[Mailman-Developers] RE: Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 164, Issue 48

Keith Steward ksteward at keithsteward.com
Sun Dec 29 20:56:43 EST 2002



 
Keith 

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Today's Topics:

   1. 
       Re: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available
       for sendmail programs" issue (Danny Terweij)
   2. email package bug (Jon Parise)
   3. Re: email package bug (Jon Parise)
   4. 
       can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail
programs"
       issue (Keith Steward)
   5. 
       FW: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available
       for sendmail programs" issue (Keith Steward)
   6. Re: email package bug (Barry A. Warsaw)
   7. 
       RE: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available
       for sendmail programs" issue (Keith Steward)
   8. Re: email package bug (Jon Parise)


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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:12:30 +0100
From: "Danny Terweij" <danny at terweij.nl>
To: "Keith Steward" <ksteward at keithsteward.com>,
<mailman-users at python.org>,
   <mailman-developers at python.org>
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] 
 Re: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available  for
sendmail programs" issue
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|From: Keith Steward

|Arghhhh!!!

|After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0
final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: |mailman not
available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous
things), i'm just about ready to give up.


|The /etc/aliases includes:
|## test1 mailing list
|test1:              "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1"
|test1-admin:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1"
|test1-bounces:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1"
|test1-confirm:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1"
|test1-join:         "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1"
|test1-leave:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1"
|test1-owner:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1"
|test1-request:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1"
|test1-subscribe:    "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1"
|test1-unsubscribe:  "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1"

Keith, this above is not good!!!!
Must be like :

## poema-test mailing list mailman2.1
poema-test:              "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
poema-test"
poema-test-admin:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
poema-test"
poema-test-bounces:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
poema-test"
poema-test-confirm:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
poema-test"
poema-test-join:         "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
poema-test"
poema-test-leave:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
poema-test"
poema-test-owner:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
poema-test"
poema-test-request:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
poema-test"
poema-test-subscribe:    "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
poema-test"
poema-test-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
poema-test"


Danny.






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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:50:47 -0500
From: Jon Parise <jon at horde.org>
To: mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug
Message-ID: <20021229225047.GA10776 at csh.rit.edu>
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One of my list members forwarded me the attached traceback.  I'm don't
have much clue with regard to the email package, though, so I'm passing
it along to the group.

The fact that the user who sent me the report is using the French locale
may be of note.

The attached traceback was generated when the user attempted to
unsubscribe from a mailing list to which they belonged.

-- 
Jon Parise (jon at horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/)

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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:55:45 -0500
From: Jon Parise <jon at horde.org>
To: mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug
Message-ID: <20021229225545.GB10776 at csh.rit.edu>
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 05:50:47PM -0500, Jon Parise wrote:

> The attached traceback was generated when the user attempted to 
> unsubscribe from a mailing list to which they belonged.
 
It appears the attachment was stripped.  Here's an inlined plain text
version:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver", line 87, in run_main
    main()
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 118, in main
    unsubscription_confirm(mlist, doc, cookie)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py", line 392, in
unsubscription_confirm
    op, addr = mlist.ProcessConfirmation(cookie)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1090, in
ProcessConfirmation
    self.ApprovedDeleteMember(addr, whence=whence)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 924, in
ApprovedDeleteMember
    self.SendUnsubscribeAck(name)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Deliverer.py", line 78, in
SendUnsubscribeAck
    Utils.wrap(self.goodbye_msg), self.getMemberLanguage(addr))
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Message.py", line 203, in __init__
    self['Subject'] = Header(subject, charset, header_name='Subject')
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 164, in
__init__
    self.append(s, charset)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/email/Header.py", line 230, in
append
    ustr = unicode(s, incodec)
UnicodeError: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128)

-- 
Jon Parise (jon at horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/)

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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:31:35 -0800
From: Keith Steward <ksteward at keithsteward.com>
To: mailman-users at python.org, mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] 
 can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available for sendmail programs"
issue
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Arghhhh!!!  

