From rmathews at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 06:56:25 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 10:26:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PSF news on python.org
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:09, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> Check www.python.org now and read the top news :)
>
Nice! :)

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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 09:33:22 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:03:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PSF news on python.org
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Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:09, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Check www.python.org now and read the top news :)
>>
> Nice! :)

Indeed. We're past the point of no return now so screwing up and going
home is no longer an option. :)


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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 14:17:47 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:47:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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Hello all,
               Of the conferences we have organised and delegated , we have
observed that
providing online registrations has always helped  +1 for that , but given
that most of the students cannot buy tickets online let there be a provision
of paying onsite after completing registrations online(hey could get a print
out of confirmed registration mail or something for verification) and for
those who want to purchase it online they could as well do that, this way we
can have an estimate of the participants and also cater for their needs when
they come to the venue.
we could distribute the swag later during the day rather than in the morning
as in we could announce in each of the halls to come and collect the
swags and thus avoid commotion before the first keynote .

Anil


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Shalin Jain <shalinjain at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > There are problems with charging that high for a ticket. The venue
> > sponsor is right now giving us the facilities at a very nominal cost.
> > If we charge this kind of money, it wouldn't really work for them.
> >
> > The registration money is purely to cover the swag and food. We're
> > thinking of the whole early bird thing to encourage people to register
> > early so that we can get approximate numbers.
>
> Fair enough. 750 is just an example. Just to make it cheaper for
> Students and help subsidize student price by charge non-students
> slight more.
>
> >
> >> 3. Alternative to Early Bird
> >>
> >> Discount codes are great alternative to having early bird. For
> >> instance, I would launch with discount code 'ilovepython' or similar
> >> while announcing the opening of registrations. This code can be kept
> >> to a max quantity of 50, valid for first 3 days with a cash discount
> >> of 200 rupees (on Professional Pass) pushed mainly to the mailing
> >> list, twitter and facebook group. (Just an example!)
> >
> > I don't quite get this. Maybe I'm getting senile before my time but
> > this sounds a little complicated.
> > Does this mean that the first 50 or so people in the first 3 days can
> > enter "Ilovepython" or something and get a ticket for less?
> >
>
> Basically what I am referring to is: you can have discount coupons
> issued to promote early registrations. This is just an alternative to
> having early bird ticket. Basically discount codes could be time or
> quantity bound or both.
>
> > --
> > ~noufal
> > http://nibrahim.net.in
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From steve at lonetwin.net  Thu Jul  1 17:32:12 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:02:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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On 06/30/2010 11:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Anand Chitipothu<anandology at gmail.com>  wrote:
> [..]
>>  I don't think early-bird registration is going to cutdown the queue.
>>  People anyway have to collect the conference kit and swag. With
>>  early-bird registration we will have a better estimate of number of
>>  people expected.
>
> I think it will help.
> Picking up swag bags and giving it to people is not *that* time consuming.
>
> It's when people give us money and we have to hunt for change and put
> their names down etc. that it becomes tedious and time consuming.
>
Just a thought, since the event is in September and online registrations will be 
(/are ??) open, why can't in-person registrations also simultaneously occur at 
the python user group meets ?

Unless i am mistaken the bangpypers meet every month and so to the Mumpy guys. 
In person registrations at these meets might be convenient for those who have 
already made up their mind to attend but cannot make online payment while also 
easing away at least some of the load off from the on-the-spot registrations.

So, someone from these cities can volunteer to collect registrations. We can 
have a cut-off date after which the volunteers in each city handling these 
registrations stop accepting any more and transfer the names and registration 
money to someone in Bangalore (I am assuming that the ability to do this 
transfer through online means would be a pre-requisite to volunteer to collect 
registrations).

I can volunteer to handle registrations in Pune (although we don't have regular 
meetings, i can always meetup with some of the members).

cheers,
- steve

-- 
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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 20:51:16 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 00:21:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:46 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [..]
> > not necessary , start registration at 8.30 or 9.00 , have more
> registration
> > desks and close it just before keynote addressing and then open again ,
>
> This is not really practical. We can't take all the stuff from the
> desks, keep it somewhere and then come back again after they keynote.
>
it is possible , why we have to block our minds , there will be lot of
options

> If the registration desk is opened, it should stay open till there are
> no more people to register.
>
>

> The traffic will spike around 10:00 am. That's when people will drop
> in in large numbers. I think it's a given that the people who man the
> registration desk will miss the keynote. It's not pleasant so i'd like
> to make it as quick and less as possible.
>
> quick means , more volunteers and less in number means -- thats left to how
we want  it to be , do you think not allowing people to attend the keynote
for those who have not registered is a good thing to do ,

 i think it should not be like that


Just because we have 50 student volunteers doesn't mean that we have
> to needlessly make more work.
>

i bet students like to meet and talk to more people than anyone -- i bet on
this , we have seen this happening since many years , so usually we leave
these kind of things to them

of course taking their help is left to you

> > otherwise few have to miss the key note and those might have to look into
> > the recoded videos
>
> Yeah. That's not a good thing. I'd like the number of people who miss
> the keynote to be as small as possible.
>
>
good !!

> [..]
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 02:47:34 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 06:17:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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In the registration acknowledgement slip we can have barcodes printed.
http://www.eventbrite.com/ has that option , and it is also capable enough
to manage pre-event registrations. ( their services would
have an option of pre-payment and also it would be free for us . (Non profit
organization ) )

workflow 1: Participants with pre-booking.
a. have the participant print out the acknowledgement slip with the bar
code.
b. the moment they come at the registration desk. a person with a barcode
reader scans his slip, matches to see if it is legitimate.
c. If it is legitimate , he is passed on to the next desk to collect the
swags.

workflow 2: Walk - In participants ( The difficult part )
a. We have a second Queue, with another barcode reader , the walking
participant hands over his ID card (Office id / College id )
    and has the barcode on it scanned. ( Most Id cards have bar codes
). ( *Does
anyone has an experience working with barcode readers ? different cards
would have different format for storing the data* )
b.1 If the card has barcode and the data is read correctly, he goes to the
payment and swag collection counter.
b.2 if the card doesn't have a barcode or the data isn't read correctly ,
the participant has to register manually.



On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:21 AM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:46 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> [..]
>> > not necessary , start registration at 8.30 or 9.00 , have more
>> registration
>> > desks and close it just before keynote addressing and then open again ,
>>
>> This is not really practical. We can't take all the stuff from the
>> desks, keep it somewhere and then come back again after they keynote.
>>
> it is possible , why we have to block our minds , there will be lot of
> options
>
>> If the registration desk is opened, it should stay open till there are
>> no more people to register.
>>
>>
>
>> The traffic will spike around 10:00 am. That's when people will drop
>> in in large numbers. I think it's a given that the people who man the
>> registration desk will miss the keynote. It's not pleasant so i'd like
>> to make it as quick and less as possible.
>>
>> quick means , more volunteers and less in number means -- thats left to
> how we want  it to be , do you think not allowing people to attend the
> keynote for those who have not registered is a good thing to do ,
>
>  i think it should not be like that
>
>
> Just because we have 50 student volunteers doesn't mean that we have
>> to needlessly make more work.
>>
>
> i bet students like to meet and talk to more people than anyone -- i bet on
> this , we have seen this happening since many years , so usually we leave
> these kind of things to them
>
> of course taking their help is left to you
>
>> > otherwise few have to miss the key note and those might have to look
>> into
>> > the recoded videos
>>
>> Yeah. That's not a good thing. I'd like the number of people who miss
>> the keynote to be as small as possible.
>>
>>
> good !!
>
>> [..]
>>
>> --
>> ~noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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>
>


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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul  2 06:43:53 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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On Thursday 01 July 2010 21:02:12 steve wrote:
> On 06/30/2010 11:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Anand Chitipothu<anandology at gmail.com> 
> > wrote: [..]
> >
> >>  I don't think early-bird registration is going to cutdown the queue.
> >>  People anyway have to collect the conference kit and swag. With
> >>  early-bird registration we will have a better estimate of number of
> >>  people expected.
> >
> > I think it will help.
> > Picking up swag bags and giving it to people is not *that* time
> > consuming.
> >
> > It's when people give us money and we have to hunt for change and put
> > their names down etc. that it becomes tedious and time consuming.
> 
> Just a thought, since the event is in September and online registrations
>  will be (/are ??) open, why can't in-person registrations also
>  simultaneously occur at the python user group meets ?
> 
> Unless i am mistaken the bangpypers meet every month and so to the Mumpy
>  guys. In person registrations at these meets might be convenient for those
>  who have already made up their mind to attend but cannot make online
>  payment while also easing away at least some of the load off from the
>  on-the-spot registrations.
> 
> So, someone from these cities can volunteer to collect registrations. We
>  can have a cut-off date after which the volunteers in each city handling
>  these registrations stop accepting any more and transfer the names and
>  registration money to someone in Bangalore (I am assuming that the ability
>  to do this transfer through online means would be a pre-requisite to
>  volunteer to collect registrations).
> 
> I can volunteer to handle registrations in Pune (although we don't have
>  regular meetings, i can always meetup with some of the members).

ideas out of the box are very good. We can collect from chennaipy members

-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 12:16:52 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:46:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Thursday 01 July 2010 21:02:12 steve wrote:
[...]
>> Just a thought, since the event is in September and online registrations
>>  will be (/are ??) open, why can't in-person registrations also
>>  simultaneously occur at the python user group meets ?

[...]

> ideas out of the box are very good. We can collect from chennaipy members

I think it's a good idea and would help us. Let's start this off as soon
as the registrations open (we're discussing stuff with Doattend - I
expect it to officially open on the 5th). I will also speak to them
about this.

We'll need people for each of the groups to take responsibility for that
area.

Kenneth can (or at least find someone to) take care of Chennai
Steve can handle Pune
Someone needs to step up for Bangalore
Someone needs to step up for Hyderabad
Someone needs to step up for Mumbai

If one of you guys can contact the people and arrange for this to happen,
it would be great. I'm rather strapped for time myself.

Thanks.

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 12:30:22 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:00:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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2010/7/2 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:
>
>> On Thursday 01 July 2010 21:02:12 steve wrote:
> [...]
>>> Just a thought, since the event is in September and online registrations
>>> ?will be (/are ??) open, why can't in-person registrations also
>>> ?simultaneously occur at the python user group meets ?
>
> [...]
>
>> ideas out of the box are very good. We can collect from chennaipy members
>
> I think it's a good idea and would help us. Let's start this off as soon
> as the registrations open (we're discussing stuff with Doattend - I
> expect it to officially open on the 5th). I will also speak to them
> about this.
>
> We'll need people for each of the groups to take responsibility for that
> area.
>
> Kenneth can (or at least find someone to) take care of Chennai
> Steve can handle Pune
> Someone needs to step up for Bangalore
> Someone needs to step up for Hyderabad
> Someone needs to step up for Mumbai
>
> If one of you guys can contact the people and arrange for this to happen,
> it would be great. I'm rather strapped for time myself.

That might not work for all the people. Some one like me might be
sitting in some remote corner of the city and won't be able to meet
the designated person to handover the money. What if the designated
person failed to turn up for the event for some personal reason.

I suggest keeping 3 tiers.

online earlybird registration: Rs 250/-
offline earlybird registration: Rs 300/-
spot registration: Rs. 350/-

So people can pay online to get a discount of Rs. 50. People who don't
have access to netbanking can save Rs. 50/- by catching someone who
has access.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 13:01:13 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:31:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

> 2010/7/2 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:

[...]

> That might not work for all the people. Some one like me might be
> sitting in some remote corner of the city and won't be able to meet
> the designated person to handover the money. What if the designated
> person failed to turn up for the event for some personal reason.

It's not for all the people but the people who *can* come can do so and
we'll have that much less overhead at the day of the conf. 

> I suggest keeping 3 tiers.
>
> online earlybird registration: Rs 250/-
> offline earlybird registration: Rs 300/-
> spot registration: Rs. 350/-
>
> So people can pay online to get a discount of Rs. 50. People who don't
> have access to netbanking can save Rs. 50/- by catching someone who
> has access.

[...]

I don't think a 50INR benefit is going to persuade/dissuade anyone. I
think the early bird rates can be 250. You can either pay online or at
one of the group meetups. Doattend has some offline payment system
(cheque etc.) as well.

If they've registered early, and don't pay, they can pay at the
venue. This is something which we wish to avoid but I'm not sure if we
can. 

If they're completely spot registrations, we should make the money
significantly higher so that this is dissuaded. 50 INR is not
enough. Atleast double of the early bird rates. 

So that's three tiers. 
Early bird registration : 250 INR (From July 5 to 20 Aug)
Regular registration    : 350 INR (From 20 Aug till the conf date).
Spot registration       : 500 INR (at the desk registrations)

The payment for the first two can be online or offline. 

If you feel that the 500 INR is too much, perhaps we can do something
else like "no swag for spot registrations"?


-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 14:20:44 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:50:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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> So that's three tiers.
> Early bird registration : 250 INR (From July 5 to 20 Aug)
> Regular registration ? ?: 350 INR (From 20 Aug till the conf date).
> Spot registration ? ? ? : 500 INR (at the desk registrations)
>
> The payment for the first two can be online or offline.

Are those dates for registration or payment? If I register before 20
Aug and pay offline on Sept 1, should I have to pay Rs. 250 or Rs.
350?

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 14:25:04 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:55:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

>> So that's three tiers.
>> Early bird registration : 250 INR (From July 5 to 20 Aug)
>> Regular registration ? ?: 350 INR (From 20 Aug till the conf date).
>> Spot registration ? ? ? : 500 INR (at the desk registrations)
>>
>> The payment for the first two can be online or offline.
>
> Are those dates for registration or payment? If I register before 20
> Aug and pay offline on Sept 1, should I have to pay Rs. 250 or Rs.
> 350?

[...]

Oh boy. That's another hassle.

This is getting hairy. I'm open to ideas here. This is not going
anywhere nice. :(


-- 

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 14:27:35 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:57:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> If they're completely spot registrations, we should make the money
> significantly higher so that this is dissuaded. 50 INR is not
> enough. Atleast double of the early bird rates.
>
> So that's three tiers.
> Early bird registration : 250 INR (From July 5 to 20 Aug)
> Regular registration    : 350 INR (From 20 Aug till the conf date).
> Spot registration       : 500 INR (at the desk registrations)
>
> Rethink on the Amount for  Spot Registration, Doubling the early bird offer
and spot registrations looks like a business tactic

and i suggest to do some more classification, like Students ( Academic
Institutions ) and Others ( classify further if needed)

We see that classification in most of the conferences


> The payment for the first two can be online or offline.
>
> If you feel that the 500 INR is too much, perhaps we can do something
> else like "no swag for spot registrations"?
>
>
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From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 14:29:04 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:59:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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@Noufal

Let us rephrase the sentences below, registration => registration with
payment ( both completing on or before the stipulated dead line)

payment gateways:
1.Transfer to bank account (which one ?).
2.Pay the amount online doAttend.
3.Pay it to one of the Python User Group Representatives.
.....

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> So that's three tiers.
> >> Early bird registration : 250 INR (From July 5 to 20 Aug)
> >> Regular registration    : 350 INR (From 20 Aug till the conf date).
> >> Spot registration       : 500 INR (at the desk registrations)
> >>
> >> The payment for the first two can be online or offline.
> >
> > Are those dates for registration or payment? If I register before 20
> > Aug and pay offline on Sept 1, should I have to pay Rs. 250 or Rs.
> > 350?
>
> [...]
>
> Oh boy. That's another hassle.
>
> This is getting hairy. I'm open to ideas here. This is not going
> anywhere nice. :(
>
>
> --
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 14:34:30 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:04:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:

[...]

>> Rethink on the Amount for  Spot Registration, Doubling the early bird offer
> and spot registrations looks like a business tactic

Hmm. I didn't intend that. I just didn't want people to say "I'm not
sure if I can attend so I'll keep it for the last minute since it's just
50 Rs. more".

> and i suggest to do some more classification, like Students ( Academic
> Institutions ) and Others ( classify further if needed)

This came up earlier. I was personally against it and if I remember, it
wasn't very popular on the list. The idea is that we'll keep the rates
low enough for students and make that the rate for everyone.


[...]


-- 

From steve at lonetwin.net  Fri Jul  2 14:51:41 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:21:41 +0530
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On 07/02/2010 06:04 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> renuka prasad<renukaprasadb at gmail.com>  writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>>  Rethink on the Amount for  Spot Registration, Doubling the early bird offer
>>  and spot registrations looks like a business tactic
>
> Hmm. I didn't intend that. I just didn't want people to say "I'm not
> sure if I can attend so I'll keep it for the last minute since it's just
> 50 Rs. more".
>
I think 500 is fine. If it is mistaken as like a business tactic that's 
unfortunate, but the difference has to be substantial to encourage online 
registrations.

>>  and i suggest to do some more classification, like Students ( Academic
>>  Institutions ) and Others ( classify further if needed)
>
> This came up earlier. I was personally against it and if I remember, it
> wasn't very popular on the list. The idea is that we'll keep the rates
> low enough for students and make that the rate for everyone.
>
>
+1. Keep one rate. That /also/ takes away the hassle of screening IDs. I am sure 
there are those out there who carry their student IDs from the previous year to 
just try their luck at a discount -- not because they can't afford to pay the 
regular amount. Even if the people manning the registration desks are diligent 
and catch these, it still is wasted time and effort.

cheers,
- steve

-- 
random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/
what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 16:18:43 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:48:43 +0530
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:

> On 07/02/2010 06:04 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
>> renuka prasad<renukaprasadb at gmail.com>  writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>   Rethink on the Amount for  Spot Registration, Doubling the early bird
>>>> offer
>>>>
>>>  and spot registrations looks like a business tactic
>>>
>>
>> Hmm. I didn't intend that. I just didn't want people to say "I'm not
>> sure if I can attend so I'll keep it for the last minute since it's just
>> 50 Rs. more".
>>
>>  I think 500 is fine. If it is mistaken as like a business tactic that's
> unfortunate, but the difference has to be substantial to encourage online
> registrations.
>
>
>   and i suggest to do some more classification, like Students ( Academic
>>>  Institutions ) and Others ( classify further if needed)
>>>
>>
>> This came up earlier. I was personally against it and if I remember, it
>> wasn't very popular on the list. The idea is that we'll keep the rates
>> low enough for students and make that the rate for everyone.
>>
>>
>>  +1. Keep one rate. That /also/ takes away the hassle of screening IDs. I
> am sure there are those out there who carry their student IDs from the
> previous year to just try their luck at a discount -- not because they can't
> afford to pay the regular amount. Even if the people manning the
> registration desks are diligent and catch these, it still is wasted time and
> effort.
>
>
what wrong? ( i am not telling that what they are doing is right ) what i am
feeling is that he /she will attend the conference na ...

there can be so many possibilities , what if some of the students who come
to conference and start calling up their friends and they suddenly come in
100's then ??

anyways there should be fair chance for every one

>
> cheers,
> - steve
>
> --
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:38:37 2010
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:08:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:

[...]

> what wrong? ( i am not telling that what they are doing is right )
> what i am feeling is that he /she will attend the conference na ...

It's an overhead. I don't think it's worth it. If they're serious about
the conf., they can pay and enter. I don't think we need to accommodate
such people. 

> there can be so many possibilities , what if some of the students who
> come to conference and start calling up their friends and they
> suddenly come in 100's then ??

Two things
1. While possible, I don't think this scenario is probable so it's not
   worth discussing. 
2. We'd get shafted. The extra people wouldn't get food, they wouldn't
   get swag, we wouldn't be able to accommodate them and we'd be totally
   messed up. I want these "some students" to hear about conf. *now* so
   that they can call their friends and we'd get numbers in advance. 


> anyways there should be fair chance for every one

For the people who are interested anyway.

[...]


-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:41:11 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:11:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Analytics numbers looking better.
Message-ID: <87wrtdu994.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Hello everyone,

        A spot of good news for everyone out there. Some of our publicity
efforts seem to be working and the Google analytics show a slow climb in
visitors.

        If anyone else wants to administer/view the analytics pages,
send me your gmail account and I can add you as an admin.

        The Northern parts of the country (Delhi, Gurgaon etc.) are not
very well represented on the map. There were some chaps from BITS who
were enthusiastic about conducting the conference there. We need the
news of the conference to spread and all the latent Pythonistas in the
country to be smoked out of their slumbers. So, keep spreading the word!

Here are the traffic sources that send traffic to the site.

Sources                Visits    % visits
-----------------------------------------
(direct) ((none))        672      47.97%
python.org (referral)    242      17.27%
google (organic)         159      11.35%
twitter.com (referral)   108       7.71%
facebook.com (referral)   87       6.21% 

        I'd love to see the referring sites increased. More people
should talk about us. Blogs is one thing. Any other ideas are welcome.

Thanks

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in


From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:45:07 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:15:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Student/newbie talks
Message-ID: <87ocepu92k.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Hello everyone,
        One of the things we had planned is to have a "newbie"
track. This would contain talks by people with less experience on
simpler subjects. Students and new programmers would benefit from these.

        We'd need talks for this track as well so if there are students
on the list, please come forward and submit your talks. I've CCed Renuka
Prasad and Anil directly to spread the word at RV and MSRIT. 

Thanks.


-- 
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http://nibrahim.net.in


From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:53:31 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > what wrong? ( i am not telling that what they are doing is right )
> > what i am feeling is that he /she will attend the conference na ...
>
> It's an overhead. I don't think it's worth it. If they're serious about
> the conf., they can pay and enter. I don't think we need to accommodate
> such people.
>
> Was just wondering about earlier discussion about promoting in academic
institution for the success of conference and there were several suggestions
about using different kind of networks , in that context i was just willing
to express my concern about mentioning exclusively about the registration
specifically for people from Academic Institutions

But now i am just thinking to look once about the agenda of the conference ,
the home page anyways is not telling much , it tells that main target is
developers so u are right in that context ( correct me if i am wrong )  ...
are there any updations coming up..


> there can be so many possibilities , what if some of the students who
> > come to conference and start calling up their friends and they
> > suddenly come in 100's then ??
>
> Two things
> 1. While possible, I don't think this scenario is probable so it's not
>   worth discussing.
>



> 2. We'd get shafted. The extra people wouldn't get food, they wouldn't
>   get swag, we wouldn't be able to accommodate them and we'd be totally
>   messed up. I want these "some students" to hear about conf. *now* so
>   that they can call their friends and we'd get numbers in advance.
>
>
> > anyways there should be fair chance for every one
>
> For the people who are interested anyway.
>

> [...]
>
>
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From parth.technofreak at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 19:00:50 2010
From: parth.technofreak at gmail.com (Parthan S R)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:30:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Student/newbie talks
In-Reply-To: <87ocepu92k.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <87ocepu92k.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <4C2E1B42.5040300@gmail.com>

  On 7/2/2010 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>          One of the things we had planned is to have a "newbie"
> track. This would contain talks by people with less experience on
> simpler subjects. Students and new programmers would benefit from these.
>
>          We'd need talks for this track as well so if there are students
> on the list, please come forward and submit your talks. I've CCed Renuka
> Prasad and Anil directly to spread the word at RV and MSRIT.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
Last year Noufal, Kenneth and I conducted a series of talks on 
"Introduction to Python", with swapping of the beginner and advanced 
level sessions between us. This year the same can be taken up by 
students who have worked with Python, or even utilize the remaining two 
months to try Python and give a introductory talk on what all they have 
learnt so far.

One need not even prepare slides for this, just have a list of topics 
you would like to cover and give some examples for each during the live 
session. There will be mistakes but showing the audience how to make 
mistakes and fix them is very useful than example codes in slides that 
would just work; that's the real fun!

With Regards,
Parthan

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 19:00:56 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:30:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimx2OClBdPFh6pSQF9q_221juagsQGC7hkjUIGI@mail.gmail.com>
	(renuka prasad's message of "Fri, 2 Jul 2010 22:23:31 +0530")
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> But now i am just thinking to look once about the agenda of the
> conference , the home page anyways is not telling much , it tells that
> main target is developers so u are right in that context ( correct me
> if i am wrong ) ...  are there any updations coming up..

[...]

I don't think there will be any updates. The conference is for Python
developers (though not only professional ones - students who code or
want to are welcome as well) and enthusiasts.


-- 

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 19:37:06 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:07:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Student/newbie talks
In-Reply-To: <87ocepu92k.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <87ocepu92k.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbJjsyLKWXwAZMX-SprBhIPcuxf1qunDWlUjLz@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>        One of the things we had planned is to have a "newbie"
> track. This would contain talks by people with less experience on
> simpler subjects. Students and new programmers would benefit from these.
>
>        We'd need talks for this track as well so if there are students
> on the list, please come forward and submit your talks. I've CCed Renuka
> Prasad and Anil directly to spread the word at RV and MSRIT.
>
>
Naufal , we are organizing a 6 day workshop  Software Engineering for
Engineers and Scientists (SEES)". At the core of this course is the
Pythonprogramming language which is taught using a more practical
approach, sothat
students can use this knowledge immediately to solve problems across
Engineering domains.

FOSSEE team is coducting this workshop for about 50 students and 50
faculties from different colleges

after that we have a 3 day workshop on Django followed by 4 day workshop on
pylons in september I week , We are initiating some development activities
so these things are planned

unfortunately by that time the deadlines would have been over .. DO you have
any suggestions ?

till now i have no information about any faculty or student who is working
and is willing to share his / her experience in and around my contacts

i may need some more time to find if any body is there within the mentioned
deadlines

I feel the community has to still grow a bit , may be i am not aware of
exact facts also


Thanks.
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
>
>
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From mehul.n.ved at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 21:56:27 2010
From: mehul.n.ved at gmail.com (Mehul Ved)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:26:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
In-Reply-To: <87iq4yrxwr.fsf@gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTin5IqBamDA1ICBbAghRGScU0bshcvLm74Di3pGH@mail.gmail.com> 
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> We'll need people for each of the groups to take responsibility for that
> area.
> Someone needs to step up for Mumbai

I will take this up.

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul  3 01:37:04 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 05:07:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
In-Reply-To: <4C2DE0DD.9090804@lonetwin.net>
References: <AANLkTinDPHq0jfv09zQZ9gfI2dy3_hxUdCbARaSdlwOL@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <201007030507.04326.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 02 July 2010 18:21:41 steve wrote:
> I think 500 is fine. If it is mistaken as like a business tactic that's 
> unfortunate, but the difference has to be substantial to encourage online 
> registrations.

+1
> 
> >>  and i suggest to do some more classification, like Students ( Academic
> >>  Institutions ) and Others ( classify further if needed)
> >
> > This came up earlier. I was personally against it and if I remember, it
> > wasn't very popular on the list. The idea is that we'll keep the rates
> > low enough for students and make that the rate for everyone.
> 
> +1. Keep one rate. That also takes away the hassle of screening IDs. I am
>  sure  there are those out there who carry their student IDs from the
>  previous year to just try their luck at a discount -- not because they
>  can't afford to pay the regular amount. Even if the people manning the
>  registration desks are diligent and catch these, it still is wasted time
>  and effort.
> 

+1

-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul  3 01:39:33 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 05:09:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
In-Reply-To: <87k4pdu8c7.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Friday 02 July 2010 22:30:56 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > But now i am just thinking to look once about the agenda of the
> > conference , the home page anyways is not telling much , it tells that
> > main target is developers so u are right in that context ( correct me
> > if i am wrong ) ...  are there any updations coming up..
> 
> [...]
> 
> I don't think there will be any updates. The conference is for Python
> developers (though not only professional ones - students who code or
> want to are welcome as well) and enthusiasts.
> 

and I would like to repeat again, it is *not* and open source conference - and 
if you have any doubts about this please check out the main sponsor of pycon 
au. (have we approached them for sponsorship?)
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 10:12:10 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:42:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] David Goodger is our keynote speaker
Message-ID: <87tyohj86d.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        Anand and I have been speaking to David for a few days and he
has agreed to be our keynote speaker.
        
        The tentative plan is that he'll deliver the keynote
presentation on the first day in the morning. That will be
non-technical. Mostly focusing on the community aspects as well as the
PSF and PyCon in general.

        On the second day, he will be a delivering a techical
presentation on http://puzzler.sourceforge.net/ which is a project of
his.

        The talk plans are just a suggestion and he's open to
suggestions/ideas. If there are any, please mail the list. 

        I've made a mention of this on twitter, facebook, the website
and the blog (http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog). Please spread the word. 

        This years conference promises to be awesome. 

Thanks everyone.
        

        
        
-- 

From mehul.n.ved at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 10:21:48 2010
From: mehul.n.ved at gmail.com (Mehul Ved)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:51:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] David Goodger is our keynote speaker
In-Reply-To: <87tyohj86d.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87tyohj86d.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> ? ? ? ?I've made a mention of this on twitter, facebook, the website
> and the blog (http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog). Please spread the word.

Link to individual blog posts is broken. It redirects to home page.

From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 10:26:00 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:56:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: Student/newbie talks
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Student/newbie talks
To: renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>


Hello,
            i shall take this opportunity to my college and i hope we find
some speakers.


On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:07 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>        One of the things we had planned is to have a "newbie"
>> track. This would contain talks by people with less experience on
>> simpler subjects. Students and new programmers would benefit from these.
>>
>>        We'd need talks for this track as well so if there are students
>> on the list, please come forward and submit your talks. I've CCed Renuka
>> Prasad and Anil directly to spread the word at RV and MSRIT.
>>
>>
> Naufal , we are organizing a 6 day workshop  Software Engineering for
> Engineers and Scientists (SEES)". At the core of this course is the Pythonprogramming language which is taught using a more practical approach, sothat
> students can use this knowledge immediately to solve problems across
> Engineering domains.
>
> FOSSEE team is coducting this workshop for about 50 students and 50
> faculties from different colleges
>
> after that we have a 3 day workshop on Django followed by 4 day workshop on
> pylons in september I week , We are initiating some development activities
> so these things are planned
>
> unfortunately by that time the deadlines would have been over .. DO you
> have any suggestions ?
>
> till now i have no information about any faculty or student who is working
> and is willing to share his / her experience in and around my contacts
>
> i may need some more time to find if any body is there within the mentioned
> deadlines
>
> I feel the community has to still grow a bit , may be i am not aware of
> exact facts also
>
>
>  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>>
>>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 10:38:19 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:08:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] David Goodger is our keynote speaker
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikfKngCdChJNxAy77HJvhNk3wlf2Ym4b04CDT53@mail.gmail.com>
	(Mehul Ved's message of "Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:51:48 +0530")
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Mehul Ved <mehul.n.ved at gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ? ? ? ?I've made a mention of this on twitter, facebook, the website
>> and the blog (http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog). Please spread the word.
>
> Link to individual blog posts is broken. It redirects to home page.

The blog isn't 'rolled out' yet. Anand is still working on it. I just
put it there in case people look at it. 

[...]



-- 

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 17:39:50 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:09:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007030509.33267.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:

> On Friday 02 July 2010 22:30:56 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > > But now i am just thinking to look once about the agenda of the
> > > conference , the home page anyways is not telling much , it tells that
> > > main target is developers so u are right in that context ( correct me
> > > if i am wrong ) ...  are there any updations coming up..
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > I don't think there will be any updates. The conference is for Python
> > developers (though not only professional ones - students who code or
> > want to are welcome as well) and enthusiasts.
> >
>
> and I would like to repeat again, it is *not* and open source conference -
> and
> if you have any doubts about this please check out the main sponsor of
> pycon
> au. (have we approached them for sponsorship?)
>
ya i had seen this , and also the other similar kind of conferences

Good to endorse those who sponsor but, I just hope that not every activity
of the main sponsor ( M$ ) is endorsed


> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
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From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 18:08:45 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 21:38:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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a bit OT:

MS sponsored the coding event in our tech-fest (IIIT, Allahabad) and hired
the winner team (all 3 members). Big companies keep looking for
talents. They were even one of the sponsors of PyCon, Atlanta.  But AFAIK MS
India does not use python for any product of theirs. Why will they hunt for
pythonistas. However the whole thing boils down to - 'Will they sponsor us
?'. If yes, then there must be no issues.
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 18:17:46 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:47:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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This thread is getting off topic.

The only criteria for sponsors is whether they pay, whether they have an
interest in Python/Python related technologies and whether they let us
work without interfering.

Open Source/Free Software issues are not really germane to a "Python
language conference" regardless of what our personal feelings are. If
this is a deal breaker for anyone here, here's a warning that you're
going to see a lot more of this.

Let's stop it at that. I'll summarise the discussion on the whole
registration business and send an email tomorrow. We'll open it up for
Monday morning.

Good night.

-- 

From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 18:36:53 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:06:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations
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On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This thread is getting off topic.
>
> The only criteria for sponsors is whether they pay, whether they have an
> interest in Python/Python related technologies and whether they let us
> work without interfering.
>
> Open Source/Free Software issues are not really germane to a "Python
> language conference" regardless of what our personal feelings are. If
> this is a deal breaker for anyone here, here's a warning that you're
> going to see a lot more of this.
>
>
The whole community has been seeing  many things and is seeing many things
and will be seeing many more things ,There is nothing new ... Community is
aware of all these things .


Let's stop it at that. I'll summarise the discussion on the whole
> registration business and send an email tomorrow. We'll open it up for
> Monday morning.
>
> Good night.
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 11:34:01 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:04:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
Message-ID: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Hi everyone,
        Here's the plan unless someone brings up an absolute roadblock.
        
        We'll open the registrations tonight and start publicising
it. The rates are as follows. 
        
        - Early bird rates   : From July 6 to Aug 31 : 250 INR 
          - Pay before 31 Aug
          - This can be done either online using the website or using
            one of the offline registrations during the user group
            meetings.

        - Regular rates      : From Aug 31 to Sep 20 : 350 INR
          - Pay after Aug 31
          - This rate holds whether it's done online or offline. I'm not
            sure if there will be an offline gathering after 31 Aug
            though.

        - Spot registrations : At the desk on 25/26 Sep : 500 INR 
          - For people who just show up on that day.
          - Swag bags will be given only if there are leftovers
            (registered people are prioritised).
          - This rate is high and there's the "no swag punishment" to
            discourage people from doing this. 

        The rates are determined when people pay and not when they
register. 

        If there are groups who are concerned that there will be no way
for them to pay early (college students in remote areas), they're free
to hold a small local meet, gather the people there who are interested,
collect the money and let us know. We'll take care of marking them as
paid. 

        Offline extortion of registration fees can be done once in July
and once in August. We can take care of Bangalore. Kenneth/Kausik can
take of Chennai. Mehul has agreed to take care of Mumbai and Steve for
Pune.

        The details of how to integrate the doattend interface onto the
website are being dealt with by Anand C (external link, embedded form
etc.).

        Okay. That's that. If anyone objects, please raise your voice
now or forever hold your peace! If there are no objections, we'll roll
this out tonight and start publicising it. 

Thanks

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 11:38:38 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:08:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilVWghPdgAkbF9hv2rsPEAAx7RMKt_b3NoVOuR5@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/5 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi everyone,
> ? ? ? ?Here's the plan unless someone brings up an absolute roadblock.
>
> ? ? ? ?We'll open the registrations tonight and start publicising
> it. The rates are as follows.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Early bird rates ? : From July 6 to Aug 31 : 250 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- Pay before 31 Aug
> ? ? ? ? ?- This can be done either online using the website or using
> ? ? ? ? ? ?one of the offline registrations during the user group
> ? ? ? ? ? ?meetings.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Regular rates ? ? ?: From Aug 31 to Sep 20 : 350 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- Pay after Aug 31
> ? ? ? ? ?- This rate holds whether it's done online or offline. I'm not
> ? ? ? ? ? ?sure if there will be an offline gathering after 31 Aug
> ? ? ? ? ? ?though.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Spot registrations : At the desk on 25/26 Sep : 500 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- For people who just show up on that day.
> ? ? ? ? ?- Swag bags will be given only if there are leftovers
> ? ? ? ? ? ?(registered people are prioritised).
> ? ? ? ? ?- This rate is high and there's the "no swag punishment" to
> ? ? ? ? ? ?discourage people from doing this.
>
> ? ? ? ?The rates are determined when people pay and not when they
> register.
>
> ? ? ? ?If there are groups who are concerned that there will be no way
> for them to pay early (college students in remote areas), they're free
> to hold a small local meet, gather the people there who are interested,
> collect the money and let us know. We'll take care of marking them as
> paid.
>
> ? ? ? ?Offline extortion of registration fees can be done once in July
> and once in August. We can take care of Bangalore. Kenneth/Kausik can
> take of Chennai. Mehul has agreed to take care of Mumbai and Steve for
> Pune.
>
> ? ? ? ?The details of how to integrate the doattend interface onto the
> website are being dealt with by Anand C (external link, embedded form
> etc.).
>
> ? ? ? ?Okay. That's that. If anyone objects, please raise your voice
> now or forever hold your peace! If there are no objections, we'll roll
> this out tonight and start publicising it.

+1 from me.

Anand

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 11:53:41 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:23:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/5 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi everyone,
> ? ? ? ?Here's the plan unless someone brings up an absolute roadblock.
>
> ? ? ? ?We'll open the registrations tonight and start publicising
> it. The rates are as follows.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Early bird rates ? : From July 6 to Aug 31 : 250 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- Pay before 31 Aug
> ? ? ? ? ?- This can be done either online using the website or using
> ? ? ? ? ? ?one of the offline registrations during the user group
> ? ? ? ? ? ?meetings.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Regular rates ? ? ?: From Aug 31 to Sep 20 : 350 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- Pay after Aug 31
> ? ? ? ? ?- This rate holds whether it's done online or offline. I'm not
> ? ? ? ? ? ?sure if there will be an offline gathering after 31 Aug
> ? ? ? ? ? ?though.
>
> ? ? ? ?- Spot registrations : At the desk on 25/26 Sep : 500 INR
> ? ? ? ? ?- For people who just show up on that day.
> ? ? ? ? ?- Swag bags will be given only if there are leftovers
> ? ? ? ? ? ?(registered people are prioritised).
> ? ? ? ? ?- This rate is high and there's the "no swag punishment" to
> ? ? ? ? ? ?discourage people from doing this.
>
> ? ? ? ?The rates are determined when people pay and not when they
> register.
>
> ? ? ? ?If there are groups who are concerned that there will be no way
> for them to pay early (college students in remote areas), they're free
> to hold a small local meet, gather the people there who are interested,
> collect the money and let us know. We'll take care of marking them as
> paid.
>
> ? ? ? ?Offline extortion of registration fees can be done once in July
> and once in August. We can take care of Bangalore. Kenneth/Kausik can
> take of Chennai. Mehul has agreed to take care of Mumbai and Steve for
> Pune.
>
> ? ? ? ?The details of how to integrate the doattend interface onto the
> website are being dealt with by Anand C (external link, embedded form
> etc.).
>
> ? ? ? ?Okay. That's that. If anyone objects, please raise your voice
> now or forever hold your peace! If there are no objections, we'll roll
> this out tonight and start publicising it.

Since people are paying online, we need to clarify the terms &
conditions for cancellation of the registration.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 12:08:59 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:38:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Chitipothu's message of "Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:23:41 +0530")
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
	<AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87pqz29r5w.fsf@gmail.com>

Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:


[...]


> Since people are paying online, we need to clarify the terms &
> conditions for cancellation of the registration.

[...]

Yes. That's important. Can you fix up the site? I'll contact doattend to
see what we can do.


-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Mon Jul  5 12:24:03 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:09:03 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <87pqz29r5w.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
	<AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>
	<87pqz29r5w.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-eiZSuh0UM_oKC0meHBACOo9ItORI2TEEAr4m@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 15:53, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Since people are paying online, we need to clarify the terms &
>> conditions for cancellation of the registration.
>
> Yes. That's important. Can you fix up the site? I'll contact doattend to
> see what we can do.

Their site does not mention any "TOS-like statement" regarding data
mining registered users ---what information does doattend collect from
the person registering and how do they use this (or not)?, do they
store CC/DC numbers?, their spam policy?, etc...
http://www.doattend.com/pricing, has no information and I checked out
other pages which didnt give any more info either.

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 12:29:05 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:59:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-eiZSuh0UM_oKC0meHBACOo9ItORI2TEEAr4m@mail.gmail.com>
	(=?utf-8?B?IuCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyIncw==?= message of "Mon,
	5 Jul 2010 16:09:03 +0545")
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
	<AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>
	<87pqz29r5w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin-eiZSuh0UM_oKC0meHBACOo9ItORI2TEEAr4m@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87lj9q9q8e.fsf@gmail.com>

??????  <vid at svaksha.com> writes:
[...]

> Their site does not mention any "TOS-like statement" regarding data
> mining registered users ---what information does doattend collect from
> the person registering and how do they use this (or not)?, do they
> store CC/DC numbers?, their spam policy?, etc...
> http://www.doattend.com/pricing, has no information and I checked out
> other pages which didnt give any more info either.

Vivek brought this up when doattend was first mentioned and I believe he
had some details. I'm not sure though. I'll forward your email to them
for comments. 

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From vid at svaksha.com  Mon Jul  5 12:30:31 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:15:31 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Opening registrations.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-eiZSuh0UM_oKC0meHBACOo9ItORI2TEEAr4m@mail.gmail.com>
References: <871vbib7cm.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
	<AANLkTinrnKuj8Z7mMhHs93kl1pP-Zp8Xx6rwujamKLOy@mail.gmail.com>
	<87pqz29r5w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin-eiZSuh0UM_oKC0meHBACOo9ItORI2TEEAr4m@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimzmWBO3W30QBGY1_G2y1NAs75Ot42xEaSY4t60@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 16:09, ?????? <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 15:53, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Since people are paying online, we need to clarify the terms &
>>> conditions for cancellation of the registration.
>>
>> Yes. That's important. Can you fix up the site? I'll contact doattend to
>> see what we can do.
>
> Their site does not mention any "TOS-like statement" regarding data
> mining registered users ---what information does doattend collect from
> the person registering and how do they use this (or not)?, do they
> store CC/DC numbers?, their spam policy?, etc...
> http://www.doattend.com/pricing, has no information and I checked out
> other pages which didnt give any more info either.

I found a link, http://www.doattend.com/terms_and_conditions
(blink-and-you-miss-the-link-in-tiny-fonts-at-the-bottom-of-the-page)
but there is no mention of what they do (or dont do) with credit and
debit card numbers stored in the DB.

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 13:25:15 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:55:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] =?utf-8?q?Privacy_terms_from_Doattend_=28was=3A_=5BShal?=
 =?utf-8?b?aW4gSmFpbl0gUmU6IFsg4KS44KWN4KS14KSV4KWN4KS3IF0gUmU6ICBPcGVu?=
 =?utf-8?q?ing_registrations=2E=29?=
Message-ID: <877hla892c.fsf@gmail.com>


This is the email I got from Shalin.

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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 19:16:21 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:46:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
Message-ID: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        We need a T-shirt. 

        This is going to be the one thing (apart from word of mouth)
that will give us publicity *after* the conference. Therefore, it has to
reappy kick butt. Also, the designer will get to see her designs
wandering around the country for a whole year which is definitely good
publicity.

        A logo and a snappy T-shirt design are two things we need to come
up with. Needless to say, it would be highly preferred if someone from
the community itself came up with a design. If not, we'll have to pay a
professional artist to do it. That's a last resort and I'd rather not
blow cash on it. We had some nice submissions for the Badges and need
some nice ones for the T-shirt.

        A lot of people mailed me with cool badge ideas *after* we
decided on the badges. I'm announcing this now so that people have time
to work on something cool and exhibit it.

        The page to upload your contributions is
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork (I've made sections
for the T-shirt and logo).

        So, get the creative juices flowing and let's see what we can
come up with! If you have artist friends looking for free advertising,
let them know as well

Thanks
        
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From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 19:50:57 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:20:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/5 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hello everyone,
> ? ? ? ?We need a T-shirt.
>
> ? ? ? ?This is going to be the one thing (apart from word of mouth)
> that will give us publicity *after* the conference. Therefore, it has to
> reappy kick butt. Also, the designer will get to see her designs
> wandering around the country for a whole year which is definitely good
> publicity.
>
> ? ? ? ?A logo and a snappy T-shirt design are two things we need to come
> up with. Needless to say, it would be highly preferred if someone from
> the community itself came up with a design. If not, we'll have to pay a
> professional artist to do it. That's a last resort and I'd rather not
> blow cash on it. We had some nice submissions for the Badges and need
> some nice ones for the T-shirt.
>
> ? ? ? ?A lot of people mailed me with cool badge ideas *after* we
> decided on the badges. I'm announcing this now so that people have time
> to work on something cool and exhibit it.
>
> ? ? ? ?The page to upload your contributions is
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork (I've made sections
> for the T-shirt and logo).
>
> ? ? ? ?So, get the creative juices flowing and let's see what we can
> come up with! If you have artist friends looking for free advertising,
> let them know as well

I think we should write a blog post about this.. The website/twitter
is accessible to more people than this mailing list.

Anand

From in3xes at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 19:53:40 2010
From: in3xes at gmail.com (Pradeepkumar Gayam)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:23:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik12_HUrf1XxoeMwyWr9Pi7I1B-E_6fgU869ecL@mail.gmail.com>

Is the T-Shirt only for organizers or for the participants too?

Thanks
Pradeep


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2010/7/5 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >        We need a T-shirt.
> >
> >        This is going to be the one thing (apart from word of mouth)
> > that will give us publicity *after* the conference. Therefore, it has to
> > reappy kick butt. Also, the designer will get to see her designs
> > wandering around the country for a whole year which is definitely good
> > publicity.
> >
> >        A logo and a snappy T-shirt design are two things we need to come
> > up with. Needless to say, it would be highly preferred if someone from
> > the community itself came up with a design. If not, we'll have to pay a
> > professional artist to do it. That's a last resort and I'd rather not
> > blow cash on it. We had some nice submissions for the Badges and need
> > some nice ones for the T-shirt.
> >
> >        A lot of people mailed me with cool badge ideas *after* we
> > decided on the badges. I'm announcing this now so that people have time
> > to work on something cool and exhibit it.
> >
> >        The page to upload your contributions is
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork (I've made sections
> > for the T-shirt and logo).
> >
> >        So, get the creative juices flowing and let's see what we can
> > come up with! If you have artist friends looking for free advertising,
> > let them know as well
>
> I think we should write a blog post about this.. The website/twitter
> is accessible to more people than this mailing list.
>
> Anand
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From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 19:56:16 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:26:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik12_HUrf1XxoeMwyWr9Pi7I1B-E_6fgU869ecL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTik12_HUrf1XxoeMwyWr9Pi7I1B-E_6fgU869ecL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimEUYgOdLLmPOnzuff_bOxNQaduJ0z_rE4Q5GRn@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/5 Pradeepkumar Gayam <in3xes at gmail.com>:
> Is the T-Shirt only for organizers or for the participants too?

It is for all the participants.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 20:34:38 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:04:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Chitipothu's message of "Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:20:57 +0530")
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	<AANLkTinxE7MM9JWAH4tbRiFhJ1-WQZj1JvfDyGMjY3SC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87mxu5rd4x.fsf@gmail.com>

Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> I think we should write a blog post about this.. The website/twitter
> is accessible to more people than this mailing list.

[...]

Forgot about the blog. I tweeted it though.


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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 20:28:01 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:58:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik12_HUrf1XxoeMwyWr9Pi7I1B-E_6fgU869ecL@mail.gmail.com>
	(Pradeepkumar Gayam's message of "Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:23:40 +0530")
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Pradeepkumar Gayam <in3xes at gmail.com> writes:

> Is the T-Shirt only for organizers or for the participants too?

[...]

It's for everyone who attends the conference. 

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From in3xes at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 21:03:11 2010
From: in3xes at gmail.com (Pradeepkumar Gayam)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 00:33:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <87r5jhrdfy.fsf@gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTik12_HUrf1XxoeMwyWr9Pi7I1B-E_6fgU869ecL@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87r5jhrdfy.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilTLwJQV-smT7vgWFmV2IPvgs0lsrv4IHGhbW2x@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pradeepkumar Gayam <in3xes at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Is the T-Shirt only for organizers or for the participants too?
>
> [...]
>
> It's for everyone who attends the conference.
>
> Cool !

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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 13:24:24 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:54:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
Message-ID: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>


What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?

I think they're a lot more interesting than just a T-shirt with a slogan
on it but then people have threatened to physically harm me for my
sartorial tastes.

We could trim it to a strip at the bottom similar to
http://www.sheeck.me/content/cheat-skirt and keep the logo on the
chest. 

Opinions?


-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 13:35:44 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:05:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinph8F8Yi_kbnNWfWJYwZ0lySAcHBNVIGEo0qPU@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
> http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?
>
> I think they're a lot more interesting than just a T-shirt with a slogan
> on it but then people have threatened to physically harm me for my
> sartorial tastes.
>

+1 for a Python Cheat Shirt. It could be a tremendous
marketing boost since none seems to have done something
like it in any Python conf yet.

I can help with the list of cheats and tricks.


> We could trim it to a strip at the bottom similar to
> http://www.sheeck.me/content/cheat-skirt and keep the logo on the
> chest.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 13:42:41 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:12:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinph8F8Yi_kbnNWfWJYwZ0lySAcHBNVIGEo0qPU@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Balachandran Pillai's message of "Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:05:44
	+0530")
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinph8F8Yi_kbnNWfWJYwZ0lySAcHBNVIGEo0qPU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87tyockf9q.fsf@gmail.com>

Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
>> http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?
>>
>> I think they're a lot more interesting than just a T-shirt with a slogan
>> on it but then people have threatened to physically harm me for my
>> sartorial tastes.
>>
>
> +1 for a Python Cheat Shirt. It could be a tremendous
> marketing boost since none seems to have done something
> like it in any Python conf yet.

Ah. I'm not the only one who thinks like this. Good good.  The only
thing I've seen of this kind in the US PyCon was a "cheat mug" from
Sauce Labs. 

> I can help with the list of cheats and tricks.

Cool. One thing that I frequently have to refer back to manual pages for
are the various format specifiers. Some of them that come to mind are.
 - Logging formatter keys.
 - String formatting specifiers (especially the .format thing with the
   new strings).        
 - struct/array module type specifiers.

Apart from that, we could have idioms like "Reverse a string with
x[::-1]" etc.

[...]



-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Tue Jul  6 14:02:42 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:47:42 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <87tyockf9q.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinph8F8Yi_kbnNWfWJYwZ0lySAcHBNVIGEo0qPU@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tyockf9q.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 17:27, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
>>> http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?
>>>

Its a cool idea. And can we have black-colored** tees?

** Any color tee (except white) please.


> thing I've seen of this kind in the US PyCon was a "cheat mug" from
> Sauce Labs.

Didnt you see the pycon tee's from earlier years? -- the xkcd comic
strip was printed on the back.

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:17:35 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:47:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimD9hbpHIuXgJIQQewUVvXiALnZs3vBstbuVSk1@mail.gmail.com>
	(=?utf-8?B?IuCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyIncw==?= message of "Tue,
	6 Jul 2010 17:47:42 +0545")
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinph8F8Yi_kbnNWfWJYwZ0lySAcHBNVIGEo0qPU@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tyockf9q.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimD9hbpHIuXgJIQQewUVvXiALnZs3vBstbuVSk1@mail.gmail.com>
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??????  <vid at svaksha.com> writes:

[...]

>> thing I've seen of this kind in the US PyCon was a "cheat mug" from
>> Sauce Labs.
>
> Didnt you see the pycon tee's from earlier years? -- the xkcd comic
> strip was printed on the back.

Yes. That wasn't a cheat shirt though. 

-- 

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:24:02 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:54:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinI3BuPgnguYsbC8yb8nTjLp8DO6js7hyIefsOs@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
> http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?
>
> I think they're a lot more interesting than just a T-shirt with a slogan
> on it but then people have threatened to physically harm me for my
> sartorial tastes.
>
> We could trim it to a strip at the bottom similar to
> http://www.sheeck.me/content/cheat-skirt and keep the logo on the
> chest.
>
> Opinions?
>
> +1 for this idea

-- 
**********************************
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http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog
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From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 14:51:21 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:21:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinI3BuPgnguYsbC8yb8nTjLp8DO6js7hyIefsOs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
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+1 for cheat sheet
+1 for black tees

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:54 PM, JAGANADH G <jaganadhg at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> What does everyone feel about a T-shirt like this
>> http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt ?
>>
>> I think they're a lot more interesting than just a T-shirt with a slogan
>> on it but then people have threatened to physically harm me for my
>> sartorial tastes.
>>
>> We could trim it to a strip at the bottom similar to
>> http://www.sheeck.me/content/cheat-skirt and keep the logo on the
>> chest.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> +1 for this idea
>
> --
> **********************************
> JAGANADH G
> http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog
>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 15:23:28 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 18:53:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilalKL0UL0JB9Poa20Ier6GFK0-I7FE5ihYkh-I@mail.gmail.com>
	(Shashwat Anand's message of "Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:21:21 +0530")
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Shashwat Anand <anand.shashwat at gmail.com> writes:

> +1 for cheat sheet
> +1 for black tees

[...]

Well, if it's going to be a cheatshirt, it simply *has* to be black with
a bright green
font. http://db.tidbits.com/resources/2008-11/green-on-black.png

Okay. So we have an idea. Suggestions for the design? 

