From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp Wed Dec 1 07:15:24 2004 From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi) Date: Wed Dec 1 07:15:28 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update Message-ID: <41AD617C.3020305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Hi, i18ners. We are going to release a new micro-revision of mailman 2.1 series by the end of this year (month ... December). I wish you the translators can spare a little time to update your language mailman.po files. The mailman.pot template file was already generated in the mid-November and merged into the each language po files. You can download it with the latest code from CVS (Release_2_1-maint branch). Or, if you are uneasy downloading from CVS, I've made a tar ball for this version at: http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6a.tgz You can update mailman.po directly on CVS if you have the privilege, upload it in the SF patch tracker area, or send me (tkikuchi@is.kochi-u.ac.jp) by email at your convenience. Cheers, -- Tokio Kikuchi tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ From pioppo at ferrara.linux.it Wed Dec 1 22:14:38 2004 From: pioppo at ferrara.linux.it (Simone Piunno) Date: Wed Dec 1 22:16:01 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update In-Reply-To: <41AD617C.3020305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> References: <41AD617C.3020305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: <200412012214.39123.pioppo@ferrara.linux.it> Hi Tokio, one of new messages is: "Your confirmation is required to %(verb)s the %(listname)s mailing list" In MailList.py, where verb can be join or leave. Unfortunately, in italian this is very hard to translate correctly, because it should be: join: ? richiesta la tua conferma per ISCRIVERTI ALLA lista %(listname)s leave: ? richiesta la tua conferma per LASCIARE LA lista %(listname)s Not just the verb, what follows changes too. I think the GetConfirmSubject method should be split over two methods: GetConfirmJoinSubject and GetConfirmLeaveSubject, so they can have the complete subject template without need of the verb parameter. See attached patch. -- http://thisurlenablesemailtogetthroughoverzealousspamfilters.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: leavejoin.diff Type: text/x-diff Size: 2462 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/attachments/20041201/6dbf4302/leavejoin.bin From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp Thu Dec 2 02:20:29 2004 From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi) Date: Thu Dec 2 02:20:47 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Translation update In-Reply-To: <200412012214.39123.pioppo@ferrara.linux.it> References: <41AD617C.3020305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> <200412012214.39123.pioppo@ferrara.linux.it> Message-ID: <41AE6DDD.8000604@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Hi Simone, Simone Piunno wrote: > > "Your confirmation is required to %(verb)s the %(listname)s mailing list" > > In MailList.py, where verb can be join or leave. > Unfortunately, in italian this is very hard to translate correctly, because it > should be: > > join: ? richiesta la tua conferma per ISCRIVERTI ALLA lista %(listname)s > leave: ? richiesta la tua conferma per LASCIARE LA lista %(listname)s > > Not just the verb, what follows changes too. Well, I feared that, too. Thanks for your patch but while I was integrating your patch, I also realized the subject should be MIME encoded. It will take my weekend spare time to fix this because I have three classes on Friday and today. -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ From sawickib at iem.pw.edu.pl Fri Dec 3 16:40:26 2004 From: sawickib at iem.pw.edu.pl (Bartosz Sawicki) Date: Fri Dec 3 16:40:31 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] encoding problem in cron/mailpasswds Message-ID: <41B088EA.4030609@iem.pw.edu.pl> Hi there, Before new Mailman subversion will be released I'd like to clarify one think inside cron/mailpasswds script. Which in my opinion is buggy for all non unicode translations. Polish translation works perfect accept one think - monthy remainder is sended with wrong encoding. Do other of you notice this problem? I think source of problem is in file cron/mailpasswds, lines 208-209: # Coerce everything to Unicode text = tounicode(text, enc) table = [tounicode(_t, enc) for _t in table] Which is done for every language, and every encoding. After than reminder text is given to Message.UserNotification class, where additional encoding magic is done. I many other places where Message.UserNotification is used no extra encoding translations is