Fwd: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman & CPanel?

[Martin at Cleaver.org]

Hi Barry,

   It seems this is the key - you need to open a cpanel account
and cpanel needs to treat the Mailman development team as a
"licensed cPanel customer". This will enable you to file support
requests and see the code that cpanel uses to mould mailman to
fit.

I appreciate the need to register at the cpanel site. It keeps
the signal to noise ratio higher - and approval was quite rapid
for me.

Note that I cannot request these scripts as I am an end user not
a cpanel registeree. Even if I could, the scripts would not mean
much to me.

I just want my archives to work!!!

Best regards and thanks to all,
   Martin.

 --- "J. Nick Koston" <nick at cpanel.net> wrote: > Subject: RE:
[Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users] Mailman &
> CPanel?
> From: "J. Nick Koston" <nick at cpanel.net>
> To: Martin at Cleaver.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:54:57 -0500
> 
> You can get a copy of any patches we have applied by supporting
> a ticket
> at http://support.cpanel.net
> 
> On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 22:06, Martin at Cleaver.org wrote:
> > Nick,
> >    Has Cpanel documented the changes they have made to
> Mailman? If not, can
> > Cpanel supply the Mailman dev team with the scripts they use
> to mould it to
> > fit?
> > Cheers,
> >    Martin.
> > --
> > Martin at Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759 
> > Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant to
> Rotman
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > =-----Original Message-----
> > =From: Bob Puff at NLE [mailto:bob at nleaudio.com]
> > =Sent: Friday, 14 November 2003 8:20 PM
> > =To: Martin at Cleaver.org; 'Barry Warsaw'
> > =Cc: 'J. Nick Koston'; mailman-developers at python.org;
> serafin at eryxma.com
> > =Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users]
> Mailman & CPanel?
> > =
> > =
> > =The problem with cpanel is that it messes with the program
> configs in order
> > =to
> > =mould things into its proprietary setup.  Once that way, its
> hard to mess
> > =with
> > =things, because they are not as they would normally be set
> up in a standard
> > =install.  So in this example, the Mailman install is NOT the
> same as you
> > =would
> > =find on a webhost without cpanel.
> > =
> > =Its ok for people who just want to set up a server and let
> their users
> > =modify
> > =basic stuff, but its not for those who want to install
> custom software, or
> > =tweak stuff.  I tried it on a box a while ago, and promptly
> reformatted
> > =after
> > =trying to figure out where they moved stuff, etc...
> > =
> > =Bob
> > =
> > =
> > =---------- Original Message -----------
> > =From: <Martin at Cleaver.org>
> > =To: "'Barry Warsaw'" <barry at python.org>
> > =Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 23:55:32 -0500
> > =Subject: RE: [Mailman-Developers] RE: [Mailman-Users]
> Mailman & CPanel?
> > =
> > => Hi Barry
> > =>
> > => Ok, many thanks. Please see below for the full message.
> You'll note
> > => that I'd lost all the text from the message.
> > =>
> > => I'll send you the password for the list in a separate
> message. Feel
> > => free to look or change the settings, and to create a new
> list for
> > => testing. All my lists have this problem so I am sure it is
> nothing
> > => that I have done wrong.
> > =>
> > => I'm using Outlook XP 2002 SP-2, but my users (including
> Sean who
> > => sent that last message) may be using something different.
> > =>
> > => Thanks and regards,
> > =>    Martin.
> > =>
> > =>
> > => On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 13:23, Martin at Cleaver.org wrote:
> > =>
> > => > Nick / Barry
> > =>
> > => > Can you please at least acknowledge whether this is a
> known problem?
> > =>
> > => > Many Thanks,
> > =>
> > => > Martin.
> > =>
> > => > =My main complaint is that the archives don't work with
> HTML postings
> > =>
> > => > =rendering the mailing list practically useless. =
> > =>
> > => > =Here's a typical mailing: 
> <http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social>
> > => http://cp1.myhostdns.org/pipermail/social-announce-
> > => ft2004_mbssrc.com/2003-No vember/date.html
> > =>
> > => > =
> > =>
> > => > =Here's my postings to the cpanel site:
> > =>
> > => > = * 
> <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928>
> > => http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15928
> > =>
> > => > =
> > =>
> > => > =And I am not alone:
> > =>
> > => > = * 
> <http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13383>
> > => http://forums.cpanel.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13383
> > =>
> > => I'm sorry I can't get into the cpanel forums.
> > =>
> > => But I did look at that Pipermail message (you need to
> follow the
> > => link to the one page that's in that date index). If I
> follow the
> > => link to the GIF image, it shows up just fine.
> > =>
> > => Please note that the rendering of messages such as
> > => multipart/alternative are depending on list settings that
> I can't
> > => see, such as which content types to pass or scrub. I also
> haven't
> > => seen the original message so I don't know how what was
> posted
> > => matches against the filter_mime_types and pass_mime_types
> settings
> > => in the Content Filter section. There are also some
> site-wide
> > => settings which describe how to archive things like HTML
> messages,
> > =>  although I don't think that's what's happening here (it
> looks more
> > => like some unintended content-types are getting scrubbed
> out).
> > =>
> > => I can't see any bugs, but your list may not be configured
> the way
> > => you want it for the types of messages being posted to it.
> > =>
> > => -Barry
> > =>
> > => --
> > =>
> > => Martin at Cleaver.org - +1 416 832 7759
> > => Melbourne Business School FT 2004 MBA Exchange Participant
> to Rotman
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => -----Original Message-----
> > => From: Sean Xi Yu WEN [mailto:x.wen at student.mbs.edu]
> > => Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2003 12:22 AM
> > => To: Social-announce-ft2004 at mbssrc.com
> > => Cc: Martin at Cleaver.org; Quan Zhang
> > => Subject: [Social-announce-ft2004] East Meets West Lunch
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => Welcome to the launch of the East Meets West Lunch Club!!
> Our launch
> > => involves a delightful eastern lunch in the city this
> coming Monday,
> > =>  10 November. Our aim is to meet monthly for lunch
> alternating
> > => between eastern and western themed restaurants.
> > =>
> > => Please join us to explore the city and bridge the cultural
> gap.
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => Monday's menu is set at $13 per person;
> > =>
> > => including Chicken with Special Sauce, Sweet and Sour Pork
> and Beef with
> > => Vegetables, all served with vegetable fried rice.
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => Save December 5 for our next meeting; location to be
> announced.
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => Time: 1:30 p.m.
> > =>
> > => Date: 10 November 2003
> > =>
> > => Place: Num Fong Chinese Restaurant
> > =>
> > => 271 Swanston Street, CBD
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => - Quan (Calvin) Zhang, Xi Yu (Sean) Wen,
> > =>
> > => Mindy Frink and Lisa Stevenson (founding members)
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => RSVP to  x.xx <mailto:m.frink at student.mbs.edu>
> @student.mbs.edu if
> > => you plan to join.
> > =>
> > => See you there!
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > =>
> > => Sean Xi Yu WEN
> > =>
> > => MBA - Class of 2004
> > =>
> > => Melbourne Business School
> > =------- End of Original Message -------
> > 
> > 
> > 
>  

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Martin at Cleaver.org (please don't reply to @yahoo)

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