After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0 
final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman not 
available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous 
things), i'm just about ready to give up.

I've been able to get Mailman to send  email to a new subscriber asking 
for confirmation, and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the 
subscriber's confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh 
problem:
-------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------
sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward at keithsteward.com>, 
size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJgjI
3Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186]
smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use mailman request test1
sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1", 
ctladdr=<test1-request at justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), 
delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, 
stat=Service unavailable
sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: gBTEUjD30786: DSN: Service unavailable
sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: to=<ksteward at keithsteward.com>, 
delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, 
relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent 
(gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery)
----------- end segment ---------------

*System information:*
RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2
The /etc/aliases includes:
## test1 mailing list
test1:              "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1"
test1-admin:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1"
test1-bounces:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1"
test1-confirm:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1"
test1-join:         "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1"
test1-leave:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1"
test1-owner:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1"
test1-request:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1"
test1-subscribe:    "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1"
test1-unsubscribe:  "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1" Sendmail can
send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) 
account on the machine running Mailman.
newaliases was run after the above aliases were added. /etc/smrsh
contains:
 lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman -> 
/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
The permissions on the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are:
 -rwxr-sr-x    1 mailman  mailman     39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman


*Things i've tried:*

   1. ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail
   2. path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either
      '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman'
   3. ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
   4. copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman)
      into /etc/smrsh
   5. changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail
   6. by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" |
      /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining
      about the gid
   7. by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" |
      /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid
complaint.
   8. restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after
      config changes.

By the way, i've done extensive reading of:

    * Mailman INSTALL
    * Mailman README.SENDMAIL
    * Mailman README.LINUX
    * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc
    * the mailman-developers list archives

At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon 
Mailman and switch to something like Majordomo, etc.   And frankly i 
think i've run out of time.  I've spent several evenings on this 
already.  Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more 
important than the bells and whistles that Mailman offers.

thanks.

-keith s.



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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:28:56 -0800
From: "Keith Steward" <ksteward at keithsteward.com>
To: <mailman-users at python.org>, <mailman-developers at python.org>
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] 
 FW: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available  for
sendmail programs" issue
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Message: 5

Danny,

I had it that way (i.e. "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test1" in
the /etc/aliases) before, and then tried the "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post
test1", as indicated in the Mailman INSTALL doc.  Both gave the "smrsh:
mailman not available for sendmail" error.

thanks

 
Keith 


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Terweij [mailto:danny at terweij.nl] 
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Keith Steward; mailman-users at python.org;
mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available
for sendmail programs" issue


|From: Keith Steward

|Arghhhh!!!

|After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0
final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: |mailman not
available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous
things), i'm just about ready to give up.


|The /etc/aliases includes:
|## test1 mailing list
|test1:              "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1"
|test1-admin:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1"
|test1-bounces:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1"
|test1-confirm:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1"
|test1-join:         "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1"
|test1-leave:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1"
|test1-owner:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1"
|test1-request:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1"
|test1-subscribe:    "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1"
|test1-unsubscribe:  "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1"

Keith, this above is not good!!!!
Must be like :

## poema-test mailing list mailman2.1
poema-test:              "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post
poema-test"
poema-test-admin:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman admin
poema-test"
poema-test-bounces:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces
poema-test"
poema-test-confirm:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman confirm
poema-test"
poema-test-join:         "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman join
poema-test"
poema-test-leave:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman leave
poema-test"
poema-test-owner:        "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman owner
poema-test"
poema-test-request:      "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman request
poema-test"
poema-test-subscribe:    "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe
poema-test"
poema-test-unsubscribe:  "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe
poema-test"


Danny.





