[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 production setup testbed

[Terri Oda]

On 2015-11-24 7:32 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> My confusion relates to the virtual environment that I create.  I am
> running from the dedicated MM3 user I created, and I am looking to
> expand the bundler from the user’s home directory in /home (for
> example).  When I create the virtual environment, the files are all
> held in this directory, and I really want the MM3 to be installed
> system wide as this will be the only program running on this machine.
> Do I even need to create a virtual environment at all?  Are there any
> other guides relating to setting up MM3 for a purely production
> environment with minimal dependencies?

I hit this same issue, as it were.  In my case, I knew exactly what was 
going on and why but, the problem arose when I needed other people to be 
able to do mailman-related stuff on the machine and it feels *really* 
weird to people to go into my home directory to restart mailman.

I think we should probably update the docs to suggest that you start by 
making a directory where you'd like mailman installed, rather than the 
way the guide is currently written where it sometimes surprises people 
that they have a live mailman install in their home directory (as 
opposed to the workflow people may be expecting which more like "I get a 
staged copy of my source in my home directory and then I type make 
install and it puts the executables and config files in expected places")

What would be a good default directory to have in the docs if I want to 
update them to suggest you start somewhere other than your home directory?

/opt/mailman

is probably the most appropriate one according to the LSB.

Does anyone want to make another suggestion before I update the docs to 
suggest that as a logical place to put your mailman stuff?  (I'll leave 
a note saying that if you're just trying stuff out then your home 
directory is fine, too.)

  Terri