From vsapre80 at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 07:44:53 2011 From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:14:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] what would be the scheduled timings be?... Message-ID: Hello, I am planning my departure from Pune on 18th September. What would be the timings for the conference...same as last year? Also when would the schedule be up...tentatively...? Help would be highly appreciated... best regards, Vishal Sapre -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Tue Sep 6 08:23:38 2011 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:53:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue for 2012 Message-ID: Hello everyone, This is a little premature perhaps but given that we a significant amount of time last 3 years on selecting the venue, I think it might be a good idea to throw this into the wild right now. Anand P. and I chatted about this a while ago and I'm for opening up the discussion right now as well. Getting this semi-finalised would mean more time to actually do the conference. The default location would be Pune based on the 2 years in one city "policy" but constructive opposing views are welcome. If the stakeholders for the various cities are coming to Pune, we could spend some time after the AGM to trash this out as well. Thanks! -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 08:54:23 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:24:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Need APs/ Routers Message-ID: All, We need access to a large number of access points / routers for Wifi connectivity during PyCon. It would be greatly helpful if you can lend one or a few for the duration (for out of town visitors if you could carry them in and out during the visit as well). The list of APs/routers is specified below. These are going to be particularly helpful. We can do with other models as well but only with a much higher configuration overhead. What I would request you to do is to let me know if you can help lend the same for the conference (either those in this list or others). The routers will ideally be required from Thursday evening through Sunday night. For out of town - we can adjust as per the travel schedules. Suggest that you respond in the following format (kindly send the mail to me rather than to the whole list to avoid spamming the list). Out of Pune contributors - I shall let you know by Wednesday early morning if we need you to carry the same with you. If we can get the same from within pune, there is no point in you having to carry it. a. Name of Person b. Router Model Number c. Location: In Pune / Out of Pune d. If Out of Pune - time when you reach pune, and time when you shall need to leave the venue. Thanks Dhananjay ========= List of Wireless Mesh compatible APs/routers ============== Easiest of the lot is "Apple Airport Express" & "Apple Airport Extreme" D-Link DWL-7700AP DWL-3200AP Linksys WRT54G WRE54G WAG54G WAP54G Netgear WNDR3300 WNR3500 WNR834Bv2 DG834Gv3 DG834Gv4 WNHDE111 From navin.kabra at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 10:52:11 2011 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:22:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: PyCon India Pune : Accommodation Wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI. Initiative of someone from Mumbai who's getting lots of queries... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Raxit Sheth Date: Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:07 PM Subject: [PuneStartups] PyCon India Pune : Accommodation Wiki To: PuneStartups , Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List , BarCampMumbai2 , BarcampAhmedabad , barcampahmedabadplanners at googlegroups.com, bangaloreocc , bangalore_barcamp at yahoogroups.com, HeadStart Network , mumpy at googlegroups.com Hey Having couple of query about acco for pycon india. Not able to find any good place, so put up a wiki, Here. ?Good Hotels costs more so here is the wiki page, http://www.m4mum.com/pycon If you are looking for acco during pyconindia @ pune ?Or ? If you can able to provide accommodation, ?please ?have a look at above link, Collaborate ! Please pass this info to relevant audi via T,F,B etc If you are from Pune, I am sure you will find some way to accommodate many of python dude(tte) :) Raxit Sheth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PuneStartups" group. Is this group moderated? - Messages from new members are moderated for the first few weeks. - Do not post jobs here! Job posters will be unsubscribed immediately. To post to this group, send email to punestartups at googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to punestartups+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/punestartups?hl=en Pune's * Startups - http://groups.google.com/group/punestartups * OpenCoffee Club - http://punestartups.org * Tech - http://punetech.com/ * Startup Jobs - http://groups.google.com/group/punestartupjobs * Students - http://groups.google.co.in/group/pocc-students From noufal at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 15:02:35 2011 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:32:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: PyCon India Pune : Accommodation Wiki In-Reply-To: (Navin Kabra's message of "Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:22:11 +0530") References: Message-ID: <8762l0h7o4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Can you put this up on the wiki Anand? Navin Kabra writes: > FYI. > Initiative of someone from Mumbai who's getting lots of queries... > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Raxit Sheth > Date: Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:07 PM > Subject: [PuneStartups] PyCon India Pune : Accommodation Wiki > To: PuneStartups , Pune GNU/Linux Users > Group Mailing List , BarCampMumbai2 > , BarcampAhmedabad > , > barcampahmedabadplanners at googlegroups.com, bangaloreocc > , bangalore_barcamp at yahoogroups.com, > HeadStart Network , > mumpy at googlegroups.com > > > Hey > > Having couple of query about acco for pycon india. Not able to find > any good place, so put up a wiki, Here. ?Good Hotels costs more so > here is the wiki page, > > http://www.m4mum.com/pycon > > If you are looking for acco during pyconindia @ pune ?Or ? If you can > able to provide accommodation, ?please ?have a look at above link, > Collaborate ! > > Please pass this info to relevant audi via T,F,B etc > > > If you are from Pune, I am sure you will find some way to accommodate > many of python dude(tte) :) > > > > > Raxit Sheth > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "PuneStartups" group. > > Is this group moderated? > - Messages from new members are moderated for the first few weeks. > - Do not post jobs here! Job posters will be unsubscribed immediately. > > To post to this group, send email to punestartups at googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > punestartups+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/punestartups?hl=en > > Pune's > * Startups - http://groups.google.com/group/punestartups > * OpenCoffee Club - http://punestartups.org > * Tech - http://punetech.com/ > * Startup Jobs - http://groups.google.com/group/punestartupjobs > * Students - http://groups.google.co.in/group/pocc-students > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in Pompeii From anandology at gmail.com Sat Sep 10 15:34:16 