[Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?

[Martin at Cleaver.org]

Can we get a mailing list set up to address and escalate mailman <-> cpanel
issues?

I am particularly concerned about
http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928 but from the
mailman-users at python.org list there are definitely a whole host of issues
that the mailman-developers would address if we had the correct
communication in place.

Thanks,
   Martin

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=-----Original Message-----
=From: 
=mailman-users-bounces+martin.cleaver=bcs.org.uk at python.org 
=[mailto:mailman-users-bounces+martin.cleaver=bcs.org.uk at python.
=org] On Behalf Of Jon Carnes
=Sent: Monday, 22 September 2003 8:34 PM
=To: Barry Warsaw
=Cc: mailman-developers at python.org; mailman-users at python.org; 
=Chuq Von Rospach
=Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?
=
=
=On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 19:09, Barry Warsaw wrote:
=> On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 18:49, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
=> 
=> > > Does anybody know anything about this?
=> > 
=> > I've seen people asking about it on ListOwners. I've kept my head 
=> > down
=> > because I didn't know what you'd said/done, but it sort of 
=sounds like 
=> > it's either the cPanel folks trying to blame Mailman for its own 
=> > problems, or an ISP trying to blame cPanel and/or mailman. 
=I know we've 
=> > never explicitly supported cPanel in the mailman projects. 
=it seems 
=> > like cPanel is the crew to bring this up with, not us.
=> 
=> Ah, thanks for the info Chuq.  I think you've got the right take on 
=> things, except that I'd add this: if the cPanel developers have 
=> specific issues with Mailman that are causing them problems, I'd be 
=> happy to hear about them, and if it makes sense, to address them.  I 
=> also wouldn't turn down their money <wink>.
=> 
=> Other than that, you're right, we really don't have any relationship 
=> with them, which is different than saying we're actively not 
=> supporting it anymore (not that we did in the first place :).
=> 
=> -Barry
=> 
=
=We've seen a lot of CPanel folks coming here for help.  I 
=basically delete those, since we can never help them.  But a 
=few times folks on the list have expressed that we can't help 
=them; that could easily be interpreted as "Mailman won't 
=support CPanel installs".
=
=One frustrating item that is expressed periodically is that 
=CPanel won't open their source up.  It would be nice if they 
=would provide some sort of API or if they would release the 
=source of their "Mailman widget" that controls Mailman - then 
=we *could* help them.
=
=I'm very surprised that no one from CPanel has approached 
=Barry or the developers-list yet.  There is a lot broken with 
=CPanel that could be made much better with some shared ideas.
=
=Jon Carnes 
=
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