[Mailman-Developers] Turning off dynamic JavaScript

[David Andrews]

>
>I believe that the W3C standards require that Javascript and other components fail gracefully, so the point could be made, for things link Lynx and Links that a graceful degrade would also take care of us screen reader users.  Anything specific you write for us, while appreciated, is also something that may have to be kept up separately, and thus may not be.
>
>Dave
>
>At 01:06 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
>>Brad Knowles wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking only for myself, this is not the kind of approach I'd like to see
>>> used.  I'd prefer to see the web application auto-detect that JavaScript
>>> is not available, and therefore to automatically present the appropriate
>>> non-JavaScript interface. 
>>
>>I will do this for browsers not employing JavaScript. Screen readers 
>>employ JavaScript and provide no indication what they do/do not provide 
>>feedback to the user for.
>>
>>> Likewise, it should auto-detect that there is a
>>> screen reader being used, and present the appropriate screen reader
>>> compatible interface.
>>
>>This is an admirable goal. One "screen reader" in semi-common use is IE 
>>6 via Jaws; another one is Safari with OS X reading turned on.
>>
>>They present to me no handle, user-agent or otherwise, indicating 
>>they're being spoken rather than seen.
>>
>>> Of course, the manual options should always be there, but if we're forcing
>>> the user to manually select a different page in order to get away from the
>>> JavaScript stuff, then I think we're doing something wrong.
>>
>>I agree that it is an Ugly Hack; In this case I think the screen readers 
>>are misbehaved, but there's not a lot I can do about that.
>>
>>~ethan fremen
>>
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