2011 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:04:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: PyCon India Pune : Accommodation Wiki In-Reply-To: <8762l0h7o4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <8762l0h7o4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: 2011/9/10 Noufal Ibrahim : > > Can you put this up on the wiki Anand? I can. Is it okay to put emails and phone numbers on the website? Anand From steve at holdenweb.com Sat Sep 10 20:12:09 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Inpycon] Need APs/ Routers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please do not assume that all you need to do to service a dense conference audience with wireless is to saturate the space with access points connected to a backbone. In my experience academic venues are usually more flexible and better-supported than most hotel venues. PyCon US has considerable experience building infrastructure such as that, and Sean Reifschneider has developed what seems to me to be an almost turnkey system. Sean has written about this, and his work may be of interest. Perhaps he will have time to If you would like to consider duplicating the PyCon US "network conference setup" package I understand that resources maybe a problem. Should that be the case I would *strongly* encourage you to apply to the PSF for funding to help you build such a facility -- if not for this year then perhaps for next. regards Steve PS: I was lucky for the first three PyCons in the US to fall on an academic venue that had just refreshed its entire network infrastructure. But even when networking is bad the ability to meet with people face-to-face will mostly override annoyances about inadequate wireless. Good luck!!!!!!!!!! S On Sep 9, 2011, at 11:54 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > All, > > We need access to a large number of access points / routers for Wifi > connectivity during PyCon. It would be greatly helpful if you can lend > one or a few for the duration (for out of town visitors if you could > carry them in and out during the visit as well). The list of > APs/routers is specified below. These are going to be particularly > helpful. We can do with other models as well but only with a much > higher configuration overhead. What I would request you to do is to > let me know if you can help lend the same for the conference (either > those in this list or others). The routers will ideally be required > from Thursday evening through Sunday night. For out of town - we can > adjust as per the travel schedules. > > Suggest that you respond in the following format (kindly send the mail > to me rather than to the whole list to avoid spamming the list). Out > of Pune contributors - I shall let you know by Wednesday early morning > if we need you to carry the same with you. If we can get the same from > within pune, there is no point in you having to carry it. > > a. Name of Person > b. Router Model Number > c. Location: In Pune / Out of Pune > d. If Out of Pune - time when you reach pune, and time when you shall > need to leave the venue. > > Thanks > Dhananjay > > ========= List of Wireless Mesh compatible APs/routers ============== > > Easiest of the lot is "Apple Airport Express" & "Apple Airport Extreme" > > D-Link > DWL-7700AP > DWL-3200AP > > > Linksys > WRT54G > WRE54G > WAG54G > WAP54G > > > Netgear > WNDR3300 > WNR3500 > WNR834Bv2 > DG834Gv3 > DG834Gv4 > WNHDE111 > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin.kabra at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 06:52:14 2011 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:22:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Help PyCon by buying an Airport Express or Airport Extreme at Rs. 1000 discount In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, As youmight be aware, because of a last-minute vendor backout, we're having trouble with setting up Wi-Fi for PyCon (the python international conference, in Pune on 16/17/18 Sept). We're alsking everyone to lend us Wi-Fi access points / routers for the days of the conference. In the meantime, we have also worked out a deal with a vendor in Pune. If anyone is willing to buy an Apple Airport Express wi-fi router, or an Apple Airport Extreme wi-fi router-cum-media center-cum-file server, the vendor will give a Rs. 1000 discount, if you agree to let that device be used for PyCon. In this deal, you get the Airport Express for Rs. 5k instead of the usual price of Rs. 6k, and the Airport Extreme for Rs. 10k instead of the usual Rs. 11k. Help the community, and get a discount on an excellent product. Please get in touch with me (navin.kabra @ gtalk, 98220 20096) if you're interested. Thanks. (Of course, if you have a regular Wi-Fi router and could lend it to us for the days of the conference, we're still interested. Contact me. Thanks). Please forward this to other relevant mailing lists that you might be aware of. From lawgon at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 09:32:53 2011 From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:02:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] lightening talks? Message-ID: <1315812776.1791.8.camel@xlquest.web> what are these? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves From steve at holdenweb.com Mon Sep 12 09:40:05 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:40:05 -0700 Subject: [Inpycon] lightening talks? In-Reply-To: <1315812776.1791.8.camel@xlquest.web> References: <1315812776.1791.8.camel@xlquest.web> Message-ID: Lightning talks are talks with a maximum duration of five minutes. They are long enough for an experienced speaker to make a couple of good points, and short enough that they don't unduly intimidate a new speaker. If you need more information, ask on the pycon-organizers list. regards Steve On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > what are these? > -- > regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawgon at gmail.com Mon Sep 12 09:54:33 2011 From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:24:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] IPSS AGM Message-ID: <1315814076.1791.13.camel@xlquest.web> hi, on behalf of the IPSS I invite all delegates to the conference to attend the AGM and extend their support to the society and give suggestions as how to run it better. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves From navin.kabra at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 13:05:58 2011 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:35:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Pycon Directions to Venue & Parking Information Message-ID: Hi All, See below for a short note on information about how to get to the venue and where to park. This is going up on the PyCon blog/website soon. Currently, it does not contain any information about public transportation (other than rickshaw). If anyone is able to create/compile that information, please send it to me so it can be included in the post. Venue Information The venue for PyCon 2011 is Symbiosis Vishwabhavan, Senapati Bapat Road (aka SB Road), Pune. Track 1 is at the Auditorium at Symbiosis Vishwabhavan. Track 2 & 3 are in Symbiosis Law College which is an adjacent building in the same campus. There is no parking at the venue. Instead, parking space has been arranged at Symbiosis' Ambedkar Bhavan (also known as Ambedkar Museum & Memorial) which is about 150m from the main venue. Please keep that in mind when you're coming. Directions If you're coming by Rickshaw, tell them that you want to go to Symbiosis Vishwabhavan, on Senapati Bapat Road (SB Road). Symbiosis Vishwabhavan is a prominent landmark on SB Road, just a few hundred meters from the junction of SB Road and Law College Road. There is a statue of Laxman's Common man, and flags of various countries mounted at the entrance of Vishwabhavan. If you're coming by your own vehicle, you'll need to park at Ambedkar Bhavan which is opposite the Passport Office on SB Road. If you are coming from University Circle / Chatushrungi, then you will reach Ambedkar Bhavan *before* you reach the main venue. As soon as you cross the signal near the Passport Office (which will be on your right), you will see a big dome shaped structure on your left. This is Ambedkar Bhavan. Go inside and park. Walk the rest of the way to Symbiosis Vishwabhavan. If you are coming from Law College Road / BMCC College side, you will need to keep going past Vishwabhavan. You will pass the Passport Office on your left. Take a U-turn at the signal immediately after Passport Office. After the U-turn, you'll see Ambedkar Bhavan on your left. Maps Main Venue: http://g.co/maps/9zfr3 (Vishwabhavan & Law College) Parking: http://g.co/maps/ub65r (Ambedkar Bhavan) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mehul.n.ved at gmail.com Wed Sep 14 18:29:48 2011 From: mehul.n.ved at gmail.com (Mehul Ved) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:59:48 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Bringing tickets to the venue In-Reply-To: References: <87vcumfu08.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87bowdfyvr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: So, what's the final decision on this? Do we need to print tickets or showing it on my phone will suffice? On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >> Harshad Oak writes: >> >> > With printouts not only does a lot of paper get wasted, but carrying >> > printouts is inconvenient for most delegates. >> > >> > IMHO it's much simpler to just ask people to carry some id, present it >> > at >> > the welcome desk (driving license / PAN / company card... ?) and cross >> > check >> > with the list. There's no good reason for someone to take the trouble of >> > faking an id at an event like Pycon. >> >> [...] >> >> Fair enough. It's just that you're assuming the best of people which is >> not true. >> >> For example, they often ask for different sized T-shirts. With a ticket, >> it's simple and clear. Also, it results in shorted queues when people >> don't have to cross check lists. >> > If t-shirt sizes are the only discriminator (I don't remember anything else) > - we'll just create multiple queues - each queue end having a listing of > people who have requested those t-shirt sizes. The volunteer at the head of > the queue - has a listing of people who have asked for that t-shirt size. > Perhaps may end up requiring an extra volunteer or two but that should allow > them to go ahead even in case of a valid ID in case they haven't got their > tickets. > > In addition if they join the wrong queue because they changed their mind on > the t-shirt size they want or because they forgot the tickets home and can't > quite recollect it - unless there is an extra volunteer readily available - > they have the ultra exclusive privilege to join the next queue again at the > rear :) (this is draconian too - but only in an exception case) > > Dhananjay > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- With Regards, Mehul Ved From anandology at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 05:33:55 2011 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:03:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Need APs/ Routers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dhananjay, I've a WRT54GL. Shall I bring it? Anand 2011/9/10 Dhananjay Nene : > All, > > We need access to a large number of access points / routers for Wifi > connectivity during PyCon. It would be greatly helpful if you can lend > one or a few for the duration (for out of town visitors if you could > carry them in and out during the visit as well). The list of > APs/routers is specified below. These are going to be particularly > helpful. We can do with other models as well but only with a much > higher configuration overhead. What I would request you to do is to > let me know if you can help lend the same for the conference (either > those in this list or others). The routers will ideally be required > from Thursday evening through Sunday night. For out of town - we can > adjust as per the travel schedules. > > Suggest that you respond in the following format (kindly send the mail > to me rather than to the whole list to avoid spamming the list). Out > of Pune contributors - I shall let you know by Wednesday early morning > if we need you to carry the same with you. If we can get the same from > within pune, there is no point in you having to carry it. > > a. Name of Person > b. Router Model Number > c. Location: In Pune / Out of Pune > d. If Out of Pune - time when you reach pune, and time when you shall > need to leave the venue. > > Thanks > Dhananjay > > ========= List of Wireless Mesh compatible APs/routers ============== > > Easiest of the lot is "Apple Airport Express" & "Apple Airport Extreme" > > D-Link > DWL-7700AP > DWL-3200AP > > > Linksys > WRT54G > WRE54G > WAG54G > WAP54G > > > Netgear > WNDR3300 > WNR3500 > WNR834Bv2 > DG834Gv3 > DG834Gv4 > WNHDE111 > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 05:45:43 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:15:43 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Need APs/ Routers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think we have enough. You can leave it back home. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hi Dhananjay, > > I've a WRT54GL. Shall I bring it? > > Anand > > 2011/9/10 Dhananjay Nene : > > All, > > > > We need access to a large number of access points / routers for Wifi > > connectivity during PyCon. It would be greatly helpful if you can lend > > one or a few for the duration (for out of town visitors if you could > > carry them in and out during the visit as well). The list of > > APs/routers is specified below. These are going to be particularly > > helpful. We can do with other models as well but only with a much > > higher configuration overhead. What I would request you to do is to > > let me know if you can help lend the same for the conference (either > > those in this list or others). The routers will ideally be required > > from Thursday evening through Sunday night. For out of town - we can > > adjust as per the travel schedules. > > > > Suggest that you respond in the following format (kindly send the mail > > to me rather than to the whole list to avoid spamming the list). Out > > of Pune contributors - I shall let you know by Wednesday early morning > > if we need you to carry the same with you. If we can get the same from > > within pune, there is no point in you having to carry it. > > > > a. Name of Person > > b. Router Model Number > > c. Location: In Pune / Out of Pune > > d. If Out of Pune - time when you reach pune, and time when you shall > > need to leave the venue. > > > > Thanks > > Dhananjay > > > > ========= List of Wireless Mesh compatible APs/routers ============== > > > > Easiest of the lot is "Apple Airport Express" & "Apple Airport Extreme" > > > > D-Link > > DWL-7700AP > > DWL-3200AP > > > > > > Linksys > > WRT54G > > WRE54G > > WAG54G > > WAP54G > > > > > > Netgear > > WNDR3300 > > WNR3500 > > WNR834Bv2 > > DG834Gv3 > > DG834Gv4 > > WNHDE111 > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 07:04:51 2011 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:34:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. Message-ID: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> It would be useful if we could wrap up the AGM quickly since it's really just a formality and then focus on discussing the conference, next years venue and other things to make the execution smoother next time. Anyone interested is welcome to attend. Opinions? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in After they got rid of capital punishment, they had to hang twice as many people as before. From abpillai at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 13:34:20 2011 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:04:20 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Bringing tickets to the venue In-Reply-To: References: <87vcumfu08.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87bowdfyvr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Mehul Ved wrote: > So, what's the final decision on this? Do we need to print tickets or > showing it on my phone will suffice? > We prefer printed tickets, but showing it on a large clear screen should suffice as well. > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Dhananjay Nene > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > >> > >> Harshad Oak writes: > >> > >> > With printouts not only does a lot of paper get wasted, but carrying > >> > printouts is inconvenient for most delegates. > >> > > >> > IMHO it's much simpler to just ask people to carry some id, present it > >> > at > >> > the welcome desk (driving license / PAN / company card... ) and cross > >> > check > >> > with the list. There's no good reason for someone to take the trouble > of > >> > faking an id at an event like Pycon. > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> Fair enough. It's just that you're assuming the best of people which is > >> not true. > >> > >> For example, they often ask for different sized T-shirts. With a ticket, > >> it's simple and clear. Also, it results in shorted queues when people > >> don't have to cross check lists. > >> > > If t-shirt sizes are the only discriminator (I don't remember anything > else) > > - we'll just create multiple queues - each queue end having a listing of > > people who have requested those t-shirt sizes. The volunteer at the head > of > > the queue - has a listing of people who have asked for that t-shirt size. > > Perhaps may end up requiring an extra volunteer or two but that should > allow > > them to go ahead even in case of a valid ID in case they haven't got > their > > tickets. > > > > In addition if they join the wrong queue because they changed their mind > on > > the t-shirt size they want or because they forgot the tickets home and > can't > > quite recollect it - unless there is an extra volunteer readily available > - > > they have the ultra exclusive privilege to join the next queue again at > the > > rear :) (this is draconian too - but only in an exception case) > > > > Dhananjay > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > > > > -- > With Regards, > Mehul Ved > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 08:10:37 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:40:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > It would be useful if we could wrap up the AGM quickly since it's really > just a formality and then focus on discussing the conference, next years > venue and other things to make the execution smoother next time. > Here's a quick top of the mind recall of matters I think should be discussed. I suspect I might add a few more issues later. - Segmentation : While there was far less feedback of their being introductory talks, some students conveyed to me that some of the talks / tutorials were too advanced for them. We need a broader discussion on exactly what segments we would want to adhere to and then figure out how we satisfy each such segment within the context of overall constraints for an event like this. This is a bigger discussion which needs to be conducted and we need to gather more points on the same. - Scheduling and booking : Especially if capacity is going to be a constraint we need to have a mechanism of people pre-booking their slots and us having the ability to confirm their ability to be able to seat in the preferred track. On a few occasions capacity constraints made some of the talks heavily attended with no seating or standing space left, and at least on one occasion required us to move the session from one track to another given that the number of people wanting to attend was a significant multiple of the room capacity. Note: If we have to go down this path, the CFP will need to be completed and the schedule announced before the registrations begin (with some standard caveats around the fact that while we will attempt to satisfy the registration time scheduling requests - such could get changed based on evolving circumstances - eg. in this case the classrooms were changed for tutorials due to other VIP presence at the venue). - Early bird advantages: There need to be stronger early bird advantages. If the fee is going to go up from just Rs. 300 to 400 there is no incentive to really book earlier. Perhaps combining early registration with ability to register for specific tracks upto the capacity available will be more helpful. - Capacity Planning: Moreover people seem to imagine that a conference has infinite capacity and thus they can wait till the last moment. That is completely untrue. We had to close registrations this time one/two days before the conference due to capacity issues. Note that there are some serious issues around stuffing a room with a very large number of people way beyond its capacity (eg. contingencies like fires). In interest of public safety as well - I think this issue *must* be resolved better the next time. Arbitrary attendance of tracks in excess of venue capacities are safety hazards. - Gate Fees : I think we need to substantially increase Gate Fees for the amount of value provided. For students and full time employees of FOSS bodies the early bird registration fee should be >= INR 500 while for all others it should be >= Rs. 2000 - Wifi and Network planning - We screwed up in terms of delay, and even though we did get it working in the end, this definitely needs to be better taken care of and done much more in advance than we were able to do. - Sponsorships: Sponsors need to have more specific takeaways apart from a pure branding perspectives. Either in terms of increased promotional visibility (inclusion of sponsor brochures on registration ??) or assistance in some other way (job boards was being discussed hotly). Also perhaps something more should be added for platinum sponsors. I also suggest no upfront commitment of constraints on #sponsors per slot (this was a big issue we ran into - while getting platinum sponsors was hard, the gold/silver slots filled up so we had to turn back other requests). Beside I just saw Pycon US seems to be having like 50+ sponsors. - Sponsor confirmations: We either should be able to confirm