[Inpycon] Reg PyCon India 2018

Fri Apr 13 03:23:02 EDT 2018

Hi Everyone
Many Faces come with many views, If you have 30-50 L budget then you must view one of best venue. In fact, even you take the best of best venue in Hyderabad, you find some pros and cons there also.
Reg campus, as your views it might not be correct, as we already told, our campus classroom and Audi is independent, so you won't get any disturbance.
Anyway, now I suggest not to discuss more, in fact, I just compared with Prev Three Pycon INDIA venues, which I can assure based on that I suggest that in Hyd we (CMR) could be one of the best options.
I say proudly that in comparison of IIT, IIIT, Uoh, JNTUH we have at-par even better audi, and other seminar and associated resources that too we are not quoting 30-40 L as well.

As my one of the friend suggests & advise, so only I proposed.
I just wish it be a grand successful event and graced by numerous dignities.
Still, any sort of support seek, always feel free to connect.
My best wishes for Pycon 2018 in Hyd, India.

 RegardsVijender Kr. Solanki, Ph.DAssociate Professor - CSE
CMR Institute of Technology 
Hyderabad, TS, India
+91-9911-513-926
Editor -  International Journal of Machine Learning and Networked Collaborative Engineering

https://sites.google.com/site/vijenderkrsolanki/

    On Friday, 13 April, 2018, 12:40:00 PM IST, Arjun Nemani <nemaniarjun at gmail.com> wrote:  

 Hello everyone, 
I am Arjun Nemani, one of the heads of Open Source Developers Group, IIIT-H. 
As I am from IIIT Hyderabad, and was involved with PyConf last year, I feel like the venue is apt for an event of such scale.
Any college, I feel will not be able to cope up with the requirements of such an event.
Coming to IIIT personally, the college will certainly not be able to handle this event without disturbing classes. 
Also if the venue is confirmed, then there is no point in discussing about it. 
Just my 2 cents. Looking forward to a great PyCon! 

Sincerely, Arjun NemaniOSDG, IIIT-H 7387676442 
On Fri 13 Apr, 2018, 12:22 PM Bibhas Ch Debnath, <me at bibhas.in> wrote:

Hi, 

On Fri 13 Apr, 2018, 12:09 PM naren yellavula, <naren.yellavula at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I completely agree with Ramanathan. A venue plays a key role in drawing professionals who drive the economic aspect of the conference. As a Hyderabadi, I can assure you engineering colleges are very far from the city[with few exceptions]. CMR is 28KM from Kacheguda(actual city) and 21KM from Secunderabad. HICC is a bit closer venue within the city. It also surrounded by Gachibowli and Hitech City where many software professionals work and live. Commuting too is very easy. If cost needs to be well managed, IIIT (Hyderabad) could be a better option for the City's next turn. 

I think IIIT was one of the first venues that was considered by the ground team as it was the venue for PyConf last year. 

Cheers,
Naren.
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy <ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:

@quanon - Thank you for your support and opinions. Location is a primary ingredient in a conference - it took a lot of effort & time from all of us to finalize because it drives other decisions like conference tracks, ticket pricing, sponsorship details & other aspects. Once a location is finalized, revisiting it would start the process all over again & will put us back 4 weeks time. 
Looking forward to seeing you at the conference.
Best,Ramanathan.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 2:20 AM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:

Replies inline below,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:37 PM, Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy <ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:

The search for Venue has been happening for almost a month and a half, and we had multiple parameters to fit in.
1. Make sure working population can make to the conference in good numbers.  Almost 85-90% of working people in Hyderabad is based out of Hitech city and around and proximity to them was considered important.

PyCon India is a national event, convenience to majority people from all over India should be catered to, right?  
2. Make sure enough number of hotels and hangout places are available near the venue for people traveling from outside of Hyderabad. 

3. Keep the ticket pricing affordable for everyone while giving good discounts to students.4. Be able to conduct the workshops on a weekday and have the scheduled classes (in case it is a college) undisturbed.5. Have parallel sessions halls nearby and not far away from the main hall.6. Have sufficient place for impromptu open spaces and unconference events.

Seems most of these points are covered by the offer from CMR. 
7. Ensure the tenth anniversary of PyCon India is a grand celebration.

So far this point seems to be the only reasonable explanation on why a venue of 35 to 40 lacs would be preferred.

Besides these, we had to bootstrap quickly for the conference (well, we all know "what need not be discussed again") and there was an urgency in confirming the venue to finalize the conference structure and other details.  We considered almost 15 other venue options (not to miss IIT, IIIT, JNTU, UOH, BITS, Cyber conventions, JRC, Avasa, Marriot, Katriya, Park, ITC Kohenur, etc,.) and finalized on HICC as it was a perfect fit on all the aspects mentioned.  Rest assured, a lot of careful and cautious thought has gone into the decision. 

Coming specifically to CMR as a venue option that came up yesterday, it is not a good fit while considering #1 and #2.

As you can see from the mail from Dr solanki they have many reasonably priced hotels around. 
 I had called up Dr.Solanki today morning to explain the rationale and factors behind the decision and also to thank him for his kind gesture.  We totally understand that he is trying to help us in reducing cost. Once again, thanks Dr.Solanki for coming up with the offer. 
Hope that explains.
@quanon - We totally understand your intentions are towards reducing overall cost and making the event better and bigger.  While I (and HydPy) will let the "irresponsible" remark brush aside - I humbly request you to practice some empathetic communication within the community.  It will take us all a long way together and help in the overall wellbeing of the community and success of the event. Appreciate your understanding.

I replied in the manner as the initial response to Dr Solanki did not explain the reason for not entertaining his offer. I felt it was my "responsibility" to ask for it.
Thank you for taking the time to explain your/teams choice on the matter.I still personally feel spending such a huge amount on venue does not make sense but ultimately the decision is of the local team and I respect that.
Hope you folks have a great PyCon 2018 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 4:28 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:

It seems highly irresponsible to not even consider a cheaper venue, with the current venue mentioned you would be spending 35-40 lacs on venue and food alone.
Let's outline the pros and cons of the venues HCC vs CMR
What are the practical reasons not to consider the CMR institute mentioned by Dr. Solanki?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:07 PM, Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy <ramanathanhari at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Dr.Vijender - Thanks a lot for coming forward with the offer.  We really appreciate the gesture.
We have finalized the venue in HICC, Novotel, Hyderabad. The conference dates and other details of the conference can be found at https://in.pycon.org.  Please watch out this mailing list for further updates on the event.
Thanks again,Ramanathan.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Dr. Vijender Kr. Solanki via Inpycon <inpycon at python.org> wrote:

Dear Sir Greetings !!!
Is the venue is confirmed in Hyderabad?
If not or still in search, then we would like to propose our Campus for Pycon India 2018
Kindly advise, if its possible.
We would like to seek T&C to be eligible for the same conference HOST.

RegardsVijender Kr. Solanki, Ph.DAssociate Professor - CSE
CMR Institute of Technology 
Hyderabad, TS, India
+91-9911-513-926
Editor -  International Journal of Machine Learning and Networked Collaborative Engineering

https://sites.google.com/site/vijenderkrsolanki/

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