[Mailman-Developers] Incoming Queue format

[Brad Knowles]

At 3:37 PM -0700 9/29/06, Carson Gaspar wrote:

>  Brad, if your _incoming_ queue is so big that you have to worry, your
>  servers are woefully underspec'd.

That may or may not be true, but that doesn't make the problem 
magically go away.

>                                                           If you can
>provide a detailed use case where it matters for the _incoming_ queue,
>please do so.

Basically, it's any site that has one or more lists that have 
relatively high levels of incoming traffic, and which run into 
synchronous meta-data bottleneck issues.  This could be a lower-end 
machine with a filesystem that does not perform as well as could be, 
and a more moderately sized list.  Or, this could be a site where 
they've already thrown the biggest/best configured machine at the 
problem that they can, and yet they're still seeing problems.

On the high end, from the reports we got after Apple upgraded the 
system for lists.apple.com, I don't think they're too likely to have 
these kinds of problems.  But the FreeBSD folks might already be 
there, and I imagine that the SourceForge people are definitely there.

But I'm sure there are more relatively smaller lists running on 
relatively smaller/less well configured hardware, and which are 
running into the same kinds of problems.


All this aside, it's clear that I'm not going to convince anyone here 
of anything, so I'm just going to unsubscribe from the list and I'll 
ask everyone to make sure that they do not include me on any further 
messages on this subject.

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