I just fetched a fresh CVS tree, configured, and installed it. I end up with a 0-length bin/qrunner file. I have no idea why this is happening. I ended up copying the one from the CVS tree over and editing the #! at the top. Seems to work. Mac OS X Server 10.1.5. - Stoney -- Stonewall Ballard stoney@sb.org http://www.sb.org/stoney/