[Inpycon] [pythonpune] Re: Announcing PyCon Pune 2017 & Call for Volunteers

[Kushal Das]

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:33 PM, Thin Rhino <thinrhino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Kushal for your email.
>
> a. The email you refer to sent in June 2016, even Chandan did not reply to
> suggestions given to him.
> (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/PythonPune/SGqbgfgv6iA)

There were only one positive reply along with venue suggestion. I know for sure
that Chandan made contact with the people we know from COEP.


>
> b. Once the idea was followed up in Delhi, it was expected that somebody
> would take the effort to update the community for the benefit of those not
> present in Delhi.

It was a work in progress raw idea we were floating about.  Why do you feel
like we should be obliged to mail out every thought that we have before
acting on it?

>
> c. Call for volunteers was sent out only after most of the things were
> finalised by a small group of people minus any feedback from the community.
>

I already wrote in my mail how we reached out to the developers, and at the same
time asked for people to join in. To decide venue, and many other  details,
it is not possible to wait for everyone to join in, and then discuss,
and decide. We
chose to fix a few problems of the conference as early as possible.

> d. Constructive feedback would had come if somebody would have made an
> effort of asking about it.

We did, that was the call for volunteers and subsequent emails.  Over 100
people responded and are pitching in. What additional effort do you expect to
make you a willing volunteer?  If it is reasonable we could try doing that but
if you're expecting a participatory democracy, i.e. asking for opinions on
every decision we take then that is not going to happen because of the
latency in doing that. If you really want to be involved and not just
complain then please volunteer, we would love to have more hands on board
in every aspect of the event organization.



Kushal



> Cheers
>
>
>
> On 3 November 2016 at 23:19, Kushal Das <kushaldas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> To begin, let me apologize for the delay in response - I was traveling
>> and wanted to take time to respond to this without escalating this
>> further.
>>
>> The idea of having a PyCon in Pune started in July, before PyCon
>> India in Delhi when Chandan sent an email to the local mailing list about
>> hosting PyCon India in Pune next year.  The email did not see a lot of
>> responses and the thread died more or less as soon as it started.  We
>> (Chandan, Sayan, etc.) followed up that idea in Delhi and during those
>> discussions people (including those from PSF) reminded us that there
>> was absolutely no problem with doing more than one PyCon in one
>> country, and that was encouraging.  The idea of having more than one
>> Python event in a year also seemed great because it meant we did not
>> have to wait till September next year to meet again.  The idea seemed
>> great for another reason - we could have a slightly different focus
>> for this PyCon, with the possibility of hosting developer sprints that
>> will allow local developers to work with contributors to key Open
>> Source projects like Django, CPython, etc.
>>
>> To see if this idea was even possible we reached out to some key
>> contributors early to see if they could join us.  In parallel Chandan
>> sent out a call for volunteers in which he specifically mentioned that
>> an organizing committee would be formed out of the volunteer group.
>> He also sent out communication about the website initial draft and
>> later the CfP.
>>
>> We have had almost 100 volunteers so far, some of whom have even
>> started sending pull requests for the website design.  I can't see
>> what additional communication is necessary to urge those who have
>> refused to sign up as volunteers, to get them to join us.
>>
>> That said, we would love to hear constructive feedback (that does not
>> involve calling people 'shameless' or other names) and would like to
>> know what else we can do to make the local community feel more
>> involved if they already aren't.  One idea is to send out a summary
>> every week following our meetings for those who are unable to attend.
>> We also have #pyconpune channel on Freenode server (IRC), where we
>> are having live conversation among volunteers.
>>
>> Kushal
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