is anybody
> interested.
>
> Regards, Peter
> --
> Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, 27777 Ganderkesee, Tel: 04222 9502 70, Fax: -60
--
John C. Wingenbach
Pliant Systems, Inc.
Sr. Systems Administrator
Work: (919) 405-4627
Fax: (919) 405-4544
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From: jwing at pliantsystems.com (John Wingenbach)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:19 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Circularly nested lists?
References:
Message-ID: <387F6F73.7DE0D76B@pliantsystems.com>
I haven't seen anything mentioning it yet. However, I was wondering if
there is a built in method for ascertaining whether or not a list has a
circular list inclusion. For example:
List Member
A UserB, ListB
B ListC, ListD
C ListA
D UserX
Since the lists are defined in aliases as a pipe to a program, sendmail
won't take care of repeated recipients.
--
John C. Wingenbach
Pliant Systems, Inc.
Sr. Systems Administrator
Work: (919) 405-4627
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From claw at kanga.nu Fri Jan 14 20:00:20 2000
From: claw at kanga.nu (J C Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:00:20 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Web-interface for adding a new mailing list.
In-Reply-To: Message from hema
of "Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:04:57 +0530."
References:
Message-ID:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:04:57 +0530 (IST)
hema wrote:
> I would like to know if the web interface of mailman for
> administrators provides a facility for adding or deleting a
> mailing list.
It doesn't.
--
J C Lawrence Home: claw at kanga.nu
----------(*) Other: coder at kanga.nu
--=| A man is as sane as he is dangerous to his environment |=--
From agm at cec.uchile.cl Fri Jan 14 20:13:31 2000
From: agm at cec.uchile.cl (Aldrin Martoq)
Date: 14 Jan 2000 19:13:31 GMT
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nightly_gzip program error
Message-ID: <85nsgr$tgp$4@slinux.cec.uchile.cl>
I'm receiving this mail from crontab:
Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
Traceback (innermost last):
File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
main()
File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
AttributeError: strptime
I try to found it in the bug webpage "Jitter"
(http://www.python.org/mailman-bugs) , but is not reported... What can I do?
(And what isn't working well?)
--
Aldrin.
From ptomblin at xcski.com Fri Jan 14 21:02:54 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:02:54 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nightly_gzip program error
In-Reply-To: <85nsgr$tgp$4@slinux.cec.uchile.cl>; from Aldrin Martoq on Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 07:13:31PM +0000
References: <85nsgr$tgp$4@slinux.cec.uchile.cl>
Message-ID: <20000114150254.B30663@xcski.com>
Quoting Aldrin Martoq (agm at cec.uchile.cl):
> I'm receiving this mail from crontab:
>
> Subject: Cron /usr/bin/python /home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 143, in ?
> main()
> File "/home/mailman/cron/nightly_gzip", line 114, in main
> time.strptime(f, '%Y-%B.txt')
> AttributeError: strptime
This means you're using the python RPM that came with RedHat, instead of
downloading and updating to the new one on ftp://updates.redhat.com
(it's python-1.5.2-7.*)
It's an exceptionally bad idea to put a Linux box on the net without regularly
checking for updates there - many are fixes for SIGNIFICANT security holes.
--
Paul Tomblin, not speaking for anybody.
"I find your lack of clue...disturbing" - Sysadmin Vader.
SETI at Home: http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
From tkratowicz at KNEX.com Fri Jan 14 22:56:30 2000
From: tkratowicz at KNEX.com (Tony Kratowicz)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:56:30 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
Message-ID:
Greetings all,
I would like to know if there is any way to disable the password feature. I
searched the archives but I was unable to locate any info on how to do this.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tony Kratowicz
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From fil at bok.net Fri Jan 14 23:07:37 2000
From: fil at bok.net (Fil)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:07:37 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Passwords
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Tony Kratowicz wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I would like to know if there is any way to disable the password feature. I
> searched the archives but I was unable to locate any info on how to do this.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony Kratowicz
>
This is what I sent last week, with no answer yet as to its inclusion into
mailman. However the patch works, so it might be usefull to you.
