From brad at shub-internet.org  Sun Jan 13 00:00:05 2008
From: brad at shub-internet.org (Brad Knowles)
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:00:05 -0600
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] Email classification
In-Reply-To: <4789029C.9070502@neuwald.biz>
References: <4789029C.9070502@neuwald.biz>
Message-ID: <p06240802c3aef6913b79@[192.168.1.101]>

On 1/12/08, Felipe Neuwald wrote:

>  I'm thinking, if some user send one email to the mail list, then the
>  mail server reply one email to the user with one web page addres, and
>  then, the user classify the email (like office, home, study, etc) and
>  before the classification, the email is sent to the mail list. There is
>  some way of email classification like these? Or other ways of email
>  classification?

Mailman does not provide any tools to do this sort of thing.

You could have users put the classification in the subject line, or 
you could go through the process outlined in the Mailman FAQ Wizard 
whereby a moderator can modify a message before it is posted to the 
list, but as I recall that's a pretty lengthy and painful process.

I'm not aware of any other options in this case.

-- 
Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>

From j.e.vanbaal at uvt.nl  Fri Jan 18 11:49:47 2008
From: j.e.vanbaal at uvt.nl (Joost van Baal)
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:49:47 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman,
	OpenPGP and S/MIME (was: Re: [Ssls-dev] ssls for mailman 2.1.9)
In-Reply-To: <20080115233940.GA13244@nin.lan.rwsr-xr-x.de>
References: <20080115233940.GA13244@nin.lan.rwsr-xr-x.de>
Message-ID: <20080118104947.GK26615@banach.uvt.nl>

Hi,

Thanks to Mike Gerber, the patch making Mailman OpenPGP and S/MIME-aware
(which once was the SURFnet Secure List Server project) is updated to
Mailman 2.1.9.

Beware! This code is not mature, and very likely not yet suitable for
production use. Inspect the code to find out if it's good enough for
you.

Specs: A post will be distributed only if the PGP (or S/MIME) signature
on the post is from one of the list members.  For sending encrypted
email, a list member encrypts to the public key of the list. The post
will be decrypted and re-encrypted to the public keys of all list
members.  Finally, each subscriber can upload her PGP and S/MIME public
key using the webinterface.

The Mailman SSLS project's home is at
http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-ssls/. Sources are available from
http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/pub/mailman/.


On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 12:39:40AM +0100, Mike Gerber wrote:
> 
> 1. The patch for 2.1.7 applies fine on 2.1.9. Here's the patch, just a
>    little repacked for 2.1.9:
<snip>
> 
> 2. I patched the current Mailman Debian package for etch, you can find it here
>    (Source and Binary package for i386/etch):
> 
<snip>
>    the package works fine for me.
<snip>
> So, that's it. Joost, would you put those files up on the ssls page?

Done, see http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/pub/mailman/.

I've added some quotes too.

Thanks a lot for your work! I'm _very_ happy the work is being
continued!

Bye,

Joost

-- 
Joost van Baal                            http://abramowitz.uvt.nl/
                                                 Tilburg University
mailto:joostvb.uvt.nl                               The Netherlands
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From stephen at xemacs.org  Wed Jan 30 04:57:31 2008
From: stephen at xemacs.org (Stephen J. Turnbull)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:57:31 +0900
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] [Mailman-Users] Efficient handling of
	cross-posting
In-Reply-To: <200801291930.50355.mi+mailman@aldan.algebra.com>
References: <PC1760200801281416460062c7ad81ac@msapiro>
	<200801291217.23886.mi+mailman@aldan.algebra.com>
	<18335.42905.497051.867725@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<200801291930.50355.mi+mailman@aldan.algebra.com>
Message-ID: <87tzkwartg.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

Moving to Mailman-Developers:

 > > It should go without saying that it's very interesting; this is a FAQ [...]

 > Woo-hoo. That's encouraging. Well, if the only thing, that prevented the 
 > feature from appearing by now, is lack of development resources, then I'll 
 > get right on it. Thanks,

Well, it's not a lack of development resources alone.  It's one of
those "in principle" things, although not a religious principle (eg,
you won't get the "this is evil" response from anybody the way you
would with advocating Reply-To munging).

The problem, in brief, is that the design of Mailman 1 and Mailman 2
is distribution-centric.  They manage rosters of subscribers on behalf
of a list.  What you say you want is a program that manages groups of
lists on behalf of a user.  But this isn't quite good enough.  What
you really want is ... Usenet news, except on a push basis.

Doing this efficiently and maintainably is going to require a global
roster of users, which is something that Mailman 3 will provide.
There are some simple, not-too-unclean hacks that can be done, but I
think Mark Sapiro's "sister lists" feature is about the best that can
be done.