Thanks.


-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 07:33:31 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:03:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of "Mon, 05
	Jul 2010 22:46:21 +0530")
References: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <871vbfsvo4.fsf@gmail.com>


Where are the artists amongst us? We really need something good on this
front. 

Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> writes:

> Hello everyone,
>         We need a T-shirt. 
>
>         This is going to be the one thing (apart from word of mouth)
> that will give us publicity *after* the conference. Therefore, it has to
> reappy kick butt. Also, the designer will get to see her designs
> wandering around the country for a whole year which is definitely good
> publicity.
>
>         A logo and a snappy T-shirt design are two things we need to come
> up with. Needless to say, it would be highly preferred if someone from
> the community itself came up with a design. If not, we'll have to pay a
> professional artist to do it. That's a last resort and I'd rather not
> blow cash on it. We had some nice submissions for the Badges and need
> some nice ones for the T-shirt.
>
>         A lot of people mailed me with cool badge ideas *after* we
> decided on the badges. I'm announcing this now so that people have time
> to work on something cool and exhibit it.
>
>         The page to upload your contributions is
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork (I've made sections
> for the T-shirt and logo).
>
>         So, get the creative juices flowing and let's see what we can
> come up with! If you have artist friends looking for free advertising,
> let them know as well
>
> Thanks

-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 08:57:17 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:27:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
Message-ID: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>


The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!

Please spread the word. Someone please forward this information to
BangPypers, ChennaiPy, Mumpy, Kerala group and any other groups that
you're one. 

Thanks.

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Jul  7 09:51:13 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 13:21:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007071321.13781.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 07 July 2010 12:27:17 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
> 

is it possible for doattend not to send html mails? went straight into my spam 
folder!
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From vid at svaksha.com  Wed Jul  7 10:21:50 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:06:50 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>

http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
for doattend to know the following: Gender*,  Organization*, Job
Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
irrelevant for doattend, imho.

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From shalinjain at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 10:53:25 2010
From: shalinjain at gmail.com (Shalin Jain)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:23:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiksJ2KaF2KSDM7ABxplzKOMgd9dNmmoxrcQWwpJ@mail.gmail.com>

The form is customizable and the field shown are fields set by PyCon
not DoAttend.

Shalin Jain
http://twitter.com/shalin10



On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:51 PM, ?????? <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
>> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
>> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>>
>
> http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
> mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
> for doattend to know the following: Gender*, ?Organization*, Job
> Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
> dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
> T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
> the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
> valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
> irrelevant for doattend, imho.
>
> --
> peace,
> vid || http://svaksha.com
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>

From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 11:30:36 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:00:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikF-z7_KSjc532EB1ocp17-NHLmRs6H_PpxAzU0@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/7 ?????? <vid at svaksha.com>:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
>> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
>> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>>
>
> http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
> mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
> for doattend to know the following: Gender*, ?Organization*, Job
> Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
> dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
> T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
> the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
> valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
> irrelevant for doattend, imho.

I added that thinking that knowing number of male and female
participant will be useful. I'm not sure if we are going to print
women-tees.

Do you have any objections?

Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 12:31:37 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:01:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikF-z7_KSjc532EB1ocp17-NHLmRs6H_PpxAzU0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikX578_6Pyrp8ed_g3gnVTsg32RmAB3z5w7rNqZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikF-z7_KSjc532EB1ocp17-NHLmRs6H_PpxAzU0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimu7w_VrfcNnyN_Q1zdbtg-cri3fFy0x9JoNk1C@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2010/7/7 ?????? <vid at svaksha.com>:
> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
> >> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
> >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
> >>
> >
> > http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
> > mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
> > for doattend to know the following: Gender*,  Organization*, Job
> > Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
> > dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
> > T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
> > the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
> > valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
> > irrelevant for doattend, imho.
>


 It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.

 I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
 to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.

 If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
 option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
 about...




>
> I added that thinking that knowing number of male and female
> participant will be useful. I'm not sure if we are going to print
> women-tees.
>
> Do you have any objections?
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 12:37:32 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:07:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimu7w_VrfcNnyN_Q1zdbtg-cri3fFy0x9JoNk1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87pqyzpynm.fsf@gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTikF-z7_KSjc532EB1ocp17-NHLmRs6H_PpxAzU0@mail.gmail.com>
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A few issues with the form - sorry if I am coming late on this one.

1. Name => Should be "Full Name"
2. Country => Should be a selection option from a list of countries
 with INDIA as default. This shouldn't be a text input field.

And I don't think we need to elaborate so much on
the lesser chances of getting a T-shirt for on-spot registrations.
This is a part of the ticket print out and it looks odd.

--Anand

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> 2010/7/7 ?????? <vid at svaksha.com>:
>> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
>> >> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
>> >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>> >>
>> >
>> > http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
>> > mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
>> > for doattend to know the following: Gender*,  Organization*, Job
>> > Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
>> > dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
>> > T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
>> > the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
>> > valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
>> > irrelevant for doattend, imho.
>>
>
>
>  It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.
>
>  I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
>  to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
>
>  If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
>  option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
>  about...
>
>
>
>
>>
>> I added that thinking that knowing number of male and female
>> participant will be useful. I'm not sure if we are going to print
>> women-tees.
>>
>> Do you have any objections?
>>
>> Anand
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>


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From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 12:40:00 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:10:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
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Also the registrations pay says this...

"such delegates will get the T-shirt only if there are leftovers."

"leftovers" is demeaning. Can we change it to
"such delegates will get T-shirts only based on availability"

Thanks

--Anand


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> A few issues with the form - sorry if I am coming late on this one.
>
> 1. Name => Should be "Full Name"
> 2. Country => Should be a selection option from a list of countries
>  with INDIA as default. This shouldn't be a text input field.
>
> And I don't think we need to elaborate so much on
> the lesser chances of getting a T-shirt for on-spot registrations.
> This is a part of the ticket print out and it looks odd.
>
> --Anand
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> 2010/7/7 ?????? <vid at svaksha.com>:
>>> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
>>> >> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
>>> >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
>>> > mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
>>> > for doattend to know the following: Gender*,  Organization*, Job
>>> > Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
>>> > dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
>>> > T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
>>> > the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
>>> > valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
>>> > irrelevant for doattend, imho.
>>>
>>
>>
>>  It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.
>>
>>  I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
>>  to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
>>
>>  If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
>>  option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
>>  about...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I added that thinking that knowing number of male and female
>>> participant will be useful. I'm not sure if we are going to print
>>> women-tees.
>>>
>>> Do you have any objections?
>>>
>>> Anand
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>


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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:02:25 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:32:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> Also the registrations pay says this...
>
> "such delegates will get the T-shirt only if there are leftovers."
>
> "leftovers" is demeaning. Can we change it to
> "such delegates will get T-shirts only based on availability"

[...]

Fixed that. 

-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:07:08 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:37:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> 2010/7/7 ?????? <vid at svaksha.com>:
>> > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:42, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The registrations for the conference are offically open as per what we
>> >> discussed on email. The link to the blog post with the details is here
>> >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/blog/6-Registrations-are-open!
>> >>
>> >
>> > http://pyconindia2010.doattend.com/orders/embed_register, has
>> > mandatory fields marked with an asterisk. Is there a compulsive reason
>> > for doattend to know the following: Gender*,  Organization*, Job
>> > Title*, City* ? For the last 3 fields you can fill anything if you
>> > dont wish to give details but not so for the gender field --The
>> > T-Shirt Size does not have a listing for Womens-tees so why insist on
>> > the knowing the "Gender" of a registrant? As long as the email id is
>> > valid and the payment goes through, personal details are totally
>> > irrelevant for doattend, imho.
>>
>
>
>  It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.

Yes. People have asked last year about the number of female participants
and with the new diversity statement in place, it's a useful statistic. 

Given the fact that we're trying to grow the language, it's also useful
to know organisation, job title and city.

>  I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
>  to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
>
>  If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
>  option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
>  about...

Yup. Forgive me if I sound rash but I think many of these anonymity
concerns are just plain annoying and don't really serve any purpose.

[...]


-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Wed Jul  7 13:44:15 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:29:15 +0545
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 16:22, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> A few issues with the form - sorry if I am coming late on this one.
>
> 1. Name => Should be "Full Name"
> 2. Country => Should be a selection option from a list of countries
> ?with INDIA as default. This shouldn't be a text input field.

[............]

>> ?It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.
>>
>> ?I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
>> ?to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
>>
>> ?If we want to be very politically correct, provide a? "None of these"
>> ?option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
>> ?about...

I get the fact that organizers want statistics -- I do have thoughts**
on this but lets leave that discussion for another day.  Rather, more
than being PC, its a question of individual choice that is not present
when you enforce irrelevant requirements like "Gender" or "Full Name".

Can someone enlighten me how these are even relevant to me wanting to
just pay for (and hence attend) the pycon-india conference? Sponsors
rarely have use for an attendees "full name, gender, city, etc...".
Most times its just the email id which they are after.

To give you an example, if a user enters gibberish in the fields for
"organisation, job title and city" the system will still accept the
registration. Sorry if that sounds antagonistic to what you are trying
to achieve but I wanted to point out the lacunae therein.  If the data
collection is to improve the inpycon marketing then a question like
"Where did you hear about Pycon India?" -- at school/university,
mailing list, blog/twitter...etc.... seems more relevant.  Anyway, I
dont see this discussion going anywhere. *sigh*


** Folks are free to think its irrelevant to allow the attendee to
choose. Why? because there is now a need to show numbers? That I've
suddenly been reduced to a number to demonstrate an increase in
diversity (or whatever else you want to call it) is the scary bit. The
latter starts with listening, for which I'm seeing few takers.

</thinking out loud>

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From mails at anirudh.ind.in  Wed Jul  7 14:01:01 2010
From: mails at anirudh.ind.in (Anirudh Asokan)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:31:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] +1 for cheat shirt
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8tUq8uU7j_Yd57ZJB0r5t5-CQm8pNKIlmb2ZN@mail.gmail.com>

-- 
Cheers,
Anirudh Asokan
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From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:33:34 +0530
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:14 PM, ?????? <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 16:22, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > A few issues with the form - sorry if I am coming late on this one.
> >
> > 1. Name => Should be "Full Name"
> > 2. Country => Should be a selection option from a list of countries
> >  with INDIA as default. This shouldn't be a text input field.
>
> [............]
>
> >>  It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.
> >>
> >>  I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
> >>  to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
> >>
> >>  If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
> >>  option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
> >>  about...
>
> I get the fact that organizers want statistics -- I do have thoughts**
> on this but lets leave that discussion for another day.  Rather, more
> than being PC, its a question of individual choice that is not present
> when you enforce irrelevant requirements like "Gender" or "Full Name".
>
> Can someone enlighten me how these are even relevant to me wanting to
> just pay for (and hence attend) the pycon-india conference? Sponsors
> rarely have use for an attendees "full name, gender, city, etc...".
> Most times its just the email id which they are after.
>
> To give you an example, if a user enters gibberish in the fields for
> "organisation, job title and city" the system will still accept the
> registration. Sorry if that sounds antagonistic to what you are trying
> to achieve but I wanted to point out the lacunae therein.  If the data
> collection is to improve the inpycon marketing then a question like
> "Where did you hear about Pycon India?" -- at school/university,
> mailing list, blog/twitter...etc.... seems more relevant.  Anyway, I
> dont see this discussion going anywhere. *sigh*
>
>
> ** Folks are free to think its irrelevant to allow the attendee to
> choose. Why? because there is now a need to show numbers? That I've
> suddenly been reduced to a number to demonstrate an increase in
> diversity (or whatever else you want to call it) is the scary bit. The
> latter starts with listening, for which I'm seeing few takers.
>
> </thinking out loud>
>
<humble comment on the discussion>
Rather than the *Gender Number Person or Statistics* we have many other
tasks to be finished related to the conference.
Lets try to do the best for attaining those goal.
</humble comment on the discussion>
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 14:19:00 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:49:00 +0530
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 5:14 PM, ?????? <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 16:22, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> > A few issues with the form - sorry if I am coming late on this one.
> >
> > 1. Name => Should be "Full Name"
> > 2. Country => Should be a selection option from a list of countries
> >  with INDIA as default. This shouldn't be a text input field.
>
> [............]
>
> >>  It is not used for T sizes, just for statistics.
> >>
> >>  I dont know why this is a problem. I think most of us belong
> >>  to one or the other, so it should be an easy option to fill.
> >>
> >>  If we want to be very politically correct, provide a  "None of these"
> >>  option also, but hey there are other important things to worry
> >>  about...
>
> I get the fact that organizers want statistics -- I do have thoughts**
> on this but lets leave that discussion for another day.  Rather, more
> than being PC, its a question of individual choice that is not present
> when you enforce irrelevant requirements like "Gender" or "Full Name".
>
> Can someone enlighten me how these are even relevant to me wanting to
> just pay for (and hence attend) the pycon-india conference? Sponsors
> rarely have use for an attendees "full name, gender, city, etc...".
> Most times its just the email id which they are after.
>
> To give you an example, if a user enters gibberish in the fields for
> "organisation, job title and city" the system will still accept the
> registration. Sorry if that sounds antagonistic to what you are trying
> to achieve but I wanted to point out the lacunae therein.  If the data
> collection is to improve the inpycon marketing then a question like
> "Where did you hear about Pycon India?" -- at school/university,
> mailing list, blog/twitter...etc.... seems more relevant.  Anyway, I
> dont see this discussion going anywhere. *sigh*
>

 Anyone can game the system as long as they want to.
 The assumption is that the person wants to enter his real
 name, sex, company, occupation etc so as to help the
 conference organizers to identify him/her/<neutral gender>
 in the DB as well as in real life correctly.

 And we find this rings true for most people. I should know since
 I spent the week-end writing a script to auto-invite all delegates
 of last year. Only one entry did I find where the person had given
 apparently junk values!

 Inviting historical delegates is one example where we can put
 such data to good use. I would prefer to invite John Doe
 addressing him/her/<neutral gender> as "Hi Jon Doe" in my
 email to add the personal touch rather than "Hi Delegate".

 In fact that is what I did when I wrote the Python script to
 do the job. I even wrote code to find out correct first/last names
 and to capitalize name correctly and I am happy with the results.
 Around 3-4 of the invitees replied back telling "Yes, I will be
 attending" because it was very close to a personal invitation.


>
> ** Folks are free to think its irrelevant to allow the attendee to
> choose. Why? because there is now a need to show numbers? That I've
> suddenly been reduced to a number to demonstrate an increase in
> diversity (or whatever else you want to call it) is the scary bit. The
> latter starts with listening, for which I'm seeing few takers.
>
> </thinking out loud>
>

 Right now we need help with more urgent issues. For example, if
 you can help to double our talk proposals then I will be ready to lend
 a more favourable ear to what I perceive as side or minor issues for
 the time being.


>
> --
> peace,
> vid || http://svaksha.com
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


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From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:50:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Registrations open
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??????  <vid at svaksha.com> writes:

[...]

>  Anyway, I dont see this discussion going anywhere. *sigh*

[...]

Ditto. 

Take away : Registrations are open. Do register and spread the word in general.


-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:48:09 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:18:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] IRC meeting : Prizes for talks
Message-ID: <87wrt74d46.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        This was something that came up during the f2f we had or later
(I don't remember exactly when).
        
        The idea was that for the "hello world" track where the
speakers/audience will mostly be beginners, we can have a prize for
"best talk". Probably some piece of electronics or something.

        We need to flesh this out so I propose an IRC meeting tomorrow
(8 Jul) night at 2100 hours. 
        Server  : irc.freenode.net
        Channel : #inpycon
        
        My IRC nick is Khmar (an artifact of my RPG days). Do reply back
if you're attending

Thanks

-- 

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:55:21 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:25:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] IRC meeting : Prizes for talks
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>        This was something that came up during the f2f we had or later
> (I don't remember exactly when).
>
>        The idea was that for the "hello world" track where the
> speakers/audience will mostly be beginners, we can have a prize for
> "best talk". Probably some piece of electronics or something.
>
>        We need to flesh this out so I propose an IRC meeting tomorrow
> (8 Jul) night at 2100 hours.
>        Server  : irc.freenode.net
>        Channel : #inpycon
>
>        My IRC nick is Khmar (an artifact of my RPG days). Do reply back
> if you're attending
>
> +1
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:56:15 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:26:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] IRC meeting : Prizes for talks
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>        This was something that came up during the f2f we had or later
> (I don't remember exactly when).
>
>        The idea was that for the "hello world" track where the
> speakers/audience will mostly be beginners, we can have a prize for
> "best talk". Probably some piece of electronics or something.
>
>        We need to flesh this out so I propose an IRC meeting tomorrow
> (8 Jul) night at 2100 hours.
>        Server  : irc.freenode.net
>        Channel : #inpycon
>
>        My IRC nick is Khmar (an artifact of my RPG days). Do reply back
> if you're attending
>
>
+1


> Thanks
>
> --
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 17:00:08 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:30:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] IRC meeting : Prizes for talks
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktSX0u60O2cjJfoStrdbjdUmU4ftMua7h0N4pl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87wrt74d46.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiktSX0u60O2cjJfoStrdbjdUmU4ftMua7h0N4pl@mail.gmail.com>
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+1 this is very good gesture hopefully we get good proposals.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>        This was something that came up during the f2f we had or later
>> (I don't remember exactly when).
>>
>>        The idea was that for the "hello world" track where the
>> speakers/audience will mostly be beginners, we can have a prize for
>> "best talk". Probably some piece of electronics or something.
>>
>>        We need to flesh this out so I propose an IRC meeting tomorrow
>> (8 Jul) night at 2100 hours.
>>        Server  : irc.freenode.net
>>        Channel : #inpycon
>>
>>        My IRC nick is Khmar (an artifact of my RPG days). Do reply back
>> if you're attending
>>
>>
> +1
>
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:18:19 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 23:48:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>

hello all,
                 following link is  a logo created by a student at MSRIT .


http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=PYcontypo.JPG


please give your feedback. thank you

regards,
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From b.ghose at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:23:06 2010
From: b.ghose at gmail.com (Baishampayan Ghose)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 23:53:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3y2QAq6Yf6B2mDpMphy2Ha_3hdnqhARyRkR2M@mail.gmail.com>

> ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? following link is ?a logo created by a student at MSRIT .
> ?http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=PYcontypo.JPG
> please give your feedback. thank you

Hmm. It seems the code is from the letters logic game created by
Andrew Kuchling. Any specific reason behind that? I am also not sure
how it will look when it's printed on a T'Shirt or any similar low-res
medium.

Regards,
BG

-- 
Baishampayan Ghose
b.ghose at gmail.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 21:56:00 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 01:26:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	(anil kumar's message of "Wed, 7 Jul 2010 23:48:19 +0530")
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87bpajm5gv.fsf@gmail.com>

anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com> writes:

> hello all,
>                  following link is  a logo created by a student at MSRIT .
>
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=PYcontypo.JPG

[...]

It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
medium (like a T-shirt).

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 06:16:43 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:46:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <87bpajm5gv.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87bpajm5gv.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/8 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> hello all,
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?following link is ?a logo created by a student at MSRIT .
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=PYcontypo.JPG
>
> [...]
>
> It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
> medium (like a T-shirt).

I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
national emblem for any non-government work.

http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/STATE_EMBLEM_ACT2005.pdf

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul  8 06:28:55 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:58:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<87bpajm5gv.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
> > medium (like a T-shirt).
> 
> I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
> national emblem for any non-government work.
> 

I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national symbol) at 
once - it is illegal
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul  8 06:35:21 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:05:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <201007081005.22100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
> > > medium (like a T-shirt).
> >
> > 
> > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
> > national emblem for any non-government work.
> > 
> 
> I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national symbol)
>  at  once - it is illegal
> 

not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is the 
white space that we all know and love?
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 06:43:38 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:13:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <201007081013.38725.kunal.t2@gmail.com>

Hi all, 
I am working on a t-shirt design , since i am new to this(designing stuff ) i  
am going slow, i will finish it by the day's end.

Can i put my entry in too ?

regards,

From zubin.mithra at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 06:43:16 2010
From: zubin.mithra at gmail.com (Zubin Mithra)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:13:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007081005.22100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<201007081005.22100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikK21N1L2rtwjobxV-33d1uHriirGQBdt5Jkqiu@mail.gmail.com>

>
> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
> > > > medium (like a T-shirt).
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
> > > national emblem for any non-government work.
> > >
> >
> > I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national symbol)
> >  at  once - it is illegal
> >
>
> not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is
> the
> white space that we all know and love?
>
>
It is understandable if there are legal issues with the logo, but speaking
for myself, this logo just became my favorite. :)

zm
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 07:04:43 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:34:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007081013.38725.kunal.t2@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<201007081013.38725.kunal.t2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin_hEeu4s99HktkdC9G8v8CHPYDyzw9GhFJr-Iu@mail.gmail.com>

Sure you can.

On 7/8/10, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am working on a t-shirt design , since i am new to this(designing stuff )
> i
> am going slow, i will finish it by the day's end.
>
> Can i put my entry in too ?
>
> regards,
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


-- 
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http://nibrahim.net.in

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 06:35:16 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:05:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt design
Message-ID: <201007081005.17387.kunal.t2@gmail.com>

Hi all, 
I am working on a t-shirt design , since i am new to this(designing stuff ) i  
am going slow, i will finish it by the day's end.

Can i put my entry in too ?

regards,

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 07:38:34 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:08:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt design
In-Reply-To: <201007081005.17387.kunal.t2@gmail.com> (kunal ghosh's message of
	"Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:05:16 +0530")
References: <201007081005.17387.kunal.t2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8739vumt2d.fsf@gmail.com>

kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi all, 
> I am working on a t-shirt design , since i am new to this(designing stuff ) i  
> am going slow, i will finish it by the day's end.
>
> Can i put my entry in too ?

[...]

Please do. 

-- 

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 08:48:30 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:18:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuWGcAwOxUZuHVEU5eTbsZETw61bd_pCTsSUz3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<201007081013.38725.kunal.t2@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin_hEeu4s99HktkdC9G8v8CHPYDyzw9GhFJr-Iu@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuWGcAwOxUZuHVEU5eTbsZETw61bd_pCTsSUz3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMhSC4j6v-wM9d2D5gD_tDILSVsSyVfNkirxkJ@mail.gmail.com>

T-shirt design for PyCon India 2010
The Front design : http://imagebin.ca/view/23W4Ks.html
The Back design : http://imagebin.ca/view/vI7AFL.html

PS: The Quote at the back is the email signature of Mr Asokan Pichai (FOSSEE
Team) due Credits.



>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure you can.
>>
>> On 7/8/10, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > I am working on a t-shirt design , since i am new to this(designing
>> stuff )
>> > i
>> > am going slow, i will finish it by the day's end.
>> >
>> > Can i put my entry in too ?
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Inpycon mailing list
>> > Inpycon at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> regards
> -------
> Kunal Ghosh
> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> Sir MVIT
> Bangalore,India
>
> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
>
>
>


-- 
regards
-------
Kunal Ghosh
Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
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From steve at lonetwin.net  Thu Jul  8 09:05:24 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:35:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] T-shirt/Logo designs
In-Reply-To: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5psvbu.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C3578B4.4000404@lonetwin.net>

Hi,

On 07/05/2010 10:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>          We need a T-shirt.
>
>          This is going to be the one thing (apart from word of mouth)
> that will give us publicity *after* the conference. Therefore, it has to
> reappy kick butt. Also, the designer will get to see her designs
> wandering around the country for a whole year which is definitely good
> publicity.
>

I am not a designer, even lesser of an artist, so I can't really create 
something, but i had 2 concepts that someone could possibly use ...

a. Work on the concept of a traditional India snake charmer -- it is the 
/Indian/ _Python_ conference after all :)

b. A snake being used as a turban, with the quote - "Python fits my brain"[1]. 
The turban gives it an Indian feel, the quote is just precise and succinct for 
most of us.

cheers,
- steve

[1] a quick google [http://www.google.com/search?q=python+"fits+my+brain"] shows 
that the phrase featured as the quote of the week once on c.l.py:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/2004-August/003318.html

-- 
random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/
what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 09:38:29 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:08:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimMhSC4j6v-wM9d2D5gD_tDILSVsSyVfNkirxkJ@mail.gmail.com>
	(kunal ghosh's message of "Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:18:30 +0530")
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<201007081013.38725.kunal.t2@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin_hEeu4s99HktkdC9G8v8CHPYDyzw9GhFJr-Iu@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuWGcAwOxUZuHVEU5eTbsZETw61bd_pCTsSUz3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimMhSC4j6v-wM9d2D5gD_tDILSVsSyVfNkirxkJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87zky2l8y2.fsf@gmail.com>

kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:

> T-shirt design for PyCon India 2010
> The Front design : http://imagebin.ca/view/23W4Ks.html
> The Back design : http://imagebin.ca/view/vI7AFL.html
>
> PS: The Quote at the back is the email signature of Mr Asokan Pichai (FOSSEE
> Team) due Credits.

[...]

Can you upload these designs onto the wiki at
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?

Some personal comments. These are not objective. I think the designs are
a little heavy with the artwork and colours. Looks more appropriate for
a poster rather than a T-shirt.

Also, we are all eager to have a cheatshirt
http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt so perhaps you can consider
that as well?

Thanks for the work man!



-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 11:04:40 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:34:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007081005.22100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrR3l7KY5uJWBYHPUwya-iDfSgFkYr_C2EYrXQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinaeHGDjU4O-gZi7FGyc3w5WNhg-avAwUESat_U@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007080958.55463.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<201007081005.22100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilrFQpDaia9ouMTnCc4wsVbsvFWS2UKcT9mbX_-@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
> > > > medium (like a T-shirt).
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
> > > national emblem for any non-government work.
> > >
> >
> > I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national symbol)
> >  at  once - it is illegal
> >
>
> not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is
> the
> white space that we all know and love?
>

Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...

The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
looks stand-offish.

Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
so that it will print well on a T-shirt.

I am looking forward to that.



> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 13:47:06 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:17:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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ok, working on a new one ! Cheat Sheet Style ;-) !

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> > On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> > > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
>> > > > medium (like a T-shirt).
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
>> > > national emblem for any non-government work.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national symbol)
>> >  at  once - it is illegal
>> >
>>
>> not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is
>> the
>> white space that we all know and love?
>>
>
> Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
>
> The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
> Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
> looks stand-offish.
>
> Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
> in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
> so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
>
> I am looking forward to that.
>
>
>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Senior Associate
>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 13:54:52 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:24:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:17 PM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> ok, working on a new one ! Cheat Sheet Style ;-) !


You can use this link for a Python cheat-sheet.

http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/PQRC-2.4-A4-latest.pdf

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>> > On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>> > > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
>>> > > > medium (like a T-shirt).
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
>>> > > national emblem for any non-government work.
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national
>>> symbol)
>>> >  at  once - it is illegal
>>> >
>>>
>>> not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is
>>> the
>>> white space that we all know and love?
>>>
>>
>> Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
>>
>> The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
>> Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
>> looks stand-offish.
>>
>> Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
>> in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
>> so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
>>
>> I am looking forward to that.
>>
>>
>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>> Senior Associate
>>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> regards
> -------
> Kunal Ghosh
> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> Sir MVIT
> Bangalore,India
>
> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 14:01:32 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 17:31:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Was wondering , does a cheat sheet style t-shirt mean, a one with an actual
cheat sheet
or one with python code also counts ?

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:17 PM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ok, working on a new one ! Cheat Sheet Style ;-) !
>
>
> You can use this link for a Python cheat-sheet.
>
> http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/PQRC-2.4-A4-latest.pdf
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
>> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:58:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>>> > On Thursday 08 July 2010 09:46:43 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>>> > > > It does look nice but I'm not sure if it'll look good on a printed
>>>> > > > medium (like a T-shirt).
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I don't think we can use that logo. It is not legal is use the
>>>> > > national emblem for any non-government work.
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > I just looked at it - please remove it (or at least the national
>>>> symbol)
>>>> >  at  once - it is illegal
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> not only illegal according to law, but not good python syntax - where is
>>>> the
>>>> white space that we all know and love?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
>>>
>>> The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
>>> Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
>>> looks stand-offish.
>>>
>>> Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
>>> in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
>>> so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
>>>
>>> I am looking forward to that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>>> Senior Associate
>>>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Anand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards
>> -------
>> Kunal Ghosh
>> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
>> Sir MVIT
>> Bangalore,India
>>
>> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
>> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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regards
-------
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Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 15:46:49 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:16:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:

> Was wondering , does a cheat sheet style t-shirt mean, a one with an
> actual cheat sheet or one with python code also counts ?

[...]

It's a mini cheat sheet printed upside down on a T-shirt so that you can
read it while sitting down. 

The xkcd link I mentioned earlier has as example. It's not just code
formatted in a pretty way.


-- 

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 17:46:32 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:16:32 +0530
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ok

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Was wondering , does a cheat sheet style t-shirt mean, a one with an
> > actual cheat sheet or one with python code also counts ?
>
> [...]
>
> It's a mini cheat sheet printed upside down on a T-shirt so that you can
> read it while sitting down.
>
> The xkcd link I mentioned earlier has as example. It's not just code
> formatted in a pretty way.
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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-------
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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 21:32:46 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 01:02:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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>
> Here is the link fot the T shirt design i made..


FRONT:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=T+front.jpg

BACK:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=shirt+back.jpg

Since i saw a few ppl mentioning the cheatsheet shirt... thought i'l make
1..
Tried to make it similar to the one in xkcd link

PS i have placed a small white logo on the left hand sleeve...( its shown
onli in the BACK image... sorry)

Let me knw abt what u ppl think..

And the typography logo with the Ashoka pillar was made by me, Will make
another one ASAP..!!
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 22:14:37 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 01:44:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> writes:

>>
>> Here is the link fot the T shirt design i made..
>
>
> FRONT:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=T+front.jpg
>
> BACK:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=shirt+back.jpg
>
> Since i saw a few ppl mentioning the cheatsheet shirt... thought i'l make
> 1..
> Tried to make it similar to the one in xkcd link
>
> PS i have placed a small white logo on the left hand sleeve...( its shown
> onli in the BACK image... sorry)

[...]

Can you upload smaller versions of the images and link them from he
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork page? Otherwise, we'd
lose them. Ditto to the other folks who've submitted designs.

Thanks.

-- 

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 23:45:34 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 03:15:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is the link fot the T shirt design i made..
>
>
> FRONT:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=T+front.jpg
>
>


Shouldn't,
dict(zip(keyslist, valslist))v should be dict(zip(keyslist, valslist)). I
see an extra v, may be a typo.
Just nitpicking, the design is kool.


> BACK:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=shirt+back.jpg
>
> Since i saw a few ppl mentioning the cheatsheet shirt... thought i'l make
> 1..
> Tried to make it similar to the one in xkcd link
>
> PS i have placed a small white logo on the left hand sleeve...( its shown
> onli in the BACK image... sorry)
>
> Let me knw abt what u ppl think..
>
> And the typography logo with the Ashoka pillar was made by me, Will make
> another one ASAP..!!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul  9 01:16:15 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 04:46:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Thursday 08 July 2010 14:34:40 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > white space that we all know and love?
> 
> Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
> 
> The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
> Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
> looks stand-offish.
> 
> Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
> in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
> so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
> 
> I am looking forward to that.
> 

I notice that the govt emblem is still there - people can be prosecuted for 
doing this
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 03:44:29 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:14:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Apart from the govt emblem. I love the design !

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:

> On Thursday 08 July 2010 14:34:40 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > > white space that we all know and love?
> >
> > Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
> >
> > The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
> > Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
> > looks stand-offish.
> >
> > Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
> > in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
> > so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
> >
> > I am looking forward to that.
> >
>
> I notice that the govt emblem is still there - people can be prosecuted for
> doing this
> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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regards
-------
Kunal Ghosh
Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 05:37:25 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 09:07:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Please remove all the designs with the national emblem. It's illegal
and we put the wiki at risk doing it.

On 7/9/10, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Apart from the govt emblem. I love the design !
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 08 July 2010 14:34:40 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>> > > white space that we all know and love?
>> >
>> > Come on, let us not discourage the artist so much...
>> >
>> > The work looks pretty neat apart from the national emblem.
>> > Apart from the legal perspective, it doesn't fit the theme and
>> > looks stand-offish.
>> >
>> > Can you do the same thing by putting a few Python cheats
>> > in the same design ? Put only a few cheats, in a larger font
>> > so that it will print well on a T-shirt.
>> >
>> > I am looking forward to that.
>> >
>>
>> I notice that the govt emblem is still there - people can be prosecuted
>> for
>> doing this
>> --
>> Regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Senior Associate
>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> regards
> -------
> Kunal Ghosh
> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> Sir MVIT
> Bangalore,India
>
> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
>


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 07:56:20 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:26:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Here's one that we missed entirely. 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=pycon.jpg

Please link your images to the main Artwork page.

I've deleted the one with the national symbol.

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul  9 08:07:38 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:37:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Friday 09 July 2010 11:26:20 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Here's one that we missed entirely. 
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&amp;do
> =view&amp;target=pycon.jpg
> 

I like it - simple, clear and will look good at all sizes and resolutions
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 08:40:57 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:10:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <201007091137.39118.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:37:38 +0530")
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Friday 09 July 2010 11:26:20 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> Here's one that we missed entirely. 
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&amp;do
>> =view&amp;target=pycon.jpg
>> 
>
> I like it - simple, clear and will look good at all sizes and resolutions

Yes but the texturing on the Python logo will be hard to reproduce on
the T-shirt and some of the media. 

Also, there's nothing "Indian" about it.

But you're right. It does look very clean and elegant.

-- 

From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 11:13:43 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 14:43:43 +0530
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Removed The old Shirts..

Put smaller versions:

FRONT:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=front.jpg
BACK:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Back.jpg
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From flowerslab at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 11:22:37 2010
From: flowerslab at gmail.com (Sathishkumar Duraisamy)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 14:52:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Hi
I think, we people used to read whatever in the shirt unconsciously. When
the letters upside down (front side) , will be something irritating. If it
so please fix it.

Regards
Sathishkumar

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Removed The old Shirts..
>
> Put smaller versions:
>
> FRONT:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=front.jpg
> BACK:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Back.jpg
>
>
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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 11:35:57 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:05:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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@Shashwat Anand

Jus saw the mistake... got it corrected now...
thanks..
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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 11:44:53 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:14:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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@Sathishkumar Duraisamy

Actually the basic idea behind a cheat shirt is that u can read it while ur
wearing it...

>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:07:23 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:37:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Sathishkumar Duraisamy <flowerslab at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi
> I think, we people used to read whatever in the shirt unconsciously. When
> the letters upside down (front side) , will be something irritating. If it
> so please fix it.

[...]

It's a cheat shirt. It's *supposed* to be upside down so that you can
read it while you're sitting down. Who'd want to read a cheat sheet off
someone elses chest anyway? :)

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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:15:57 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:45:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sathishkumar Duraisamy <flowerslab at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi
> > I think, we people used to read whatever in the shirt unconsciously. When
> > the letters upside down (front side) , will be something irritating. If
> it
> > so please fix it.
>
> [...]
>
> It's a cheat shirt. It's *supposed* to be upside down so that you can
> read it while you're sitting down. Who'd want to read a cheat sheet off
> someone elses chest anyway? :)
>

+1.

>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:28:59 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:58:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> writes:

> Removed The old Shirts..
>
> Put smaller versions:
>
> FRONT:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=front.jpg
> BACK:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Back.jpg

[...]

Cool. Please link these from the Artwork page
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork


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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:37:19 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:07:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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done

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Removed The old Shirts..
> >
> > Put smaller versions:
> >
> > FRONT:
> >
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=front.jpg
> > BACK:
> >
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Back.jpg
>
> [...]
>
> Cool. Please link these from the Artwork page
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork
>
>
> --
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From flowerslab at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:43:26 2010
From: flowerslab at gmail.com (Sathishkumar Duraisamy)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:13:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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hmmm ok :-)

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:45 PM, anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sathishkumar Duraisamy <flowerslab at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Hi
>> > I think, we people used to read whatever in the shirt unconsciously.
>> When
>> > the letters upside down (front side) , will be something irritating. If
>> it
>> > so please fix it.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> It's a cheat shirt. It's *supposed* to be upside down so that you can
>> read it while you're sitting down. Who'd want to read a cheat sheet off
>> someone elses chest anyway? :)
>>
>
> +1.
>
>>
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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 13:58:50 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:28:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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>
> Heres another typography logo... used the same cheats which i made the
> tshirt...
>

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=type+2.jpg


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From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 14:20:50 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:50:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Linkedin Group
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMNXlW2jw4O6nzFRWFUsUcSi34Oy-iGpE41O3y@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

               I have created a new group for Pycon India
on linkedin, as a part of publicity efforts.

http://www.linkedin.com/e/-y1ru31-gbezi3dh-5s/vgh/3203762/eml-grp-sub/

Please join the group (it is open) and add the group to your
public profile for visibility.

And we need a better logo that that. I managed to scape together
one from the image on the Pycon India page and some really
bad GIMP work :) - Please volunteer!

Thanks,

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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 18:34:11 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:04:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinP_msaSU2kOSN-jsR2V2M3VgXEs7BPQCFPj0KT@mail.gmail.com>
	(Karthik B.'s message of "Fri, 9 Jul 2010 16:07:19 +0530")
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A friend of mine who I asked to give a shot has created this 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=PyConNibbles.png

I sort of like it. It's simple and succinct. Easy/cheap to print on a
T-shirt as well. The snakes are based on the game Snake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_%28video_game%29 which you usually
find on old cell phones.

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sun Jul 11 07:11:58 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:41:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5jb8fek.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Saturday 10 July 2010 22:04:11 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> A friend of mine who I asked to give a shot has created this 
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&amp;do
> =get&amp;target=PyConNibbles.png
> 
> I sort of like it. It's simple and succinct. Easy/cheap to print on a
> T-shirt as well. The snakes are based on the game Snake
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_%28video_game%29 which you usually
> find on old cell phones.
> 

+0
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 08:57:01 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:27:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> A friend of mine who I asked to give a shot has created this
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=PyConNibbles.png
>
> I sort of like it. It's simple and succinct. Easy/cheap to print on a
> T-shirt as well. The snakes are based on the game Snake
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_%28video_game%29 which you usually
> find on old cell phones.
>

 +1 on printing aspect.
 -2 on creativity and style.

-1 overall.




>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 10:57:41 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:27:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5jb8fek.fsf@gmail.com> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of "Sat, 10
	Jul 2010 22:04:11 +0530")
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This is my own
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=stamp-small.png


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From ideamonk at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 14:10:29 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:40:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Heres another typography logo... used the same cheats which i made the
>> tshirt...
>>
>
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=type+2.jpg
>


^^ good typography, wood look neat on white tshirts
+1
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From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 14:15:51 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:45:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Abhishek Mishra <ideamonk at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heres another typography logo... used the same cheats which i made the
>>> tshirt...
>>>
>>
>>
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=type+2.jpg
>>
>
>
> ^^ good typography, wood look neat on white tshirts
> +1
>

Abhishek, I thought that a black T with cheat-sheet was decided.
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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 15:28:54 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:58:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Shashwat Anand <anand.shashwat at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Abhishek Mishra <ideamonk at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Heres another typography logo... used the same cheats which i made the
>>>> tshirt...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=type+2.jpg
>>>
>>
>>
>> ^^ good typography, wood look neat on white tshirts
>> +1
>>
>
> Abhishek, I thought that a black T with cheat-sheet was decided.
>
>
>
i have uploaded one of the art work done by one of my friend
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=inpycon-2010-logo

but by mistake i did Upload that file using Upload rather than Attach

hope moderator may notice this



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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 16:55:09 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:25:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5jao0oq.fsf@gmail.com> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of "Sun, 11
	Jul 2010 14:27:41 +0530")
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Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> writes:

> This is my own
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=stamp-small.png

And another one 
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=flag-small.png


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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 17:03:05 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:33:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> i have uploaded one of the art work done by one of my friend
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=inpycon-2010-logo
>
> but by mistake i did Upload that file using Upload rather than Attach
>
> hope moderator may notice this

[...]

The file you uploaded corrupted the page and changed the mime-type to
application/octet-stream (probably due to the lack of the .png
extension). I've fixed the page but the image is too large to put on the
page. Can you attach a lower size version and link it from the main
page? It is a good looking logo though.

Thanks.


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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 20:10:07 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:40:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
> > i have uploaded one of the art work done by one of my friend
> >
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=inpycon-2010-logo
> >
> > but by mistake i did Upload that file using Upload rather than Attach
> >
> > hope moderator may notice this
>
> [...]
>
> The file you uploaded corrupted the page and changed the mime-type to
> application/octet-stream (probably due to the lack of the .png
> extension). I've fixed the page but the image is too large to put on the
> page. Can you attach a lower size version and link it from the main
> page? It is a good looking logo though.
>
> i tried uploading with a lower size (61kb) with proper extension , still
there might be some issues, the page again has got corrupted,

there might be some issue, have a look at it


> Thanks.
>
>
> --
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> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 20:57:28 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:27:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

>> i tried uploading with a lower size (61kb) with proper extension , still
> there might be some issues, the page again has got corrupted,
>
> there might be some issue, have a look at it

[...]

I think there's something wrong with what you're doing. A couple of
others have uploaded images without any issues. I've reverted
the page again. Can you give a shot with a sandbox page on the wiki so
that you can test what you're doing? If there's still a problem, we'll
need to contact the python.org folks.

Thanks.

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Jul 12 10:42:33 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:12:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
Message-ID: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

hi,

the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango for 
one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else. Pythonistas 
who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with the 
conference. The details are here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore

In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the following 
requests:
1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the 
conference
2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html is 
here:

<iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" 
marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" 
src="http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik" 
style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a 
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT">View 
Larger Map</a></small>

3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one

4. and, of course, tweet about it.

as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn, 
please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility of 
having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 11:02:23 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:32:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Logo decision
Message-ID: <8739vp9iow.fsf@gmail.com>


So, is there a logo/T-shirt that anyone feels strongly about? 
I'm personally lukewarm about all the submissions. Should we consider
paying a professional to do this? I have one quote from a chap. I can
probably fish for others. 

-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Mon Jul 12 12:48:19 2010
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:33:19 +0545
Subject: [Inpycon] Logo decision
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 14:47, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, is there a logo/T-shirt that anyone feels strongly about?
> I'm personally lukewarm about all the submissions. Should we consider
> paying a professional to do this? I have one quote from a chap. I can
> probably fish for others.

Wasnt the cheat sheet on the front of the Tee a strong contender? I
saw a few +1's on the list for the black (and green?) Tee on the wiki
page.

As for going commercial,  i'd rather encourage the community efforts
thusfar -- am ok with any logo that would scale well on a black Tee,
given that the logo on the back of the Tee will change each year. If a
logo from the community pool is chosen it would be nice to if we could
honor the artist with a mention on the pycon-india front page (and
linking their website?).

-- 
peace,
vid || http://svaksha.com

From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 13:38:18 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:08:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> i tried uploading with a lower size (61kb) with proper extension , still
> > there might be some issues, the page again has got corrupted,
> >
> > there might be some issue, have a look at it
>

 Why don't you email the image to one of us ? We will do the upload.


>
> [...]
>
> I think there's something wrong with what you're doing. A couple of
> others have uploaded images without any issues. I've reverted
> the page again. Can you give a shot with a sandbox page on the wiki so
> that you can test what you're doing? If there's still a problem, we'll
> need to contact the python.org folks.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >> i tried uploading with a lower size (61kb) with proper extension ,
>> still
>> > there might be some issues, the page again has got corrupted,
>> >
>> > there might be some issue, have a look at it
>>
>
>  Why don't you email the image to one of us ? We will do the upload.
> python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon>
>
> infact i was able to upload at

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=inpycon-2010-logo.png
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From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:31:43 +0530
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On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:24 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> >> i tried uploading with a lower size (61kb) with proper extension ,
>>> still
>>> > there might be some issues, the page again has got corrupted,
>>> >
>>> > there might be some issue, have a look at it
>>>
>>
>>  Why don't you email the image to one of us ? We will do the upload.
>> python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon>
>>
>> infact i was able to upload at
>
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=inpycon-2010-logo.png
>
> and one which is lesser in size is here
>


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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 16:22:03 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:52:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Logo decision
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??????  <vid at svaksha.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 14:47, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> Wasnt the cheat sheet on the front of the Tee a strong contender? I
> saw a few +1's on the list for the black (and green?) Tee on the wiki
> page.

There's only one design on the wiki. I personally think it's "okay" but
not something I'd love to own. 

> As for going commercial, i'd rather encourage the community efforts
> thusfar

The response is not as warm as last year and the quality of logos is
lower as well. In my opinion anyway. 

>  -- am ok with any logo that would scale well on a black Tee, given
> that the logo on the back of the Tee will change each year. If a logo
> from the community pool is chosen it would be nice to if we could
> honor the artist with a mention on the pycon-india front page (and
> linking their website?).

That's what they get. 




-- 

From ideamonk at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 18:32:35 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:02:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] logo
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On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Shashwat Anand <anand.shashwat at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> <snip>
>


> Abhishek, I thought that a black T with cheat-sheet was decided.
>
>

Ah I though it was asm from far away. Black T would be awesome anyday \m/
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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 19:19:34 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:49:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>

What is the registering procedure for the non-mappers to join ?

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango
> for
> one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else.
> Pythonistas
> who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with the
> conference. The details are here:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore
>
> In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the
> following
> requests:
> 1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the
> conference
> 2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html is
> here:
>
> <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
> marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"
> src="
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik
> "
> style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a
> href="
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT
> ">View
> Larger Map</a></small>
>
> 3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one
>
> 4. and, of course, tweet about it.
>
> as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
> please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility of
> having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From ideamonk at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 23:08:19 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:38:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <87tyochhgv.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinI3BuPgnguYsbC8yb8nTjLp8DO6js7hyIefsOs@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilalKL0UL0JB9Poa20Ier6GFK0-I7FE5ihYkh-I@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tyochhgv.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbbGOQXYHPHP21_BzTKL9RCxFJkOp_0VIZkLPr@mail.gmail.com>

Also, people how do you feel about this one -

http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.png
http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.pdf
http://www1.american.edu/cas/econ/faculty/isaac/choose_python.pdf

Based on the movie trainspotting and adminspotting banners.


On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Shashwat Anand <anand.shashwat at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > +1 for cheat sheet
> > +1 for black tees
>
> [...]
>
> Well, if it's going to be a cheatshirt, it simply *has* to be black with
> a bright green
> font. http://db.tidbits.com/resources/2008-11/green-on-black.png
>
> Okay. So we have an idea. Suggestions for the design?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From ideamonk at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 23:10:26 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:40:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilbbGOQXYHPHP21_BzTKL9RCxFJkOp_0VIZkLPr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinI3BuPgnguYsbC8yb8nTjLp8DO6js7hyIefsOs@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilalKL0UL0JB9Poa20Ier6GFK0-I7FE5ihYkh-I@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tyochhgv.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilbbGOQXYHPHP21_BzTKL9RCxFJkOp_0VIZkLPr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4O_CUnDrCMOogp0AI6o_71ZHgU645qjTXaBtu@mail.gmail.com>

source - http://apipes.blogspot.com/2005/01/choose-python.html

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Abhishek Mishra <ideamonk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, people how do you feel about this one -
>
> http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.png
> http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.pdf
> http://www1.american.edu/cas/econ/faculty/isaac/choose_python.pdf
>
> Based on the movie trainspotting and adminspotting banners.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Shashwat Anand <anand.shashwat at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > +1 for cheat sheet
>> > +1 for black tees
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Well, if it's going to be a cheatshirt, it simply *has* to be black with
>> a bright green
>> font. http://db.tidbits.com/resources/2008-11/green-on-black.png
>>
>> Okay. So we have an idea. Suggestions for the design?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 06:03:14 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:33:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheatshirt.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4O_CUnDrCMOogp0AI6o_71ZHgU645qjTXaBtu@mail.gmail.com>
	(Abhishek Mishra's message of "Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:40:26 +0530")
References: <878w5oluon.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinI3BuPgnguYsbC8yb8nTjLp8DO6js7hyIefsOs@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilalKL0UL0JB9Poa20Ier6GFK0-I7FE5ihYkh-I@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tyochhgv.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilbbGOQXYHPHP21_BzTKL9RCxFJkOp_0VIZkLPr@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4O_CUnDrCMOogp0AI6o_71ZHgU645qjTXaBtu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87mxtwni4d.fsf@gmail.com>

Abhishek Mishra <ideamonk at gmail.com> writes:

> source - http://apipes.blogspot.com/2005/01/choose-python.html
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Abhishek Mishra <ideamonk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, people how do you feel about this one -
>>
>> http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.png
>> http://www.lesher.ws/choose_python.pdf
>> http://www1.american.edu/cas/econ/faculty/isaac/choose_python.pdf
>>
>> Based on the movie trainspotting and adminspotting banners.

[...]

Nice but a little *too* text heavy. 

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Jul 13 09:23:29 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:53:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007131253.30007.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday 12 July 2010 22:49:34 anil kumar wrote:
> What is the registering procedure for the non-mappers to join ?
> 

put your name on the wiki page - mention that you are a newbie to OSM and 
would like to learn and contribute
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 19:54:13 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:24:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
Message-ID: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        Anand C. came up with a logo based on tessellations by the
artist Escher. 
        
        We did a mockup and have uploaded a version here
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher.png

        The snake logo is flipped and turned in places so that every 4
of them "meet" in the middle (ie. a conference). The yellows and blues
meet alternatively similar to the white and blue birds here
http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/symmetry-bmp/E18.jpg

        If you scale it down, it looks like a braid pattern. 

        This is the logo. The T-shirt idea is to have this in between
the shoulder blades on the back of the T and to keep the front bare
except for the cheat shirt material printed at the bottom.

        Comments welcome. 

Thanks        

P.S. I've also inserted the logo which Renuka Prasad uploaded
earlier. It's over here
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=inpycon-2010-logo-scaled.png




-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 07:48:31 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:18:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
Message-ID: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        This day is going to start off with some good news. 
        
        We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
and will put up the logo today. 

        The sponsor is ZeOmega. They were the first sponsors last year
as well and we look forward to relationship that will last in the coming
years as well.

        So... We're getting there. Keep spreading the word and let's
make this conference a real mark in the global Python landscape. 

Thanks for all the work everyone!

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 08:29:31 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:59:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/15 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hello everyone,
> ? ? ? ?This day is going to start off with some good news.
>
> ? ? ? ?We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
> and will put up the logo today.
>
> ? ? ? ?The sponsor is ZeOmega. They were the first sponsors last year
> as well and we look forward to relationship that will last in the coming
> years as well.
>
[...]

Platinum sponsor or gold sponsor?

Anand

From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 15 08:37:36 2010
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:07:36 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <607810.19969.qm@web95310.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

Platinum


with regardsvijay


--- On Thu, 15/7/10, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
To: "Mailing list for the PyCon India conference" <inpycon at python.org>
Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 11:59 AM

2010/7/15 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hello everyone,
> ? ? ? ?This day is going to start off with some good news.
>
> ? ? ? ?We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
> and will put up the logo today.
>
> ? ? ? ?The sponsor is ZeOmega. They were the first sponsors last year
> as well and we look forward to relationship that will last in the coming
> years as well.
>
[...]

Platinum sponsor or gold sponsor?

Anand
_______________________________________________
Inpycon mailing list
Inpycon at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon


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From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 08:40:29 2010
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:10:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik1l9jtQRsPeZD4cIwkYw0vKtwG5NmaKgywUhwa@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> ? ? ? ?This day is going to start off with some good news.
>
> ? ? ? ?We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
> and will put up the logo today.
>
> ? ? ? ?The sponsor is ZeOmega. They were the first sponsors last year
> as well and we look forward to relationship that will last in the coming
> years as well.

We are happy to sponsor PyCON India. We also sponsored US PyCON
for last 7 years (from 2003 onwards).

Regards,
Baiju M

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 08:43:04 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:13:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:59:31 +0530")
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>

Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

> 2010/7/15 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> ? ? ? ?This day is going to start off with some good news.
>>
>> ? ? ? ?We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
>> and will put up the logo today.
>>
>> ? ? ? ?The sponsor is ZeOmega. They were the first sponsors last year
>> as well and we look forward to relationship that will last in the coming
>> years as well.
>>
> [...]
>
> Platinum sponsor or gold sponsor?

[...]

Platinum.

My apologies. I forgot to mention that. I guess I'm getting too old for
this. 

Vijay,
        Can you send the logo to Anand to put on the site?

Thanks.



-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 08:48:31 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:18:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>

> Vijay,
> ? ? ? ?Can you send the logo to Anand to put on the site?

Found it here.

http://www.zeomega.com/Images/logo-zeomega.gif

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:00:52 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:30:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:18:31 +0530")
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com>
	<87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <871vb59ql7.fsf@gmail.com>

Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

>> Vijay,
>> ? ? ? ?Can you send the logo to Anand to put on the site?
>
> Found it here.
>
> http://www.zeomega.com/Images/logo-zeomega.gif

[...]

This should do for now but we'll probably need a higer res. one when we
step out to print the banners and stuff.


-- 

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:03:31 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:33:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4AcHuT8D1llpw3rzjlhpzwXhZbypeEd2iqwyC@mail.gmail.com>

Really great news :)
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From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:25:37 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:55:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiknXtn-P9eL6XshHwTpPTLvsymQDhSclHcbrZwt@mail.gmail.com> 
	<87aapt9rev.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinGy1VNpI9yuZblN8M0QUWsfxGIUHf1yM3pgzJh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik76Y999a46iyZz9lc5lNRZ-Z00ZK0hJQukGYNR@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/15 Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>:
>> Vijay,
>> ? ? ? ?Can you send the logo to Anand to put on the site?
>
> Found it here.
>
> http://www.zeomega.com/Images/logo-zeomega.gif

And added to the website.

http://in.pycon.org/2010/

Anand

From caulagi at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:32:28 2010
From: caulagi at gmail.com (Pradip Caulagi)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:02:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87bpa9wb0w.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinarUIydJv-o3M5cNND8gG8YMadAyEisW8pkcLW@mail.gmail.com>

>
> ? ? ? ?We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
> and will put up the logo today.
>
Great news.  Well done, organizing team!  Thanks ZeOmega!

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:39:13 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:09:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of "Wed, 14
	Jul 2010 23:24:13 +0530")
References: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878w5d8a8u.fsf@gmail.com>


Any comments?

Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> writes:

> Hello everyone,
>         Anand C. came up with a logo based on tessellations by the
> artist Escher. 
>         
>         We did a mockup and have uploaded a version here
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher.png
>
>         The snake logo is flipped and turned in places so that every 4
> of them "meet" in the middle (ie. a conference). The yellows and blues
> meet alternatively similar to the white and blue birds here
> http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/symmetry-bmp/E18.jpg
>
>         If you scale it down, it looks like a braid pattern. 
>
>         This is the logo. The T-shirt idea is to have this in between
> the shoulder blades on the back of the T and to keep the front bare
> except for the cheat shirt material printed at the bottom.
>
>         Comments welcome. 
>
> Thanks        
>
> P.S. I've also inserted the logo which Renuka Prasad uploaded
> earlier. It's over here
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=inpycon-2010-logo-scaled.png

-- 

From namanvit at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:43:51 2010
From: namanvit at gmail.com (naman jain)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:13:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6sDnFZg8JOonnecljhcRct3A5foMDx2NtauMt@mail.gmail.com>

>        We did a mockup and have uploaded a version here
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher.png
>

Looks really pro !
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From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 09:55:33 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:25:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87r5j6gda2.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilZGBjMua5TNZSLng0ukkSrvNoSCd9b7Gl0iitH@mail.gmail.com>

2010/7/14 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Hello everyone,
> ? ? ? ?Anand C. came up with a logo based on tessellations by the
> artist Escher.
>
> ? ? ? ?We did a mockup and have uploaded a version here
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher.png
>
> ? ? ? ?The snake logo is flipped and turned in places so that every 4
> of them "meet" in the middle (ie. a conference). The yellows and blues
> meet alternatively similar to the white and blue birds here
> http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/symmetry-bmp/E18.jpg
>
> ? ? ? ?If you scale it down, it looks like a braid pattern.
>
> ? ? ? ?This is the logo. The T-shirt idea is to have this in between
> the shoulder blades on the back of the T and to keep the front bare
> except for the cheat shirt material printed at the bottom.
>
> ? ? ? ?Comments welcome.

That one was for the t-shirt and here is the one that we made for the logo.

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher-logo.png

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 11:38:03 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:08:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Site analytics update
Message-ID: <87pqyp6q6c.fsf@gmail.com>


The traffic from referring sites (42%) has almost overtaken the direct
traffic (44%).

These are the top referrers

python.org   	17.12%
google  	13.36%
twitter.com 	6.69%
facebook.com 	5.49% 

Thanks.

-- 

From santhosh.divakar at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 12:17:27 2010
From: santhosh.divakar at gmail.com (Santhosh Divakar)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:47:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinarUIydJv-o3M5cNND8gG8YMadAyEisW8pkcLW@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> >        We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
> > and will put up the logo today.
> >
>

Awesome news!. So that should be kicking off the new accounting sheet too
:-).
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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 12:20:09 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:50:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Site analytics update
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Awesome.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> The traffic from referring sites (42%) has almost overtaken the direct
> traffic (44%).
>
> These are the top referrers
>
> python.org      17.12%
> google          13.36%
> twitter.com     6.69%
> facebook.com    5.49%
>
> Thanks.
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 12:22:09 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:52:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] First sponsor!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMDtYksuU9OT33x68N1x39-uxGk9YrfXQCsT6C@mail.gmail.com>
	(Santhosh Divakar's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:47:27 +0530")
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Santhosh Divakar <santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> writes:

>>
>> >        We have our first confirmed sponsor. We've received the cheque
>> > and will put up the logo today.
>> >
>>
>
> Awesome news!. So that should be kicking off the new accounting sheet too
> :-).

[...]

Yes. Vijay should have sent you the details. If not, can you ping him?

Thanks.
-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 07:31:46 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:01:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilZGBjMua5TNZSLng0ukkSrvNoSCd9b7Gl0iitH@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Chitipothu's message of "Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:25:33 +0530")
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Okay. In the absence of any opposition/new logos, we'll finalise on the
escher style logo and get to work on the T-shirt. 

My initial plan was to have the big tesellation on the back and just the
cheats on the front (a strip at the bottom). Anand suggests putting the
4 pythons logo on the chest as well. Any comments?

-- 

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 07:38:00 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:08:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <87vd8dqrst.fsf@gmail.com>
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IMHO, the front must look clean, the Cheat Sheet should be sufficient.
Also apart from the tesselated logo at the back , near the neck, is there
any Caption ? etc

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Okay. In the absence of any opposition/new logos, we'll finalise on the
> escher style logo and get to work on the T-shirt.
>
> My initial plan was to have the big tesellation on the back and just the
> cheats on the front (a strip at the bottom). Anand suggests putting the
> 4 pythons logo on the chest as well. Any comments?
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From anandology at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 07:38:56 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:08:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <87vd8dqrst.fsf@gmail.com>
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2010/7/18 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
>
> Okay. In the absence of any opposition/new logos, we'll finalise on the
> escher style logo and get to work on the T-shirt.
>
> My initial plan was to have the big tesellation on the back and just the
> cheats on the front (a strip at the bottom). Anand suggests putting the
> 4 pythons logo on the chest as well. Any comments?

My new suggestion is use big tessellation on the front, a punch line
on the back and no cheats.

Anand

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 07:43:28 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:13:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYneoTMSkEW57zwBOs0_fwQz4No856gXg0CxUt@mail.gmail.com>
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IMO a cheat sheet would be nice !

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2010/7/18 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > Okay. In the absence of any opposition/new logos, we'll finalise on the
> > escher style logo and get to work on the T-shirt.
> >
> > My initial plan was to have the big tesellation on the back and just the
> > cheats on the front (a strip at the bottom). Anand suggests putting the
> > 4 pythons logo on the chest as well. Any comments?
>
> My new suggestion is use big tessellation on the front, a punch line
> on the back and no cheats.
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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>



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From anandology at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 07:50:16 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:20:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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2010/7/18 kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com>:
> IMO a cheat sheet would be nice !

 I agree, but I don't think putting the tessellation on the back will look good.

One option is to put the small logo on the chest, put the cheats at
the bottom and nothing in the back. I liked my first idea better than
this.

Anand

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 08:01:59 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:31:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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the back would look uneven, the large tessellation at the back would IMO
balance the cheat sheet on the front.
and no logo on the chest :) i did not like the logo being on the chest ,
from last time ( again its my opinion :) ).

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2010/7/18 kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com>:
> > IMO a cheat sheet would be nice !
>
>  I agree, but I don't think putting the tessellation on the back will look
> good.
>
> One option is to put the small logo on the chest, put the cheats at
> the bottom and nothing in the back. I liked my first idea better than
> this.
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 08:42:17 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:12:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinRVzpS4R95rEh_0CGOXMsb5QTX4FNkm1ziUgsb@mail.gmail.com>
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kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:

> the back would look uneven, the large tessellation at the back would IMO
> balance the cheat sheet on the front.
> and no logo on the chest :) i did not like the logo being on the chest ,
> from last time ( again its my opinion :) ).

[...]

A cheat shirt is a good marketing thing. No other PyCons have had it to
the best of my knowledge. I think we should do that. 

Now putting the logo *and* the cheat sheet on the front will make it
cluttered. Given that we *have* to have the cheat sheet, we'll give the
logo a miss.

That leaves the back. The 4 python logo is nice but it's small and
doesn't convey the whole tesellation idea. That's why I suggest we put
the big one in between the sholders on the back with just "PyCon India
2010" below it. 

Opinions?

-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 09:35:48 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:05:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Site analytics update
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Great. We got some new talks also, I saw.
Maybe it is time to step up on the talk marketing
efforts. I will see what I can do next week.

--Anand

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM, anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Awesome.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The traffic from referring sites (42%) has almost overtaken the direct
>> traffic (44%).
>>
>> These are the top referrers
>>
>> python.org      17.12%
>> google          13.36%
>> twitter.com     6.69%
>> facebook.com    5.49%
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 11:40:38 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:10:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Site analytics update
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> Great. We got some new talks also, I saw.
> Maybe it is time to step up on the talk marketing
> efforts. I will see what I can do next week.

[...]

For the newbie track anyway. I think we have some nice talks lined up
for the regular tracks. 

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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 13:58:25 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:28:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > the back would look uneven, the large tessellation at the back would IMO
> > balance the cheat sheet on the front.
> > and no logo on the chest :) i did not like the logo being on the chest ,
> > from last time ( again its my opinion :) ).
>
> [...]
>
> A cheat shirt is a good marketing thing. No other PyCons have had it to
> the best of my knowledge. I think we should do that.
>
> Now putting the logo *and* the cheat sheet on the front will make it
> cluttered. Given that we *have* to have the cheat sheet, we'll give the
> logo a miss.
>
> That leaves the back. The 4 python logo is nice but it's small and
> doesn't convey the whole tesellation idea. That's why I suggest we put
> the big one in between the sholders on the back with just "PyCon India
> 2010" below it.
>
> Opinions?
>
>
one simple logo (big enough )with pycondina 2010 would be decent and
appealing, wherever it is put

cheat shirt is also a good idea


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From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 14:20:00 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:50:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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+1 count=1

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:28 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > the back would look uneven, the large tessellation at the back would IMO
>> > balance the cheat sheet on the front.
>> > and no logo on the chest :) i did not like the logo being on the chest ,
>> > from last time ( again its my opinion :) ).
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> A cheat shirt is a good marketing thing. No other PyCons have had it to
>> the best of my knowledge. I think we should do that.
>>
>> Now putting the logo *and* the cheat sheet on the front will make it
>> cluttered. Given that we *have* to have the cheat sheet, we'll give the
>> logo a miss.
>>
>> That leaves the back. The 4 python logo is nice but it's small and
>> doesn't convey the whole tesellation idea. That's why I suggest we put
>> the big one in between the sholders on the back with just "PyCon India
>> 2010" below it.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>>
> one simple logo (big enough )with pycondina 2010 would be decent and
> appealing, wherever it is put
>
> cheat shirt is also a good idea
>
>
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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 14:02:03 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:32:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] inpycon 2010 T shirt quality
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Hi all

wanted to suggest you people to do the T shirt of good quality cloth

 ( do not make like the last year one, it was not of good quality )
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 16:27:12 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:57:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] inpycon 2010 T shirt quality
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikl7gpIwn0T-ASL3GXvPEBMDgbrQY-P0-3x9kKc@mail.gmail.com>
	(renuka prasad's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:32:03 +0530")
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renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi all
>
> wanted to suggest you people to do the T shirt of good quality cloth
>
>  ( do not make like the last year one, it was not of good quality )

[...]

The quality of the T-shirt is a function of our available funds. It's
not a pre determined constant. 

However, you're right about last years quality. I think we can do better
this time.

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 18:51:04 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:21:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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2010/7/18 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
>
> Okay. In the absence of any opposition/new logos, we'll finalise on the
> escher style logo and get to work on the T-shirt.
>
> My initial plan was to have the big tesellation on the back and just the
> cheats on the front (a strip at the bottom). Anand suggests putting the
> 4 pythons logo on the chest as well. Any comments?

Before that can we decide on the logo to use on the website and
possibly twitter account? Shall we use the small tessellation as logo?

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=escher-logo.png

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 11:46:10 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:16:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
Message-ID: <87630alc4d.fsf@gmail.com>


Hello everyone,
        We were supposed to have an IRC meeting to discuss the prizes
for the newbie track. I personally forgot about the meeting completely
and couldn't show up. I don't know about the others. 

        Anyway. The talks are filling up nicely now. We have around 22
talks submitted. The keynote and another talk by David will be
extra. There are also a few more that I expect soon. Let's say 25
talks. 

        I think we can fit around 7 or 8 talks in a day in one
track. We have 3 rooms (including the big one) and one
auditorium. This is the breakup. 

        1 hall for the the FOSSEE engineering/scientific track
        1 hall for the hello world track
        2 halls for the regular talks. 

        We can accommodate around 20 to 22 regular talks. The afternoon
of the second day will be for lightning talks/open spaces/sprints
(someone actually proposed one to me in a private email) etc.

        We have a decent number of regular talks. I'm *very* interested
in making the "hello world" track work. It's a first time for any PyCon
(as far as I know) and it'd be a good way to help the community grow. I
think focusing our attention on this for the coming two weeks (and
extending the submission deadline for newbie talks if necessary) is
worth it. 

        Here are the things I can think of to encourage newbie talks. 

        - Announce a prize for the "best" newbie talk. 
          We can create a "judging commitee" and award something like a
          netbook to the winner. They cost between 17 and 22k and should
          be affordable for us. 

        - Announce that we can offer mentorship for the selected talks.
          One of us can actually help the chaps whose talks are selected
          to develop it and refine it. This should get rid of some
          unease.

        - Publicise this at colleges using printed materials. I will
          obtain a list of colleges where we can publicise this and then try to
          spread the word using printed flyers.

        I welcome other suggestions. This is a good way to help the
community grow and is arguable more important than the regular talks. 

        Let's discuss this for a while and then get down to some
action. 

Thanks
        

-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 12:58:10 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:28:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
In-Reply-To: <87630alc4d.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87630alc4d.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikIvpM8tcWjo72W-i91KgsLcghaS90XR6YtI3cm@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>        We were supposed to have an IRC meeting to discuss the prizes
> for the newbie track. I personally forgot about the meeting completely
> and couldn't show up. I don't know about the others.
>
>        Anyway. The talks are filling up nicely now. We have around 22
> talks submitted. The keynote and another talk by David will be
> extra. There are also a few more that I expect soon. Let's say 25
> talks.
>
>        I think we can fit around 7 or 8 talks in a day in one
> track. We have 3 rooms (including the big one) and one
> auditorium. This is the breakup.
>
>        1 hall for the the FOSSEE engineering/scientific track
>        1 hall for the hello world track
>        2 halls for the regular talks.
>
>        We can accommodate around 20 to 22 regular talks. The afternoon
> of the second day will be for lightning talks/open spaces/sprints
> (someone actually proposed one to me in a private email) etc.
>
>        We have a decent number of regular talks. I'm *very* interested
> in making the "hello world" track work. It's a first time for any PyCon
> (as far as I know) and it'd be a good way to help the community grow. I
> think focusing our attention on this for the coming two weeks (and
> extending the submission deadline for newbie talks if necessary) is
> worth it.
>
>        Here are the things I can think of to encourage newbie talks.
>
>        - Announce a prize for the "best" newbie talk.
>          We can create a "judging commitee" and award something like a
>          netbook to the winner. They cost between 17 and 22k and should
>          be affordable for us.
>
>        - Announce that we can offer mentorship for the selected talks.
>          One of us can actually help the chaps whose talks are selected
>          to develop it and refine it. This should get rid of some
>          unease.
>
>        - Publicise this at colleges using printed materials. I will
>          obtain a list of colleges where we can publicise this and then try
> to
>          spread the word using printed flyers.
>
>        I welcome other suggestions. This is a good way to help the
> community grow and is arguable more important than the regular talks.
>

+1 for the suggestion. We should encourage new folks to talk
in the conference. The definition of "newbie track" is track for
folks who are talking in a public/open forum for the very first time
(excluding college speaking etc).

Having the prize will definitely hark the attention from
students and those who just finished/are finishing college.
We can also co-brand the newbie track with any of the
sponsors if someone is interested to do this.

And as Noufal said, we can work with the newbie track
submission to help the folks submit their talk proposals. In fact
we perhaps already have one such track namely the most
recent submission by Shashwant Anand, who I helped to submit
a talk ("urged" is perhaps more correct if you ask Shashwat :-)

The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.

I also suggest that newbie tracks have the tag "newbie"
in the submission - we need to put this up in the CFP.


>
>        Let's discuss this for a while and then get down to some
> action.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
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Thanks,

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Jul 20 13:01:40 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:31:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
In-Reply-To: <87630alc4d.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87630alc4d.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007201631.40256.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 20 July 2010 15:16:10 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>    We can accommodate around 20 to 22 regular talks. The afternoon
> of the second day will be for lightning talks/open spaces/sprints
> (someone actually proposed one to me in a private email) etc.
> 

we also need to hold the society AGM in the afternoon of the 2nd day. OSM held 
their AGM in the lunch break - I hope we can do better!
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From santhosh.divakar at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:01:17 2010
From: santhosh.divakar at gmail.com (Santhosh Divakar)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:31:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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>
> The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
> 1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
> better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
> 50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.
>
>
+1 to Anand's suggestion.

In addition to cash prizes can't we also provide a certificate or plaque to
the presenters?. This would be really helpful and encouraging for newbies
and students  presenting the talks.

-Thanks
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Jul 20 13:02:46 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:32:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tuesday 20 July 2010 16:28:10 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> I also suggest that newbie tracks have the tag "newbie"
> in the submission - we need to put this up in the CFP.
> 

this is important - our CFP and talks already submitted have terrified the 
newbies
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From sree at mahiti.org  Tue Jul 20 13:08:09 2010
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:38:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On 20 July 2010 16:31, Santhosh Divakar <santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>> The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
>> 1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
>> better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
>> 50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.
>>
>>
> +1 to Anand's suggestion.
>
> In addition to cash prizes can't we also provide a certificate or plaque to
> the presenters?. This would be really helpful and encouraging for newbies
> and students  presenting the talks.
>


Also, I suggest rating people as "Top 3" instead of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
- sree

>
> -Thanks
> Santhosh
>
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:09:47 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:39:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 July 2010 16:28:10 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > I also suggest that newbie tracks have the tag "newbie"
> > in the submission - we need to put this up in the CFP.
> >
>
> this is important - our CFP and talks already submitted have terrified the
> newbies
>

I am not sure about that - but this is required to identify talks in
the "newbie" tracks as opposed to the regular track, since we don't
have any other way of doing it now.


> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:26:01 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:56:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>wrote:

>
>
> On 20 July 2010 16:31, Santhosh Divakar <santhosh.divakar at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
>>> 1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
>>> better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
>>> 50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.
>>>
>>>
>> +1 to Anand's suggestion.
>>
>> In addition to cash prizes can't we also provide a certificate or plaque
>> to the presenters?. This would be really helpful and encouraging for newbies
>> and students  presenting the talks.
>>
>
>
> Also, I suggest rating people as "Top 3" instead of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
>

 Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect
all prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get
enough submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less
(<=10 ?).


> - sree
>
>>
>> -Thanks
>> Santhosh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sreekanth S Rameshaiah
> Executive Director
> Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
> #583, Vyalikaval HBCS Layout,
> Nagawara, Veerannapalya,
> Bangalore, India - 560043
> Phone:  +91 80 4343 7373
> Mobile:  +91 98455 12611
> www.mahiti.org
>
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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:41:26 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:11:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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2010/7/20 Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah <sree at mahiti.org>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 20 July 2010 16:31, Santhosh Divakar <santhosh.divakar at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
>>>> 1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
>>>> better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
>>>> 50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1 to Anand's suggestion.
>>>
>>> In addition to cash prizes can't we also provide a certificate or plaque
>>> to the presenters?. This would be really helpful and encouraging for newbies
>>> and students? presenting the talks.
>>
>>
>> Also, I suggest rating people as "Top 3" instead of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
>
> ?Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect
> all prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get
> enough submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less
> (<=10 ?).

Do we have enough money to give 2/3 netbooks as prizes?

Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 13:50:23 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:20:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> >>
> >> Also, I suggest rating people as "Top 3" instead of 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
> >
> >  Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect
> > all prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get
> > enough submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less
> > (<=10 ?).
>
>
> Do we have enough money to give 2/3 netbooks as prizes?
>

No - I don't think we should even if we have. I didn't agree
with "Top 3" having same prize, so whatever we say "Top 3"
or "Top 1 2 3", the prizes have to be tiered.


>
> Anand
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:05:16 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:35:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

[...]

>
>  Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect all
> prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get enough
> submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less (<=10 ?).

[...]

While that's a good idea (deferred decisions), we won't be able to
publicise it effectively. We need to decide upfront whether we'll have
one or three and then pitch it. "SUBMIT YOUR TALK FOR A CHANCE TO WIN AN
HP NETBOOK! w00t!". 

If we *are* going with 3, I think "1st, 2nd, 3rd" is better than "Top 3"
which, like Anand suggested, carries with it the air of 3 same
prizes. Also, Top 3, at least to me, suggests that we're trying to not
hurt feelings etc. Sort of weak.

However, I'm not sure if we need to keep 3 prizes at all. The whole
scheme is to bribe otherwise shy people into delivering talks and so one
should be enough. Also, if we can pool our resources into a single
prize, we can make it a good one - Remember, our budget is limited. 

Apropos prizes, what do you recommend? I think a netbook is a good
option. Fancy phone? O'Reilly gift vouchers? Gaming console? Something
exotic from thinkgeek [1]? I don't like the idea of gift vouchers for
local stores (e.g. Croma) since the winner might be from a place which
doesn't have these stores.



Footnotes: 
[1]  http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/

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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:06:56 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:36:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Santhosh Divakar <santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> writes:

>>
>> The only other thing to discuss is should we have more than
>> 1 prize - i.e 2nd or 3rd prizes. I suggest two prizes are perhaps
>> better than 1. The second could be just a cash prize upto
>> 50% of value of the first or a gift voucher.
>>
>>
> +1 to Anand's suggestion.
>
> In addition to cash prizes can't we also provide a certificate or plaque to
> the presenters?. This would be really helpful and encouraging for newbies
> and students  presenting the talks.

[...]

A certificate perhaps. I think we can do that. Some students last year
asked about them. Good idea Santhosh.

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From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:20:44 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:50:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >
> >  Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect all
> > prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get enough
> > submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less (<=10 ?).
>
> [...]
>
> While that's a good idea (deferred decisions), we won't be able to
> publicise it effectively. We need to decide upfront whether we'll have
> one or three and then pitch it. "SUBMIT YOUR TALK FOR A CHANCE TO WIN AN
> HP NETBOOK! w00t!".
>
> If we *are* going with 3, I think "1st, 2nd, 3rd" is better than "Top 3"
> which, like Anand suggested, carries with it the air of 3 same
> prizes. Also, Top 3, at least to me, suggests that we're trying to not
> hurt feelings etc. Sort of weak.
>
> However, I'm not sure if we need to keep 3 prizes at all. The whole
> scheme is to bribe otherwise shy people into delivering talks and so one
> should be enough. Also, if we can pool our resources into a single
> prize, we can make it a good one - Remember, our budget is limited.
>

 Yes - I kind of favor a single prize now to think of it. A single
prize can be marketed more effectively and more competitively
than a set of three.

 Like Noufal said, "Enter a talk for a chance to win an HP Pavilion
netbook" is definitely more appealing/inspiring than " Enter a talk for a
chance to win an Acer netbook or IPod Touch or a gift voucher".

Yes-  we definitely need certificates also. Plaques - I don't think so.
They are more difficult to get right and don't have too much
of additional value.



> Apropos prizes, what do you recommend? I think a netbook is a good
> option. Fancy phone? O'Reilly gift vouchers? Gaming console? Something
> exotic from thinkgeek [1]? I don't like the idea of gift vouchers for
> local stores (e.g. Croma) since the winner might be from a place which
> doesn't have these stores.
>
>
>
> Footnotes:
> [1]  http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/
>
> --
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From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:56:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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2010/7/20 Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >
>> > ?Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect all
>> > prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get enough
>> > submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less (<=10 ?).
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> While that's a good idea (deferred decisions), we won't be able to
>> publicise it effectively. We need to decide upfront whether we'll have
>> one or three and then pitch it. "SUBMIT YOUR TALK FOR A CHANCE TO WIN AN
>> HP NETBOOK! w00t!".
>>
>> If we *are* going with 3, I think "1st, 2nd, 3rd" is better than "Top 3"
>> which, like Anand suggested, carries with it the air of 3 same
>> prizes. Also, Top 3, at least to me, suggests that we're trying to not
>> hurt feelings etc. Sort of weak.
>>
>> However, I'm not sure if we need to keep 3 prizes at all. The whole
>> scheme is to bribe otherwise shy people into delivering talks and so one
>> should be enough. Also, if we can pool our resources into a single
>> prize, we can make it a good one - Remember, our budget is limited.
>
> ?Yes - I kind of favor a single prize now to think of it. A single
> prize can be marketed more effectively and more competitively
> than a set of three.
>
> ?Like Noufal said, "Enter a talk for a chance to win an HP Pavilion
> netbook" is definitely more appealing/inspiring than " Enter a talk for a
> chance to win an Acer netbook or IPod Touch or a gift voucher".
>
> Yes-? we definitely need certificates also. Plaques - I don't think so.
> They are more difficult to get right and don't have too much
> of additional value.

+1 for single prize.

Now the next question is who is eligible?

Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:27:57 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:57:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >
>> >  Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect all
>> > prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get enough
>> > submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less (<=10 ?).
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> While that's a good idea (deferred decisions), we won't be able to
>> publicise it effectively. We need to decide upfront whether we'll have
>> one or three and then pitch it. "SUBMIT YOUR TALK FOR A CHANCE TO WIN AN
>> HP NETBOOK! w00t!".
>>
>> If we *are* going with 3, I think "1st, 2nd, 3rd" is better than "Top 3"
>> which, like Anand suggested, carries with it the air of 3 same
>> prizes. Also, Top 3, at least to me, suggests that we're trying to not
>> hurt feelings etc. Sort of weak.
>>
>> However, I'm not sure if we need to keep 3 prizes at all. The whole
>> scheme is to bribe otherwise shy people into delivering talks and so one
>> should be enough. Also, if we can pool our resources into a single
>> prize, we can make it a good one - Remember, our budget is limited.
>>
>
>  Yes - I kind of favor a single prize now to think of it. A single
> prize can be marketed more effectively and more competitively
> than a set of three.
>
>  Like Noufal said, "Enter a talk for a chance to win an HP Pavilion
> netbook" is definitely more appealing/inspiring than " Enter a talk for a
> chance to win an Acer netbook or IPod Touch or a gift voucher".
>
> Yes-  we definitely need certificates also. Plaques - I don't think so.
> They are more difficult to get right and don't have too much
> of additional value.
>

It would be nice to finalize it this week i.e by Friday and start
announcing and marketing in colleges. Noufal - time to put
up another poll ? ;-)

The "official" deadline for talks close in another 11 days and I would
like to get this out much before that. We can extend the deadline,
but better to get the message out before doing it.


>
>
>
>
>
Thanks,

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From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:59:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2010/7/20 Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >
> >> >  Should we have 3 or 2 ? If we say "Top 3" won't they expect all
> >> > prizes to be the same ? I suggest keeping it "Top 3" if we get enough
> >> > submissions (>=15 ?) and just one prize if we get less (<=10 ?).
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> While that's a good idea (deferred decisions), we won't be able to
> >> publicise it effectively. We need to decide upfront whether we'll have
> >> one or three and then pitch it. "SUBMIT YOUR TALK FOR A CHANCE TO WIN AN
> >> HP NETBOOK! w00t!".
> >>
> >> If we *are* going with 3, I think "1st, 2nd, 3rd" is better than "Top 3"
> >> which, like Anand suggested, carries with it the air of 3 same
> >> prizes. Also, Top 3, at least to me, suggests that we're trying to not
> >> hurt feelings etc. Sort of weak.
> >>
> >> However, I'm not sure if we need to keep 3 prizes at all. The whole
> >> scheme is to bribe otherwise shy people into delivering talks and so one
> >> should be enough. Also, if we can pool our resources into a single
> >> prize, we can make it a good one - Remember, our budget is limited.
> >
> >  Yes - I kind of favor a single prize now to think of it. A single
> > prize can be marketed more effectively and more competitively
> > than a set of three.
> >
> >  Like Noufal said, "Enter a talk for a chance to win an HP Pavilion
> > netbook" is definitely more appealing/inspiring than " Enter a talk for a
> > chance to win an Acer netbook or IPod Touch or a gift voucher".
> >
> > Yes-  we definitely need certificates also. Plaques - I don't think so.
> > They are more difficult to get right and don't have too much
> > of additional value.
>
> +1 for single prize.
>
> Now the next question is who is eligible?
>

Everyone who submits a "newbie" track talk. Winner to be decided
by a panel of judges and announced on the 2nd day - Panel should
include David and anyone else from us.

Fine ?


>
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From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:08:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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[...]
>> Now the next question is who is eligible?
>
> Everyone who submits a "newbie" track talk. Winner to be decided
> by a panel of judges and announced on the 2nd day - Panel should
> include David and anyone else from us.
>
> Fine ?

I thought "newbie" is the level of the speaker. I think we should only
make students eligible for this prize.

Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:45:00 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:15:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> [...]
> >> Now the next question is who is eligible?
> >
> > Everyone who submits a "newbie" track talk. Winner to be decided
> > by a panel of judges and announced on the 2nd day - Panel should
> > include David and anyone else from us.
> >
> > Fine ?
>
> I thought "newbie" is the level of the speaker. I think we should only
> make students eligible for this prize.
>

That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a newbie
is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the future"
feeling ?

Perhaps I am being unduly worrying here...
Many of us are talkers here ourselves - what do you feel ?


>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:25:10 +0530
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2010/7/20 Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>> >> Now the next question is who is eligible?
>> >
>> > Everyone who submits a "newbie" track talk. Winner to be decided
>> > by a panel of judges and announced on the 2nd day - Panel should
>> > include David and anyone else from us.
>> >
>> > Fine ?
>>
>> I thought "newbie" is the level of the speaker. I think we should only
>> make students eligible for this prize.
>
> That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
> i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
> not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a newbie
> is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the future"
> feeling ?
>
> Perhaps I am being unduly worrying here...
> Many of us are talkers here ourselves - what do you feel ?

Let me ask another question. What is motivation for doing this? To get
more newbie speakers or newbie audience?

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:57:50 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:27:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> Everyone who submits a "newbie" track talk. Winner to be decided by a
> panel of judges and announced on the 2nd day - Panel should include
> David and anyone else from us.
>
> Fine ?

[...]

Yes. This is fine. 

We will first review all the "newbie" talks and filter out the good
ones. That's stage 1. 

After that, the people will present their talks and we'll judge them to
decide the winner. Criteria will be things like preparation etc. 

It might not be just students who are submitting newbie talks but also
professionals. We should take this into consideration. If a talk is
introductory but about a not very well known technology, we can move it
into the regular track. 



-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:59:15 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:29:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilcWZfRzwagWXVcrJtrEqoTVgIaKQpjw3uOTOmW@mail.gmail.com>
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> Yes- we definitely need certificates also. Plaques - I don't think so.
> They are more difficult to get right and don't have too much of
> additional value.

[...]

I think we can give certificates to all the newbies who speak. No extra
costs from us and some extra karma for them. 





-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:01:06 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:31:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> Let me ask another question. What is motivation for doing this? To get
> more newbie speakers or newbie audience?

[...]

There will be student crowd and others. I'm not worried about audience. 

This is to get newbie speakers. 

-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:04:16 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:34:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
> i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
> not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a
> newbie is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the
> future" feeling ?

That kind of thing is a little immature isn't it? There are many
speakers who I don't know personally but the ones I do know wouldn't
consider it like this. Most of them give talks because it's PyCon and
because they can share their ideas with a larger like minded crowd. 

The n00bs don't know this feeling which is why this whole evil ploy to
entice them with something more material.

> Perhaps I am being unduly worrying here...  Many of us are talkers
> here ourselves - what do you feel ?

Speaking for myself, I don't have an issue at all. But I'm biased since
I'm heavily involved in organising the conference and want this to
sauced. 


[...]



-- 

From santhosh.divakar at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:12:27 2010
From: santhosh.divakar at gmail.com (Santhosh Divakar)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:42:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
> > i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
> > not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a
> > newbie is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the
> > future" feeling ?
>
> That kind of thing is a little immature isn't it? There are many
> speakers who I don't know personally but the ones I do know wouldn't
> consider it like this. Most of them give talks because it's PyCon and
> because they can share their ideas with a larger like minded crowd.
>
>
Anand, I believe, has raised a valid point. Yes there is for and against
this point. But we might not want to hear comments like """next time I am
going to present in the newbie section and win a prize rather""".  I am not
talking about speakers of stature of David , but ... .

Perhaps would not it be good to honour the speakers themselves with
something across the board?. Like waiving off their registration fee or
something?. There is no contesty(sic) thing here, but just as a token of
appreciation?.

-Santhosh
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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:15:16 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:45:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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2010/7/20 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> Let me ask another question. What is motivation for doing this? To get
>> more newbie speakers or newbie audience?
>
> [...]
>
> There will be student crowd and others. I'm not worried about audience.
>
> This is to get newbie speakers.

Then putting the prize might have a negative effect. Since there is a
prize many experienced people will submit talks in newbie track and
newbies will get discouraged.

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:52:17 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:22:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Santhosh Divakar <
santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
>> > i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
>> > not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a
>> > newbie is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the
>> > future" feeling ?
>>
>> That kind of thing is a little immature isn't it? There are many
>> speakers who I don't know personally but the ones I do know wouldn't
>> consider it like this. Most of them give talks because it's PyCon and
>> because they can share their ideas with a larger like minded crowd.
>>
>>
> Anand, I believe, has raised a valid point. Yes there is for and against
> this point. But we might not want to hear comments like """next time I am
> going to present in the newbie section and win a prize rather""".  I am not
> talking about speakers of stature of David , but ... .
>
> Perhaps would not it be good to honour the speakers themselves with
> something across the board?. Like waiving off their registration fee or
> something?. There is no contesty(sic) thing here, but just as a token of
> appreciation?.
>

I raised this point in the spirit of arguing against one's own
opinion - to form a good opinion. I was the person who proposed
the newbie track idea in the first place to Noufal, but I thought
it is better to think of everything before we announce it.

A newbie according to me is one who answers "no" to all
the questions below.

1. Have you ever talked in a conference before ? (exclude
 talks which you gave in your own college or organization)

2. Have you given the talk you are submitting in a similar
or same form anywhere else before ?

And he is mostly a student, but need not be one.

We don't expect people to cheat on this, but it could still
happen and there is no way to find it out for sure.

One way to solve all these at one go is to rename "newbie"
track as "student" track which resolves many dilemmas
in a single go - first of all this reserves the track to students
only and we can always identify them (college ID card etc)
so no dilemmas w.r.t identifying whether the guy is
really a "newbie" or not.

 Secondly, it is rather easy to find out a student talk from
the submission itself - unless the guy is a guru and has been
giving talks from his 2nd yr in college, it always has that
"raw" feel to it.  We could always ask the student to get the
talk reviewed by one of us before submitting us and he
will be willing to do that.


Thoughts ?


> -Santhosh
>
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From steve at lonetwin.net  Tue Jul 20 17:39:07 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:09:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On 07/20/2010 08:22 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> [...snip...]
> I raised this point in the spirit of arguing against one's own
> opinion - to form a good opinion. I was the person who proposed
> the newbie track idea in the first place to Noufal, but I thought
> it is better to think of everything before we announce it.
>
> A newbie according to me is one who answers "no" to all
> the questions below.
>
> 1. Have you ever talked in a conference before ? (exclude
>   talks which you gave in your own college or organization)
>
> 2. Have you given the talk you are submitting in a similar
> or same form anywhere else before ?
>
> And he is mostly a student, but need not be one.
>
> We don't expect people to cheat on this, but it could still
> happen and there is no way to find it out for sure.
>
> One way to solve all these at one go is to rename "newbie"
> track as "student" track which resolves many dilemmas
> in a single go - first of all this reserves the track to students
> only and we can always identify them (college ID card etc)
> so no dilemmas w.r.t identifying whether the guy is
> really a "newbie" or not.
>

I'd vote against this. I would recommend calling it something along the lines of 
"amateur's track". This (hopefully) will dissuade people who consider themselves 
as 'professionals' to sumbit talks just for the prize but more importantly would 
encourage another set of 'newbies' to submit talks -- the set of newbies that 
are not new to computing but are absolutely new to python programming (think 
sys-admins, qa, support ...etc). Don't know if your initial thoughts for these 
talks included these type of speakers, but I think it would be justified to 
include 'em.


cheers,
- steve
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From renukaprasadb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 17:57:13 2010
From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:27:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Santhosh Divakar <
> santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
>>> > i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
>>> > not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a
>>> > newbie is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the
>>> > future" feeling ?
>>>
>>> That kind of thing is a little immature isn't it? There are many
>>> speakers who I don't know personally but the ones I do know wouldn't
>>> consider it like this. Most of them give talks because it's PyCon and
>>> because they can share their ideas with a larger like minded crowd.
>>>
>>>
>> Anand, I believe, has raised a valid point. Yes there is for and against
>> this point. But we might not want to hear comments like """next time I am
>> going to present in the newbie section and win a prize rather""".  I am not
>> talking about speakers of stature of David , but ... .
>>
>> Perhaps would not it be good to honour the speakers themselves with
>> something across the board?. Like waiving off their registration fee or
>> something?. There is no contesty(sic) thing here, but just as a token of
>> appreciation?.
>>
>
> I raised this point in the spirit of arguing against one's own
> opinion - to form a good opinion. I was the person who proposed
> the newbie track idea in the first place to Noufal, but I thought
> it is better to think of everything before we announce it.
>
> A newbie according to me is one who answers "no" to all
> the questions below.
>
> 1. Have you ever talked in a conference before ? (exclude
>  talks which you gave in your own college or organization)
>
> 2. Have you given the talk you are submitting in a similar
> or same form anywhere else before ?
>
> And he is mostly a student, but need not be one.
>
> We don't expect people to cheat on this, but it could still
> happen and there is no way to find it out for sure.
>
> One way to solve all these at one go is to rename "newbie"
> track as "student" track which resolves many dilemmas
> in a single go - first of all this reserves the track to students
> only and we can always identify them (college ID card etc)
> so no dilemmas w.r.t identifying whether the guy is
> really a "newbie" or not.
>
>  Secondly, it is rather easy to find out a student talk from
> the submission itself - unless the guy is a guru and has been
> giving talks from his 2nd yr in college, it always has that
> "raw" feel to it.  We could always ask the student to get the
> talk reviewed by one of us before submitting us and he
> will be willing to do that.
>
>
> Thoughts ?
>
>
all the above wont help in building the community, if you want to know the
reasons for me saying so read below else skip

----------------------
M$ came up with something called - be ".netStudent"  where they made
ambassadors in each college to promote their products

IBM came up with something called "excellence center", IBM great mind
challenge , first year there were 20 projects submitted from our college,
then 4 and this year 0 and never in future

Sun came up with something called "Freedom Contest"  or code for freedom ,
something i dont remember properly they also had similar to what you people
are thinking like giving out laptops, ipods etc etc ..( sun used to pay 6k
per month per ambassador to promote sun products,  )

then Samsung, HCL , etc etc etc ....

even IEEE also is engaged in pushing its chapter in every college to get
more votes at asia level etc etc and sponsoring 10,000 for each event
conducted at college level of course for that there are many conditions ...

well all these may look irrelevant, but seeing the students mentality , most
of the student whom we depute will go to those events where there are
monetary benefits and all the above where having two benefits , either some
gifts + goodies + certificates , which were all done for certificates etc
etc

well to attract student crowd the simplest way is to just promote the normal
way as it is done for any other conference, students are matured enough ,
those who are really interested they will come and they will have sustained
long term relation with any community

if a language has to get popular, if a community has to be built, i
recommend some of you to spend some time in going to colleges and give
seminars or conduct a short workshop or any other way to make student
impressed ( use the amount what you want to give it to students to pay for
TA + DA / honorarium for those who take sessions, infact you people can
raise funds also or charge for giving talks or conducting workshop ( a very
nominal one) .

It takes lot of time to build  community, many of you here have that
experience , i dont have to remind about these..

if you people go to colleges and give talks and then ask them to attend
conference, the it will have some impact ... otherwise as far as i see there
is very little awareness about the language , then how can we expect some
one to give talk, more over it is vacation time , students are also busy
with their placement activities , during this time i dont see any activity
till mid august , even to do any publicity for the conference in colleges (
i am talking about engineering colleges which are autonomous , there are
colleges which are under VTU which reopen by august , may be there we may
get some crowd to talk )

----------------

>
>> -Santhosh
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Inpycon at python.org
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>>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
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From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:19:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:27 PM, renuka prasad <renukaprasadb at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Santhosh Divakar <
>> santhosh.divakar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > That got me thinking about - will there by any kind of repercussion
>>>> > i.e frustration among regular talk folks ("seniors" so to speak) of
>>>> > not being considered for a similar prize ? Kind of like "being a
>>>> > newbie is an advantage, no point in talking in this conf in the
>>>> > future" feeling ?
>>>>
>>>> That kind of thing is a little immature isn't it? There are many
>>>> speakers who I don't know personally but the ones I do know wouldn't
>>>> consider it like this. Most of them give talks because it's PyCon and
>>>> because they can share their ideas with a larger like minded crowd.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Anand, I believe, has raised a valid point. Yes there is for and against
>>> this point. But we might not want to hear comments like """next time I am
>>> going to present in the newbie section and win a prize rather""".  I am not
>>> talking about speakers of stature of David , but ... .
>>>
>>> Perhaps would not it be good to honour the speakers themselves with
>>> something across the board?. Like waiving off their registration fee or
>>> something?. There is no contesty(sic) thing here, but just as a token of
>>> appreciation?.
>>>
>>
>> I raised this point in the spirit of arguing against one's own
>> opinion - to form a good opinion. I was the person who proposed
>> the newbie track idea in the first place to Noufal, but I thought
>> it is better to think of everything before we announce it.
>>
>> A newbie according to me is one who answers "no" to all
>> the questions below.
>>
>> 1. Have you ever talked in a conference before ? (exclude
>>  talks which you gave in your own college or organization)
>>
>> 2. Have you given the talk you are submitting in a similar
>> or same form anywhere else before ?
>>
>> And he is mostly a student, but need not be one.
>>
>> We don't expect people to cheat on this, but it could still
>> happen and there is no way to find it out for sure.
>>
>> One way to solve all these at one go is to rename "newbie"
>> track as "student" track which resolves many dilemmas
>> in a single go - first of all this reserves the track to students
>> only and we can always identify them (college ID card etc)
>> so no dilemmas w.r.t identifying whether the guy is
>> really a "newbie" or not.
>>
>>  Secondly, it is rather easy to find out a student talk from
>> the submission itself - unless the guy is a guru and has been
>> giving talks from his 2nd yr in college, it always has that
>> "raw" feel to it.  We could always ask the student to get the
>> talk reviewed by one of us before submitting us and he
>> will be willing to do that.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>>
> all the above wont help in building the community, if you want to know the
> reasons for me saying so read below else skip
>
> ----------------------
> M$ came up with something called - be ".netStudent"  where they made
> ambassadors in each college to promote their products
>
> IBM came up with something called "excellence center", IBM great mind
> challenge , first year there were 20 projects submitted from our college,
> then 4 and this year 0 and never in future
>
> Sun came up with something called "Freedom Contest"  or code for freedom ,
> something i dont remember properly they also had similar to what you people
> are thinking like giving out laptops, ipods etc etc ..( sun used to pay 6k
> per month per ambassador to promote sun products,  )
>
> then Samsung, HCL , etc etc etc ....
>
> even IEEE also is engaged in pushing its chapter in every college to get
> more votes at asia level etc etc and sponsoring 10,000 for each event
> conducted at college level of course for that there are many conditions ...
>
> well all these may look irrelevant, but seeing the students mentality ,
> most of the student whom we depute will go to those events where there are
> monetary benefits and all the above where having two benefits , either some
> gifts + goodies + certificates , which were all done for certificates etc
> etc
>
> well to attract student crowd the simplest way is to just promote the
> normal way as it is done for any other conference, students are matured
> enough , those who are really interested they will come and they will have
> sustained long term relation with any community
>
> if a language has to get popular, if a community has to be built, i
> recommend some of you to spend some time in going to colleges and give
> seminars or conduct a short workshop or any other way to make student
> impressed ( use the amount what you want to give it to students to pay for
> TA + DA / honorarium for those who take sessions, infact you people can
> raise funds also or charge for giving talks or conducting workshop ( a very
> nominal one) .
>
> It takes lot of time to build  community, many of you here have that
> experience , i dont have to remind about these..
>
> if you people go to colleges and give talks and then ask them to attend
> conference, the it will have some impact ... otherwise as far as i see there
> is very little awareness about the language , then how can we expect some
> one to give talk, more over it is vacation time , students are also busy
> with their placement activities , during this time i dont see any activity
> till mid august , even to do any publicity for the conference in colleges (
> i am talking about engineering colleges which are autonomous , there are
> colleges which are under VTU which reopen by august , may be there we may
> get some crowd to talk )
>


+1 . Clearly for the best contribution swag and prizes should not matter. I
agree with Renuka we can have the community grow only through constant
contact and discussions. There are students who find out about such
conferences and make it point to attend but through constant contact and
interaction we can have many students appreciating the language and coming
forward to contribute in any way.

>
> ----------------
>
>>
>>> -Santhosh
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 19:20:51 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:50:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

> Then putting the prize might have a negative effect. Since there is a
> prize many experienced people will submit talks in newbie track and
> newbies will get discouraged.

[...]

Saying that a talk is "newbie" is a hint to the selection committee that
is. We're not obliged to put it in the "hello world" track. If we feel
that it's too advanced for that, we can move it to the regular track. 


-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 19:31:45 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:01:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Hmmm. This is a pretty can of worms. 

Let's step back. The basic idea is to encourage more newbies to speak
(this includes students and people who haven't really participated in
community conferences before). The prize is meant to encourage them but
the feeling is that it might discourage the regular speakers.

Maybe we should drop the prize completely and just provide a certificate
or something to all the newbies who present. The experienced crowd won't
need something like this and the students would be encouraged by it. 

Also, Renuka Prasad's point on publicty is valid. We're not reaching out
sufficiently. I don't think we have the bandwidth to conduct courses at
colleges. We'll have to do a few at MSRIT as part of the whole venue
deal. 



-- 

From mails at anirudh.ind.in  Wed Jul 21 05:46:32 2010
From: mails at anirudh.ind.in (Anirudh Asokan)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:16:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQdOaijHqJ59mekm4SPT2HjiNbnvL9PITBveMn@mail.gmail.com>

I dont know if you are aware..  Most engineering colleges dont open till 1st
of Aug and the autonomous engineering colleges(rv, pesit, ramaiah etc) till
end of Aug.

-- 
Cheers,
Anirudh Asokan
www.anirudh.ind.in
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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 07:20:24 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:50:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Okay. Let's decide what to do and do it. 

I propose that we scrap the idea of a "grand prize" but give
certificates to all the student (not newbie) speakers. They're the ones
we're encouraging.

Also, we advertise that we can provide mentors to students. 

Since the colleges thing will start only by Aug 1 or so, let's try to
get some posters and stuff there before that and extend the deadline to
Aug 10 or so (for student presenters anyway).

Comments?

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Jul 21 08:15:26 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:45:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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On Tuesday 20 July 2010 18:15:00 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> Perhaps I am being unduly worrying here...
> Many of us are talkers here ourselves - what do you feel ?
> 

I do not think any senior would want to compete for a prize
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 10:35:30 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:05:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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Quoting Paul Graham here : "It's a lot of work to learn a new programming
language. And people don't learn Python because it will get them a job; they
learn it because they genuinely like to program and aren't satisfied with
the languages they already know." [*]

I am 0- on certificate part. Not every student care about certis. And those
who care won't care to learn python unless it gives them job security and
grades. They will be busy with the academics and C++/Java assignments. I
really don't know a lot of students using python.
+1 for prizes - It invokes a competitive feeling. However again I don't
think any senior speaker will feel bad that they are not given a chance to
compete for prizes, which is kinda kiddish for them. But if the idea is
objectionable to other's (which I doubt), the idea can be dropped.

PS.  Thanks for Anand for pushing me and reviewing my application :)

[*] 'The Python Paradox': http://www.paulgraham.com/pypar.html
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From: mails at anirudh.ind.in (Anirudh Asokan)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:53:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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@noufal: Is 10th Aug. good enough? Because MSRIT itself is reopening on 16
Aug, NMIT(mine ;)) on 30th Aug. Cant we extent it a bit further? Maybe not
till 30th, but atleast till 20th?
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 04:59:48 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:29:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Prizes/mentors for newbie track
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	(Anirudh Asokan's message of "Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:53:04 +0530")
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Anirudh Asokan <mails at anirudh.ind.in> writes:

> @noufal: Is 10th Aug. good enough? Because MSRIT itself is reopening
> on 16 Aug, NMIT(mine ;)) on 30th Aug. Cant we extent it a bit further?
> Maybe not till 30th, but atleast till 20th?


That's kind of late. We'll need time. What's the general feeling?



-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 08:45:30 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:15:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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Okay. We'll get the T-shirt business rolling. 

Since it's this late, I'm not sure if there's any point in updating the
site with the new logo.

Lesson for next year - Finish off the logo and branding up front so that
we have a single concrete identity which will survive throughout the
whole conference.


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From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:02:46 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:32:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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2010/7/22 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>
> Okay. We'll get the T-shirt business rolling.
>
> Since it's this late, I'm not sure if there's any point in updating the
> site with the new logo.

I don't agree. We can start creating that identity even from now. We
still have long time for the conference.

We can put the logo on the website, twitter, posters and banners.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:27:46 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:57:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:

> 2010/7/22 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Okay. We'll get the T-shirt business rolling.
>>
>> Since it's this late, I'm not sure if there's any point in updating the
>> site with the new logo.
>
> I don't agree. We can start creating that identity even from now. We
> still have long time for the conference.

No harm in that. I don't think it'll have much benefit though. You can
talk to Abhishek and get it done. 


> We can put the logo on the website, twitter, posters and banners.

Yes. 
Posters and banners -  we'll do when we get down to printing them.
Can you scale the logo and drop it in twitter?


[...]


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul 22 09:31:10 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:01:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007221301.10531.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday, July 12, 2010 10:49:34 pm anil kumar wrote:
> > as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
> > please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility
> > of having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.

I have started the process of mapping from yahoo imagery:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03091&lon=77.56634&zoom=17&layers=M I am 
having some eye trouble, so can others help out also? If we do the preliminary 
stuff now, we can fine tune during the mapping party - and anyway once we show 
our map is better than goog we can convince the inpycon guys to use our map. 
If someone could cycle around the campus and also note places for refreshment 
etc, it would be cool.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 09:40:19 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:10:19 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <201007221301.10531.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:01:10 +0530")
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007221301.10531.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Monday, July 12, 2010 10:49:34 pm anil kumar wrote:
>> > as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
>> > please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility
>> > of having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
>
> I have started the process of mapping from yahoo imagery:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03091&lon=77.56634&zoom=17&layers=M I am 
> having some eye trouble, so can others help out also? If we do the preliminary 
> stuff now, we can fine tune during the mapping party - and anyway once we show 
> our map is better than goog we can convince the inpycon guys to use our map. 
> If someone could cycle around the campus and also note places for refreshment 
> etc, it would be cool.

I've put a blog post about this on the site blog (and auto tweeted it).
I've also created a "related events" page linked to from the front page
that mentions this - http://in.pycon.org/2010/related_events

The navbar on top is a little crowded as it is. I'm not sure if I can
squeeze this page in there. 

Thanks
-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:09:32 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:39:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Escher tessellation style logo
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2010/7/22 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> 2010/7/22 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Okay. We'll get the T-shirt business rolling.
>>>
>>> Since it's this late, I'm not sure if there's any point in updating the
>>> site with the new logo.
>>
>> I don't agree. We can start creating that identity even from now. We
>> still have long time for the conference.
>
> No harm in that. I don't think it'll have much benefit though. You can
> talk to Abhishek and get it done.
>
>
>> We can put the logo on the website, twitter, posters and banners.
>
> Yes.
> Posters and banners - ?we'll do when we get down to printing them.
> Can you scale the logo and drop it in twitter?

Sure. I'm also thinking of creating a favicon.

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul 22 11:35:03 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:05:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <201007221301.10531.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikspyfZcnXgUsYFq-LH5L9sZR0S9IzzgRmTrMjL@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007221301.10531.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <201007221505.03493.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday, July 22, 2010 01:01:10 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Monday, July 12, 2010 10:49:34 pm anil kumar wrote:
> > > as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to
> > > learn, please book them - first come first served. There is a real
> > > possibility of having a sprint on some python related matter of
> > > importance to OSM.
> 
> I have started the process of mapping from yahoo imagery:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03091&lon=77.56634&zoom=17&layers=M I
> am  having some eye trouble, so can others help out also? If we do the
> preliminary stuff now, we can fine tune during the mapping party - and
> anyway once we show our map is better than goog we can convince the
> inpycon guys to use our map. If someone could cycle around the campus and
> also note places for refreshment etc, it would be cool.

oops - this mail should have gone to the OSM list - sorry!
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 15:05:13 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:35:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kenneth,

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> hi,
>
> the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango
> for
> one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else.
> Pythonistas
> who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with the
> conference. The details are here:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore
>
> In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the
> following
> requests:
> 1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the
> conference
> 2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html is
> here:
>
> <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
> marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"
> src="
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik
> "
> style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a
> href="
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT
> ">View
> Larger Map</a></small>
>
> 3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one
>
> 4. and, of course, tweet about it.
>
> as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
> please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility of
> having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
>

I have a Nokia N900 with a pretty decent built-in GPS device. I would like
to contribute to the party. Let me know the "modalities"...

When is this planned ? I hope it is right after the conference since
I don't want to miss talks...


> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


Thanks,

-- 
--Anand
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From hvram1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 16:36:32 2010
From: hvram1 at gmail.com (Harihara Vinayakaram)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:06:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Given all the hype about Cloud Computing will there be any interest about
Disco (http://www.discoproject.org) . I have some experience in running a
Disco Cluster . This is a Hadoop equivalent  . I can maybe talk about
setting up a Haddop cluster and writing jobs for it versus doing it for a
Disco Cluster.  But i have not heard too much noise about the project so not
sure if that will be well received

Regards
Hari

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kenneth,
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango
>> for
>> one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else.
>> Pythonistas
>> who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with the
>> conference. The details are here:
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore
>>
>> In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the
>> following
>> requests:
>> 1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the
>> conference
>> 2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html is
>> here:
>>
>> <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
>> marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"
>> src="
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik
>> "
>> style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a
>> href="
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT
>> ">View
>> Larger Map</a></small>
>>
>> 3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one
>>
>> 4. and, of course, tweet about it.
>>
>>
>> as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
>> please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility of
>> having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
>>
>
> I have a Nokia N900 with a pretty decent built-in GPS device. I would like
> to contribute to the party. Let me know the "modalities"...
>
> When is this planned ? I hope it is right after the conference since
> I don't want to miss talks...
>
>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Senior Associate
>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 17:05:54 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:35:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHgWDLXK3eXE0Zol8KLYPaqvAAePBkUyNb-yAk@mail.gmail.com>
	(Harihara Vinayakaram's message of "Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:06:32 +0530")
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>
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Harihara Vinayakaram <hvram1 at gmail.com> writes:

> Given all the hype about Cloud Computing will there be any interest about
> Disco (http://www.discoproject.org) . I have some experience in running a
> Disco Cluster . This is a Hadoop equivalent  . I can maybe talk about
> setting up a Haddop cluster and writing jobs for it versus doing it for a
> Disco Cluster.  But i have not heard too much noise about the project so not
> sure if that will be well received

[...]

Feel free to propose a paper. The variety will surely help.

-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 18:02:26 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:32:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHgWDLXK3eXE0Zol8KLYPaqvAAePBkUyNb-yAk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Harihara Vinayakaram <hvram1 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Given all the hype about Cloud Computing will there be any interest about
> Disco (http://www.discoproject.org) . I have some experience in running a
> Disco Cluster . This is a Hadoop equivalent  . I can maybe talk about
> setting up a Haddop cluster and writing jobs for it versus doing it for a
> Disco Cluster.  But i have not heard too much noise about the project so not
> sure if that will be well received
>

On the contrary I would say. I have been reading about Hadoop and similar
technologies and have read a lot about Disco, it being the chosen solution
by Nokia if I am not wrong. With an Erlang back-end and jobs written in
Python, it is a great tool.

I have been trying to learn it in deep, but not found a reason apart
from academic interest. So, a talk on Disco from my perspective
is just perfect. I am sure there are others who share similar opinions.

Please submit it.


>
> Regards
> Hari
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Kenneth,
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango
>>> for
>>> one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else.
>>> Pythonistas
>>> who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with
>>> the
>>> conference. The details are here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore
>>>
>>> In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the
>>> following
>>> requests:
>>> 1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the
>>> conference
>>> 2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html
>>> is
>>> here:
>>>
>>> <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
>>> marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"
>>> src="
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik
>>> "
>>> style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a
>>> href="
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B000FTFT
>>> ">View
>>> Larger Map</a></small>
>>>
>>> 3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one
>>>
>>> 4. and, of course, tweet about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
>>> please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility
>>> of
>>> having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
>>>
>>
>> I have a Nokia N900 with a pretty decent built-in GPS device. I would like
>> to contribute to the party. Let me know the "modalities"...
>>
>> When is this planned ? I hope it is right after the conference since
>> I don't want to miss talks...
>>
>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>>> Senior Associate
>>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> --Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul 24 08:46:15 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:16:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007241216.15986.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

you need to sign up at the web page - and the party has already started 
(unlike the fsck.in folks we do not save up our efforts until the conference) - 
I assume you would be visiting the venue once or twice at least - in which 
case you can do some mapping then. The mapping party will go on throughout the 
conference also. There will be a meet up and possibly a sprint - let us see 
how things go.

On Thursday, July 22, 2010 06:35:13 pm Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> Hi Kenneth,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > the openstreetmap uses Python to a large extent in it's tools - geodjango
> > for
> > one, python-mapnik for another, and practically everywhere else.
> > Pythonistas
> > who are also OSM members are planning a mapping party to coincide with
> > the conference. The details are here:
> > 
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Inpycon_2010_Bangalore
> > 
> > In this context, on behalf of the Indian OSM community, I have the
> > following
> > requests:
> > 1. give the above link in a page devoted to satellite events around the
> > conference
> > 2. give our map also in the 'map' link for the venue. The embedded html
> > is here:
> > 
> > <iframe width="425" height="350" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
> > marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"
> > src="
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/export/embed.html?bbox=77.55854,13.02517,77.
> > 57427,13.03711&layer=mapnik "
> > style="border: 1px solid black"></iframe><br /><small><a
> > href="
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.03114&lon=77.566405&zoom=15&layers=B
> > 000FTFT ">View
> > Larger Map</a></small>
> > 
> > 3. if there are going to be stalls - please give us one
> > 
> > 4. and, of course, tweet about it.
> > 
> > as we have a few extra instruments, non-mappers who would like to learn,
> > please book them - first come first served. There is a real possibility
> > of having a sprint on some python related matter of importance to OSM.
> 
> I have a Nokia N900 with a pretty decent built-in GPS device. I would like
> to contribute to the party. Let me know the "modalities"...
> 
> When is this planned ? I hope it is right after the conference since
> I don't want to miss talks...
> 
> > --
> > Regards
> > Kenneth Gonsalves
> > Senior Associate
> > NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> 
> Thanks,

-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul 24 09:02:11 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:32:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] mapping party at the PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <201007241216.15986.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <201007121412.33488.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikVoaLZBuB4JlnS3juNCQ7yjz8cKbQRwbwyOoJE@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007241216.15986.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <201007241232.11683.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:16:15 pm Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> you need to sign up at the web page - and the party has already started 
> (unlike the fsck.in folks we do not save up our efforts until the
> conference) -  I assume you would be visiting the venue once or twice at
> least - in which case you can do some mapping then. The mapping party will
> go on throughout the conference also. There will be a meet up and possibly
> a sprint - let us see how things go.

sorry for the top post - I was under the impression that I was replying 
personally to the OP
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 15:13:52 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:43:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheat sheet
Message-ID: <87lj91owdr.fsf@gmail.com>


Will someone from the list take some time to assemble 3 columns of
"cheat" material that we can use for the cheatshirt? 



-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 16:16:05 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:46:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Manu Ajith <manusajith at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Subject: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
To: bangpypers at python.org


 My self Manu S Ajith, from College of Engineering Chengannur

Few friends and me are planning to attend the pycon 2010, but  accommodation
is a problem.

We have no contacts in Bangalore. Could anyone suggest a place to stay
(hotel/lodge) or give contacts. Our budget is low, ( about 1000 for 4 people
).

---

Manu S Ajith,
Computer Science and Engineering - 2012,
College of Engineering Chengannur,
Alappuzha, Kerala - 689 121.
_______________________________________________
BangPypers mailing list
BangPypers at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers



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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 16:26:02 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:56:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Balachandran Pillai's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:46:05
	+0530")
References: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm not sure what we can do here. Anyone know of any cheap places where
these  chaps could stay? We could send them some phone numbers. 

Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Manu Ajith <manusajith at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM
> Subject: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
> To: bangpypers at python.org
>
>
>  My self Manu S Ajith, from College of Engineering Chengannur
>
> Few friends and me are planning to attend the pycon 2010, but  accommodation
> is a problem.
>
> We have no contacts in Bangalore. Could anyone suggest a place to stay
> (hotel/lodge) or give contacts. Our budget is low, ( about 1000 for 4 people
> ).
>
> ---
>
> Manu S Ajith,
> Computer Science and Engineering - 2012,
> College of Engineering Chengannur,
> Alappuzha, Kerala - 689 121.
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 17:16:25 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:46:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
In-Reply-To: <878w4zvds5.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com>
	<878w4zvds5.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrNEYwSizNpcDQPZkcf-AE=HKFm4DwL=49X5u+@mail.gmail.com>

I think these kind of questions will come up more in numbers
as the conference dates approach nearer. It will be best
if we can find out about nearby hotels and other forms
of accommodation and put it up in the web-site.

--Anand

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm not sure what we can do here. Anyone know of any cheap places where
> these  chaps could stay? We could send them some phone numbers.
>
> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Manu Ajith <manusajith at gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM
> > Subject: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
> > To: bangpypers at python.org
> >
> >
> >  My self Manu S Ajith, from College of Engineering Chengannur
> >
> > Few friends and me are planning to attend the pycon 2010, but
>  accommodation
> > is a problem.
> >
> > We have no contacts in Bangalore. Could anyone suggest a place to stay
> > (hotel/lodge) or give contacts. Our budget is low, ( about 1000 for 4
> people
> > ).
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Manu S Ajith,
> > Computer Science and Engineering - 2012,
> > College of Engineering Chengannur,
> > Alappuzha, Kerala - 689 121.
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 18:31:48 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:01:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrNEYwSizNpcDQPZkcf-AE=HKFm4DwL=49X5u+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com> 
	<878w4zvds5.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinrNEYwSizNpcDQPZkcf-AE=HKFm4DwL=49X5u+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPxpF-VX=Wb24Xbptnj89hUxAFx0tF6P=zLyeN@mail.gmail.com>

hi all ,
          i shall verify with some of the hotels near MSRIT and mail the
costs but i think the hotels near Majestic ( Bangalore main Bus station )
are pretty cheap. I shall verify some of the hotels and provide with the
contacts

regards ,
Anil

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think these kind of questions will come up more in numbers
> as the conference dates approach nearer. It will be best
> if we can find out about nearby hotels and other forms
> of accommodation and put it up in the web-site.
>
> --Anand
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not sure what we can do here. Anyone know of any cheap places where
>> these  chaps could stay? We could send them some phone numbers.
>>
>> Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Manu Ajith <manusajith at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM
>> > Subject: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
>> > To: bangpypers at python.org
>> >
>> >
>> >  My self Manu S Ajith, from College of Engineering Chengannur
>> >
>> > Few friends and me are planning to attend the pycon 2010, but
>>  accommodation
>> > is a problem.
>> >
>> > We have no contacts in Bangalore. Could anyone suggest a place to stay
>> > (hotel/lodge) or give contacts. Our budget is low, ( about 1000 for 4
>> people
>> > ).
>> >
>> > ---
>> >
>> > Manu S Ajith,
>> > Computer Science and Engineering - 2012,
>> > College of Engineering Chengannur,
>> > Alappuzha, Kerala - 689 121.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > BangPypers mailing list
>> > BangPypers at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 19:34:08 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:04:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [BangPypers] Pycon Accommodation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinPxpF-VX=Wb24Xbptnj89hUxAFx0tF6P=zLyeN@mail.gmail.com>
	(anil kumar's message of "Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:01:48 +0530")
References: <AANLkTik8entvWLiHVJUQE_UL=w_kBbB4YPTNksmtXspE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin5FDxiG-BoD+GHBAtfDj1qf6_Xe2YKRD6sPs-W@mail.gmail.com>
	<878w4zvds5.fsf@gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTinPxpF-VX=Wb24Xbptnj89hUxAFx0tF6P=zLyeN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <874ofnv52n.fsf@gmail.com>

anil kumar <anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com> writes:

> hi all ,
>           i shall verify with some of the hotels near MSRIT and mail the
> costs but i think the hotels near Majestic ( Bangalore main Bus station )
> are pretty cheap. I shall verify some of the hotels and provide with the
> contacts

[...]

Thanks Anil!

-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 09:52:05 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:22:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <87lj91owdr.fsf@gmail.com> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of "Sat, 24
	Jul 2010 18:43:52 +0530")
References: <87lj91owdr.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87eiepmkey.fsf@gmail.com>

Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> writes:

> Will someone from the list take some time to assemble 3 columns of
> "cheat" material that we can use for the cheatshirt? 


Anyone? Come on! :)



-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 12:54:30 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:24:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] Using Google Moderators and Wave to make
	talks for PyCon India 2010 more interactive
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=wHFvBHV9WqGs3vPR8N5hVb-RQy25hsYzpGU8=@mail.gmail.com>
	(Pranav Prakash's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:55:20 +0530")
References: <AANLkTi=wHFvBHV9WqGs3vPR8N5hVb-RQy25hsYzpGU8=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <878w4xkxeh.fsf@gmail.com>


I'm moving this discussion to inpycon.

Pranav Prakash <pranny at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking if we can use Google Moderators (
> http://www.google.com/moderator) and google wave to make the talks for PyCon
> India more interactive and lively.
> If we could come up with a plan of usage of these tools, maybe we can inform
> the speakers in advance so they will be more comfortable with it.

I'm not familiar with either but if you think so and can do the
groundwork necessary to help the speakers with it, I can help in any way
you need.

Thanks

-- 

From pranny at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 13:30:34 2010
From: pranny at gmail.com (Pranav Prakash)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Using Google Moderators and Wave to make talks for
	PyCon India 2010 more interactive
In-Reply-To: <878w4xkxeh.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=wHFvBHV9WqGs3vPR8N5hVb-RQy25hsYzpGU8=@mail.gmail.com> 
	<878w4xkxeh.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+UaQg3YKYVfgmh-qmGEzSVfNx=AeG1wSJ7pFb@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, so here is a brief introduction to Google Moderator.

1st way of using Moderator ---

   1. The Admins of InPyCon will create a set of *series of question.* Each
   series will correspond to a talk on PyCon. The Series could be named in a
   formatted manner to help people understand the topic of a series. The Series
   can be created at http://www.google.com/moderator/#13
   2. Once the admins create a series, they will invite the speaker(s) of
   that session to be the owner of the series.
   3. When a series has been created, people can post questions on it. The
   questions can be ranked and starred by other people. So, a question with
   more upvotes means that more people are having difficulty in that particular
   question, so at the end of the discussion (if time permits) those questions
   will be discussed. The good thing is, even if the talk is over, the series
   does not gets over, and the speaker/delegates can continue discussion on a
   particular topic/question afterwards also.
   4. Prerequisite : People trying to access Google Moderator must have a
   valid google account.

I have created a test series for people to get acquainted with the features
and options available. My test series is at
http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1f326

2nd way of using Moderator ---

   1. The admins of InPyCon will create a new "meeting" in Moderator. This
   can be done at http://www.google.com/moderator/#14/e=1f326
   2. The date/time/agenda of the meeting is included in the details of the
   meeting
   3. Optionally, a time can be set for start of questions/answers and a
   deadline after which no further question/answer/discussion is possible.
   4. People will ask questions/ up vote/ down vote a question or answer it
   in usual manner.
   5. I have created a test meeting at
   http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1f326&t=1f326.41

The links to these moderator meetings/series will be shown at the beginning
of the talks, and i think its a good idea to shorten and use a sensible
name. Something like http://bit.ly/ScalableApps, which will redirect users
to the Moderator meeting for building scalable apps on App Engine.

In my view, the second approach seems better.

As a matter of fact, Google Moderator runs on App Engine :-) The actual URL
is moderator.appspot.com



On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 16:24, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm moving this discussion to inpycon.
>
> Pranav Prakash <pranny at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was thinking if we can use Google Moderators (
> > http://www.google.com/moderator) and google wave to make the talks for
> PyCon
> > India more interactive and lively.
> > If we could come up with a plan of usage of these tools, maybe we can
> inform
> > the speakers in advance so they will be more comfortable with it.
>
> I'm not familiar with either but if you think so and can do the
> groundwork necessary to help the speakers with it, I can help in any way
> you need.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>



-- 
*Pranav Prakash*

"This life is more than ordinary"

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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 14:10:37 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:40:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Using Google Moderators and Wave to make talks for
	PyCon India 2010 more interactive
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+UaQg3YKYVfgmh-qmGEzSVfNx=AeG1wSJ7pFb@mail.gmail.com>
	(Pranav Prakash's message of "Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:00:34 +0530")
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	<878w4xkxeh.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+UaQg3YKYVfgmh-qmGEzSVfNx=AeG1wSJ7pFb@mail.gmail.com>
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I think this is a decent idea. We'll have archived feedback as well
which we can use to better next years conference.

Pranav, 
        Since you're already familiar with the setup? Can you go ahead
and make the "questions" for all the talks? I think we'll make a blog
post about this and tweet it to publicise the whole thing. 

Any other opinions/comments?

Thanks



Pranav Prakash <pranny at gmail.com> writes:

> Okay, so here is a brief introduction to Google Moderator.
>
> 1st way of using Moderator ---
>
>    1. The Admins of InPyCon will create a set of *series of question.* Each
>    series will correspond to a talk on PyCon. The Series could be named in a
>    formatted manner to help people understand the topic of a series. The Series
>    can be created at http://www.google.com/moderator/#13
>    2. Once the admins create a series, they will invite the speaker(s) of
>    that session to be the owner of the series.
>    3. When a series has been created, people can post questions on it. The
>    questions can be ranked and starred by other people. So, a question with
>    more upvotes means that more people are having difficulty in that particular
>    question, so at the end of the discussion (if time permits) those questions
>    will be discussed. The good thing is, even if the talk is over, the series
>    does not gets over, and the speaker/delegates can continue discussion on a
>    particular topic/question afterwards also.
>    4. Prerequisite : People trying to access Google Moderator must have a
>    valid google account.
>
> I have created a test series for people to get acquainted with the features
> and options available. My test series is at
> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1f326
>
> 2nd way of using Moderator ---
>
>    1. The admins of InPyCon will create a new "meeting" in Moderator. This
>    can be done at http://www.google.com/moderator/#14/e=1f326
>    2. The date/time/agenda of the meeting is included in the details of the
>    meeting
>    3. Optionally, a time can be set for start of questions/answers and a
>    deadline after which no further question/answer/discussion is possible.
>    4. People will ask questions/ up vote/ down vote a question or answer it
>    in usual manner.
>    5. I have created a test meeting at
>    http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=1f326&t=1f326.41
>
> The links to these moderator meetings/series will be shown at the beginning
> of the talks, and i think its a good idea to shorten and use a sensible
> name. Something like http://bit.ly/ScalableApps, which will redirect users
> to the Moderator meeting for building scalable apps on App Engine.
>
> In my view, the second approach seems better.
>
> As a matter of fact, Google Moderator runs on App Engine :-) The actual URL
> is moderator.appspot.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 16:24, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm moving this discussion to inpycon.
>>
>> Pranav Prakash <pranny at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I was thinking if we can use Google Moderators (
>> > http://www.google.com/moderator) and google wave to make the talks for
>> PyCon
>> > India more interactive and lively.
>> > If we could come up with a plan of usage of these tools, maybe we can
>> inform
>> > the speakers in advance so they will be more comfortable with it.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with either but if you think so and can do the
>> groundwork necessary to help the speakers with it, I can help in any way
>> you need.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>>

-- 

From pranny at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 19:59:21 2010
From: pranny at gmail.com (Pranav Prakash)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:29:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] InPycon google Moderators topic setup
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZXv+na0S9Yoq=dTc7bxAnt0ZX8J0jL5DFCOH2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Noufal,

Sure, i will make question-series and mail them here, after the talks are
finalized. And then we can have the moderators link next to finalised talks
!!

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:30, <inpycon-request at python.org> wrote:

> I think this is a decent idea. We'll have archived feedback as well
> which we can use to better next years conference.
>
> Pranav,
>        Since you're already familiar with the setup? Can you go ahead
> and make the "questions" for all the talks? I think we'll make a blog
> post about this and tweet it to publicise the whole thing.
>
> Any other opinions/comments?
>



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From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 29 13:04:16 2010
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:34:16 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
Message-ID: <115098.81345.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

All,
?? Can we have this for our conference ?
?? Thoughts are welcome.

With Thanks
VIjay


--- On Thu, 29/7/10, kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com> wrote:

From: kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com>
Subject: Conference Content Distribution
To: "VIJAY KUMAR" <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 3:51 PM

Hi Vijay,

?? As discussed with you offline about Python 
Conference session which is being held in Sept 2010, we have some proposal 
to be shared with your team.

?? Our expertise/domain is 
developing multimedia digital content which can be used for offline / 
online e-Learning content. We can extend your conference by providing 
value added service of converting whole session into Synchronized 
Multimedia content ( containing video, slide, image, speaker notes, assessment ) in 
CD/DVD format, which can be useful for attendee for offline reference.


To realize this service we can discuss in details in-person sometime. Please lemme know your thought and views.

Thanks
? Kamal



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From kausikram at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 13:26:52 2010
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:56:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
In-Reply-To: <115098.81345.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <115098.81345.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimvFxF0iSyCuE0JCMVkwKVzEw5kJb=3a1bmNYrp@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> All,
>    Can we have this for our conference ?
>    Thoughts are welcome.


would be best if all the modalities involved are brought forward first,
before we decide on it.

-- 
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 14:04:11 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:34:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
In-Reply-To: <115098.81345.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <115098.81345.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuqqREEEaqxrxzXs2ciZs4VsWEru2rUCubiQ2_@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> All,
>    Can we have this for our conference ?
>    Thoughts are welcome.
>
> With Thanks
> VIjay
>


Ask them to get in touch with Noufal - you can co-ordinate the
emails and act as the mediator. How does that sound ?


>
>
> --- On *Thu, 29/7/10, kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com>
> Subject: Conference Content Distribution
> To: "VIJAY KUMAR" <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 3:51 PM
>
> Hi Vijay,
>
>    As discussed with you offline about Python Conference session which is
> being held in Sept 2010, we have some proposal to be shared with your team.
>
>    Our expertise/domain is developing multimedia digital content which can
> be used for offline / online e-Learning content. We can extend your
> conference by providing value added service of converting whole session into
> Synchronized Multimedia content ( containing video, slide, image, speaker
> notes, assessment ) in CD/DVD format, which can be useful for attendee for
> offline reference.
>
> To realize this service we can discuss in details in-person sometime.
> Please lemme know your thought and views.
>
> Thanks
>   Kamal
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 29 14:12:03 2010
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:42:03 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuqqREEEaqxrxzXs2ciZs4VsWEru2rUCubiQ2_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <783026.7598.qm@web95315.mail.in2.yahoo.com>


I can do it . it not a problem.
But i was looking for thought is it good for our conference? .

with regard'svijay kumar bang


--- On Thu, 29/7/10, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
To: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com, "Mailing list for the PyCon India conference" <inpycon at python.org>
Cc: kbhattad at gmail.com
Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 5:34 PM



On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:34 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:


All,
?? Can we have this for our conference ?
?? Thoughts are welcome.

With Thanks
VIjay


Ask them to get in touch with Noufal - you can co-ordinate the

emails and act as the mediator. How does that sound ?
?




--- On Thu, 29/7/10, kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com> wrote:


From: kamal Bhattad <kbhattad at gmail.com>
Subject: Conference Content Distribution
To: "VIJAY KUMAR" <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com>

Date: Thursday, 29 July, 2010, 3:51 PM

Hi Vijay,

?? As discussed with you offline about Python 
Conference session which is being held in Sept 2010, we have some proposal 
to be shared with your team.

?? Our expertise/domain is 
developing multimedia digital content which can be used for offline / 
online e-Learning content. We can extend your conference by providing 
value added service of converting whole session into Synchronized 
Multimedia content ( containing video, slide, image, speaker notes, assessment ) in 
CD/DVD format, which can be useful for attendee for offline reference.


To realize this service we can discuss in details in-person sometime. Please lemme know your thought and views.

Thanks
? Kamal



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From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 14:23:48 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:53:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have a feeling that the collection of money before the conference is
not going to work well. People active in the usergroups will have no
trouble in paying at the usergroup meetings, but the newbies will have
lot of trouble. This is too-high barrier of entry and I'm worried that
this might put off people. I've seen requests from people from
non-metro cities asking about the payment procedure. I don't think we
can find an easier way to collect money from them.

I suggest we let the offline registrants pay the amount on-spot and
the amount will depend on when they register (early-bird offline
registrants will pay Rs. 250/- on spot). We can keep the option of
collecting money at the usergroup meetings as that helps in reducing
the queue at the registration desk.

What do you think?

Anand

From sree at mahiti.org  Thu Jul 29 14:31:44 2010
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:01:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=hRR4+Zub2efwEg7gU7Zsb4rSB0vWxMDziDso5@mail.gmail.com>

On 29 July 2010 17:53, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:


> I suggest we let the offline registrants pay the amount on-spot and
> the amount will depend on when they register (early-bird offline
> registrants will pay Rs. 250/- on spot). We can keep the option of
> collecting money at the usergroup meetings as that helps in reducing
> the queue at the registration desk.
>

If we put together 5 -10 pay-desks as required, this issue will get resolved
fast and early on day 1.
If this is agreed upon, then there is no need to do additional collection at
user group meeting.  Finance/ accounts wise things will be simple also.
- sree


-- 
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#583, Vyalikaval HBCS Layout,
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul 29 14:42:24 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:12:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday, July 29, 2010 05:53:48 pm Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> I have a feeling that the collection of money before the conference is
> not going to work well. People active in the usergroups will have no
> trouble in paying at the usergroup meetings, but the newbies will have
> lot of trouble. This is too-high barrier of entry and I'm worried that
> this might put off people. I've seen requests from people from
> non-metro cities asking about the payment procedure. I don't think we
> can find an easier way to collect money from them.
> 
> I suggest we let the offline registrants pay the amount on-spot and
> the amount will depend on when they register (early-bird offline
> registrants will pay Rs. 250/- on spot). We can keep the option of
> collecting money at the usergroup meetings as that helps in reducing
> the queue at the registration desk.


they can pay into our bank account either through net banking or by visiting 
the nearest branch of axis bank
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul 29 14:43:21 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:13:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
In-Reply-To: <783026.7598.qm@web95315.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
References: <783026.7598.qm@web95315.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201007291813.21653.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday, July 29, 2010 05:42:03 pm vijay wrote:
>  can do it . it not a problem.
> But i was looking for thought is it good for our conference  .

it may be good - but what do they charge? what license? how do they 
distribute? if they are making money do we get a cut?
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 14:44:48 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:14:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com> 
	<201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPhDEisY886H4OA6V7sM8f5j70QrRnEB4e1bxd@mail.gmail.com>

>
> they can pay into our bank account either through net banking or by visiting
> the nearest branch of axis bank.

After that he has to send a mail with his order id and someone who has
an access to bank account should check that and respond back. I don't
think we have bandwidth to handle that.

Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:07:10 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:37:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPhDEisY886H4OA6V7sM8f5j70QrRnEB4e1bxd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikPhDEisY886H4OA6V7sM8f5j70QrRnEB4e1bxd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=LujQqSgGn9wd_1J2im5gJFiau8kg-027U2joX@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> >
> > they can pay into our bank account either through net banking or by
> visiting
> > the nearest branch of axis bank.
>
> After that he has to send a mail with his order id and someone who has
> an access to bank account should check that and respond back. I don't
> think we have bandwidth to handle that.
>

I favor paying on the day, putting more hands at the job
if required. And keep the payment tariff the same as he would
have paid online.


>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:19:42 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:49:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fw: Conference Content Distribution
In-Reply-To: <201007291813.21653.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:13:21 +0530")
References: <783026.7598.qm@web95315.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
	<201007291813.21653.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <87eiem8lxt.fsf@gmail.com>

Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 05:42:03 pm vijay wrote:
>>  can do it . it not a problem.
>> But i was looking for thought is it good for our conference  .
>
> it may be good - but what do they charge? what license? how do they 
> distribute? if they are making money do we get a cut?

My thoughts exactly. Will this content be viewable with a vanilla
browser/media player? Who owns the copyright? What are the costs like?

If they can provide good recording services, I'm very much +1 for this
since it was a weak point last year. 


-- 

From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:22:37 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:52:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=LujQqSgGn9wd_1J2im5gJFiau8kg-027U2joX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com> 
	<201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTikPhDEisY886H4OA6V7sM8f5j70QrRnEB4e1bxd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTi=LujQqSgGn9wd_1J2im5gJFiau8kg-027U2joX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikEUtN==hAEDsgYmdhW_HwAeqTuRC1un4d0Q-=H@mail.gmail.com>

i agree on spot registrations will encourage many participants and i can set
up 10 -15 volunteers from my college to assist you on that day and
throughout the event.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> >
>> > they can pay into our bank account either through net banking or by
>> visiting
>> > the nearest branch of axis bank.
>>
>> After that he has to send a mail with his order id and someone who has
>> an access to bank account should check that and respond back. I don't
>> think we have bandwidth to handle that.
>>
>
> I favor paying on the day, putting more hands at the job
> if required. And keep the payment tariff the same as he would
> have paid online.
>
>
>>
>> Anand
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 15:28:20 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:58:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=LujQqSgGn9wd_1J2im5gJFiau8kg-027U2joX@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Balachandran Pillai's message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:37:10
	+0530")
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	<201007291812.25100.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> >
>> > they can pay into our bank account either through net banking or by
>> visiting
>> > the nearest branch of axis bank.
>>
>> After that he has to send a mail with his order id and someone who has
>> an access to bank account should check that and respond back. I don't
>> think we have bandwidth to handle that.
>>
>
> I favor paying on the day, putting more hands at the job
> if required. And keep the payment tariff the same as he would
> have paid online.

[...]

Yes. Given the number of offline participants and the mails I'm getting
regarding this, I'm inclined to agree with you.

We'll keep the facility of paying at the user group meetings for people
who *want* to but we'll allow spot payments for people who have
registered early at the early bird rates. Our criterion for deciding who
is an early bird and who is not was based on "Date of payment" but we'll
change it now to "date of registration". 

IS this fine? If so, 
        - we'll amend the details on the ticket page, 
        - send out an email to everyone registered offline
        - Announce on the blog that you can pay on the spot as long as
          you've already registered. 

Fine?


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jul 29 15:34:07 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:04:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <87zkxa76yz.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Thursday, July 29, 2010 06:58:20 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Yes. Given the number of offline participants and the mails I'm getting
> regarding this, I'm inclined to agree with you.
> 
> We'll keep the facility of paying at the user group meetings for people
> who want to but we'll allow spot payments for people who have
> registered early at the early bird rates. Our criterion for deciding who
> is an early bird and who is not was based on "Date of payment" but we'll
> change it now to "date of registration". 
> 
> IS this fine? If so, 
>         - we'll amend the details on the ticket page, 
>         - send out an email to everyone registered offline
>         - Announce on the blog that you can pay on the spot as long as
>           you've already registered. 
> 
> Fine?

no - it defeats the very purpose of online registration - many people simply 
register and do not turn up. If they have to pay, it is more or less 
guarranteed that they turn up. The whole idea of online registration (and 
payment) is that we get some numbers.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 16:00:59 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:30:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007291904.07869.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:04:07 +0530")
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:


[...]


> no - it defeats the very purpose of online registration - many people
> simply register and do not turn up. If they have to pay, it is more or
> less guarranteed that they turn up. The whole idea of online
> registration (and payment) is that we get some numbers.


Given the number of queries I'm getting, people are not okay with this
mode of payment. Many don't have bank accounts/net banking. Many don't
have credit cards. Many don't want to do it online. Most (from the
statistics on the site and the number of mails I'm getting) would much
prefer that we collect money at the venue.

I agree with the number problems that will get introduced because of
lack of payments etc. However, it's not as serious as you make it out to
be. Last year, the number of people who came and the number of people
who registered were not very different. It was okay. The option to pay
online will still be there but let's lower the barrier for people to pay
offline.






-- 

From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 16:17:11 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:47:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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+1

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> > no - it defeats the very purpose of online registration - many people
> > simply register and do not turn up. If they have to pay, it is more or
> > less guarranteed that they turn up. The whole idea of online
> > registration (and payment) is that we get some numbers.
>
>
> Given the number of queries I'm getting, people are not okay with this
> mode of payment. Many don't have bank accounts/net banking. Many don't
> have credit cards. Many don't want to do it online. Most (from the
> statistics on the site and the number of mails I'm getting) would much
> prefer that we collect money at the venue.
>
> I agree with the number problems that will get introduced because of
> lack of payments etc. However, it's not as serious as you make it out to
> be. Last year, the number of people who came and the number of people
> who registered were not very different. It was okay. The option to pay
> online will still be there but let's lower the barrier for people to pay
> offline.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul 30 03:16:38 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:46:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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On Thursday, July 29, 2010 07:30:59 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > no - it defeats the very purpose of online registration - many people
> > simply register and do not turn up. If they have to pay, it is more or
> > less guarranteed that they turn up. The whole idea of online
> > registration (and payment) is that we get some numbers.
> 
> Given the number of queries I'm getting, people are not okay with this
> mode of payment. Many don't have bank accounts/net banking. Many don't
> have credit cards. Many don't want to do it online. Most (from the
> statistics on the site and the number of mails I'm getting) would much
> prefer that we collect money at the venue.

that was before we got the bank account - nothing easier than dropping a 
cheque at the nearest axis bank ATM, or for those without bank accounts, there 
is never much of a Q in Axis bank
> 
> I agree with the number problems that will get introduced because of
> lack of payments etc. However, it's not as serious as you make it out to
> be. Last year, the number of people who came and the number of people
> who registered were not very different.

registrations were around 900 - people who came were around 400. btw, I do not 
see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a link? one of the 
effective ways of marketing is to show how many people have registered and who 
all are attending.

-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 05:40:22 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:10:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007300646.38211.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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2010/7/30 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>:
> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 07:30:59 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > no - it defeats the very purpose of online registration - many people
>> > simply register and do not turn up. If they have to pay, it is more or
>> > less guarranteed that they turn up. The whole idea of online
>> > registration (and payment) is that we get some numbers.
>>
>> Given the number of queries I'm getting, people are not okay with this
>> mode of payment. Many don't have bank accounts/net banking. Many don't
>> have credit cards. Many don't want to do it online. Most (from the
>> statistics on the site and the number of mails I'm getting) would much
>> prefer that we collect money at the venue.
>
> that was before we got the bank account - nothing easier than dropping a
> cheque at the nearest axis bank ATM, or for those without bank accounts, there
> is never much of a Q in Axis bank.
[...]

How do you know who dropped the cheque? What about the book keeping
that we need to do at our end?

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 06:25:50 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:55:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007300646.38211.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:46:38 +0530")
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Thursday, July 29, 2010 07:30:59 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:

[...]

> that was before we got the bank account - nothing easier than dropping
> a cheque at the nearest axis bank ATM, or for those without bank
> accounts, there is never much of a Q in Axis bank.

Not all people seem to think like you. Also, "there's never much of a
Queue at Axis bank" is not really verifiable. The hassle of getting
there might put people off. 

[...]

> registrations were around 900 - people who came were around 400.

I don't recollect the numbers but we didn't have any problems except for
the registration queue which we'll solve this time using raw manpower. 

> btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
> link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
> people have registered and who all are attending.

I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
from their site using a web api and put it on ours though. As of now,
there are 70 registrants who have paid and 174 which are a mix of
offline and invalid.


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul 30 07:16:53 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:46:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:10:22 am Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > that was before we got the bank account - nothing easier than dropping a
> > cheque at the nearest axis bank ATM, or for those without bank accounts,
> > there is never much of a Q in Axis bank.
> 
> [...]
> 
> How do you know who dropped the cheque? What about the book keeping
> that we need to do at our end?

his name will be on the cheque and will appear in the statement. All that is 
needed is a list where the person can fill in details of his payment. And 
another list where we can fill in the payments from the statement.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jul 30 07:17:44 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:47:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:55:50 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
> > link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
> > people have registered and who all are attending.
> 
> I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
> from their site using a web api and put it on ours though.


I thought we had decided to do so
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From kvramaiya at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 07:22:22 2010
From: kvramaiya at gmail.com (Kinjal Ramaiya)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:52:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007301047.45068.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <AANLkTinrPs4zt_Kfar_u4UyzMqSZRnh4VBOCnQyyuzom@mail.gmail.com>
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	<201007301047.45068.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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I agree with Kenneth; people would just register and not turn up for the
event. It beats the Online Payment system.

Can we have some schedule and places set to collect the registration amount?
Something like from 4 PM to 6 PM a set of people would be sitting at the
following places to collect the registration amount:

   - Oasis Mall, koramangala (Mobile Number)
   - College (Mobile number of the person over there)
   - etc ...

Do we have bandwidth for this?


On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:55:50 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > > btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
> > > link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
> > > people have registered and who all are attending.
> >
> > I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
> > from their site using a web api and put it on ours though.
>
>
> I thought we had decided to do so
> --
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From sree at mahiti.org  Fri Jul 30 07:52:53 2010
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:22:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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On 30 July 2010 10:52, Kinjal Ramaiya <kvramaiya at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Kenneth; people would just register and not turn up for the
> event. It beats the Online Payment system.
>

Also what Kennith is mentioning is important from first day catering &
T-shirt/ delegate-kit perspective. I feel, we need atleast 80% of the
participation total confirmed in advance.
Lets keep that in mind while planning.

- sree


> Can we have some schedule and places set to collect the registration
> amount? Something like from 4 PM to 6 PM a set of people would be sitting at
> the following places to collect the registration amount:
>
>    - Oasis Mall, koramangala (Mobile Number)
>    - College (Mobile number of the person over there)
>    - etc ...
>
> Do we have bandwidth for this?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:55:50 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > > btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
>> > > link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
>> > > people have registered and who all are attending.
>> >
>> > I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
>> > from their site using a web api and put it on ours though.
>>
>>
>> I thought we had decided to do so
>> --
>> Regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Senior Associate
>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kinjal Ramaiya
>
> Blog: kavatch.wordpress.com
> xpl0it.wordpress.com
> (M) 7795510072
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/xpl0it
>
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>
>


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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 08:26:15 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:56:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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Kinjal Ramaiya <kvramaiya at gmail.com> writes:

> I agree with Kenneth; people would just register and not turn up for the
> event. It beats the Online Payment system.

Fair enough. We're addressing the reverse problem though. "It's too
tough to register/send money so I won't bother". We're trying to involve
the community and to spread the language. Any trouble *we* can take that
would lower the bar for people registering is a good thing. After all
the hassle will just be for a few hours at the morning of the
conference.

My concerns are that the people manning the desks will miss
talks/keynotes but it seems that this is the only way to go. I had
mentioned this earlier to Renuka Prasad when he talked about the
volunteers from RV but I think I have to retract what I said then.

> Can we have some schedule and places set to collect the registration
> amount?  Something like from 4 PM to 6 PM a set of people would be
> sitting at the following places to collect the registration amount:
>
>    - Oasis Mall, koramangala (Mobile Number)
>    - College (Mobile number of the person over there)
>    - etc ...
>
> Do we have bandwidth for this?

I'd love for this to happen but there are multiple issues. 
 - No people. e.g. There was a user group meeting in ChennaiPy two weeks
   ago or so. I don't think there was a collection done. It's overhead
   and tedious to get this done. 
 - Many of the registrants are not in Bangalore and we have no contacts
   in those areas. e.g. some chaps mailed me from Northern Kerala. There
   are hardly any user groups/meetings there. 
 - Many of the registrants are students and might not be willing to
   travel to the nearest "collection kiosk" to do this. It's a half day
   job in Bangalore to get anywhere.
 - No coordinators. I don't know about you but I'm totally maxed out and
   can't really oversee this. If you or someone else is willing to do
   this and to make sure that it's done properly, you have our support.

In short, your idea is swell but given our resources right now, it's
just short of impossible to implement.

[...]


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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 08:27:15 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:57:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
In-Reply-To: <201007301047.45068.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:47:44 +0530")
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:55:50 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
>> > link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
>> > people have registered and who all are attending.
>> 
>> I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
>> from their site using a web api and put it on ours though.
>
>
> I thought we had decided to do so

Yeah but it slipped my attention and I don't know what the status of it
is.  

-- 

From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 11:04:06 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:34:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website Down
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSYRitD17M6eEvfwhUtv0KQgAtqKCFnm5H9TTm@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The conference website http://in.pycon.org/ seems to be down.
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From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 11:14:30 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:44:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website Down
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The conference website http://in.pycon.org/ seems to be down.
>
>
No, it's not.
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 11:41:32 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:11:32 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website Down
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimSYRitD17M6eEvfwhUtv0KQgAtqKCFnm5H9TTm@mail.gmail.com>
	(Lakshman Prasad's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:34:06 +0530")
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Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> The conference website http://in.pycon.org/ seems to be down.


http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://in.pycon.org says that its
up. IS it still down for you?


-- 

From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 12:19:47 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:49:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website Down
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Sorry for the wrong info.

It seems to be some strange problem on my system, limited to a few domains,
leading me to the confusion.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The conference website http://in.pycon.org/ seems to be down.
>
>
> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://in.pycon.org says that its
> up. IS it still down for you?
>
>
> --
> _______________________________________________
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From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 19:58:54 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:28:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Request for session
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9KMS2Q2xyrPOP4GuE-4xGHMduFDqm7S4QizqF@mail.gmail.com>

I would find a talk on the lines of "Data Structures and Algorithms using
Python" interesting. No body has submitted it so far:
http://in.pycon.org/2010/talks

I am sure there are people on this list that have expertise to do that. I am
just planting an idea and encouraging someone to do that!

The talk could discuss about all aspects of Trees, linked lists, O(n) etc,
as can be reviewed quickly in pseudo code using this book:
http://dotnetslackers.com/Community/files/folders/data-structures-and-algorithms/entry30283.aspx
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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 20:05:55 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:35:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] Request for session
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would find a talk on the lines of "Data Structures and Algorithms using
> Python" interesting. No body has submitted it so far:
> http://in.pycon.org/2010/talks

http://uthcode.googlecode.com/files/pyconindia2009.zip

We had it last year. See if you or any of your friends would like to do it.
Feel free to use the same material.

--
Senthil

From anand.shashwat at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 20:10:53 2010
From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:40:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] Request for session
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I would find a talk on the lines of "Data Structures and Algorithms using
> Python" interesting. No body has submitted it so far:
> http://in.pycon.org/2010/talks


Senthil gave a talk last year on 'DS and Algorithms'. Also my talk covers a
particular Data Structure. It is not general but it is related. I even
tagged it 'data structures, newbie'


>
>
> I am sure there are people on this list that have expertise to do that. I
> am
> just planting an idea and encouraging someone to do that!
>
> The talk could discuss about all aspects of Trees, linked lists, O(n) etc,
> as can be reviewed quickly in pseudo code using this book:
>
> http://dotnetslackers.com/Community/files/folders/data-structures-and-algorithms/entry30283.aspx
> _______________________________________________
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 07:29:09 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:59:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] offline registrations
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kinjal Ramaiya <kvramaiya at gmail.com>wrote:

> I agree with Kenneth; people would just register and not turn up for the
> event. It beats the Online Payment system.
>
> Can we have some schedule and places set to collect the registration
> amount? Something like from 4 PM to 6 PM a set of people would be sitting at
> the following places to collect the registration amount:
>
>    - Oasis Mall, koramangala (Mobile Number)
>    - College (Mobile number of the person over there)
>    - etc ...
>
> Do we have bandwidth for this?


Technically yes, I agree with you and Kenneth but practically no, this is a
 chance we will have to take since a good % of the people seem to prefer to
pay on the spot rather than pay online or pay offline in user groups.

The idea of collecting money in popular hang-outs looks good, but
is impossibly difficult to implement since it needs people, time
and travel. Especially in a city like Bangalore with its traffic and
recent rains, forget about organizing this efficiently. If we were a richer
conference, we could have out sourced this to a third party as
is often the case with these kind of activities. But in this case,
considering the diversity of the attendees, collecting in Bangalore
is not the solution.

My gut feeling is that a good percentage of our audience are again
college students this year, looking at the emails and the talk
submissions, and this is a group which typically prefer carrying
cash and paying on the spot with no quick access to credit cards,
debit cards etc (remember you college days ?). The other group
I am seeing coming next is the young professional with 3-5 yrs
of experience, who should be okay with the online payment,
so I do expect some online payments to happen from them.

The number of people who register should be approximately
near the number of people who come. I don't expect a situation
where 500 people register and only 100 turn up - not with
the kind of response we are getting on the CFP. There is defintely
a buzz.


>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:
>
>> On Friday, July 30, 2010 09:55:50 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > > btw, I do not see any statistics of registrations anywhere. Is there a
>> > > link? one of the effective ways of marketing is to show how many
>> > > people have registered and who all are attending.
>> >
>> > I'm don't think there is a a public page. We can extract the information
>> > from their site using a web api and put it on ours though.
>>
>>
>> I thought we had decided to do so
>> --
>> Regards
>> Kenneth Gonsalves
>> Senior Associate
>> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Kinjal Ramaiya
>
> Blog: kavatch.wordpress.com
> xpl0it.wordpress.com
> (M) 7795510072
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/xpl0it
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 08:01:40 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:31:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
Message-ID: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com>


There's been some vagueness of late regarding the activities going
on. This mail is an attempt to clear my own head as well as to offer a
"state of affairs" so that we're all on the same page. 

We also need a few volunteers for some items. I've noted these in SCREAM
CAPS.

Here you go.

- Sponsorships:
  We have one 3 confirmed sponsorships (excluding the PSF). One from
  ZeOmega, one from IIT-B and one from TANDBERG. The first two are
  platinum and the last one is silver. The first cheque will be dropped
  this weekend. The other two are to be picked up.

- CFP:
  The CFP is closing at the end of this month (i.e. today) and after
  that, judging will start. Anand has made an outline of the judging
  procedure so that all the judges are on the same page. There will be
  blog post and a proper announcement soon. Don't touch that dial!

- T-shirts/Logo:
  The designs are finalised. We NEED A VOLUNTEER to lead the creation of
  the cheatsheet for the T-shirt and SOMEONE TO FIND AND TALK TO A T-SHIRT
  printer. I have some leads but there's work that needs to be done.

- A/V:
  Christabel has recommended an A/V person. I'll contact them and keep
  the list posted. 

- Venue:
  Sree and Anil are on top of this. 

- Bank account and society:
  The bank account is created and functional. The society is fine too. 

- Payment:
  We're allowing people to pay on the spot. This will create some
  inconveniences for us but will be helpful for the bulk of people
  attending. The blog and relevant pages will be edited to reflect
  this.

- Newbie track:
  I timed and managed this badly. GSoC evaluations, holidays at colleges
  etc. Too few proposals in this department and too little time to
  manage them properly. We're cancelling the "formal" newbie (no prizes,
  certificates etc. )track but will try to schedule the simpler talks
  together in a single room for the convenience of the crowd. 

- Swag/Posters/banners:
  Still on disk. Not loaded yet.


That's it. I don't think I've missed anything. Let me know if you have
any questions. 

Let's have a F2F meeting sometime mid-August to discuss the way things
are moving. 

Thanks.

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul 31 08:43:01 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:13:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
In-Reply-To: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007311213.01910.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:31:40 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> - Bank account and society:
>   The bank account is created and functional. The society is fine too. 

do not forget that we need to hold the society AGM during the conference, so 
we need a place for that. Tentatively it is scheduled for 26th afternoon. 
Remember - if we do not hold the AGM, we will no longer have a society or bank 
account! Arrangements for all these things will be done on the IPSS list so as 
not to distract from the main job of holding the conference. Except for 
crucial matters, there will be no cross posts to other lists, so if anyone is 
interested, be sure to be on the IPSS list.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 08:56:13 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:26:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
In-Reply-To: <201007311213.01910.lawgon@au-kbc.org> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:13:01 +0530")
References: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com> <201007311213.01910.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> writes:

> On Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:31:40 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> - Bank account and society:
>>   The bank account is created and functional. The society is fine too. 
>
> do not forget that we need to hold the society AGM during the
> conference, so we need a place for that. Tentatively it is scheduled
> for 26th afternoon.  Remember - if we do not hold the AGM, we will no
> longer have a society or bank account! Arrangements for all these
> things will be done on the IPSS list so as not to distract from the
> main job of holding the conference. Except for crucial matters, there
> will be no cross posts to other lists, so if anyone is interested, be
> sure to be on the IPSS list.

Let's start a thread on that list right away to fix a time then. If we
keep it vague - i.e. "sometime 26th Afternoon", it won't get done.

Can you or someone else take care of the details and make sure it
happens? I don't think I'll have the bandwidth for that.


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat Jul 31 09:04:42 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:34:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
In-Reply-To: <8762zw3zsi.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com> <201007311213.01910.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8762zw3zsi.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007311234.42689.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:26:13 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > do not forget that we need to hold the society AGM during the
> > conference, so we need a place for that. Tentatively it is scheduled
> > for 26th afternoon.  Remember - if we do not hold the AGM, we will no
> > longer have a society or bank account! Arrangements for all these
> > things will be done on the IPSS list so as not to distract from the
> > main job of holding the conference. Except for crucial matters, there
> > will be no cross posts to other lists, so if anyone is interested, be
> > sure to be on the IPSS list.
> 
> Let's start a thread on that list right away to fix a time then. If we
> keep it vague - i.e. "sometime 26th Afternoon", it won't get done.
> 
> Can you or someone else take care of the details and make sure it
> happens? I don't think I'll have the bandwidth for that.

that is what I said above - I am repeating myself to make it clear - all 
society matters will only be discussed on the society list and only society 
members who are *not* directly involved in the conference will be involved  
this activity. No harm in fixing the time - the AGM will be held at 2 pm on 
saturday the 26th September. Formal notice will go to the members at the 
prescribed time. Over to the IPSS list.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 15:23:40 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:53:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website Down
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry for the wrong info.
>
> It seems to be some strange problem on my system, limited to a few domains,
> leading me to the confusion.


If it is a DNS issue, always try with the google open dns servers
(8.8.8.8 & 8.8.4.4) before deciding that the site is down.


>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > The conference website http://in.pycon.org/ seems to be down.
>>
>>
>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://in.pycon.org says that its
>> up. IS it still down for you?
>>
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From karthik.011 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 18:02:23 2010
From: karthik.011 at gmail.com (Karthik B)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:32:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
In-Reply-To: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <87hbjgtcjf.fsf@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> - T-shirts/Logo:
>  The designs are finalised. We NEED A VOLUNTEER to lead the creation of
>  the cheatsheet for the T-shirt and SOMEONE TO FIND AND TALK TO A T-SHIRT
>  printer. I have some leads but there's work that needs to be done.
>
>
I can make the cheat sheet design and give it to u in the format required
for printing, but i wont be able to help in finding a printer.
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From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 18:47:57 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:17:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
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if i can get a rough number of shirts then i can inquire with the guys who
do it for our college fest/conferences .


On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> - T-shirts/Logo:
>>  The designs are finalised. We NEED A VOLUNTEER to lead the creation of
>>  the cheatsheet for the T-shirt and SOMEONE TO FIND AND TALK TO A T-SHIRT
>>  printer. I have some leads but there's work that needs to be done.
>>
>>
> I can make the cheat sheet design and give it to u in the format required
> for printing, but i wont be able to help in finding a printer.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 18:57:01 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:27:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Summary of status and tying up some loose ends
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikny3Rqa8YV6MGipYCHtNpJma-cARDgPBvP2R16@mail.gmail.com>
	(Karthik B.'s message of "Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:32:23 +0530")
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Karthik B <karthik.011 at gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> - T-shirts/Logo:
>>  The designs are finalised. We NEED A VOLUNTEER to lead the creation of
>>  the cheatsheet for the T-shirt and SOMEONE TO FIND AND TALK TO A T-SHIRT
>>  printer. I have some leads but there's work that needs to be done.
>>
>>
> I can make the cheat sheet design and give it to u in the format required
> for printing, but i wont be able to help in finding a printer.
[...]



There's no real issue with design. It's just 3 upside down columns of
text. The content is what's important. 


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