>From mailman-developers-admin at python.org Fri Jan 7 14:58:28 2000
From: Fil
To: mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] dont request passwords from web subscriber
patch
Hi,
could the maintainers tell me if this patch is accepted or rejected ? It's
important to make it easy to subscribe ; and the patch does not diminish
in anything the behavior of mailman or the possibilities of users, as the
latter can choose to modify the random password created for them. Other
important effect : it avoids that naive users give away their "real" (ie
personal email's) password into our subscribers's databases.
Thanks.
Patch name : dont request passwords from web subscriber
Patch by : 7 Jan 2000
File modified : Mailman/Cgi/subscribe.py
Reason : do not request a password from the subscriber. It is
cumbersome and not really usefull. Instead, create a
random password (for compatibility with the current
system accept the password given if one is given).
diff subscribe.py subscribe.py-dist
126,127c126,128
< pw = Utils.MakeRandomPassword()
< pwc = pw
---
> error = 1
> results = (results
> + "You must supply a valid password, and confirm
> it.
")
From jer at jorsm.com Fri Jan 14 23:47:02 2000
From: jer at jorsm.com (Jeremy Shaffner)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:47:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom username
Message-ID:
Why isn't there a configure option to install Mailman as a user other
than 'mailman'? A --with-username=NAME would be excellent.
I ask because 'mailman' has already in use by one of our users. Probably
a postal worker. :)
-Jeremy
-=========================================================================-
Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
-=========================================================================-
From saille at bleah.com Sat Jan 15 00:46:37 2000
From: saille at bleah.com (Saille Warner Norton)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:46:37 -0800
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom username
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000114154452.009db290@pop.ipac.caltech.edu>
Try editing your "MAILMAN_UID" option in your Makefile.
At 04:47 PM 01/14/2000 -0600, Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
>Why isn't there a configure option to install Mailman as a user other
>than 'mailman'? A --with-username=NAME would be excellent.
>
>I ask because 'mailman' has already in use by one of our users. Probably
>a postal worker. :)
>
>-Jeremy
>
>
>-=========================================================================-
>Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
>System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
>jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
>support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
>http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
>-=========================================================================-
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------
>Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
>http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
From mr at uue.org Sat Jan 15 01:47:50 2000
From: mr at uue.org (Michael Reinsch)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:47:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] message templates
Message-ID: <20000115004708.F38992177@lola.uue.Org>
Hi!
Is there a way to change (i.e. translate) the message templates (help etc)
per mailinglist in the current version of mailman?
How about NLS for these message templates? :)
--
Michael Reinsch http://mr.uue.org
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From jer at jorsm.com Sat Jan 15 04:28:53 2000
From: jer at jorsm.com (Jeremy Shaffner)
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:28:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom username
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000114154452.009db290@pop.ipac.caltech.edu>
Message-ID:
Except that 'mailman' is hardcoded into lots of places, including
the configure[.in] script. It doesn't get far enough to generate a
Makefile.
-Jeremy
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Saille Warner Norton wrote:
> Try editing your "MAILMAN_UID" option in your Makefile.
>
>
> At 04:47 PM 01/14/2000 -0600, Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
>
> >Why isn't there a configure option to install Mailman as a user other
> >than 'mailman'? A --with-username=NAME would be excellent.
> >
> >I ask because 'mailman' has already in use by one of our users. Probably
> >a postal worker. :)
> >
> >-Jeremy
> >
> >
> >-=========================================================================-
> >Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
> >System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
> >jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
> >support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
> >http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
> >-=========================================================================-
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------
> >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> >http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
-=========================================================================-
Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
-=========================================================================-
From admin at safe-guard-cz.cz Sat Jan 15 21:22:24 2000
From: admin at safe-guard-cz.cz (=?iso-8859-1?B?Smn47SBGYXJh?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 21:22:24 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #447 - 12 msgs
Message-ID: <001c01bf5f96$3d418360$d06214d4@pc-fara2>
-----P?vodn? zpr?va-----
Od: mailman-users-admin at python.org
Komu: mailman-users at python.org
Datum: 15. ledna 2000 18:01
P?edm?t: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #447 - 12 msgs
>Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to
> mailman-users at python.org
>
>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> mailman-users-request at python.org
>
>You can reach the person managing the list at
> mailman-users-admin at python.org
>
>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..."
>
>
From admin at safe-guard-cz.cz Sat Jan 15 21:26:58 2000
From: admin at safe-guard-cz.cz (=?iso-8859-1?B?Smn47SBGYXJh?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 21:26:58 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #446 - 13 msgs
Message-ID: <005801bf5f96$dfac3000$d06214d4@pc-fara2>
-----P?vodn? zpr?va-----
Od: mailman-users-admin at python.org
Komu: mailman-users at python.org
Datum: 14. ledna 2000 18:01
P?edm?t: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #446 - 13 msgs
>Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to
> mailman-users at python.org
>
>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> mailman-users-request at python.org
>
>You can reach the person managing the list at
> mailman-users-admin at python.org
>
>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..."
>
>
From hypnose at t-online.de Sun Jan 16 15:04:29 2000
From: hypnose at t-online.de (guenter wessling)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:04:29 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] permissions / security
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000116150429.007b5420@pop.btx.dtag.de>
Hi, all.
I?m new to mailman and the list. Greetings from Germany.
System: linux, 2.0.36, I586. popper/sendmail.
Test-installation (mailman-1.1) went all right after I did the following:
Created group mailman.
Created user mailman, group *users*.
mailman_tar.gz was done chown mailman chgrp mailman.
(If tar.gz is not chown/chgrp, permissions get confused on my linux.
Tried several installs, none went all right unless I changed owner and
group to "mailman".)
./configure --> /home/mailman
make install
Result is that all files in /home/mailman are owner mailman group mailman.
Lists are created with directories and files
--> either owner mail group mailman or owner mailman group mailman.
After using the little pipermail-patch on apatche, mailman seems to run
without any problems.
Yet, as I *allways* get confused with permissions and suid-bits, here my
questions
for the definite install on my server:
1. Should user mailman be group mailman or goup users ?
Any dangers in the s-bits if group users ?
2. How can I create private lists ? Change owner or some other way ?
If you have any other comment on my way-of-install, please feel free to shout.
Security is a *main* issue on my system.
Anyways, this is a nice piece of software. And the web-based conf is terrific.
Guenter
:) have a nice day - alles Gute - :)
Guenter Wessling (hypnose at t-online.de)
- Westfalian Society of Hypnosis -
- Westfaelische Gesellschaft fuer Hypnose -
48165 Muenster, Germany
fax: 0049 (0)2501 27273
http://home.t-online.de/home/hypnose
From speedy at WebBios.com.au Mon Jan 17 00:14:37 2000
From: speedy at WebBios.com.au (Speedy)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:14:37 +1100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] QMAIL with MailMan
Message-ID: <388250DC.2EBEB42E@WebBios.com.au>
Hey All.
Does anyone know any URL's that explain how to configure MailMan with
QMAIL?
I was using mailman with sendmail but i've switched to QMAIL and was
hoping there's some docs around on how to configure it with qmail.
Thanks in advance.
Gonz.
From jylam at hangover.fr Mon Jan 17 17:37:21 2000
From: jylam at hangover.fr (Jean-Yves)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:37:21 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Transfering lists
Message-ID: <38834541.3E625A2@hangover.fr>
Hi, I just installed a new server, and I have to move current lists to a
new path. How can I do that ?
--
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Administrateur systeme / developpeur
Hangover SARL ( http://www.hangover.fr )
From Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk Mon Jan 17 18:44:13 2000
From: Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:44:13 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Confused mailman archiver...
Message-ID:
Since I upgraded to mailman v1.1, mailman has loused up the beginning
of month archives.... looks like yet another timezone handling bug (I'm
on GMT with no DST at present) - I guess my previous hack to handle
mailman's inability to handle our DST fell out on the upgrade...
Anyhow this is whats in my archive directory:-
Week-of-Mon-199912-1
Week-of-Mon-200001-4
ie the -4th of Jan this year and the -1st of december last...
These archives contain the messages sent in the first few hours of 3rd
of jan week and the 6th of dec week.
I think these files are also preventing the nightly_gzip process from
working too :-(
Nigel.
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From stever at seawingsub.com Mon Jan 17 21:55:17 2000
From: stever at seawingsub.com (Steve Ruby)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:55:17 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature Change Suggestion (chunking)
Message-ID: <388381B5.3D59921@seawingsub.com>
Just a note: It seems strange that bulk mail chunking control is setable
by list admins. What is the advantage of this? This seems like a
sysadmin
level control since it ultimately controls list speed vs. resources
required.
Can I suggest that this is a runtime server-end configuration control,
unless somebody can point out the reason that lits admins should be
able to control this. If an admin with 1000+ users decides this needs
to be a large number it could be a bad thing. But why would the list
admin care anyway?
From andreas at mtg.co.at Mon Jan 17 23:39:39 2000
From: andreas at mtg.co.at (Andreas Kostyrka)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:39:39 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature Change Suggestion (chunking)
In-Reply-To: <388381B5.3D59921@seawingsub.com>; from stever@seawingsub.com on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:55:17PM -0700
References: <388381B5.3D59921@seawingsub.com>
Message-ID: <20000117233939.N858@mtg.co.at>
On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 01:55:17PM -0700, Steve Ruby wrote:
> Just a note: It seems strange that bulk mail chunking control is setable
> by list admins. What is the advantage of this? This seems like a
> sysadmin
> level control since it ultimately controls list speed vs. resources
> required.
>
> Can I suggest that this is a runtime server-end configuration control,
> unless somebody can point out the reason that lits admins should be
> able to control this. If an admin with 1000+ users decides this needs
> to be a large number it could be a bad thing. But why would the list
> admin care anyway?
Well, he might care to lower the value. Or sometimes to enlarge it for
a small private list.
But a global min/max configuration value might be a good idea.
Andreas
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From ptomblin at xcski.com Mon Jan 17 23:53:31 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:53:31 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Feature Change Suggestion (chunking)
In-Reply-To: <20000117233939.N858@mtg.co.at>; from Andreas Kostyrka on Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 11:39:39PM +0100
References: <388381B5.3D59921@seawingsub.com> <20000117233939.N858@mtg.co.at>
Message-ID: <20000117175331.B11212@xcski.com>
Quoting Andreas Kostyrka (andreas at mtg.co.at):
> But a global min/max configuration value might be a good idea.
If you're using a half-way decent MTA (like postfix), "1" is the best value
for max and min.
--
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From speedy at WebBios.com.au Tue Jan 18 00:19:22 2000
From: speedy at WebBios.com.au (Speedy)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:19:22 +1100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] MailMan with QMAIL
Message-ID: <3883A37A.CE99E320@WebBios.com.au>
Hi All.
Sorry to write about this again, but i'm trying really hard to avoid
using ezmlm as it's the only mailing list program designed for QMAIL and
I much rather mailman.
If anyone has successfully set-up mailman with QMAIL, could you please
let me know as the README.QMAIL is not too clear on how to do it..
Thanks in advance.
Gonz.
From jer at jorsm.com Tue Jan 18 00:47:01 2000
From: jer at jorsm.com (Jeremy Shaffner)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:47:01 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Custom username
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000114212858.009b9100@joyce.numedeon.com>
Message-ID:
[Forwarding a copy from memory, as Pine hung before sending the Cc:]
You're not following me:
if test -z "$MAILMAN_UID"
then
cat > conftest.py <&6
rm -f conftest.out conftest.py
if test -z "$MAILMAN_UID"
then
{ echo "configure: error:
***** No \"mailman\" user found!
^^^^^^^
***** Your system must have a \"mailman\" user defined (usually
***** in your /etc/passwd file). Please see the INSTALL file
***** file details." 1>&2; exit 1; }
fi
It's not the UID that's the problem, its that the username is expected to
be the literal string 'mailman'.