sponsors based on a written confirmation from them with a promise to pay by a given date, or should delay the sponsorship drives until a relatively brief period before the event. It is hard to muster sponsorships, and then not be able to confirm the sponsorships - since the current policy dictates that we need to receive the payment before we can confirm, and yet sponsors are unlikely to want to pay many many months before the event. - Sponsor tier for small startups : We should have a tier for very small startup sponsors to allow such companies to also extend support. At the same time we need to ensure that sponsor benefits remain commensurate with the slabs and amounts (something that seemed to be an issue between Platinum vs. Gold/Silver this year). - Clear definition of what other activities Pycon can officially promote - I used to get requests to promote some site or other - but had no way to respond to them given no formal policy. I suggest the policy should be no formal support of other local or national python (non FOSS) based software or startups beyond what can be made feasible from a clearer definition of sponsorship tiers. From navin at smriti.com Tue Sep 20 04:00:47 2011 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:30:47 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: I generally agree with what Dhananjay has said. I'd like to add a few more points, and respond to a couple of Dhananjay's points: 1. We should try to get the media sponsorships in place around the time the CFP goes out. Basically, I don't think we needed the media sponsorships to get more people attending the conference - we had enough registrations even before the ads went out. What would help is if "CFP" ads go out in LFY and DevIQ - we'll hopefully get many more, and even better quality submissions for talks. 2. Any feedback on the length of the talks? Many talks ended a little early and we had to fill in with lightening talks, and in some cases, it was just free time. Did that work well, or would people have liked a more packed schedule? Have you heard any feedback? My personal opinion is that the 1 hour slots were fine. The best talks did need 1 hour, and in fact had to be cut-off in the end. The option of having lightening talks was also useful. And in general, having breaks during the conference is not a bad thing. 3. Regarding fees: While I generally agree that fees should be higher, I think I would like to see a significant chunk of the non-student tickets going at around the Rs. 1000 mark. It can increase to Rs 1500 or Rs. 2000, for the last 2 or 3 weeks. 4. Capacity planning: While it would be good to be able to do capacity planning, and guarantee seats to people who "book" slots in advance, I think that would be just too much work and a headache. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 06:20:39 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:50:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > I generally agree with what Dhananjay has said. > > I'd like to add a few more points, and respond to a couple of Dhananjay's > points: > > 1. We should try to get the media sponsorships in place around the time the > CFP goes out. Basically, I don't think we needed the media sponsorships to > get more people attending the conference - we had enough registrations even > before the ads went out. What would help is if "CFP" ads go out in LFY and > DevIQ - we'll hopefully get many more, and even better quality submissions > for talks. > > 2. Any feedback on the length of the talks? Many talks ended a little early > and we had to fill in with lightening talks, and in some cases, it was just > free time. Did that work well, or would people have liked a more packed > schedule? Have you heard any feedback? My personal opinion is that the 1 > hour slots were fine. The best talks did need 1 hour, and in fact had to be > cut-off in the end. The option of having lightening talks was also useful. > And in general, having breaks during the conference is not a bad thing. > > 3. Regarding fees: While I generally agree that fees should be higher, I > think I would like to see a significant chunk of the non-student tickets > going at around the Rs. 1000 mark. It can increase to Rs 1500 or Rs. 2000, > for the last 2 or 3 weeks. > > 4. Capacity planning: While it would be good to be able to do capacity > planning, and guarantee seats to people who "book" slots in advance, I think > that would be just too much work and a headache. My point is that sometimes the number of people in a single room substantially exceeds what is safe. Thus I do believe we need to find a way to contain the attendance within a single room to reasonable limits - whether through pre-booking or closing the doors. In general actually, the limit of safe count is usually the number of seats (since the fire exits etc. have been designed based on number of seats and the regulatory and contemporary design parameters at the point in time the building was designed). From steve at holdenweb.com Tue Sep 20 06:53:29 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:53:29 +0100 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:20 AM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: >> 4. Capacity planning: While it would be good to be able to do capacity >> planning, and guarantee seats to people who "book" slots in advance, I think >> that would be just too much work and a headache. > > My point is that sometimes the number of people in a single room > substantially exceeds what is safe. Thus I do believe we need to find > a way to contain the attendance within a single room to reasonable > limits - whether through pre-booking or closing the doors. In general > actually, the limit of safe count is usually the number of seats > (since the fire exits etc. have been designed based on number of seats > and the regulatory and contemporary design parameters at the point in > time the building was designed). I'd say that was a requirement from a safety point of view. While it's very unlikely that an emergency will occur during a talk, if one did then one would be criminally liable in the USA if the overcrowding led to deaths and/or injuries. I understand the PyCon web site has for some time used JavaScript technology to allow people to indicate the talks they are likely to attend, which gives us better information for planning the allocation of talks to rooms. Even then we once had Ian Bicking talking to about 200 people in a room better-suited to 100, while in the ballroom someone talked about geological processing to an audience of less than ten. It's not easy! regards Steve -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 07:11:55 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (dhananjay.nene at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 05:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. Message-ID: <129967485.5381.1316495518258.JavaMail.seven@ap16.p0.fra.samsungsocialhub.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brij.programming at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 07:15:28 2011 From: brij.programming at gmail.com (Brijesh Kartha) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:45:28 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > My point is that sometimes the number of people in a single room > substantially exceeds what is safe. Thus I do believe we need to find > a way to contain the attendance within a single room to reasonable > limits - whether through pre-booking or closing the doors. In general > actually, the limit of safe count is usually the number of seats > (since the fire exits etc. have been designed based on number of seats > and the regulatory and contemporary design parameters at the point in > time the building was designed). > > I agree. We have to focus on safety. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brij.programming at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 07:24:16 2011 From: brij.programming at gmail.com (Brijesh Kartha) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:54:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > 2. Any feedback on the length of the talks? Many talks ended a little early > and we had to fill in with lightening talks, and in some cases, it was just > free time. Did that work well, or would people have liked a more packed > schedule? Have you heard any feedback? My personal opinion is that the 1 > hour slots were fine. The best talks did need 1 hour, and in fact had to be > cut-off in the end. The option of having lightening talks was also useful. > And in general, having breaks during the conference is not a bad thing. > > I am a conference rookie but from my limited experience I think that the length of the session was alright. I was looking all around and most of the time people were either in talks or engaging with each other. I think the level of corridor discussions were really good and must have helped a lot of the delegates that participated in the conference. I am a little more ambivalent of the situation of the lightening talks. As it was not in a specific area or at a specific time people might have misses interesting lightening talks due to them not knowing that it was happening. One option could be to decide on a specific area or stage (if feasible) and decide that all the lightening talks happen there. So if any session ends early those interested could go over to that area and check out the lightening talks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gauravluthra06 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 07:47:00 2011 From: gauravluthra06 at gmail.com (gaurav luthra) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:17:00 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Brijesh Kartha wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > >> 2. Any feedback on the length of the talks? Many talks ended a little >> early and we had to fill in with lightening talks, and in some cases, it was >> just free time. Did that work well, or would people have liked a more packed >> schedule? Have you heard any feedback? My personal opinion is that the 1 >> hour slots were fine. The best talks did need 1 hour, and in fact had to be >> cut-off in the end. The option of having lightening talks was also useful. >> And in general, having breaks during the conference is not a bad thing. >> >> > I am a conference rookie but from my limited experience I think that the > length of the session was alright. I was looking all around and most of the > time people were either in talks or engaging with each other. I think the > level of corridor discussions were really good and must have helped a lot of > the delegates that participated in the conference. I am a little more > ambivalent of the situation of the lightening talks. As it was not in a > specific area or at a specific time people might have misses interesting > lightening talks due to them not knowing that it was happening. One option > could be to decide on a specific area or stage (if feasible) and decide that > all the lightening talks happen there. So if any session ends early those > interested could go over to that area and check out the lightening talks. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. Although the talks were quite interesting, we could try and include a flow of tracks that start with some introductory overview of the language and progresses through some coding sprints so that newcomers understand better the content that they are being taught. For example, a hands-on session on redis in the evening would have helped. Such workshops spread over three days would be more helpful for some segments of the audience than sitting in talks they can't comprehend and worse they can't try it out then and there. I also suggest the speakers upload the details of the packages being used in the talks in advance so that attendees have them installed. Due to this I missed on some interesting things during the image processing talk by nitin in Track 3 on Day 1. And the absence of wi-fi didn't help either. My 0.02$. -- ~GAURAV LUTHRA~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 09:41:52 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:11:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Thank you Studio March Message-ID: Earlier during the Pycon organisation process, Studio March http://www.studiomarch.com/ a company in pune, helped us design a poster for distribution to Colleges with an intent to promote attendance to Pycon India 2011 "Studio March is a thinking company that focuses on design and communication to build systems and solve real-world problems. We believe that simple, well thought-out and creative solutions will simplify the world in a big way." It was a wonderful poster, yet I held back its release due to the fact that it was starting to be a likely that we would be reaching capacity constraints. They worked hard on it, and it was unfortunate that we could not go through with the idea. There was no point at the time of publicly acknowledging their efforts on a graphic that wasn't being released (would've just led to more confusion) Nevertheless the essential theme and characteristic found itself being used in the Pycon India 2011 banners. Some people appreciated the banners and it was only most fitting that their efforts were thanked for and appreciated. So, once again, Thank You Studio March, your efforts greatly helped us put forward a much nicer and elegant image. Please find attached the original poster created for distribution to colleges. Dhananjay -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PyCon-final.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2481737 bytes Desc: not available URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 08:22:05 2011 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:52:05 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, gaurav luthra wrote: > > I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. A quick reply - We were aware of this ourselves. Frankly we didn't plan properly for this and only bought the power strips (16 of them) the last thing on the previous day of the conference. Ideally we should have stocked up a number of them (at least 30) and serially connect them to provide power all around. I think it might have been felt more acutely in the auditorium. I tried my best to link a couple of them serially at every outlet, but we didn't have enough to cover all seats. Point taken. We need to stock up on power strips well before the conference. > Although the talks were quite interesting, we could try and include a flow > of tracks that start with some introductory overview of the language and > progresses through some coding sprints so that newcomers understand better > the content that they are being taught. For example, a hands-on session on > redis in the evening would have helped. Such workshops spread over three > days would be more helpful for some segments of the audience than sitting in > talks they can't comprehend and worse they can't try it out then and there. > I also suggest the speakers upload the details of the packages being used in > the talks in advance so that attendees have them installed. Due to this I > missed on some interesting things during the image processing talk by nitin > in Track 3 on Day 1. And the absence of wi-fi didn't help either. > It was perhaps I who first suggested a 1 hr duration of each talk. This was from my (bad) experience from last year where I tried to pack a large number of talks with barely breathing room between each. So this year the thinking was to provide 45 min for the speaker to complete his talk and a luxury of 15 mins to do everything else - Q&A, audience interaction, corridor discussions, breaks etc. So not surprising that for a few talks where the author either paced himself too fast or didn't have enough content, people could have felt that the entire session was on the ligher side in terms of content. However content is only part of the experience, and we wanted to give room to everyone to engage each other and have an all around experience. I think it worked. > > My 0.02$. > -- > ~GAURAV LUTHRA~ > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 08:27:39 2011 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:57:39 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: (Anand Balachandran Pillai's message of "Tue, 20 Sep 2011 11:52:05 +0530") References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87ty87k9t0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Let me try to consolidate all of this (and personal feedback I've received) into a single document and put it up on the wiki. I'll censor sensitive information before doing this. This should give us a list of gotchas to avoid. I'll get it up by the coming Monday. This week is going to be really busy. Anand Balachandran Pillai writes: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, gaurav luthra wrote: > >> >> I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. > > > A quick reply - We were aware of this ourselves. Frankly we didn't plan > properly for this and only bought the power strips (16 of them) the last > thing > on the previous day of the conference. > > Ideally we should have stocked up a number of them (at least 30) and > serially connect them to provide power all around. I think it might have > been > felt more acutely in the auditorium. I tried my best to link a couple of > them > serially at every outlet, but we didn't have enough to cover all seats. > > Point taken. We need to stock up on power strips well before > the conference. > > >> Although the talks were quite interesting, we could try and include a flow >> of tracks that start with some introductory overview of the language and >> progresses through some coding sprints so that newcomers understand better >> the content that they are being taught. For example, a hands-on session on >> redis in the evening would have helped. Such workshops spread over three >> days would be more helpful for some segments of the audience than sitting in >> talks they can't comprehend and worse they can't try it out then and there. >> I also suggest the speakers upload the details of the packages being used in >> the talks in advance so that attendees have them installed. Due to this I >> missed on some interesting things during the image processing talk by nitin >> in Track 3 on Day 1. And the absence of wi-fi didn't help either. >> > > It was perhaps I who first suggested a 1 hr duration of each talk. > This was from my (bad) experience from last year where I tried to > pack a large number of talks with barely breathing room between > each. So this year the thinking was to provide 45 min for the speaker > to complete his talk and a luxury of 15 mins to do everything else - > Q&A, audience interaction, corridor discussions, breaks etc. So not > surprising that for a few talks where the author either paced himself > too fast or didn't have enough content, people could have felt that > the entire session was on the ligher side in terms of content. However > content is only part of the experience, and we wanted to give room > to everyone to engage each other and have an all around experience. > I think it worked. > > >> >> My 0.02$. >> -- >> ~GAURAV LUTHRA~ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in I'm proud of my humility. From gauravluthra06 at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 08:44:10 2011 From: gauravluthra06 at gmail.com (gaurav luthra) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:14:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: <87ty87k9t0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87ty87k9t0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Let me try to consolidate all of this (and personal feedback I've > received) into a single document and put it up on the wiki. I'll censor > sensitive information before doing this. > > This should give us a list of gotchas to avoid. I'll get it up by the > coming Monday. This week is going to be really busy. > > Anand Balachandran Pillai writes: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, gaurav luthra < > gauravluthra06 at gmail.com>wrote: > > > >> > >> I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. > > > > > > A quick reply - We were aware of this ourselves. Frankly we didn't plan > > properly for this and only bought the power strips (16 of them) the last > > thing > > on the previous day of the conference. > > > > Ideally we should have stocked up a number of them (at least 30) and > > serially connect them to provide power all around. I think it might have > > been > > felt more acutely in the auditorium. I tried my best to link a couple of > > them > > serially at every outlet, but we didn't have enough to cover all seats. > > > > Point taken. We need to stock up on power strips well before > > the conference. > > > > > >> Although the talks were quite interesting, we could try and include a > flow > >> of tracks that start with some introductory overview of the language and > >> progresses through some coding sprints so that newcomers understand > better > >> the content that they are being taught. For example, a hands-on session > on > >> redis in the evening would have helped. Such workshops spread over three > >> days would be more helpful for some segments of the audience than > sitting in > >> talks they can't comprehend and worse they can't try it out then and > there. > >> I also suggest the speakers upload the details of the packages being > used in > >> the talks in advance so that attendees have them installed. Due to this > I > >> missed on some interesting things during the image processing talk by > nitin > >> in Track 3 on Day 1. And the absence of wi-fi didn't help either. > >> > > > > It was perhaps I who first suggested a 1 hr duration of each talk. > > This was from my (bad) experience from last year where I tried to > > pack a large number of talks with barely breathing room between > > each. So this year the thinking was to provide 45 min for the speaker > > to complete his talk and a luxury of 15 mins to do everything else - > > Q&A, audience interaction, corridor discussions, breaks etc. So not > > surprising that for a few talks where the author either paced himself > > too fast or didn't have enough content, people could have felt that > > the entire session was on the ligher side in terms of content. However > > content is only part of the experience, and we wanted to give room > > to everyone to engage each other and have an all around experience. > > I think it worked. > > > > > >> > >> My 0.02$. > >> -- > >> ~GAURAV LUTHRA~ > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inpycon mailing list > >> Inpycon at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > >> > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > I'm proud of my humility. > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >From the experience point of view, I agree that the conference had something for everyone, was thoroughly enjoyable and was one of the best I've attended. Kudos to the organising team. When you create the wiki consider preparing a draft for organising any conference. A sort of "HowTo organise a successful conference in 7 days." ;) -- ~GAURAV LUTHRA~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 09:17:06 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:47:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, gaurav luthra > wrote: >> >> I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. > > ?A quick reply - We were aware of this ourselves. Frankly we didn't plan > properly for this and only bought the power strips (16 of them) the last > thing > on the previous day of the conference. Not sure if I entirely agree. Running six outlets per outlet provided at auditorium is a sufficient overload - anything more is likely to overload the underlying assumed electrical circuits. We can consider this as a factor when looking at a venue, but seriously it makes no sense to overload the built in venue provided electrical outlets unless one wants to contemplate drawing a separate wire from the venue level mains into the auditoriums (needs more Rs, and careful electrical planning). To the extent one sticks with the venue provided outlets, I think we did what was reasonably feasible. From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 09:19:29 2011 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:49:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > [..] >> >> Although the talks were quite interesting, we could try and include a flow >> of tracks that start with some introductory overview of the language and >> progresses through some coding sprints so that newcomers understand better >> the content that they are being taught. For example, a hands-on session on >> redis in the evening would have helped. Such workshops spread over three >> days would be more helpful for some segments of the audience than sitting in >> talks they can't comprehend and worse they can't try it out then and there. >> I also suggest the speakers upload the details of the packages being used in >> the talks in advance so that attendees have them installed. Due to this I >> missed on some interesting things during the image processing talk by nitin >> in Track 3 on Day 1. And the absence of wi-fi didn't help either. > > It was perhaps I who first suggested a 1 hr duration of each talk. > This was from my (bad) experience from last year where I tried to > ?pack a large number of talks with barely breathing room between > each. So this year the thinking was to provide 45 min for the speaker > to complete his talk and a luxury of 15 mins to do everything else - > Q&A, audience interaction, corridor discussions, breaks etc. So not > surprising that for a few talks where the author either paced himself > too fast or didn't have enough content, people could have felt that > the entire session was on the ligher side in terms of content. However > content is only part of the experience, and we wanted to give room > to everyone to engage each other and have an all around experience. > I think it worked. +1 From brij.programming at gmail.com Tue Sep 20 10:16:40 2011 From: brij.programming at gmail.com (Brijesh Kartha) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:46:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India post mortem. In-Reply-To: References: <87mxe6z98s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:17 AM, gaurav luthra < > gauravluthra06 at gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> I am amused nobody pointed out the lack of sufficient power outlets. > > > > A quick reply - We were aware of this ourselves. Frankly we didn't plan > > properly for this and only bought the power strips (16 of them) the last > > thing > > on the previous day of the conference. > > Not sure if I entirely agree. Running six outlets per outlet provided > at auditorium is a sufficient overload - anything more is likely to > overload the underlying assumed electrical circuits. We can consider > this as a factor when looking at a venue, but seriously it makes no > sense to overload the built in venue provided electrical outlets > unless one wants to contemplate drawing a separate wire from the venue > level mains into the auditoriums (needs more Rs, and careful > electrical planning). To the extent one sticks with the venue provided > outlets, I think we did what was reasonably feasible. > > +1. In fact I do have a major rant on the requirement of techies for power and the net, but I will save that for another time and off the forum :) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe a party after > the event. :) We did have a party (for the organisers) but many of them left early. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Some bird populations soaring down -Headline of an article in Science News, page 126, February 20, 1993. From lawgon at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 08:50:42 2011 From: lawgon at gmail.com (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:20:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Raymond's companies Message-ID: <1316587845.5400.8.camel@xlquest.web> hi, can anyone remember the companies that use python that Raymond mentioned in his keynote? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves From b.ghose at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 08:55:41 2011 From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:25:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Raymond's companies In-Reply-To: <1316587845.5400.8.camel@xlquest.web> References: <1316587845.5400.8.camel@xlquest.web> Message-ID: > can anyone remember the companies that use python that Raymond mentioned > in his keynote? Google YouTube Disney Dropbox JPL Cisco SauceLabs Regards, BG -- Baishampayan Ghose b.ghose at gmail.com From noufal at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 08:56:45 2011 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:26:45 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Raymond's companies In-Reply-To: <1316587845.5400.8.camel@xlquest.web> (Kenneth Gonsalves's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:20:42 +0530") References: <1316587845.5400.8.camel@xlquest.web> Message-ID: <874o06bcya.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Kenneth Gonsalves writes: > hi, > > can anyone remember the companies that use python that Raymond > mentioned in his keynote? The slides and and talk are at http://urtalk.com/2011/09/17/pycon-india-2011-keynote-by-raymond-hettinger/. You can get them there. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in All generalisations are dangerous, including this one.