From asldevi at gmail.com Mon Apr 1 12:39:39 2013 From: asldevi at gmail.com (Devi) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:09:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Encouraging women developers to join PyCon In-Reply-To: References: <87y5d5pllr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:51 PM, priya iyer wrote: >>How about we decrease ticket price to some amount or maybe waive it totally >> for them? > > Umm... I am kind of taking offence at this. If we girls want to attend, we > can pay too. +1 > Another challenge is transportation. If you talk in the college to give > their transportation to and fro after the evening time with drop off at key > places in the city, I think it would personally help. +1 From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Apr 12 06:32:52 2013 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:02:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2013 Sponsorship Prospectus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Vijay made sponsorship prospectus for PyCon India 2013 and I made some fine > tunings to it. > > Please have a look at it and let us know if anything is missing. > > http://in.pycon.org/2013/static/pyconindia2013-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf Is this the final version? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 12 07:29:07 2013 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:29:07 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2013 Sponsorship Prospectus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1365744547.38357.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> No We have made few changes. Anand C will publish final version soon. ________________________________ From: sankarshan To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2013 Sponsorship Prospectus On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Vijay made sponsorship prospectus for PyCon India 2013 and I made some fine > tunings to it. > > Please have a look at it and let us know if anything is missing. > > http://in.pycon.org/2013/static/pyconindia2013-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf Is this the final version? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 14 06:27:42 2013 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:27:42 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Potential sponsors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1365913662.62634.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Hi Anand and Ramki, ? ?As we are ready with sponsor ?prospectus can you please get in touch with them or share email id with me so i can speak to them. ? ?Below ?link is final version of sponsor prospectus document. http://in.pycon.org/2013/static/pyconindia2013-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf ________________________________ From: Anand B Pillai To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013 2:15 PM Subject: [Inpycon] Potential sponsors Hi all, ?Myself and Ramki met with around 8-10 companies and shared contact details while we were at PyCon U.S. Many of them are potential sponsors and likely supporters. Will send more details in next few days. 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Let us not dilute the keynote weight. > > 2 keynote plus 1-2 solid invited speakers seems about right. > I spoke to Joe about the speaking at PyCon India about lambda-py and he is interested. Looks like he can arrange $1000 from Brown university and we need to support another $1000 for his travel and stay. If there are no objections, we can confirm that. You can know more about Joe Gibbs Politz from his website http://jpolitz.github.io/. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sree at mahiti.org Tue Apr 16 06:58:13 2013 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 10:28:13 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: References: <87txnwrp8e.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87obe4rnfe.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ip4crmuf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1364533635.88400.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 16 April 2013 10:22, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > spoke to Joe about the speaking at PyCon India about lambda-py and he is > interested. Looks like he can arrange $1000 from Brown university and we > need to support another $1000 for his travel and stay. If there are no > objections, we can confirm that. +1 - sree -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. Bangalore, India - 560043 Phone: +91 80 4905 8444 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org www.mahiti-infotech.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Apr 16 08:18:14 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 11:48:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: (Anand B. Pillai's message of "Thu, 28 Mar 2013 12:01:57 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87fvyrvw0p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Apropos keynote speakers, we contacted Hilary Mason last year and she couldn't make it because the dates clashed with a personal appointment she had at the time. I'd very much like to invite her this year. Do we have the budget for it? -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Tue Apr 16 13:10:10 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:40:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87fvyrvw0p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyrvw0p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Apropos keynote speakers, we contacted Hilary Mason last year and she > couldn't make it because the dates clashed with a personal appointment > she had at the time. I'd very much like to invite her this year. Do we > have the budget for it? > We haven't decided the other keynote speaker yet. We kind of have a guest lecture on lambda-py. So if we get someone from PyPy team, then python implementations will be a nice theme of the conference. What do you say? Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Apr 16 13:14:08 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:44:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:40:10 +0530") References: <87fvyrvw0p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87y5civibj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Anand Chitipothu writes: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> >> Apropos keynote speakers, we contacted Hilary Mason last year and she >> couldn't make it because the dates clashed with a personal appointment >> she had at the time. I'd very much like to invite her this year. Do we >> have the budget for it? >> > > We haven't decided the other keynote speaker yet. > > We kind of have a guest lecture on lambda-py. So if we get someone from > PyPy team, then python implementations will be a nice theme of the > conference. What do you say? The 'theme' idea is nice but I'm not sure how much that helps the conference as a whole. There are not many people who are seriously interested in implementations (most people are into application level stuff - specfically web). I'm not insistent about this but I don't really see what 1. "theming" the event gives us 2. How an "implementations" theme is relevant/useful to the Indian community. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Tue Apr 16 13:24:53 2013 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:54:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87y5civibj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyrvw0p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87y5civibj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Perhaps it will provide us more exposure. If we stick to popular applications, it will more or less be a djangocon. Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Noufal Ibrahim >wrote: > > > >> > >> Apropos keynote speakers, we contacted Hilary Mason last year and she > >> couldn't make it because the dates clashed with a personal appointment > >> she had at the time. I'd very much like to invite her this year. Do we > >> have the budget for it? > >> > > > > We haven't decided the other keynote speaker yet. > > > > We kind of have a guest lecture on lambda-py. So if we get someone from > > PyPy team, then python implementations will be a nice theme of the > > conference. What do you say? > > The 'theme' idea is nice but I'm not sure how much that helps the > conference as a whole. > > There are not many people who are seriously interested in > implementations (most people are into application level stuff - > specfically web). > > I'm not insistent about this but I don't really see what > > 1. "theming" the event gives us > 2. How an "implementations" theme is relevant/useful to the Indian > community. > > > [...] > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Apr 16 14:25:51 2013 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand B Pillai) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:55:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Potential sponsors In-Reply-To: <1365913662.62634.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <1365913662.62634.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thank you. Will try and contact some of them during this week. On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:57 AM, vijay wrote: > Hi Anand and Ramki, > As we are ready with sponsor prospectus can you please get in touch > with them or share email id with me so i can speak to them. > Below link is final version of sponsor prospectus document. > http://in.pycon.org/2013/static/pyconindia2013-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anand B Pillai > *To:* Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > *Sent:* Thursday, 21 March 2013 2:15 PM > *Subject:* [Inpycon] Potential sponsors > > Hi all, > > Myself and Ramki met with around 8-10 companies and > shared contact details while we were at PyCon U.S. Many of > them are potential sponsors and likely supporters. > > Will send more details in next few days. 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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Apr 25 07:09:36 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:39:36 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 Message-ID: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Okay. We need to get this wrapped up. We are planning to have 2 speakers. The first one is Kiran. The second is undecided although there are some potential candidates. I'll let this thread grow for suggestions. This is the list so far. I've also included a brief bio/list of projects they're famous for. - Armin Ronacher - Flask, pocco projects. - Kenneth Reitz - Requests and other "for humans" alternatives to stdlib. - Alex Gaynor - PyPy and optimisation in general. - Steve Holden - PSF - Van Lindberg - PSF - Hilary Mason - bit.ly (we invited her last year but she had other engagements). In addition to this, we have one other invited speaker. - Joe Gibbs (of the lambda-py project). I don't want to this democratically (via voting) but it would be nice to have some discussion. We'll zero in on someone by the middle of next week and I'll invite them formally. Time is running short and we need to make a decision. I'm personally for inviting Hilary Mason. She's technically strong, active in the startup community and was a keynote speaker at PyCon in Atlanta. In addition to this, we tried to invite her last year and she was interested but couldn't because of a schedule conflict. Steve Holden and Van Lindberg can speak from a PSF/community perspective. The others are technically strong and from what I know, good speakers. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From b.ghose at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 07:17:55 2013 From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:47:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: I feel Kenneth Reitz will catch people's fancy (eg. students) with his talk, especially about contributing back to Python/FOSS, etc. Hillary Mason is awesome from a technical standpoint as well. ~BG On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Okay. We need to get this wrapped up. > > We are planning to have 2 speakers. The first one is Kiran. The second > is undecided although there are some potential candidates. I'll let this > thread grow for suggestions. This is the list so far. I've also included > a brief bio/list of projects they're famous for. > > - Armin Ronacher - Flask, pocco projects. > - Kenneth Reitz - Requests and other "for humans" alternatives to stdlib. > - Alex Gaynor - PyPy and optimisation in general. > - Steve Holden - PSF > - Van Lindberg - PSF > - Hilary Mason - bit.ly (we invited her last year but she had other engagements). > > In addition to this, we have one other invited speaker. > > - Joe Gibbs (of the lambda-py project). > > > I don't want to this democratically (via voting) but it would be nice to > have some discussion. We'll zero in on someone by the middle of next > week and I'll invite them formally. Time is running short and we need to > make a decision. > > I'm personally for inviting Hilary Mason. She's technically strong, > active in the startup community and was a keynote speaker at PyCon in > Atlanta. In addition to this, we tried to invite her last year and she > was interested but couldn't because of a schedule conflict. > > Steve Holden and Van Lindberg can speak from a PSF/community perspective. > > The others are technically strong and from what I know, good speakers. > > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com From kapoor.vaidik at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 07:26:08 2013 From: kapoor.vaidik at gmail.com (Vaidik Kapoor) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:56:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: > I feel Kenneth Reitz will catch people's fancy (eg. students) with his > talk, especially about contributing back to Python/FOSS, etc. Hillary > Mason is awesome from a technical standpoint as well. ~BG +1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Thu Apr 25 07:35:34 2013 From: me at kracekumar.com (me kracekumar) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:05:34 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Heroku offers travel grants for Kenneth AFAIK. If his availability is confirmed and travel is sponsored. Armin or Alex can be sponsored. That will have three key note speakers. On Apr 25, 2013 10:48 AM, "Baishampayan Ghose" wrote: > I feel Kenneth Reitz will catch people's fancy (eg. students) with his > talk, especially about contributing back to Python/FOSS, etc. Hillary > Mason is awesome from a technical standpoint as well. ~BG > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > > Okay. We need to get this wrapped up. > > > > We are planning to have 2 speakers. The first one is Kiran. The second > > is undecided although there are some potential candidates. I'll let this > > thread grow for suggestions. This is the list so far. I've also included > > a brief bio/list of projects they're famous for. > > > > - Armin Ronacher - Flask, pocco projects. > > - Kenneth Reitz - Requests and other "for humans" alternatives to > stdlib. > > - Alex Gaynor - PyPy and optimisation in general. > > - Steve Holden - PSF > > - Van Lindberg - PSF > > - Hilary Mason - bit.ly (we invited her last year but she had other > engagements). > > > > In addition to this, we have one other invited speaker. > > > > - Joe Gibbs (of the lambda-py project). > > > > > > I don't want to this democratically (via voting) but it would be nice to > > have some discussion. We'll zero in on someone by the middle of next > > week and I'll invite them formally. Time is running short and we need to > > make a decision. > > > > I'm personally for inviting Hilary Mason. She's technically strong, > > active in the startup community and was a keynote speaker at PyCon in > > Atlanta. In addition to this, we tried to invite her last year and she > > was interested but couldn't because of a schedule conflict. > > > > Steve Holden and Van Lindberg can speak from a PSF/community perspective. > > > > The others are technically strong and from what I know, good speakers. > > > > > > > > -- > > Cordially, > > Noufal > > http://nibrahim.net.in > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > -- > Baishampayan Ghose > b.ghose at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 08:21:56 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:51:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials Message-ID: Hello everyone, We need to roll out CFP soon. Before that we need to finalize how we are planning to have tutorials. Tutorials didn't work out very well last year. We had newbies submitting tutorials. One tutorial speaker didn't turn up and many were not up to the mark. One of the ideas to improve it is to have only experienced trainers give these trainings and we pay these trainers for their efforts. Instead of keeping one flat fee for attending tutorials, we can have fee for each tutorial and people will have to pay for each tutorial that they want to attend. This helps in keep the number of attendees in each training in control and we can plan the logistics better. I suggest keep Rs. 1500 for each training, limit each training to 30 people and pay about half of that amount to trainer. What do you think? Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Apr 25 08:33:48 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:03:48 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:51:56 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Anand Chitipothu writes: > Hello everyone, > > We need to roll out CFP soon. Before that we need to finalize how we are > planning to have tutorials. > > Tutorials didn't work out very well last year. We had newbies submitting > tutorials. One tutorial speaker didn't turn up and many were not up to the > mark. > > One of the ideas to improve it is to have only experienced trainers give > these trainings and we pay these trainers for their efforts. Yes. Tutorials have to be specially screened. No first time tutorials and only people who do training. Not a first timer. They'll also need to submit all their material and slides upfront. This will be possible only if it's already ready. We can use our discretion for specific cases if we deem it fit but the general rule stands. A small number of good tutorials (or talks for that matter) is better than a large number of average/bad ones. Meta Refresh this time had a single track I think and from the vibes, it will well received. > Instead of keeping one flat fee for attending tutorials, we can have > fee for each tutorial and people will have to pay for each tutorial > that they want to attend. This helps in keep the number of attendees > in each training in control and we can plan the logistics better. > > I suggest keep Rs. 1500 for each training, limit each training to 30 > people and pay about half of that amount to trainer. 30 is kind of high for a tutorial. I suggest dropping it to 20. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 08:47:48 2013 From: dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com (Dhruv Baldawa) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:17:48 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: <87zjwnrwrp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87zjwnrwrp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: +1 for either Armin Ronacher or Alex -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > me kracekumar writes: > > > Heroku offers travel grants for Kenneth AFAIK. If his availability is > > confirmed and travel is sponsored. Armin or Alex can be > > sponsored. That will have three key note speakers. > > That will dilute the value of the "keynote". We should stick to two (one > per day) rather than try to pull in as many people as possible. > > [...] > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 08:55:50 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:25:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > We need to roll out CFP soon. Before that we need to finalize how we are > > planning to have tutorials. > > > > Tutorials didn't work out very well last year. We had newbies submitting > > tutorials. One tutorial speaker didn't turn up and many were not up to > the > > mark. > > > > One of the ideas to improve it is to have only experienced trainers give > > these trainings and we pay these trainers for their efforts. > > Yes. Tutorials have to be specially screened. No first time tutorials > and only people who do training. Not a first timer. They'll also need to > submit all their material and slides upfront. This will be possible only > if it's already ready. > > We can use our discretion for specific cases if we deem it fit but the > general rule stands. > > A small number of good tutorials (or talks for that matter) is better > than a large number of average/bad ones. > > Meta Refresh this time had a single track I think and from the vibes, it > will well received. > > > Instead of keeping one flat fee for attending tutorials, we can have > > fee for each tutorial and people will have to pay for each tutorial > > that they want to attend. This helps in keep the number of attendees > > in each training in control and we can plan the logistics better. > > > > I suggest keep Rs. 1500 for each training, limit each training to 30 > > people and pay about half of that amount to trainer. > > 30 is kind of high for a tutorial. I suggest dropping it to 20. > I'm fine with 20, but I was trying to see if we can meet the costs. We've booked Nimhans even for the tutorials day. All it has is auditorium with 800, 500, 300 capacity and couple of small rooms and open space. Unfortunately we'll have use the same auditoriums for the training as well. We can use these smaller rooms and convert the open spaces into a tutorial space. Having 20 people sitting in a auditorium of 800 capacity looks a bit weird. But since we've already booked it, we'll have to live with it. Assuming that we have 10 tutorials sessions (5 in the morning and 5 in the after noon) and 20 people for session we'll get 10*20*1500 = 3L. Out of which we are planning to pay half of it to the trainers. So it doesn't even meet the cost of the venue. That was one of the reasons why I though 30 might be a compromise. I agree to your view that we should focus improving the quality than reducing the costs. We can always raise more sponsorships to meet the costs. So, shall we finalize on 20 seats per training session? Is Rs. 1500/- good amount for tutorial fee? Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From versesane at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 09:01:02 2013 From: versesane at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:31:02 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Gave a Tutorial at Pycon Singapore 2012 and here are few observations and thoughts a) Ask for the tutorial slides to be submitted when abstract is being submitted. Helps get fewer and serious speakers submitting proposals, b) Assign 2 Volunteers or those responsible for screening to have a talk over email/phone and check/verify the credentials of those speakers, c) Ask code and development environment, hardware/OS prerequisite details to be submitted atleast 2-3 weeks in advance, d) Advanced Talks saw some companies getting whole team to come and attend when keynote speakers are giving tutorials talks thus encourage them to speak, Just curious How much would people pay for the tutorial talks ?. If we don't have a flat fee how is the fee determined. On 4/25/13, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> We need to roll out CFP soon. Before that we need to finalize how we are >> planning to have tutorials. >> >> Tutorials didn't work out very well last year. We had newbies submitting >> tutorials. One tutorial speaker didn't turn up and many were not up to >> the >> mark. >> >> One of the ideas to improve it is to have only experienced trainers give >> these trainings and we pay these trainers for their efforts. > > Yes. Tutorials have to be specially screened. No first time tutorials > and only people who do training. Not a first timer. They'll also need to > submit all their material and slides upfront. This will be possible only > if it's already ready. > > We can use our discretion for specific cases if we deem it fit but the > general rule