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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:20:12 -0500
From: barry at python.org (Barry A. Warsaw)
To: Jon Parise <jon at horde.org>
Cc: mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug
Message-ID: <15887.44380.624951.180599 at gargle.gargle.HOWL>
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Any possibility you can send me the message?
-Barry

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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:31:51 -0800
From: "Keith Steward" <ksteward at keithsteward.com>
To: "'Larry Rosenman'" <ler at lerctr.org>
Cc: mailman-developers at python.org
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: [Mailman-Developers] 
 RE: [Mailman-Users]  can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available  for
sendmail programs" issue
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Message: 7

Larry,

BINGO!  You hit the nail on the head !!! Problem solved!

Your comment prompted me to review the smrsh.c code within the sendmail
distribution.  When CMDDIR is not defined by the OS (I couldn't find in
in any system *.h files), then in smrsh.c it defaults to
/usr/adm/sm.bin/ .  Even though RedHat7.2 already has an /etc/smrsh/
directory (including a link entry there for slocal), the Sendmail (at
least the 8.11.6 version I downloaded and installed) was not using that
directory.  Instead, it was looking for the default /usr/adm/sm.bin/.
The /etc/smrsh/ directory was a red herring!  Once I created the
/usr/adm/sm.bin, and chmod 755 (recommended by the smrsch/README within
Sendmail), and then set up the symbolic link in there:
    mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
the problem disappeared.

Thanks!!!

-keith


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler at lerctr.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 5:26 PM
To: keith at bioinformaticstech.com
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not available
for sendmail programs" issue




--On Sunday, December 29, 2002 17:20:22 -0800 Keith Steward
<ksteward at keithsteward.com> wrote:

> Larry,
>
> Yes, the /etc/smrsh/ directory contains a symbolic link to the mailman
> wrapper:  ie.
>   /etc/smrsh/mailman -> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
are you SURE that your SMRSH is set to use /etc/smrsh as it's CMDDIR?

Also, did you try it with the /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman aliases as
someone else pointed out?

LER

>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Keith
>
> --
> Keith L. Steward, Ph.D.    work: 408-957-7777 x300   cell:
408-250-5213
> Email: keith at BioinformaticsTech.com
> Web: http://www.BioinformaticsTech.com
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>           or call 1-888-849-9479
> FAX:  408-226-3215 408-40 (call ahead for setup)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Rosenman [mailto:ler at lerctr.org]
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:08 PM
> To: Keith Steward; mailman-users at python.org; 
> mailman-developers at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] can't resolve "smrsh: mailman not 
> available for sendmail programs" issue
>
>
> Did you put links to the $MAILMANHOME/mail/mailman program in the 
> CMDDIR directory for your copy of SMRSH?
>
> LER
>
>
> --On Sunday, December 29, 2002 13:31:35 -0800 Keith Steward 
> <ksteward at keithsteward.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Arghhhh!!!
>>
>> After several attempts to get Mailman installed (including stable 2.0

