[Inpycon] PyCon India 2010 venue : MSRIT vs. RVCE

[renuka prasad]

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Renuka Prasad,
>
>   I might be (and I hope I am) reading you wrongly but you sound a
>
yes you are

> little offended in your email. I apologise about the lack of a firm

no need to do that

> decision but since this whole effort is a community driven thing,
>
i am aware of that

> there cannot be any quick decisions by a single person. Things will
> take time and it's my experience that it will take quite some
> discussion before we settle on a venue. It's an important aspect and
> we can't just make a brash decision. The problems being raised are
> genuine.
>
> i accept that

> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:16 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [..]
> > then there is no meaning and value  to conduct such event.. please do not
> > consider RVCE if you people wont value the philosophy and consider only
> > about conducting a tech event, i cant support such things
>
> We are not planning to conduct a free software or open source
> conference. This is something that is quite clear. It's a language
> conference. Since the popular interpreters for Python are free
> software, it's likely that most of the crowd will be hacker types
> inclining towards open source/free software but we are not holding
> this to emphasise the free software philosophy. As much as I care
> about it myself, this is purely a technical conference (albeit
> attended mostly by free software interested people).
>
>

> >  it looks to me that there are too many night birds and does not want to
> get
> > up early on one Saturday for FOSS ( python in this case ) and anyways
> Sunday
> > is  cool..
>
> This is not a FOSS conference. We'd gladly welcome proprietary
> software if it played a role in the Python eco space.
> As for the night birds thing, it's often the case that the attendance
> will peak around 10:30 am for a conference that starts at 9:00 or so.
> I don't really expect anyone (except the organisers perhaps) to show
> up at 8:00 am for a conference that starts later.
>
> i was telling that people can get up early and reach the venues -- not RVCE
only

> > i dont want to comment on traffic and other things --thats not in our
> hands
>
> True but it's a fact and something we have to consider. I'm sure you
> understand the problem.
>
>

> > atleast by next year METRO will be ready ,
> > then there would be complaints about cost rather than traffic
>
> I'm not sure I understand this point.
>
> > since baiju  approached us long back i assumed that there would be some
> > consensus and was very happy that we could host , but then there were
> good
> > signs that other colleges also were willing to host the event
>
> I think there was some misunderstanding. We were looking for venues
>
no never, i knew about all these , just before 5mmins i was about to fix a
meeting with college authorities i got message that i should wait for few
more days ....

> and were speaking to multiple people. I spoke to IIMB and Arvind spoke
> to NIMHANS. Other threads were being followed and Baiju spoke with you
> to get the details from RV. The plan was to discuss after we had all
> the potential venues and then fix on one. We didn't have a consensus
>
there was is what i understood , from the conversation i had , so i was
about to fix the meeting

> when we spoke with you.
>
> After Baiju's initial mail, we didn't have any alternatives and almost
> fixed on RV but then Anil form MSRIT mailed and the discussions
> started again.
>
> > since we are planning to run python course this semester in our college
> for
> > one of the BE branches,  there is a 6 day X 6 hour workshop ,that would
> also
> > make python more popular and bring some satisfaction to us to host the
> > workshop,  taking up pycon2010 would have been a great impact , but even
> > otherwise  those who value would attend the conference wherever it is
> held.
>
> I'm glad and thankful for your interest and support.
>
> My concern is that if the road issue is a big problem, it would affect
> attendance and that's something I want to avoid.
>
> > please go ahead with MSRIT , no doubts there is very good infrastructure,
> > take care about all the other requirements like catering , generator ,
> UPS
> > etc etc .. let me know if any more help required from faculty side , i
> have
> > some contacts whom i am also in touch since this discussion is going on
> and
> > they are also waiting for some calls to help
>
> That would be great.
>
> >> I know there would be arguments from people living near Mysore Road,
> that
> >> MSRIT is equally in accessible, if that's the case we need to relook at
> >> opting for a more central location....
> >>
> >> Anyways this is my personal thoughts.....
> >>
> > this is what i suggested baiju and ofcourse on the list that day when
> some
> > body talking about the institute of engineers
> >
> > if those who are really bothered about the traffic why none of you gave a
> > thought about the venue i suggested which is not even one kilo meter from
> > bus station and railway station.
>
> Well, there are tons of venues. St Johns, the institute of engineers
> etc. However, for a volunteer driven thing to work, we need contacts
> at these places and proactive people to follow up. The only places
> where we got this were from RV and MSRIT. Adding more potential venues
> into the whole thing would just waste time and increase emails without
> getting any work done.
>
> > what required at the beginning was a hall with a 300 -400 capacity and 2
> or
> > 3 seminar halls and AC was not a criteria at all. if that was the case
> there
> > is such facility with much more advantages like zero expenses on local
> > travel , central to the city
>
> AC is still not a criterion. The room sizes is still the main thing.
> However, if things like wifi/projectors are already there, it would
> help. If AC is there, it's nice to have. None of those are compulsory.
>
> > we should have some solid minds,
>
> We're doing the best we can. I can speak for myself and am quite sure
> about most of the people on the list but it *does* take time. After
> all, none of us are paid to do this.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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