From linux at zamirfamily.com  Sat Apr  7 16:28:37 2007
From: linux at zamirfamily.com (Dov Zamir)
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:28:37 +0300
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Hebrew Mailman Support
In-Reply-To: <232F5C14-C9B8-4025-996F-73077C89BA6F@python.org>
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	<232F5C14-C9B8-4025-996F-73077C89BA6F@python.org>
Message-ID: <4617AA95.2090602@zamirfamily.com>

?????Barry Warsaw:

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> It's probably best to open a patch issue on SourceForge and attach 
> your .po file to the patch. Then send a link to that issue here. One 
> of us will pull it into svn from there.
>

I have just uploaded the Hebrew translation files to Sourceforge as 
issue number 1696053. Here is the attached description:

Attached are the Hebrew files for Mailman 2.1.9
I added a parameter to the LC_DESCRIPTION function, and these are the files
that are affected by the addition of 'direction' to the 'LC_DESCRIPTION'
function. They have been changed, and diffs are attached...

./Mailman/Cgi/create.py
./Mailman/Defaults.py.in
./Mailman/Defaults.py
./Mailman/Utils.py
./messages/es/README.es
./messages/ja/README.ja
./messages/ja/doc/Defaults.py.in
./messages/eu/README.eu

Likewise, all translation files are attached.

There is still a problem displaying command line output in the correct
direction. Still looking for a solution...
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From groupsky at gmail.com  Tue Apr 10 16:23:48 2007
From: groupsky at gmail.com (Geno)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:23:48 +0300
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] What's the difference?
Message-ID: <285105b30704100723r6b374b47t635d7949629f6915@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Can you help me understand is there a difference between "account options",
"membership options" and "subscription settings"?

All of them are used on the subscription confirmation page and seems
that they have one and the same meaning.


-- 
TIA,
Geno Roupsky / ???? ??????

From msapiro at value.net  Tue Apr 10 19:24:05 2007
From: msapiro at value.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] What's the difference?
In-Reply-To: <285105b30704100723r6b374b47t635d7949629f6915@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PC17602007041010240507816f0c5072@msapiro>

Geno wrote:
>
>Can you help me understand is there a difference between "account options",
>"membership options" and "subscription settings"?
>
>All of them are used on the subscription confirmation page and seems
>that they have one and the same meaning.


The phrase "Your subscription settings are shown below" refers to the
Real Name, digest and language setting to be applied to your
subscription as you confirm it.

"you will be shown your account options page" refers to the page on
which you can "further customize your membership options". I.e
"account options page" refers to the page; membership options" refers
to the options on that page. Also, "You can change it by visiting your
personal options page." refers to that same page.

Despite the use of some of these terms to refer to a page and some to
refer to the settings on that page, the terms "account options",
"membership options" and "personal options" all refer to the same
thing, namely your option settings for this list.

In general "subscription settings" could refer to the same thing, but
in the context of this page, "subscription settings" refers
specifically to the three things that are set on this page.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan


From groupsky at gmail.com  Wed Apr 11 10:03:16 2007
From: groupsky at gmail.com (Geno)
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:03:16 +0300
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] What's the difference?
In-Reply-To: <PC17602007041010240507816f0c5072@msapiro>
References: <285105b30704100723r6b374b47t635d7949629f6915@mail.gmail.com>
	<PC17602007041010240507816f0c5072@msapiro>
Message-ID: <285105b30704110103u1fbb81aaqe34249e5f2d78889@mail.gmail.com>

2007/4/10, Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>:
> Geno wrote:
> >
> >Can you help me understand is there a difference between "account options",
> >"membership options" and "subscription settings"?
> >
> >All of them are used on the subscription confirmation page and seems
> >that they have one and the same meaning.
>
>
> The phrase "Your subscription settings are shown below" refers to the
> Real Name, digest and language setting to be applied to your
> subscription as you confirm it.
>
> "you will be shown your account options page" refers to the page on
> which you can "further customize your membership options". I.e
> "account options page" refers to the page; membership options" refers
> to the options on that page. Also, "You can change it by visiting your
> personal options page." refers to that same page.
>
> Despite the use of some of these terms to refer to a page and some to
> refer to the settings on that page, the terms "account options",
> "membership options" and "personal options" all refer to the same
> thing, namely your option settings for this list.
>
> In general "subscription settings" could refer to the same thing, but
> in the context of this page, "subscription settings" refers
> specifically to the three things that are set on this page.
>

Thank you very much, this really gave me a clear view of the page. I
tried to translate it as close as possible and in the same time keep
the repeated phrases minimum, as in Bulgarian we don't have so much
different words for one thing :). We'll see what the rest of the
translation team will say about it.

Regards,
-- 
Geno Roupsky / ???? ??????

From linux at zamirfamily.com  Mon Apr 23 17:04:36 2007
From: linux at zamirfamily.com (Dov Zamir)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:04:36 +0300
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Hebrew Mailman Support
In-Reply-To: <4617AA95.2090602@zamirfamily.com>
References: <PC1760200703070715220140d6e8b4a2@msapiro>	<4634.88.155.215.223.1174402444.squirrel@webmail.beitkama.org.il>	<232F5C14-C9B8-4025-996F-73077C89BA6F@python.org>
	<4617AA95.2090602@zamirfamily.com>
Message-ID: <462CCB04.8030701@zamirfamily.com>

Hi all,


I am resending this email, as well as to the other mailing lists, since 
I have received zero feedback since sending the original over two weeks ago.


Should I assume there is no interest in this translation, and just keep 
it for my own sites?


????? Dov Zamir:

> ????? Barry Warsaw:
>
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>> It's probably best to open a patch issue on SourceForge and attach 
>> your .po file to the patch.  Then send a link to that issue here.  
>> One of us will pull it into svn from there.
>>
>
> I have just uploaded the Hebrew translation files to Sourceforge as 
> issue number 1696053. Here is the attached description:
>
> Attached are the Hebrew files for Mailman 2.1.9
> I added a parameter to the LC_DESCRIPTION function, and these are the 
> files
> that are affected by the addition of 'direction' to the 'LC_DESCRIPTION'
> function. They have been changed, and diffs are attached...
>
> ./Mailman/Cgi/create.py
> ./Mailman/Defaults.py.in
> ./Mailman/Defaults.py
> ./Mailman/Utils.py
> ./messages/es/README.es
> ./messages/ja/README.ja
> ./messages/ja/doc/Defaults.py.in
> ./messages/eu/README.eu
>
> Likewise, all translation files are attached.
>
> There is still a problem displaying command line output in the correct
> direction. Still looking for a solution...
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>
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From barry at python.org  Mon Apr 23 18:48:09 2007
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:48:09 -0400
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] [Mailman-Developers]  Hebrew Mailman Support
In-Reply-To: <462CCB04.8030701@zamirfamily.com>
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On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Dov Zamir wrote:

> I am resending this email, as well as to the other mailing lists,  
> since
> I have received zero feedback since sending the original over two  
> weeks ago.
>
>
> Should I assume there is no interest in this translation, and just  
> keep
> it for my own sites?

Dov, I'm sorry.  It's definitely been on my list of things to do, but  
I just haven't had time yet.  We will definitely get it in for a  
Mailman 2.1.10 release.

Thanks,
- -Barry

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From linux at zamirfamily.com  Thu Apr 26 20:42:32 2007
From: linux at zamirfamily.com (Dov Zamir)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:42:32 -0000
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Fw: Hebrew Mailman direct link
In-Reply-To: <00a001c78810$c9ccb980$ff3b1aac@yourc36caa9c21>
References: <00a001c78810$c9ccb980$ff3b1aac@yourc36caa9c21>
Message-ID: <4630F152.2050901@zamirfamily.com>

????? mendy kramer:

> is there problem with the file?
Hi Mendy,

I am not succeeding to upload a good file to sourceforge, don't know why.

I am attaching the file here and hope this one works.
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kristofer Munn <mailto:kmunn at munn.com>
> *To:* 'mendy kramer' <mailto:tverya at gmail.com> ; 'Rabbi Simcha 
> Backman' <mailto:sbackman at askmoses.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:27 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Hebrew Mailman direct link
>
> When I download the file at that location, I am still unable to 
> uncompress it.  It is 207,480 bytes.
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* mendy kramer [mailto:tverya at gmail.com]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:30 AM
>     *To:* Rabbi Simcha Backman
>     *Cc:* Kristofer Munn
>     *Subject:* Hebrew Mailman direct link
>
>     hebrew mailman:
>
>     https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1696053&group_id=103
>     <https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=100103&aid=1696053&group_id=103>
>
>     M
>
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