>> final, and newest 2.1rc1), and hitting unresolvable "smrsh: mailman 
>> not available for sendmail programs" issues (despite trying numerous 
>> things), i'm just about ready to give up. I've been able to get 
>> Mailman to send  email to a new subscriber asking for confirmation, 
>> and the /var/log/maillog shows the response to the subscriber's 
>> confirmation email, but ALWAYS reporting the damn smrsh
>> problem:  -------- /var/log/maillog segment ------------
>>  sendmail[30785]: gBTEUjD30785: from=<ksteward at keithsteward.com>, 
>> size=2749, class=0, nrcpts=1, 
>> msgid=<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAebN2b6Pb1RGjtQJ
>> g
>> jI3
>> Ph8KAAAAQAAAAX+S3UuMa1xGjtQAFXc7j, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA,
>> relay=steward-family.com [66.127.210.186]  smrsh: uid 8: attempt to 
>> use mailman request test1
>>  sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785: to="|/etc/smrsh/mailman request 
>> test1", ctladdr=<test1-request at justice4injuredworkers.org> (8/0), 
>> delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=prog, pri=31743, dsn=5.0.0, 
>> stat=Service unavailable  sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30785:
>> gBTEUjD30786:
>
>> DSN: Service unavailable  sendmail[30786]: gBTEUjD30786: 
>> to=<ksteward at keithsteward.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, 
>> mailer=esmtp, pri=31843, relay=keithsteward.com. [66.127.210.186], 
>> dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (gBTERt820385 Message accepted for delivery)
>>  ----------- end segment ---------------
>>
>> System information:
>>  RedHat 7.2, Sendmail 8.11.6, Python-2.2.2
>>  The /etc/aliases includes:
>>  ## test1 mailing list
>>  test1:              "|/etc/smrsh/mailman post test1"
>>  test1-admin:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman admin test1"
>>  test1-bounces:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman bounces test1"
>>  test1-confirm:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman confirm test1"
>>  test1-join:         "|/etc/smrsh/mailman join test1"
>>  test1-leave:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman leave test1"
>>  test1-owner:        "|/etc/smrsh/mailman owner test1"
>>  test1-request:      "|/etc/smrsh/mailman request test1"
>>  test1-subscribe:    "|/etc/smrsh/mailman subscribe test1"
>>  test1-unsubscribe:  "|/etc/smrsh/mailman unsubscribe test1"
>> Sendmail
>
>> can send and receive successfully from a regular (non-Mailman) 
>> account
>
>> on the machine running Mailman.  newaliases was run after the above 
>> aliases were added.  /etc/smrsh contains:
>>   lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           31 Dec 29 05:38 mailman ->
>> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman  The permissions on the
>> /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman wrapper are:   -rwxr-sr-x    1
mailman
>> mailman     39593 Dec 29 05:16 mailman
>>
>> Things i've tried:
>>
>>   * ./configure --with-mail-gid=mail
>>   * path to mailman wrapper in /etc/aliases as either 
>> '/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman' or '/etc/smrsh/mailman'
>>   * ln -s /etc/smrsh/mailman /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman
>>   * copying the compiled wrapper (/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman)
> into
>> /etc/smrsh    * changing uid/gid of the wrapper to mailman, to mail
>>   * by-passing sendmail as a test as in: echo "confirm" | 
>> /etc/smrsh/mailman request test1, only to get mailman complaining
> about
>> the gid    * by-passing root/sendmail as in: sudo -u mail "test" |
>> /etc/smrsh/mailman request mailman, only to still get a gid 
>> complaint.
>> * restarting Sendmail daemon and Mailman's qrunner daemon after
config
>
>> changes. By the way, i've done extensive reading of:
>>
>>   * Mailman INSTALL
>>   * Mailman README.SENDMAIL
>>   * Mailman README.LINUX
>>   * Sendmails various READMES pertaining to SMRSH etc
>>   * the mailman-developers list archives
>> At this point, i'm out of ideas on what to try, except to abandon
> Mailman
>> and switch to something like Majordomo, etc.   And frankly i think
> i've
>> run out of time.  I've spent several evenings on this already. 
>> Getting any kind of mailing list up and running is more important 
>> than
>
>> the bells and whistles that Mailman offers. thanks.
>>
>> -keith s.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Larry Rosenman                     http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
> Phone: +1 972-414-9812                 E-Mail: ler at lerctr.org
> US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
>



--
Larry Rosenman                     http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
Phone: +1 972-414-9812                 E-Mail: ler at lerctr.org
US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749



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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:51:52 -0500
From: Jon Parise <jon at horde.org>
To: "Barry A. Warsaw" <barry at python.org>
Cc: mailman-developers at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Developers] email package bug
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:20:12PM -0500, Barry A. Warsaw wrote:

> Any possibility you can send me the message?

It looks like it's in the process of building the message when it dies
(at least, that's my reading of the trace).  How would I go about
getting you the message contents?

-- 
Jon Parise (jon at horde.org) :: The Horde Project (http://horde.org/)

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