From barry at python.org  Wed May  4 15:22:41 2005
From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:22:41 -0400
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Last chance to update for 2.1.6 final
Message-ID: <1115212961.10173.345.camel@presto.wooz.org>

I just wanted to let all language champions know that this is your last
chance to update your translations for 2.1.6 final.  With 2.1.6rc3 and
the last couple of post-rc3 changes, I'm feeling pretty good about this
release.  I'd like to see us get it out by the end of this month, if not
a little sooner.

So please finish and checkin, or submit, your updates for 2.1.6 final
within the next week.  If you have some important pending changes that
you need a little more time for, please let Tokio and myself know as
soon as possible.

Thanks!
-Barry

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From alok.kumar at gmail.com  Mon May  9 04:21:05 2005
From: alok.kumar at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KSy4KWL4KSVIOCkleClgeCkruCkvuCksA==?=)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:21:05 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Question about the utf-8 tag
Message-ID: <4ae46ffe050508192135711c25@mail.gmail.com>

Hello list,
I'm in the process of starting to do the translation for Mailman into
Hindi (hi_IN.UTF-8).
I had a few questions first, please redirect me if this is not the
correct place to ask.
1. Is there a priority in which the translations should be done?
2. What percentage or translations costitute a go ahead for inclusion
of a locale in a future release?
3. Is it possible to just translate the public html pages first, and
have only those included first?
4. The Mailman list I own, has the archives at
http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/ - the pages
there have the utf-8 tag, however the pages do not get displayed in
utf-8 the first time. That's not true for the other pages on the same
server, only for the Mailman pages. Other sites that have the utf-8
tag (eg http://devanaagarii.net) also display utf-8 in the first shot.
Why is this behavior so? Is there any other setting involved?

Regards
Alok
-- 
Can't see Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net
Can't write Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net/inscript
???????? ????? http://lists.sarovar.org/mailman/listinfo/devanaagarii-lipi
??????? http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/

From alok.kumar at gmail.com  Mon May  9 04:40:35 2005
From: alok.kumar at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KSy4KWL4KSVIOCkleClgeCkruCkvuCksA==?=)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:40:35 +0800
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Question about the utf-8 tag
In-Reply-To: <4ae46ffe050508192135711c25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ae46ffe050508192135711c25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ae46ffe05050819407aedd17c@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/9/05, ???? ????? <alok.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
> 4. The Mailman list I own, has the archives at
> http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/ - the pages
> there have the utf-8 tag, however the pages do not get displayed in
> utf-8 the first time. That's not true for the other pages on the same
> server, only for the Mailman pages. Other sites that have the utf-8
> tag (eg http://devanaagarii.net) also display utf-8 in the first shot.
> Why is this behavior so? Is there any other setting involved?
> 

I also noticed http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/2005-May/001218.html
- the last message - the tag for encoding is us-ascii, but the unicode
characters get displayed properly because &#<number> format is being
used in the html.
Well that's one way of doing it but not one that I would prefer, since
view-> source becomes human - unreadable.

> --
> Can't see Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net
> Can't write Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net/inscript
> ???????? ????? http://lists.sarovar.org/mailman/listinfo/devanaagarii-lipi
> ??????? http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/
> 


-- 
Can't see Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net
Can't write Hindi? http://devanaagarii.net/inscript
???????? ????? http://lists.sarovar.org/mailman/listinfo/devanaagarii-lipi
??????? http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/

From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp  Mon May  9 04:56:04 2005
From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi)
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:56:04 +0900
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Question about the utf-8 tag
In-Reply-To: <4ae46ffe050508192135711c25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ae46ffe050508192135711c25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <427ED144.90704@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>

Hi,

???? ????? wrote:

> Hello list,
> I'm in the process of starting to do the translation for Mailman into
> Hindi (hi_IN.UTF-8).

First of all, the character set designation in the language code is not 
supported in Mailman. It is specified in Mailman/Defaults.py and can be 
added in mm_cfg.py.  Please read the comments in Defaults.py.in.

> I had a few questions first, please redirect me if this is not the
> correct place to ask.
> 1. Is there a priority in which the translations should be done?
> 2. What percentage or translations costitute a go ahead for inclusion
> of a locale in a future release?

No consensus is done up to now, I believe.

> 3. Is it possible to just translate the public html pages first, and
> have only those included first?

I think it's OK if the users of your language are OK.

> 4. The Mailman list I own, has the archives at
> http://lists.sarovar.org/pipermail/devanaagarii-lipi/ - the pages
> there have the utf-8 tag, however the pages do not get displayed in
> utf-8 the first time. That's not true for the other pages on the same
> server, only for the Mailman pages. Other sites that have the utf-8
> tag (eg http://devanaagarii.net) also display utf-8 in the first shot.
> Why is this behavior so? Is there any other setting involved?

This is configured in httpd.conf (if your server is Apache).  See the 
install document specifically:
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/node10.html

> 
> Regards
> Alok

Have fun !
-- 
Tokio Kikuchi tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp
http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/


From gleydson at cipsga.org.br  Sat May 14 14:40:10 2005
From: gleydson at cipsga.org.br (Gleydson Mazioli da Silva)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:40:10 -0300
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update for Brazilian Portuguese done
Message-ID: <20050514094010.30a57f64.gleydson@cipsga.org.br>

Hi all,

I've been out for a long time from Mailman translation (since 11/2004), but after reading Tokio Kikuchi 
announces about the release 2.1.6, I've feel encouraged to update and make checks for consistency of 
all translation.

I've one doubth, throughth: I've done all chages in Release_2_1-maint CVS revision tag, is this tag still
valid for current? 

Thanks in advanced,

---------------------------
Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
gleydson at debian.org
gleydson at cipsga.org.br

Fortune:

* Se voc? faz o que sempre fez, conseguir? o que sempre conseguiu.

From mwh at sysrq.dk  Sat May  7 12:47:44 2005
From: mwh at sysrq.dk (Martin Willemoes Hansen)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 12:47:44 +0200
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Updated Danish translation of Mailman
Message-ID: <1115462864.6859.15.camel@localhost>

Hello everybody!

I have made a fairly large update of the Danish translation of Mailman,
and I was wondering how I should procede to get it integrated upstream
in Mailman.

I have updated the Danish translation which ship with Mailman-2.1.5, how
can I merge that with the upstream cvs version?

I have translated a lot of open source applications, among them Gnome,
Mozilla Sunbird, various Mono applications, Ubuntu, Fedora Core and
more ...

Best regards
-- 
Martin Willemoes Hansen


From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp  Mon May 16 14:30:21 2005
From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:30:21 +0900
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update for Brazilian Portuguese done
In-Reply-To: <20050514094010.30a57f64.gleydson@cipsga.org.br>
References: <20050514094010.30a57f64.gleydson@cipsga.org.br>
Message-ID: <4288925D.1010901@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>

Gleydson Mazioli da Silva wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been out for a long time from Mailman translation (since 11/2004), but after reading Tokio Kikuchi 
> announces about the release 2.1.6, I've feel encouraged to update and make checks for consistency of 
> all translation.
> 
> I've one doubth, throughth: I've done all chages in Release_2_1-maint CVS revision tag, is this tag still
> valid for current? 

Yes, we are still working on 2_1-maint.  You have the privilege to 
commit your change I believe but if you have any difficulty feel free to 
send me the files in tarball by email.


-- 
Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp
http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/


From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp  Mon May 16 14:39:42 2005
From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:39:42 +0900
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Updated Danish translation of Mailman
In-Reply-To: <1115462864.6859.15.camel@localhost>
References: <1115462864.6859.15.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <4288948E.7080209@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>

Hi,

Martin Willemoes Hansen wrote:

> Hello everybody!
> 
> I have made a fairly large update of the Danish translation of Mailman,
> and I was wondering how I should procede to get it integrated upstream
> in Mailman.
> 
> I have updated the Danish translation which ship with Mailman-2.1.5, how
> can I merge that with the upstream cvs version?
> 

Danish translation was actively updated during the last few months.  You 
can check it by downloading 2.1.6rc4 from SourceForge.  Also, 
translation work is coordinated by Tom G Christensen at 
<mm-da at statsbiblioteket.dk>.  Please contact him first.

> I have translated a lot of open source applications, among them Gnome,
> Mozilla Sunbird, various Mono applications, Ubuntu, Fedora Core and
> more ...
> 
> Best regards

-- 
Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp
http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/


From debian at stroobant.be  Wed May 25 09:01:03 2005
From: debian at stroobant.be (Luc Stroobant)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:01:03 +0200
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Dutch translation update for 2.1.5
Message-ID: <429422AF.1090406@stroobant.be>

Hi,

I've been correcting and updating the Dutch translation. We are working 
on MM 2.1.5 from Debian. I thought it might be usefull to send the files 
to this list too.
They can be downloaded on http://pub.telenet.be/~luc/mailman/

Also sent to Debian as bug 306748
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=306748

Maybe parts of this translation can be used for the new release?

Luc

From mwh at sysrq.dk  Mon May 16 15:28:21 2005
From: mwh at sysrq.dk (Martin Willemoes Hansen)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:28:21 -0000
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Updated Danish translation of Mailman
In-Reply-To: <4288948E.7080209@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>
References: <1115462864.6859.15.camel@localhost>
	<4288948E.7080209@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <1116250100.6912.85.camel@localhost>

man, 16 05 2005 kl. 21:39 +0900, skrev Tokio Kikuchi:

> Danish translation was actively updated during the last few months.  You 
> can check it by downloading 2.1.6rc4 from SourceForge.  Also, 
> translation work is coordinated by Tom G Christensen at 
> <mm-da at statsbiblioteket.dk>.  Please contact him first.

Yes, I have made contact with Tom and will report to him and submit my
changes to him.

Best regards
-- 
Martin Willemoes Hansen


From gleydson at cipsga.org.br  Tue May 17 22:06:58 2005
From: gleydson at cipsga.org.br (Gleydson Mazioli da Silva)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 20:06:58 -0000
Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update for Brazilian Portuguese done
In-Reply-To: <4288925D.1010901@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>
References: <20050514094010.30a57f64.gleydson@cipsga.org.br>
	<4288925D.1010901@is.kochi-u.ac.jp>
Message-ID: <20050517170646.20b675af.gleydson@cipsga.org.br>

Hi,

Tokio Kikuchi <tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp> escreveu em Mon, 16 May 2005 21:30:21 +0900:

> Yes, we are still working on 2_1-maint.  You have the privilege to 
> commit your change I believe but if you have any difficulty feel free to 
> send me the files in tarball by email.

They are already commited on the 2_1-maint branch :-)
thanks!

---------------------------
Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
gleydson at debian.org
gleydson at cipsga.org.br