stands. > > A small number of good tutorials (or talks for that matter) is better > than a large number of average/bad ones. > > Meta Refresh this time had a single track I think and from the vibes, it > will well received. > >> Instead of keeping one flat fee for attending tutorials, we can have >> fee for each tutorial and people will have to pay for each tutorial >> that they want to attend. This helps in keep the number of attendees >> in each training in control and we can plan the logistics better. >> >> I suggest keep Rs. 1500 for each training, limit each training to 30 >> people and pay about half of that amount to trainer. > > 30 is kind of high for a tutorial. I suggest dropping it to 20. > > [...] > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Apr 25 09:17:03 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:47:03 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:25:50 +0530") References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Anand Chitipothu writes: [...] > I'm fine with 20, but I was trying to see if we can meet the costs. > > We've booked Nimhans even for the tutorials day. All it has is > auditorium with 800, 500, 300 capacity and couple of small rooms and > open space. Unfortunately we'll have use the same auditoriums for the > training as well. We can use these smaller rooms and convert the open > spaces into a tutorial space. Why can't we use the small rooms for the tutorials? Can't they accomodate 20 people? > Having 20 people sitting in a auditorium of 800 capacity looks a bit weird. > But since we've already booked it, we'll have to live with it. > > Assuming that we have 10 tutorials sessions (5 in the morning and 5 in > the after noon) and 20 people for session we'll get 10*20*1500 = 3L. So, 5 tutorial tracks then? One morning session and one afternoon session. Is that the plan? > Out of which we are planning to pay half of it to the trainers. So it > doesn't even meet the cost of the venue. That was one of the reasons > why I though 30 might be a compromise. I agree to your view that we > should focus improving the quality than reducing the costs. We can > always raise more sponsorships to meet the costs. I think that's better. Let's not compromise on quality due to budget problems. But since we've already booked the venue, is the money factor *that* important? > So, shall we finalize on 20 seats per training session? Is Rs. 1500/- > good amount for tutorial fee? Sounds good to me but if we have a cash crunch, I think raising it to 2k will work too. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From benignbala at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 10:11:39 2013 From: benignbala at gmail.com (Balachandran Sivakumar) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:41:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Sounds good to me but if we have a cash crunch, I think raising it to > 2k will work too. > If we are anticipating student participation in these sessions, then higher fee might be a deterrent. I think we should keep it around Rs 1000-1500. Thanks -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignbala at gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 10:41:56 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:11:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > > > [...] > > > I'm fine with 20, but I was trying to see if we can meet the costs. > > > > We've booked Nimhans even for the tutorials day. All it has is > > auditorium with 800, 500, 300 capacity and couple of small rooms and > > open space. Unfortunately we'll have use the same auditoriums for the > > training as well. We can use these smaller rooms and convert the open > > spaces into a tutorial space. > > Why can't we use the small rooms for the tutorials? Can't they > accomodate 20 people? > The are only 3 small rooms available at NIMHANS. The one in the ground floor might be too small for training session. > Having 20 people sitting in a auditorium of 800 capacity looks a bit > weird. > > But since we've already booked it, we'll have to live with it. > > > > Assuming that we have 10 tutorials sessions (5 in the morning and 5 in > > the after noon) and 20 people for session we'll get 10*20*1500 = 3L. > > So, 5 tutorial tracks then? One morning session and one afternoon > session. Is that the plan? > Yes, thats the plan. We'll have to visit the venue and plan before finalizing the final numbers. > > Out of which we are planning to pay half of it to the trainers. So it > > doesn't even meet the cost of the venue. That was one of the reasons > > why I though 30 might be a compromise. I agree to your view that we > > should focus improving the quality than reducing the costs. We can > > always raise more sponsorships to meet the costs. > > I think that's better. Let's not compromise on quality due to budget > problems. But since we've already booked the venue, is the money factor > *that* important? > I think we are doing well on finances. We don't have to worry much about it. > > So, shall we finalize on 20 seats per training session? Is Rs. 1500/- > > good amount for tutorial fee? > > Sounds good to me but if we have a cash crunch, I think raising it to > 2k will work too. > I think 1500 should be good enough. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at bibhas.in Thu Apr 25 10:35:51 2013 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:05:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage them to attend any. Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough volunteers free for that. ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 25 April 2013 13:41, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > > Sounds good to me but if we have a cash crunch, I think raising it to > > 2k will work too. > > > > If we are anticipating student participation in these sessions, > then higher fee might be a deterrent. I think we should keep it around > Rs 1000-1500. Thanks > > -- > Thank you > Balachandran Sivakumar > > Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. > - Swami > Vivekananda > > Mail: benignbala at gmail.com > Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If someone good had a tutorial on writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is similarly good, it'll be a success. I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that "everyone" can attend. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 10:53:03 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:23:03 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* 1.5k/2k > for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage them to attend > any. > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and checking > tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough volunteers > free for that. > I think we need to have tickets per session. Last year, people signed up for tutorials without worrying about which sessions to attend and joined random sessions. The plan is to force people to decide which session they want to attend, if they want to attend at all. Keeping a fee per session will make sure only the serious people will attend. Yes, we need one assistant per session. We need to work on it. I agree that it might be a bit expensive for students. I'm not sure what to do about it. Shall we consider student discounts? Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > > > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* > > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage > > them to attend any. > > > > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and > > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough > > volunteers free for that. > > [...] > > We need to clarify this. > > The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced > speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not > necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on > writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to > attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people > don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving > a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the > audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is > similarly good, it'll be a success. > > I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a > talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I > want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along > with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. > > Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do > something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that > "everyone" can attend. > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 11:01:24 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:31:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > I am all for paying to attend a training session that is of value to me. > Unrelated to that, is it okay to pay the trainers? Shouldn't pycon be a > pure volunteer effort as per the psf guidelines? I have a vague memory of > reading it somewhere. The organizers know best, just clarifying.. > PyCon India is still pure volunteer effort. The organizers/volunteers don't make any money. Even US PyCon pays honorarium of 1500 USD to each tutorial speaker. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's not > necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on > writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to > attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people > don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving > a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the > audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is > similarly good, it'll be a success. > > I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a > talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I > want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along > with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. > > Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do > something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that > "everyone" can attend. > +1 Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Apr 25 11:04:15 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:34:15 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Workshops/Tutorials (was: Tutorials) In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:23:03 +0530") References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> It occurs to me that we're trying to imitate the format of the US PyCon - a separate tutorial day with tutorials being very different from talks. Some of us who have attended that conference know how it works but I think the intentions are not clear here. I think "workshop" conveys more clearly what we're trying to do. We need to mention this clearly to all the participants in the email we send out as well as in the CFP. Thoughts? Anand Chitipothu writes: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > >> If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* 1.5k/2k >> for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage them to attend >> any. >> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and checking >> tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough volunteers >> free for that. >> > > I think we need to have tickets per session. Last year, people signed up > for tutorials without worrying about which sessions to attend and joined > random sessions. The plan is to force people to decide which session they > want to attend, if they want to attend at all. Keeping a fee per session > will make sure only the serious people will attend. > > Yes, we need one assistant per session. We need to work on it. > > I agree that it might be a bit expensive for students. I'm not sure what to > do about it. Shall we consider student discounts? > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 11:06:12 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:36:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Workshops/Tutorials (was: Tutorials) In-Reply-To: <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > It occurs to me that we're trying to imitate the format of the US > PyCon - a separate tutorial day with tutorials being very different from > talks. > > Some of us who have attended that conference know how it works but I > think the intentions are not clear here. > > I think "workshop" conveys more clearly what we're trying to do. We need > to mention this clearly to all the participants in the email we send out > as well as in the CFP. > > Thoughts? > +1 I was about to reply to your previous email and suggest the same. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From modi.konark at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 11:24:01 2013 From: modi.konark at gmail.com (konark modi) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:54:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but unable to frame an idea around it . The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk / tutorial for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at previous PyCon and how they can be different. Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing the session. Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not needed to deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how they are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback to help them manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better. Interesting group : http://speakup.io/ Regards Konark Modi On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: >> >> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* >> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage >> > them to attend any. >> > >> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and >> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough >> > volunteers free for that. >> >> [...] >> >> We need to clarify this. >> >> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced >> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not >> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on >> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to >> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people >> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving >> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the >> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is >> similarly good, it'll be a success. >> >> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a >> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I >> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along >> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. >> >> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do >> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that >> "everyone" can attend. >> > > +1 > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at bibhas.in Thu Apr 25 11:24:50 2013 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:54:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Workshops/Tutorials (was: Tutorials) In-Reply-To: <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Yes, "Workshop" is better. Yes, we need to explicitly make people understand that they are paying for the quality of the content and experience of the speaker. So that there is no confusion. Maybe restrict workshop topic to more things that are hard to learn just by Googling. So that people are more compelled to look forward to an expert opinion. And introducing student discount might help us avoid any negative feedback from student community, just because of the price. On 25 April 2013 14:34, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > It occurs to me that we're trying to imitate the format of the US > PyCon - a separate tutorial day with tutorials being very different from > talks. > > Some of us who have attended that conference know how it works but I > think the intentions are not clear here. > > I think "workshop" conveys more clearly what we're trying to do. We need > to mention this clearly to all the participants in the email we send out > as well as in the CFP. > > Thoughts? > > Anand Chitipothu writes: > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > > > >> If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* 1.5k/2k > >> for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage them to > attend > >> any. > >> > > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and checking > >> tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough volunteers > >> free for that. > >> > > > > I think we need to have tickets per session. Last year, people signed up > > for tutorials without worrying about which sessions to attend and joined > > random sessions. The plan is to force people to decide which session they > > want to attend, if they want to attend at all. Keeping a fee per session > > will make sure only the serious people will attend. > > > > Yes, we need one assistant per session. We need to work on it. > > > > I agree that it might be a bit expensive for students. I'm not sure what > to > > do about it. Shall we consider student discounts? > > > > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kushal From kushaldas at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 12:09:08 2013 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:39:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Workshops/Tutorials (was: Tutorials) In-Reply-To: <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87fvyfq8vk.fsf_-_@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > It occurs to me that we're trying to imitate the format of the US > PyCon - a separate tutorial day with tutorials being very different from > talks. > > Some of us who have attended that conference know how it works but I > think the intentions are not clear here. > > I think "workshop" conveys more clearly what we're trying to do. We need > to mention this clearly to all the participants in the email we send out > as well as in the CFP. Yes, mention it clearly that these are workshops. Kushal From anandology at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 12:09:26 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:39:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Updated Sponsorship Prospectus Message-ID: Hi, I made a small update to sponsorship prospectus. It had "logo on swag kit" as benefit to platinum sponsor, I've replaced it with "Logo on the notebooks given to participants". Last year, we had to negotiate with our platinum sponsor to change this benefit as we didn't go with a swag bag. The updated sponsorship prospectus is available at: http://in.pycon.org/2013/static/pyconindia2013-sponsorship-prospectus.pdf Please use this when showing it to all our potential platinum sponsors. :) Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Apr 25 13:09:16 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:39:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: (konark modi's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:54:01 +0530") References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87vc7aq337.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> While a good idea, I don't think *helping* people with presentations falls into the conference agenda. It's probably something that fits in very well with local user groups though. They can hold this kind of thing to polish talks and get them out. konark modi writes: > Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where > willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas > they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but > unable to frame an idea around it . > > The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how > can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk / tutorial > for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at > previous PyCon and how they can be different. > > Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve > content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing the > session. > > Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not > needed to deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how they > are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback to help them > manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better. > > Interesting group : http://speakup.io/ > > Regards > Konark Modi > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >>> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: >>> >>> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* >>> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage >>> > them to attend any. >>> > >>> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and >>> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough >>> > volunteers free for that. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> We need to clarify this. >>> >>> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced >>> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not >>> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on >>> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to >>> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people >>> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving >>> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the >>> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is >>> similarly good, it'll be a success. >>> >>> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a >>> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I >>> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along >>> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. >>> >>> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do >>> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that >>> "everyone" can attend. >>> >> >> +1 >> >> Anand >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From jace at pobox.com Thu Apr 25 15:13:49 2013 From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:43:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: <87zjwnrwrp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87zjwnrwrp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > That will dilute the value of the "keynote". We should stick to two (one > per day) rather than try to pull in as many people as possible. > You could have end-of-day keynotes like FOSS.IN has. That'll ensure people stay through the day. Kiran -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.zaiki.in http://hasgeek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From versesane at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 15:21:04 2013 From: versesane at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:51:04 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87zjwnrwrp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: >> >> That will dilute the value of the "keynote". We should stick to two (one >> per day) rather than try to pull in as many people as possible. > > > You could have end-of-day keynotes like FOSS.IN has. That'll ensure people > stay through the day. +1 > > Kiran > > > -- > Kiran Jonnalagadda > http://jace.zaiki.in > http://hasgeek.com > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in From modi.konark at gmail.com Thu Apr 25 15:40:51 2013 From: modi.konark at gmail.com (konark modi) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 19:10:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: <87vc7aq337.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87vc7aq337.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: I agree with both of you. While the idea here is to improve the quality of talks / workshops we need to bridge the gap between submitting proposal and delivering the talk, and certainly not making it a mandate but instead for people who are looking for some sort of guidance / mentoring . If local groups (which apparently are not that active apart from few cities) can help out, would be great. But was just proposing an idea if we could think of a way out of getting this thing under the Umbrella of PyCon India. Regards Konark On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > While a good idea, I don't think *helping* people with presentations falls > into the conference agenda. > > It's probably something that fits in very well with local user groups > though. They can hold this kind of thing to polish talks and get them > out. > > konark modi writes: > > > Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where > > willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas > > they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but > > unable to frame an idea around it . > > > > The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how > > can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk / > tutorial > > for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at > > previous PyCon and how they can be different. > > > > Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve > > content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing > the > > session. > > > > Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not > > needed to deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how > they > > are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback to help them > > manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better. > > > > Interesting group : http://speakup.io/ > > > > Regards > > Konark Modi > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu >wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim >wrote: > >> > >>> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > >>> > >>> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* > >>> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage > >>> > them to attend any. > >>> > > >>> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and > >>> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough > >>> > volunteers free for that. > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> We need to clarify this. > >>> > >>> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced > >>> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not > >>> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on > >>> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to > >>> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people > >>> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving > >>> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the > >>> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is > >>> similarly good, it'll be a success. > >>> > >>> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a > >>> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. > I > >>> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along > >>> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. > >>> > >>> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do > >>> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that > >>> "everyone" can attend. > >>> > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> Anand > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inpycon mailing list > >> Inpycon at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also included a brief bio/list of projects they're famous for. ? - Armin Ronacher - Flask, pocco projects. ? - Kenneth Reitz - Requests and other "for humans" alternatives to stdlib. ? - Alex Gaynor - PyPy and optimisation in general. ? - Steve Holden - PSF ? - Van Lindberg - PSF ? - Hilary Mason - bit.ly (we invited her last year but she had other engagements). In addition to this, we have one other invited speaker. ? - Joe Gibbs (of the lambda-py project). I don't want to this democratically (via voting) but it would be nice to have some discussion. We'll zero in on someone by the middle of next week and I'll invite them formally. Time is running short and we need to make a decision. I'm personally for inviting Hilary Mason. She's technically strong, active in the startup community and was a keynote speaker at PyCon in Atlanta. In addition to this, we tried to invite her last year and she was interested but couldn't because of a schedule conflict. Steve Holden and Van Lindberg can speak from a PSF/community perspective. The others are technically strong and from what I know, good speakers. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also included > a brief bio/list of projects they're famous for. > > - Armin Ronacher - Flask, pocco projects. > - Kenneth Reitz - Requests and other "for humans" alternatives to stdlib. > - Alex Gaynor - PyPy and optimisation in general. > - Steve Holden - PSF > - Van Lindberg - PSF > - Hilary Mason - bit.ly (we invited her last year but she had other > engagements). > > In addition to this, we have one other invited speaker. > > - Joe Gibbs (of the lambda-py project). > > > I don't want to this democratically (via voting) but it would be nice to > have some discussion. We'll zero in on someone by the middle of next > week and I'll invite them formally. Time is running short and we need to > make a decision. > > I'm personally for inviting Hilary Mason. She's technically strong, > active in the startup community and was a keynote speaker at PyCon in > Atlanta. In addition to this, we tried to invite her last year and she > was interested but couldn't because of a schedule conflict. > > Steve Holden and Van Lindberg can speak from a PSF/community perspective. > > The others are technically strong and from what I know, good speakers. > > I like to vote for Kenneth Reitz and Hilary Mason. I would be great if Hilary Mason come in pycon india 2013. Thanks, With Best Wishes, Chandan Kumar Final Year, Computer Science and Engineering Dr.B.C.Roy Engineering College, Durgapur https://ciypro.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 26 17:33:33 2013 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:33:33 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87vc7aq337.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <1366990413.78393.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> My Take on tutorial 1) Let say it as workshop then tutorial.( we need to even provide list of thing they need to bring ?to avoid complaint as last year) 2) I would say keep price to 1000 as this itself will be more for student( we need more student to attend). For corporate let make there fee to be 1500 rupees. 3) As we have big enough hall why restrict number ?. If we?strictly?want to?restrict?then let have 50 as it will help trainer and pycon both. 4) About selection of trainer we need to looks for?their?presentation?skill/?previous?experience rather then putting?criteria?no first time. With Thanks Vijay ________________________________ From: konark modi To: Noufal Ibrahim Cc: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Tutorials I agree with both of you. While the idea here is to improve the quality of talks / workshops we need to bridge the gap between submitting proposal and delivering the talk, and certainly not making it a mandate but instead for people who are looking for some sort of guidance / mentoring . If local groups (which apparently are not that active apart from few cities) can help out, would be great. But was just?proposing?an idea if we could think of a way out of getting this thing under the Umbrella of PyCon India. Regards Konark On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >While a good idea, I don't think *helping* people with presentations falls >into the conference agenda. > >It's probably something that fits in very well with local user groups >though. They can hold this kind of thing to polish talks and get them >out. > > >konark modi writes: > >> Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where >> willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas >> they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but >> unable to frame an idea around it . >> >> ?The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how >> can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk / tutorial >> for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at >> previous PyCon and how they can be different. >> >> Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve >> content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing the >> session. >> >> Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not >> needed to ?deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how they >> are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback ?to help them >> manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better. >> >> Interesting group : http://speakup.io/ >> >> Regards >> Konark Modi >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>> >>>> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: >>>> >>>> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think* >>>> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage >>>> > them to attend any. >>>> > >>>> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and >>>> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough >>>> > volunteers free for that. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> We need to clarify this. >>>> >>>> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced >>>> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not >>>> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on >>>> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to >>>> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people >>>> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving >>>> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the >>>> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is >>>> similarly good, it'll be a success. >>>> >>>> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a >>>> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic. I >>>> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along >>>> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience. >>>> >>>> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do >>>> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that >>>> "everyone" can attend. >>>> >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> Anand >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > >-- >Cordially, >Noufal >http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For corporate let make there fee to be > 1500 rupees. > I think we can keep the price at Rs. 1500 and have 5 seats with student discount rate of Rs. 1000/- 3) As we have big enough hall why restrict number ?. If we strictly want > to restrict then let have 50 as it will help trainer and pycon both. > It is very difficult to give personal attention when there are more than 15-20 people. So to have a quality workshop, we need to keep the numbers low. > 4) About selection of trainer we need to looks > for their presentation skill/ previous experience rather then > putting criteria no first time. > Absolutely! We need only experienced people with proven speaking history. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 26 18:32:19 2013 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:32:19 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Tutorials In-Reply-To: References: <87haivruer.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87a9onrseo.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87r4hzq9fj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87vc7aq337.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1366990413.78393.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1366993939.2225.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Agreed . if no more suggestion, let freeze it. With Thanks Vijay ________________________________ From: Anand Chitipothu To: vijay ; Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Friday, 26 April 2013 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Tutorials On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:03 PM, vijay wrote: My Take on tutorial >1) Let say it as workshop then tutorial.( we need to even provide list of thing they need to bring ?to avoid complaint as last year) >2) I would say keep price to 1000 as this itself will be more for student( we need more student to attend). For corporate let make there fee to be 1500 rupees. I think we can keep the price at Rs. 1500 and have 5 seats with student discount rate of Rs. 1000/- 3) As we have big enough hall why restrict number ?. If we?strictly?want to?restrict?then let have 50 as it will help trainer and pycon both. It is very difficult to give personal attention when there are more than 15-20 people. So to have a quality workshop, we need to keep the numbers low. ? 4) About selection of trainer we need to looks for?their?presentation?skill/?previous?experience rather then putting?criteria?no first time. Absolutely! We need only experienced people with proven speaking history. Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 27 08:30:16 2013 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:30:16 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] First Gold and Silver sponsor's for pycon 2013 Message-ID: <1367044216.9797.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, Good news! Enthought?is our first?Gold sponsor.? Projectplace?is our first?Silver sponsor. http://in.pycon.org/2013/ Thanks?Enthought?and?Projectplace?for supporting PyCon India. Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Sat Apr 27 08:38:17 2013 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:08:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] First Gold and Silver sponsor's for pycon 2013 In-Reply-To: <1367044216.9797.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> (vijay's message of "Sat, 27 Apr 2013 14:30:16 +0800 (SGT)") References: <1367044216.9797.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87wqrofpgm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Capital! vijay writes: > Hello everyone, > > Good news! > > Enthought?is our first?Gold sponsor.? > Projectplace?is our first?Silver sponsor. > > http://in.pycon.org/2013/ > > Thanks?Enthought?and?Projectplace?for supporting PyCon India. > > Vijay > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Apr 30 14:24:52 2013 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand B Pillai) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:54:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] First Gold and Silver sponsor's for pycon 2013 In-Reply-To: <87wqrofpgm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <1367044216.9797.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87wqrofpgm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Very good! :) On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Capital! > > vijay writes: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Good news! > > > > Enthought is our first Gold sponsor. > > Projectplace is our first Silver sponsor. > > > > http://in.pycon.org/2013/ > > > > Thanks Enthought and Projectplace for supporting PyCon India. > > > > Vijay > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm planning to send the emails at the end of the week. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Tue Apr 30 17:41:23 2013 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:11:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 In-Reply-To: <87wqrk2nrr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fvyftcvj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87wqrk2nrr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > This is my take away from the discussion. I'm going to ask the people in > this list and based on availability invite the first two. > We already have one keynote speaker confirmed. So we need to invite just one. > 1. Hilary Mason > 2. Armin Ronacher > 3. Kenneth Reitz > 4. Alex Gaynor > > Any objections? The list looks good to me. > Would it be a good idea to invite someone from the PSF? > Steve Holden or Van Lindberg as well? > I'm not sure. 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Sent on my BlackBerry? from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: Anand Chitipothu Sender: "Inpycon" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:11:23 To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Reply-To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers for PyCon India 2013 _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Apr 30 21:40:15 2013 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand B Pillai) Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 01:10:15 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] [OFF-TOPIC] New PSF member Message-ID: Hi all, Slightly off-topic but wanted to inform the list that Kushal Das has been elected to PSF board member roster this year. Congrats Kushal! Ref: http://www.python.org/psf/members/ -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The list looks good. > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: