[IPython-dev] Upgrading Kernels for IPython 3

Andrew Gibiansky andrew.gibiansky at gmail.com
Tue Nov 25 03:07:38 EST 2014


Kiko,

Just to clarify, I need a command that *does* work on IPython 3. I can
already do this for IPython 2, and am looking for the equivalent once 3 is
released. In both the links you provided, it says that in IPython 3 you
have to select it from a dropdown, which does not work for me.

-- Andrew

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Kiko <kikocorreoso at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2014-11-25 3:48 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gibiansky <andrew.gibiansky at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks all. You've answered most of my questions, but I'm still a little
>> unsure – when I run IPython (v3), it starts up a IPython+Python kernel
>> console (as expected). In previous IPythons, you'd ask for a different
>> kernel via "--profile". Now, since the kernels directory and registry
>> exists, the profiles will be less important; however, is there still a way
>> to request a particular kernel at startup? (without using --profile?)
>>
>
> See the "Running the notebook" section here:
> https://github.com/takluyver/IRkernel#running-the-notebook
> Or at the end of this notebook:
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/ipython-books/cookbook-code/blob/master/notebooks/chapter01_basic/06_kernel.ipynb
>
>
>>
>> In addition, I'd like to request/ask about an addition to the kernel
>> directory. Could kernels ship their own nbconvert templates in addition to
>> the custom.css/custom.js? If they could, I think that would eliminate
>> completely my need to use IPython profiles for IHaskell, which would be a
>> boon.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Thomas Kluyver <takowl at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23 November 2014 at 23:01, Andrew Gibiansky <
>>> andrew.gibiansky at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1.  When is IPython 3 slated to be out (and on PyPI)? I saw the roadmap
>>>> on the wiki, which indicated Fall 2014 – are there any more detailed plans?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It will probably be early in the new year now.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Is there a list of things kernel authors need to do to update
>>>> kernels? I've attempted to use the same kernel with IPython 3 and found
>>>> that nothing works (my guess is there are several things in need of
>>>> updating).
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a new version (5) of the message spec, but as Matthias
>>> mentioned, IPython should detect a kernel using the version 4 message spec
>>> and translate messages so it keeps working. Other than that, you should
>>> write a kernel spec, as described here:
>>> http://ipython.org/ipython-doc/dev/development/kernels.html#kernel-specs
>>>
>>> If you have custom JS overrides, they will almost certainly need to be
>>> updated, but there's no documentation of how to do that; the frontend
>>> interfaces are all changing much too fast to be worth documenting at
>>> present. If you have specific questions, feel free to ask us. We will also
>>> make a way to provide custom JS with a kernelspec for the kernel selection
>>> mechanism, but this isn't in place yet.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. It seems that the new architecture assumes that kernels will install
>>>> themselves into the ipython kernels directory, after which the user will
>>>> invoke "ipython notebook" and choose the kernel. While I like this and
>>>> would like to support this usage, historically I have shipped an "IHaskell"
>>>> command which just ran IHaskell directly via "ipython --profile haskell"
>>>> (along with doing a whole suite of other things). I would like to continue
>>>> to provide this sort of mechanism to start IHaskell specifically, but it
>>>> looks like "--profile" is deprecated (although it still appears in
>>>> "--help"). What should I do? (Also, is "--profile-dir" also deprecated? It
>>>> also appears in help and doesn't say it's deprecated.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't remember that we've deprecated --profile, though we haven't
>>> decided yet what will happen with profiles when we separate IPython and
>>> Jupyter.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Thomas
>>>
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