[Mailman-Developers] suggestion for sending monthly reminders
Marc MERLIN
marc_news@valinux.com
Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:08:10 -0700
So, I have the problem that I obviously get a bunch of bounces every month
when the mailing list membership Emails leave.
The envelope sender is test-admin@lists.sf.net while the header sender is
mailman-owner@lists.sf.net.
Of course, we get a bunch of bounces at the header sender address from MTAs
and stupid autoresponders that don't respect basic mail protocols (i.e.
automated bounces always go to the envelope sender)
Some people have however written back saying that their autoresponder is
safe, and that it's ok to bounce back to the header sender as long as the
original receipient was listed in To: or Cc:
I happen to disagree with that, but unfortunately I've never found an RFC to
support my side of the argument.
In the meantime, I've written this:
http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/autoresponders.txt
I am currently unsubscribing on sight any person who bounces back to the
header sender because I do not want to see loops on my lists, but I thought
that it might be a bit more civil if I sent the membership reminder with a
To: field of <mailmanlistsubscriber@lists.sf.net> so that if anyone still
bounces a mail like this, they can really be removed, and even in some
automated way.
I had a quick look at the mailman code, and apparently mailpasswd calls
other functions so I didn't find a quick way to hack that.
1) Do people agree that optionally not listing the receipient of the
reminder in monthly password reminders could be a good thing?
2) I'd also add the receipient in the subject line (i.e. "Password reminder
for foobar@provider.tld" as many broken autoresponders don't bounce the
body and bounce from another address so you have no clue where the bounce
came from (they usually are nice enough to leave the subject line mostly
intact, so that's sometimes the only way to see who is bouncing)
3) Is there a quick way to hack that in the mm source?
Thanks,
Marc
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