made before(e.g. Mailman/Deliverer.py). So the question is: What for we "Coerce everything to Unicode"? If I comment out this two lines in cron/mailpasswds, encoding problem disappers - polish reminders are emailed with proper iso-8859 & QP. So if there is not certain reason to "coerce everything", I propose to delete this two lines. cheers BArtek From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 4 02:48:07 2004 From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi) Date: Sat Dec 4 02:48:23 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] encoding problem in cron/mailpasswds In-Reply-To: <41B088EA.4030609@iem.pw.edu.pl> References: <41B088EA.4030609@iem.pw.edu.pl> Message-ID: <41B11757.3070305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Bartosz Sawicki wrote: > Hi there, > > Before new Mailman subversion will be released I'd like to clarify one > think inside cron/mailpasswds script. Which in my opinion is buggy for > all non unicode translations. > Polish translation works perfect accept one think - monthy remainder is > sended with wrong encoding. Do other of you notice this problem? Yes, there was a bug report in SF and I believe I fixed it. See http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/cron/mailpasswds > What for we "Coerce everything to Unicode"? > > If I comment out this two lines in cron/mailpasswds, encoding problem > disappers - polish reminders are emailed with proper iso-8859 & QP. > So if there is not certain reason to "coerce everything", I propose to > delete this two lines. There may be chance that a user input his password in a different language so passwords should be once transformed unicode. Last code in 2.1.5 failed to reverse encode into list language. May be we should restrict passwords within ascii 7bit characters. ([\x21-\x7f]) Thanks anyway for your comment. I have just fixed a last (hopefully) small bug to 'replace' alien charcters. Hope you can check out the latest CVS and try if the bug went away. Cheers, -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ From sawickib at iem.pw.edu.pl Mon Dec 6 17:50:10 2004 From: sawickib at iem.pw.edu.pl (Bartosz Sawicki) Date: Mon Dec 6 17:50:20 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] encoding problem in cron/mailpasswds In-Reply-To: <41B11757.3070305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> References: <41B088EA.4030609@iem.pw.edu.pl> <41B11757.3070305@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: <41B48DC2.2060206@iem.pw.edu.pl> Tokio Kikuchi wrote: > Yes, there was a bug report in SF and I believe I fixed it. See > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/cron/mailpasswds Thank you for explanation. Thats nice to hear that bug is already closed. :) > There may be chance that a user input his password in a different > language so passwords should be once transformed unicode. Last code in > 2.1.5 failed to reverse encode into list language. May be we should > restrict passwords within ascii 7bit characters. ([\x21-\x7f]) I think that restriction to ASCII charset is good idea. In fact in Poland people are used to such limitation. Using many information systems we can read "password can _not_ contain polish letters". Of course unicode is the future, but at this moment I wouldn't used password with strange characters. cheers BArtek From tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp Sat Dec 11 02:35:01 2004 From: tkikuchi at is.kochi-u.ac.jp (Tokio Kikuchi) Date: Sat Dec 11 02:35:08 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] mailman-2.1.6a2 is out Message-ID: <41BA4EC5.7070801@is.kochi-u.ac.jp> Hi Developers and I18Ners, I've bumped version number of mailman to 2.1.6a2 (a1 was not announced) and made a tarball at my mailman-japanese site. Please get it at: http://mm.tkikuchi.net/mailman-2.1.6a2.tgz Mailman 2.1.6 should be compatible with Python 2.4 and including some nice new features such as numbering in subject prefix and filtering attachments by filename extensions. Please download and test it and help us fixing bugs. Cheers, -- Tokio Kikuchi, tkikuchi@ is.kochi-u.ac.jp http://weather.is.kochi-u.ac.jp/ From sadeghi at free.fr Fri Dec 3 22:06:18 2004 From: sadeghi at free.fr (Sadeghi) Date: Wed Dec 15 14:04:28 2004 Subject: [Mailman-i18n] Question Message-ID: <000401c4d98c$f0267ec0$42e04252@Compaq> I am learning and began to use Mailman. I would like to use it in Persian (Farsi). Is it possible? If Mailman does not exist in farsi, I can still use it in english but the messages written in Farsi? In fact, what do you mean by "Language" in Mailmain? Thanks a lot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-i18n/attachments/20041203/de727d43/attachment.html