The configure script fails, never generating the Makefile you keep telling
me to edit.
So a --with-username=NAME is in order.
-Jeremy
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Saille Warner Norton wrote:
> Run configure. Then edit the makefile to change the mailman_uid variable.
> Then compile. It will compile mailman under whatever UID you gave it.
>
> Worked when I did it.
>
> Saille
>
> At 09:28 PM 01/14/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >Except that 'mailman' is hardcoded into lots of places, including
> >the configure[.in] script. It doesn't get far enough to generate a
> >Makefile.
> >
> >-Jeremy
> >
> >On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Saille Warner Norton wrote:
> >
> > > Try editing your "MAILMAN_UID" option in your Makefile.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 04:47 PM 01/14/2000 -0600, Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
> > >
> > > >Why isn't there a configure option to install Mailman as a user other
> > > >than 'mailman'? A --with-username=NAME would be excellent.
> > > >
> > > >I ask because 'mailman' has already in use by one of our users. Probably
> > > >a postal worker. :)
> > > >
> > > >-Jeremy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-======================================================================
> > ===-
> > > >Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
> > > >System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
> > > >jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
> > > >support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
> > > >http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
> > > >-======================================================================
> > ===-
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------------------------------
> > > >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> > > >http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
> > >
> >
> >
> >-=========================================================================-
> >Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services
> >System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
> >jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
> >support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
> >http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
> >-=========================================================================-
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------
> >Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> >http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
>
-=========================================================================-
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System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov't, Business, Individuals Since 1995
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From jerry at scoregroup.com Tue Jan 18 01:05:38 2000
From: jerry at scoregroup.com (Jerry Thomas)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:05:38 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] new_members command
Message-ID:
Is there a way to specify a password when invoking the new_members command?
Thanks,
Jerry
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System Administrator (305)662-5959 xt 211
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From jwing at pliantsystems.com Tue Jan 18 18:22:51 2000
From: jwing at pliantsystems.com (John Wingenbach)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:22:51 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Implicit Destination?
Message-ID: <3884A16B.2EC372BE@pliantsystems.com>
HELP!
I have set up mailman to handle our lists and now I am getting the
admins asking what this implicit destination thing is. Asking why they
have to approve this message.
Can someone enlighten me as to the meaning of this?
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Sr. Systems Administrator
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From ptomblin at xcski.com Tue Jan 18 18:42:35 2000
From: ptomblin at xcski.com (Paul Tomblin)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:42:35 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Implicit Destination?
In-Reply-To: <3884A16B.2EC372BE@pliantsystems.com>; from John Wingenbach on Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 12:22:51PM -0500
References: <3884A16B.2EC372BE@pliantsystems.com>
Message-ID: <20000118124235.D16057@xcski.com>
Quoting John Wingenbach (jwing at pliantsystems.com):
> HELP!
>
> I have set up mailman to handle our lists and now I am getting the
> admins asking what this implicit destination thing is. Asking why they
> have to approve this message.
>
> Can someone enlighten me as to the meaning of this?
It means that the address of the list didn't appear in either the From: or the
Cc: header. Legitimate users of mailing lists rarely if ever Bcc: to the
list, so this "implicit destination" thing takes care of a lot of spam.
--
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"I find your lack of clue...disturbing" - Sysadmin Vader.
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From afanassy at geckonet.net Tue Jan 18 19:45:44 2000
From: afanassy at geckonet.net (Afanassy Thompson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:45:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman.jpg
Message-ID: <14468.45942.251985.211004@gort.geckonet.net>
For some reason I'm finding it difficult to see where to put
mailman.jpg. When I look at the page source it indicates:
So where do I put the images directory? The INSTALL file made
reference to htdocs, but there is no htdocs.
--
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Email: afanassy at geckonet.net http://www.cglug.org
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From jer at jorsm.com Tue Jan 18 19:48:59 2000
From: jer at jorsm.com (Jeremy Shaffner)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:48:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] mailman.jpg
In-Reply-To: <14468.45942.251985.211004@gort.geckonet.net>
Message-ID:
Where /images is relative to the DocumentRoot of your webserver, typically
/some/path/to/htdocs.
-Jeremy
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Afanassy Thompson wrote:
> For some reason I'm finding it difficult to see where to put
> mailman.jpg. When I look at the page source it indicates:
>
>
> So where do I put the images directory? The INSTALL file made
> reference to htdocs, but there is no htdocs.
> --
> Afanassy Thompson President: Cincinnati GNU/Linux Users Group
> Email: afanassy at geckonet.net http://www.cglug.org
> =============================================================================
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>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
-=========================================================================-
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System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana
jer at jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN
support at jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices
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-=========================================================================-
From Simon.Dawson at nottingham.ac.uk Tue Jan 18 20:16:20 2000
From: Simon.Dawson at nottingham.ac.uk (Simon Dawson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:16:20 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Info for subscribed people
Message-ID:
Hi,
Sorry to be a pain but is it possible for subscribers to a Mailman list
to enter a bit of information about themselves when they subscribe (or
afterwards) such that when you ask it to show subscribed people to your list
and you then click on a hyperlink for one of them, it shows you a bit about
them such as name, address, location etc??
I know I may have missed this in a FAQ or something so apologies if I
have - I'm new to this system!
Thanks for any help.
Simon Dawson.
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From rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu Tue Jan 18 22:02:40 2000
From: rniess at netserver3.otr.usm.edu (Rick Niess)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:02:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Info for subscribed people
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Simon Dawson wrote:
> Sorry to be a pain but is it possible for subscribers to a Mailman list
> to enter a bit of information about themselves when they subscribe (or
> afterwards) such that when you ask it to show subscribed people to your list
> and you then click on a hyperlink for one of them, it shows you a bit about
> them such as name, address, location etc??
Mailman does not currently do this. It is, however, already under
consideration for future versions of Mailman.
~ Rick ~
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From c.davis at actrix.gen.nz Tue Jan 18 23:53:00 2000
From: c.davis at actrix.gen.nz (Christine Davis)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:53:00 +1300
Subject: [Mailman-Users] smtp-failure log full of 451
Message-ID: <028501bf6206$c50f66f0$641560cb@solomon.actrix.gen.nz>
My stmp-failure log has
451 timeout waiting for input during message collect
for many (but not all) of the posts that are made to my lists. What do I
have that needs changing to stop these errors being made?
Cheers,
Christine
From pjh at mccc.edu Wed Jan 19 03:05:43 2000
From: pjh at mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:05:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem Occurs After No Problem
Message-ID:
All of a sudden, I cannot create a new mailing list! Here's
the traceback:
Traceback (innermost last):
File "./newlist", line 146, in ?
raise SystemExit(main(sys.argv))
File "./newlist", line 93, in main
newlist.Create(list_name, owner_mail, pw)
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 729, in Create
self.Lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
self.__lock.lock()
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 238, in lock
self.__write() # steal
File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 141, in __write
fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/locks/.lock.saturn.m
ccc.edu.1466'
Any thoughts on what mught be wrong?
Thanks,
Pete
From pjh at mccc.edu Wed Jan 19 03:24:31 2000
From: pjh at mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:24:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem Occurs After No Problem
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Pete Holsberg wrote:
> All of a sudden, I cannot create a new mailing list! Here's
> the traceback:
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "./newlist", line 146, in ?
> raise SystemExit(main(sys.argv))
> File "./newlist", line 93, in main
> newlist.Create(list_name, owner_mail, pw)
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 729, in Create
> self.Lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> self.__lock.lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 238, in lock
> self.__write() # steal
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 141, in __write
> fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/locks/.lock.saturn.m
> ccc.edu.1466'
>
> Any thoughts on what mught be wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Pete
I should add that, in 1999, I successfully created about a
dozen mailing lists.
