[Mailman-Developers] Migrating Postorius and Hyperkitty to Python 3

Terri Oda terri at toybox.ca
Sun Oct 8 17:39:27 EDT 2017


What's the state for Centos? I think it was the last likely distro we cared about with old python needs, but I'm not sure core supports it at all any more.


On October 1, 2017 2:12:46 PM PDT, Abhilash Raj <maxking at asynchronous.in> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Mailman uses Django web framework for the web based frontends,
>Postorius
>- The Official UI, and Hyperkitty - The official Archiver. They are
>both
>Django "apps" which means that they can be plugged into any other
>existing Django "project" (aka Django "installation") to work alongside
>other apps that people might be running.
>
>Currently, both the Django apps we have are Python 2 only, we have
>talked about moving to Python 3 but we decided we want it to be
>bilingual (support both 2 & 3). The reason we decided that was because
>if people would want to embed Postorius & Hyperkitty in their
>installations, they need to be able to run it under whatever python
>versions they are using.
>
>I want to revisit this assumption for being bilingual. Currently, there
>is no supported version of Django which doesn't support Python 3.
>Starting from v2.0, set to release in December 2017, Django is going to
>drop Python2 support. Now, that doesn't mean no one can run Django
>under
>Python2, 1.11 (LTS version) supports Python2 and will be supported
>probably till Python 2 is supported (April 2020 according to [1]).
>
>I believe that our (limited) development efforts would be best utilized
>if we just drop the support for Python 2 in Postorius & Hyperkitty
>instead of trying to be bilingual. Any day one of our dependencies may
>decide to do the same, and we would have to then use Python 3 anyway.
>Also, dropping Python 2 support doesn't seem like a lot of pain for
>anyone, you just need another instance of Django running, which is not
>*that* hard using uwsgi (in Emperor mode). I believe most of our
>dependencies should support Python 3, or should have a good enough
>replacement if it doesn't.
>
>
>Thoughts?
>
>[1]: https://www.djangoproject.com/download/
>
>-- 
>  Abhilash Raj
>  maxking at asynchronous.in
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