Pete
From Dan.Mick at West.Sun.COM Wed Jan 19 04:31:39 2000
From: Dan.Mick at West.Sun.COM (Dan Mick)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:31:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Finding disabled users
Message-ID: <200001190331.TAA11347@utopia.West.Sun.COM>
No, not users who have some sort of physical problem: I mean those
who the list (probably) has set the "disabled" option for. I
asked for a hack to find them; no one responded, so I got dangerous
and hacked up withlist to make a command. Here it is. I use
it with a shell script to send them all a message reminding
them they're disabled (since, if they were disabled by having a full
inbox, they may never have seen the message).
#!/usr/bin/python
"""List disabled members of a mailing list
bin/list_disabled_members listname
--help
-h
Print this message and exit
"""
import sys
import getopt
import string
import paths
from Mailman.MailList import MailList
m = None
def usage(msg='', code=1):
print __doc__ % globals()
if msg:
print msg
sys.exit(code)
def main():
global m
try:
opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], 'h',
['help'])
except getopt.error, m:
usage(m)
if len(args) <> 1:
usage('No list name supplied.')
listname = args[0]
lock = 0
for opt, arg in opts:
if opt in ('-h', '--help'):
usage(code=0)
# first try to open mailing list
m = MailList(listname, lock=lock)
for n in m.user_options.keys():
if m.user_options[n] & 1:
print n
exit
main()
From lhough at nbase-xyplex.com Wed Jan 19 03:32:45 2000
From: lhough at nbase-xyplex.com (Linden Hough)
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:32:45 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Implicit Destination?
References: <3884A16B.2EC372BE@pliantsystems.com> <20000118124235.D16057@xcski.com>
Message-ID: <002201bf6225$7af8c920$97beb38c@linden>
I had a similar problem. If I remember correctly I had changed a custom
recipient (Microsoft's lingo for mail alias) for a majordomo list on an
Exchange server to point to a mailman list with a different name.
I had to disable the implicit function until the list name faded away.
Linden Hough
lhough at nbase-xyplex.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Tomblin
To: John Wingenbach
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Implicit Destination?
> Quoting John Wingenbach (jwing at pliantsystems.com):
> > HELP!
> >
> > I have set up mailman to handle our lists and now I am getting the
> > admins asking what this implicit destination thing is. Asking why they
> > have to approve this message.
> >
> > Can someone enlighten me as to the meaning of this?
>
> It means that the address of the list didn't appear in either the From: or
the
> Cc: header. Legitimate users of mailing lists rarely if ever Bcc: to the
> list, so this "implicit destination" thing takes care of a lot of spam.
>
> --
> Paul Tomblin, not speaking for anybody.
> "I find your lack of clue...disturbing" - Sysadmin Vader.
> SETI at Home: http://www.setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Mailman-Users maillist - Mailman-Users at python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>
From admin at safe-guard-cz.cz Wed Jan 19 13:43:19 2000
From: admin at safe-guard-cz.cz (=?iso-8859-1?B?Smn47SBGYXJh?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:43:19 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #449 - 2 msgs
Message-ID: <003401bf627a$c6c20740$c06814d4@pc-fara2>
-----P?vodn? zpr?va-----
Od: mailman-users-admin at python.org
Komu: mailman-users at python.org
Datum: 17. ledna 2000 18:02
P?edm?t: Mailman-Users digest, Vol 1 #449 - 2 msgs
>Send Mailman-Users mailing list submissions to
> mailman-users at python.org
>
>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> mailman-users-request at python.org
>
>You can reach the person managing the list at
> mailman-users-admin at python.org
>
>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Mailman-Users digest..."
>
>
From pjh at mccc.edu Wed Jan 19 17:17:20 2000
From: pjh at mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:17:20 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Problem Occurs After No Problem -- Solved
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Pete Holsberg wrote:
> All of a sudden, I cannot create a new mailing list! Here's
> the traceback:
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
> File "./newlist", line 146, in ?
> raise SystemExit(main(sys.argv))
> File "./newlist", line 93, in main
> newlist.Create(list_name, owner_mail, pw)
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 729, in Create
> self.Lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1373, in Lock
> self.__lock.lock()
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 238, in lock
> self.__write() # steal
> File "/home/mailman/Mailman/LockFile.py", line 141, in __write
> fp = open(self.__tmpfname, 'w')
> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/mailman/locks/.lock.saturn.m
> ccc.edu.1466'
Never mind. If I deleted the .lock.* files, the
problem goes away.
What are those particular files for?
Thanks,
Pete
From iqbal at te.ugm.ac.id Thu Jan 20 09:48:16 2000
From: iqbal at te.ugm.ac.id (Iqbal Santyaswardan)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:48:16 +0700 (JAVT)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] invisible list
Message-ID:
for a mailing list that i have checked as not visible for public (in
listinfo) for some reason is also invisible in the /admin page. is this
"normal"? [if this is a repeat question sorry cause i missed the answer]
A Iqbal Santyaswardan
iqbal95 at student.te.ugm.ac.id
From Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk Thu Jan 20 10:34:59 2000
From: Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:34:59 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Huge lists of stuff for moderation...
Message-ID:
Some clueless idiot attempted to gateway one of my mailing lists into a
newgroup over night. I have some rather large number (of the order of
a thousand) messages waiting to be dealt with all from one envelope
sender.
So far its taken close on 15 minutes for netscape to load the list
admin page, and it hasn't finished yet. I then have the joy of working
my way through several hundred messages and rejecting them all.
This raises a number of issues:-
1. The current moderation method leads to a neat denial of service
attack on the list/list-admin.
2. I need a way of doing mass moderation
3. A means of detecting this sort of flood and blocking messages on
their way in would be good.
4. Breaking the moderation pages up into 20 message chunks might
help a lot (but for this sort of case I would still need (2)),
however for high volume lists where the moderators are unavailable
for a day or so this could be useful.
Nigel.
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From Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk Thu Jan 20 11:14:03 2000
From: Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:14:03 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Appeal for help using "withlist"
Message-ID:
Following on from my previous message (having 1000 messages held for
moderation), I've found that the request page is crashing my web
browser :-(
Please could someone knock me up a recipe for deleting all held
messages from a specific list using the withlist command
Many thanks
Nigel.
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From lindsey at ncsa.uiuc.edu Thu Jan 20 12:17:03 2000
From: lindsey at ncsa.uiuc.edu (Christopher Lindsey)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 05:17:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Appeal for help using "withlist"
In-Reply-To: from "Nigel Metheringham" at Jan 20, 2000 10:14:03 AM
Message-ID: <200001201117.FAA29094@glorfindel.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
> Following on from my previous message (having 1000 messages held for
> moderation), I've found that the request page is crashing my web
> browser :-(
>
> Please could someone knock me up a recipe for deleting all held
> messages from a specific list using the withlist command
http://www.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/1999-November/002550.html
Chris
From Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk Thu Jan 20 12:22:01 2000
From: Nigel.Metheringham at vdata.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:22:01 +0000
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Appeal for help using "withlist"
In-Reply-To: Message from Christopher Lindsey
of "Thu, 20 Jan 2000 05:17:03 CST." <200001201117.FAA29094@glorfindel.ncsa.uiuc.edu>
Message-ID:
Chris,
That fixed my problem - it was a shame I couldn't find that recipe when
searching the archives earlier :-(
Any chance that recipe could be added (with lots of caveats etc) to the
FAQ?
Many thanks
Nigel.
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From gossamer at tertius.net.au Thu Jan 20 12:47:18 2000
From: gossamer at tertius.net.au (Bek Oberin)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:47:18 +1100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Huge lists of stuff for moderation...
In-Reply-To: