From vid at svaksha.com  Sun May 24 09:00:24 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:30:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] voting and logo submission dates [was] PyCon India logo
	contest!
Message-ID: <12470af00905240000k3e3f22d0lbebc13348b20a140@mail.gmail.com>

...moving the discussion to inpycon list.

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 19:55, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On second thought, forget it. I'll probably mess it up.
> We'll anyway have to finally decide. If there's any skewing, we can
> take it up then.

This point was raised earlier on bangpypers list but there was no
clear answer so i'll raise it again.

Is there a cut off date for submissions ? I have voted but folks have
been submitting logos as of today so how does one account for a change
of mind wrt an earlier vote (considering that only one vote per person
is allowed)??

While on the subject, how do we ensure ballot stuffing (for lack of a
better term :)) does not take place? Will restricting voting to
registered wiki users work or is there another way?

-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 24 10:26:11 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:56:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] voting and logo submission dates [was] PyCon India
	logo contest!
In-Reply-To: <12470af00905240000k3e3f22d0lbebc13348b20a140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <12470af00905240000k3e3f22d0lbebc13348b20a140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905240126g575a5b7ai68874c63fad082d0@mail.gmail.com>

Lets put a deadline. the 'contest' has been going on for a week now. I
think this Tuesday (26/May) is a decent deadline.

After that, We'll get some official votes for the designs. The current
votes are skewed since voting started before all the designs were up.

Thanks

-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 24 14:05:45 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:35:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,
   We have a decent number of logos to choose from now.

   I think it would be okay to close the contest on Tuesday (26/May).
After that, we can start voting.

   Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?


Thanks

-- 
~noufal

From anandology at gmail.com  Sun May 24 16:43:04 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:13:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> Hello everyone,
> ? We have a decent number of logos to choose from now.
>
> ? I think it would be okay to close the contest on Tuesday (26/May).
> After that, we can start voting.

I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start right now.

> ? Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
> lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
> people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?

How about using slinkset for voting?
I created a a site and uploaded some logos.

http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/

Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.

Anand

From croozeus at yahoo.com  Sun May 24 16:49:15 2009
From: croozeus at yahoo.com (croozeus at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:49:15 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
Message-ID: <20090524145708.58472D501@mail.python.org>

I second Anand's suggestion about voting on slinkset. 

However, I feel voting should start once the contest ends- one should get to see all entries before voting for his favourite- fair.

Cheers,
--Pankaj who believes that Bangalore can now win the final

-----Original Message-----
From: Anand Chitipothu
Sent:  24/05/2009 20:13:04
Subject:  Re: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision

2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> Hello everyone,
> ? We have a decent number of logos to choose from now.
>
> ? I think it would be okay to close the contest on Tuesday (26/May).
> After that, we can start voting.

I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start right now.

> ? Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
> lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
> people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?

How about using slinkset for voting?
I created a a site and uploaded some logos.

http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/

Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.

Anand
_______________________________________________
Inpycon mailing list
Inpycon at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sun May 24 19:28:51 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:58:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090524172851.GB6504@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 08:13:04PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:

> 2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> 
> I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start right now.

+1 atleast till Thursday.

> 
> > ? Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
> > lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
> > people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?
> 
> How about using slinkset for voting?

> I created a a site and uploaded some logos.
> 
> http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/
> 
> Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
> I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.

I dont like to create another account in yet another site to do a
voting, Anand. It puts me off. With Anomymous voting, if you mean I
can vote without registering it okay; but how will you track how many
diggs I did?

While the site and digging votes is good. Why dont we go for a simple
measure of writing our usernames as the votes in teh Python Wiki
itself.

* I see another advantage in the Python Wiki that those logos will be
  preserved and will give a sense of active partipation that went on,
  when someone stumbles upon it in the future.




From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 06:06:50 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:36:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <20090524172851.GB6504@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524172851.GB6504@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905242106r200e49f6x6c3709852db67a31@mail.gmail.com>

I prefer voting on the wiki. If someone is willing to upload all the
images, create an account and setup a poll, I will vote on another
site but I'm not going to take any extra efforts to do so.

The wiki should (at the end of the business) serve as a record of
everything that went on. Because of this, I'd like everything on the
wiki.


On 5/24/09, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 08:13:04PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>
>> 2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>
>> I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start right
>> now.
>
> +1 atleast till Thursday.
>
>>
>> > ? Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
>> > lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
>> > people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?
>>
>> How about using slinkset for voting?
>
>> I created a a site and uploaded some logos.
>>
>> http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/
>>
>> Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
>> I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.
>
> I dont like to create another account in yet another site to do a
> voting, Anand. It puts me off. With Anomymous voting, if you mean I
> can vote without registering it okay; but how will you track how many
> diggs I did?
>
> While the site and digging votes is good. Why dont we go for a simple
> measure of writing our usernames as the votes in teh Python Wiki
> itself.
>
> * I see another advantage in the Python Wiki that those logos will be
>   preserved and will give a sense of active partipation that went on,
>   when someone stumbles upon it in the future.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 06:08:22 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:38:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905242106r200e49f6x6c3709852db67a31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>

I don't want to keep the polling open till Thursday. It's already been
a week. We've got a decent number of good Logos and can close the poll
tomorrow.

Voting should start *after* the candidates are all in otherwise,
things will get skewed.


On 5/25/09, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> I prefer voting on the wiki. If someone is willing to upload all the
> images, create an account and setup a poll, I will vote on another
> site but I'm not going to take any extra efforts to do so.
>
> The wiki should (at the end of the business) serve as a record of
> everything that went on. Because of this, I'd like everything on the
> wiki.
>
>
> On 5/24/09, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 08:13:04PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start
>>> right
>>> now.
>>
>> +1 atleast till Thursday.
>>
>>>
>>> > ? Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
>>> > lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
>>> > people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?
>>>
>>> How about using slinkset for voting?
>>
>>> I created a a site and uploaded some logos.
>>>
>>> http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/
>>>
>>> Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
>>> I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.
>>
>> I dont like to create another account in yet another site to do a
>> voting, Anand. It puts me off. With Anomymous voting, if you mean I
>> can vote without registering it okay; but how will you track how many
>> diggs I did?
>>
>> While the site and digging votes is good. Why dont we go for a simple
>> measure of writing our usernames as the votes in teh Python Wiki
>> itself.
>>
>> * I see another advantage in the Python Wiki that those logos will be
>>   preserved and will give a sense of active partipation that went on,
>>   when someone stumbles upon it in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
>


-- 
~noufal

From croozeus at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 06:13:10 2009
From: croozeus at yahoo.com (Pankaj Nathani)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:13:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905240743x1848ee62wf97fc62cc6f45dd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524172851.GB6504@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905242106r200e49f6x6c3709852db67a31@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree, we should choose on a logo fast and move ahead to discuss other things,

If half as much time goes into organizing as goes into developing and choosing a logo this is going to be one heck of a conference  --SteveHolden

Cheers,
--Pankaj, who has already voted


________________________________
From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
To: Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>
Cc: inpycon at python.org
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:38:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision

I don't want to keep the polling open till Thursday. It's already been
a week. We've got a decent number of good Logos and can close the poll
tomorrow.

Voting should start *after* the candidates are all in otherwise,
things will get skewed.


On 5/25/09, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> I prefer voting on the wiki. If someone is willing to upload all the
> images, create an account and setup a poll, I will vote on another
> site but I'm not going to take any extra efforts to do so.
>
> The wiki should (at the end of the business) serve as a record of
> everything that went on. Because of this, I'd like everything on the
> wiki.
>
>
> On 5/24/09, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 08:13:04PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/5/24 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I think we should keep it open for some more time. voting can start
>>> right
>>> now.
>>
>> +1 atleast till Thursday.
>>
>>>
>>> >   Since the voting started before the entries were all in, there's a
>>> > lot of noise. I propose that we cancel the existing votes and ask
>>> > people to vote again. Is everyone okay with that?
>>>
>>> How about using slinkset for voting?
>>
>>> I created a a site and uploaded some logos.
>>>
>>> http://pyconindia.slinkset.com/
>>>
>>> Anonymous voting is can be enabled if required.
>>> I can write a simple webapp to upload images to slinkset automatically.
>>
>> I dont like to create another account in yet another site to do a
>> voting, Anand. It puts me off. With Anomymous voting, if you mean I
>> can vote without registering it okay; but how will you track how many
>> diggs I did?
>>
>> While the site and digging votes is good. Why dont we go for a simple
>> measure of writing our usernames as the votes in teh Python Wiki
>> itself.
>>
>> * I see another advantage in the Python Wiki that those logos will be
>>   preserved and will give a sense of active partipation that went on,
>>   when someone stumbles upon it in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
>


-- 
~noufal
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May 25 15:45:01 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:15:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <50883.198.182.52.26.1243253111.squirrel@mail.hcoop.net>
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 3:44 pm, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > Click here => http://in.pycon.org.
> >
> > As I said, it took barely half an hour for this to be done
> > after I send the email....
> >
> > I have requested David Goodger to hold on announcement to any list
> > till we have some more stuff here.
>
> Good going. Let's all take it on ourselves to evaluate Kenneth's
> application today and come back tomorrow with how it is. If it can handle
>  - Registration
>  - atleast basic CMS
> I think it should be enough and Anand C. can put it on the site and we're
> ready to go.
>
> If it's got some gaps, we'll make the site MoinMoin + Kenneth's app. That
> should be enough to start on the publicity.
>
> Comments?
>
>
>


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From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:59:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Test Email, Ignore <eom>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:27:46 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:57:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905250645k3a17934fsff9d00c2c01b8de0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
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Hello everyone,
  We have two sites now. One of the them is in.pycon.org which is
currently a placeholder and will become our 'official' site.

  The second is a registration application used by Kenneth for an
earlier conference. It's got facilities to take care of some aspects
of a conference. A test installation is running on
http://www.greenchilly.in/. Please take a look and send in feedback.
If anyone is volunteering to admin the site during these months,
please register and mail back and we can add admin privileges for you
to check out.

  Once the details of whether the application is sufficient or whether
we need a CMS is decided, we'll put everything together and start on
the publicity.

  It came up on multiple occassions that a simple way to take care of
organising content on the site is to have is as a wiki. what's the
opinion on that?

Thanks.

-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 17:11:48 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:41:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I've reset the votes to zero. Entries stop tomorrow and people can vote.

-- 
~noufal

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:23:21 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:53:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905250727m403d2ec2saa848e8544673014@mail.gmail.com>
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	<8548c5f30905250248q391a1841n1905402b87f1b5ec@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>  We have two sites now. One of the them is in.pycon.org which is
> currently a placeholder and will become our 'official' site.
>
>  The second is a registration application used by Kenneth for an
> earlier conference. It's got facilities to take care of some aspects
> of a conference. A test installation is running on
> http://www.greenchilly.in/. Please take a look and send in feedback.
> If anyone is volunteering to admin the site during these months,
> please register and mail back and we can add admin privileges for you
> to check out.


 I can admin the site. I have used greenchilly.in and find the registration
system decent to start with.

>
>
>  Once the details of whether the application is sufficient or whether
> we need a CMS is decided, we'll put everything together and start on
> the publicity.


 What features so we need in the CMS ? I have a simple CMS written on top of
cherrypy which we use for internal use, basically something tht lets you
create pages witht a wysiswyg editor and mount the pages on required url. If
you guys want additional features I can spare a developer from my team for 2
weeks or so to work on adding feature...


>
>
>  It came up on multiple occassions that a simple way to take care of
> organising content on the site is to have is as a wiki. what's the
> opinion on that?


What I have noticed after organizing couple of events, is that look and feel
of the site matters and wikis just dont provide you the richness that you
need to attract audience (no falmes please). Instead of a wiki I will prefer
static HTMl pages with a decent look and feel.

regards
Vivek

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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:34:15 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:04:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> ?What features so we need in the CMS ? I have a simple CMS written on top of
> cherrypy which we use for internal use, basically something tht lets you
> create pages witht a wysiswyg editor and mount the pages on required url. If
> you guys want additional features I can spare a developer from my team for 2
> weeks or so to work on adding feature...

I see no need to spend time and energy building/customising one. There
are quite a few free python based CMSes out there that we can use
(Plone is an example).

> What I have noticed after organizing couple of events, is that look and feel
> of the site matters and wikis just dont provide you the richness that you
> need to attract audience (no falmes please). Instead of a wiki I will prefer
> static HTMl pages with a decent look and feel.

http://us.pycon.org/2009/about/ - Custom app (AFAIK)
http://www.europython.eu/ - Moin
http://www.pyconuk.org/ - HTML + Moin
http://apac.pycon.org/ - Plone
http://liwo.polsl.pl/pycon-pl - Plone

I couldn't figure out some of the other PyCon sites.

We should have *a* wiki on the site. Whether it should be only wiki is
debatable and the points you've raised are valid.


-- 
~noufal

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:44:38 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:14:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [..]
> >  What features so we need in the CMS ? I have a simple CMS written on top
> of
> > cherrypy which we use for internal use, basically something tht lets you
> > create pages witht a wysiswyg editor and mount the pages on required url.
> If
> > you guys want additional features I can spare a developer from my team
> for 2
> > weeks or so to work on adding feature...
>
> I see no need to spend time and energy building/customising one. There
> are quite a few free python based CMSes out there that we can use
> (Plone is an example).


Why to deploy an elephant like plone when light weight CMS like pylucid and
skeletonz are available ? My experience is a custom app is the best suited
for most conferences.

regards
Vivek

-- 
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:46:25 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:16:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Why to deploy an elephant like plone when light weight CMS like pylucid and
> skeletonz are available ? My experience is a custom app is the best suited
> for most conferences.

I wasn't aware of those. Custom apps might be nice but I prefer to
keep that as a last resort.



-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:48:37 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:18:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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BTW, since you've played with it, does Greenchilly.in have all that we
might need for this event? If so, maybe we should just use that alone.

A nice front page, an easy way to create static pages with content,
per session pages. I imagine we'll need to upload content like
slides/code/videos too in the future.



-- 
~noufal

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:57:39 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:27:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW, since you've played with it, does Greenchilly.in have all that we
> might need for this event? If so, maybe we should just use that alone.
>
> A nice front page, an easy way to create static pages with content,
> per session pages. I imagine we'll need to upload content like
> slides/code/videos too in the future.


Dont think so, but Kenneth could correct me on this. I had used it in the
era, when the app was launched and lawgon used to hang out at #linux-india
but those were old days. I think the project was hosted on github but I cant
recall the url.

regards
Vivek

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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:57:53 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:27:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, since you've played with it, does Greenchilly.in have all that we
> might need for this event? If so, maybe we should just use that alone.

Vivek, if you are planning to take the administration of the website.
Here are few points we had already discussed.

* Please take KG's application forward. Please do not research for a
new solution.
* We can get help from web designer friends (if you already are not one).
* oswd can be used.

But as Noufal pointed out, things are going to move pretty quickly in
few weeks. So you might want to jump in as soon as possible..

-- 
-- 
Senthil

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Mon May 25 20:01:59 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:31:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> > BTW, since you've played with it, does Greenchilly.in have all that we
> > might need for this event? If so, maybe we should just use that alone.
>
> Vivek, if you are planning to take the administration of the website.
> Here are few points we had already discussed.
>
> * Please take KG's application forward. Please do not research for a
> new solution.


 Dont think that is possibel. Kenneth apps are religiously based on django
and I wont touch djnago with a barge pole... So looks like someone else has
to ttake on the lead.

regards
Vivek

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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon May 25 20:40:11 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:10:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
Message-ID: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>

This is a new mailing list and I thought I would start this
introduction thread, so that we can know each other well, especially
the ones we have not met yet.

1) What is my full name?
O.R. Senthil Kumaran

2) Where am I located?
Bangalore

3) Would I be attending PyCon India 2009.
Very Much.

4) Which areas in Python interests you.

a) Python language design.
b) Python Standard Library.
c) Django.
d) Python for students/kids like Guido van robot, Rur-ple.
e) Pygame.
f) Beginner friendliness


5) Work and Projects:

I work for Akamai, Bangalore. I use python at work too.

Projects:
http://uthcode.sarovar.org
http://uthcode.googlecode.com

More recently, I am spending a good amount of time at bugs.python.org
fixing Internet related bugs in the standard library.

6) How can I help with Pycon India 2009.

* Help in organizing; physically and over lists.
* Spread the word about PyCon India 2009.


Others, if you could reply to this thread with a short introduction,
that would be very nice.
You can use the same format or your own free format text. :)

If you choose to use the outline, here is it:

1) What is my name?
2) Where am I located?
3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?
4) Which areas in Python interests you.
5) Work and Projects


Thanks,
Senthil

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 25 20:54:39 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:24:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
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Nice thread

1) What is my name?
Noufal Ibrahim (I have an alter ego - Foulan Mihrabi but he's not on
the net too much)

2) Where am I located?
Bangalore, India (Khmar on freenode on #emacs, #python)

3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?
Hell yeah!

4) Which areas in Python interests you.
0. Web applications/frameworks
1. PyGame
2. Mathematical stuff

5) Work and Projects
 - I work full time for the EDA firm Synopsys. My work is a mix of
perl and python (and php and shell but less than the other two).
 - I have a few projects which I don't *actively* work on these days
(http://nibrahim.net.in/software)
 - I'm spending my dwindling free hours on a retro game which I hope
to release sometime this year (watch this space!)
 - I'm an avid Emacs user and spend a lot of time customising my
setup. I have a small major mode I used at my previous workplace
listed on my software page.
 - I am an amateur website designer and have professionally developed
a few websites for commercial clients.

6) How I can help with PyCon 2009?
 - I'm sort of leading the organisation of the event.
 - I'm in Bangalore and since the event is going to be here, I'm
interested in leading all aspects of it and pitching in with field
work when necessary.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 07:51:11 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:21:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
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References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905261121.11366.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:10:11 Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> 1) What is my name?

Kenneth Gonsalves
> 2) Where am I located?

Ooty
> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?

Yes
> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.

Am an end user of python. I use django for web applications and python for 
sysadmin and other scripting work
> 5) Work and Projects

I work with NRC-FOSS (in sig) and run several websites. My main interest in 
life is golf - and am busy preaching the benefits of open source and python in 
the Indian golfing community.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 08:16:52 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:46:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
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Okay. Entries are over. I'm really impressed with the participation
and quality.

Please vote. You can write your name below the logo of your choice.
Feel free to vote for multiple logos. We'll stop the voting in 2 or 3
days and then make that our 'official' logo.

Thanks.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 07:38:27 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:08:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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Message-ID: <200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Monday 25 May 2009 23:31:59 Vivek Khurana wrote:
> > Vivek, if you are planning to take the administration of the website.
> > Here are few points we had already discussed.
> >
> > * Please take KG's application forward. Please do not research for a
> > new solution.
>
> ?Dont think that is possibel. Kenneth apps are religiously based on django
> and I wont touch djnago with a barge pole... So looks like someone else has
> to ttake on the lead.

I and Thejaswi are there to develop the app. For the time being I am adding 
the facility to put up news/announcements/articles which would suffice for the 
time being. I will also link in a gallery app for photos. Since I have made 
extensive changes, I will be resetting the database so you people will have to 
log in again.

Question: since we are charging a delegate fee, how do we collect this? If 
someone is willing to set up a paypal account for the conference, that would 
be the most convenient way and the whole thing can be done online.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Tue May 26 08:39:56 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:09:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
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	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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> Question: since we are charging a delegate fee, how do we collect this? If
> someone is willing to set up a paypal account for the conference, that would
> be the most convenient way and the whole thing can be done online.

We are going to collect the fee only at the conference.

We should email an image with a registration code to the people who
register online and they can show the printed copy of that image at
the time of registration to get the early-registration discount. Or we
can just ask them show some identity card to verify their name at the
time of registration.

foss.in uses the first method.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 08:36:05 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:06:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<7c42eba10905251057n4a3b0467m21b97c204cd59fbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905251101o4b0052ean9cafad58bd44bad5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905252336m14bec9f7s9b54f8cc76c9ba48@mail.gmail.com>

I am looking at the site now and will send you my comments later
during the day.

There's another thing that's nagging me. We need one person to take
complete ownership of the website. Content, software etc. It's a
little premature to decide right now but once we agree of the
specifics, we absolutely need such a person. If there are any
enthusiastic folks outside of Bangalore who want to pitch this, I
think this is a good opportunity. I hope to finalise on the website
business by the end of the week.

Also, are there any people around with good CSS/design sk1llZ? It
*might* come in handy soon. :)


-- 
~noufal

From madhubalav at infotechsw.com  Tue May 26 08:23:30 2009
From: madhubalav at infotechsw.com (Madhubala)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:53:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <200905261121.11366.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261121.11366.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <000f01c9ddca$7cee8af0$76cba0d0$@com>

> 1) What is my name?

 Madhubala Vasireddy
> 2) Where am I located?

 Hyderabad
> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?

Yes
> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.
Python standard library/supported libraries , language simplicity

> 5) Work and Projects

I work with Infotech Enterprises and started working using python since
2004. At Infotech we use python  for the development of customer specific
desktop tools. 

-- 
regards ,
Madhubala,
Infotech Enterprises Ltd,
Hyderabad.


From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 08:51:28 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:21:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905252339y692a70c0rb9dacd69cb5f85be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905252339y692a70c0rb9dacd69cb5f85be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905261221.28767.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:09:56 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > Question: since we are charging a delegate fee, how do we collect this?
> > If someone is willing to set up a paypal account for the conference, that
> > would be the most convenient way and the whole thing can be done online.
>
> We are going to collect the fee only at the conference.
>
> We should email an image with a registration code to the people who
> register online and they can show the printed copy of that image at
> the time of registration to get the early-registration discount. Or we
> can just ask them show some identity card to verify their name at the
> time of registration.
>
> foss.in uses the first method.

second method makes more sense. In all my visits to linux-bangalore, I never 
even once printed out the image (I have never had a printer attached to my 
machine). I will add a field for date of registration to the registration thing 
and that should suffice.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Tue May 26 08:56:10 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:26:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905252356m3770826dqe4c0e664353c372d@mail.gmail.com>

> 1) What is my name?

Anand Chitipothu

> 2) Where am I located?

Bangalore

> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?

Yes.

> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.

import this

> 5) Work and Projects

I work for http://openlibary.org as web programmer. It is completely
written in Python.

Projects: http://github.com/anandology

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue May 26 09:01:57 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:31:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <200905261221.28767.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905252339y692a70c0rb9dacd69cb5f85be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261221.28767.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905260001i6979c484m1b072133d722f7d2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:09:56 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > > Question: since we are charging a delegate fee, how do we collect this?
> > > If someone is willing to set up a paypal account for the conference,
> that
> > > would be the most convenient way and the whole thing can be done
> online.
> >
> > We are going to collect the fee only at the conference.
> >
> > We should email an image with a registration code to the people who
> > register online and they can show the printed copy of that image at
> > the time of registration to get the early-registration discount. Or we
> > can just ask them show some identity card to verify their name at the
> > time of registration.
> >
> > foss.in uses the first method.
>
> second method makes more sense. In all my visits to linux-bangalore, I
> never
> even once printed out the image (I have never had a printer attached to my
> machine). I will add a field for date of registration to the registration
> thing
> and that should suffice.


  +1 to second method.

  I wouldn't expect Kenneth to use any thing that is connected to FOSS.in
  anyway ;)


>
>
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Associate
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 09:05:26 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:35:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905260001i6979c484m1b072133d722f7d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905252339y692a70c0rb9dacd69cb5f85be@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261221.28767.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30905260001i6979c484m1b072133d722f7d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905260005w2664ac2dgc195687d6c95f140@mail.gmail.com>

One thing that still bothers me is how we integrate in.pycon.org and
grennchillies.in. Are we going to move the application over once it
has all the necessary features or do some DNS trick?

-- 
~noufal

From ruchiryshukla at gmail.com  Tue May 26 09:06:37 2009
From: ruchiryshukla at gmail.com (Ruchir Shukla)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:36:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a5d829d90905260006g72b8a156kb005d2263757c840@mail.gmail.com>

1) What is my full name?
> Ruchir Shukla
>
> 2) Where am I located?
> Ahmedabad
>
> 3) Would I be attending PyCon India 2009.
> yes sure.
>
> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.
>      b) Python Standard Library.


> 5) Work and Projects:

           I am Openerp Developer and also customizing the Openerp modules.
integration with e-commerce  magento

>
> 6) How can I help with Pycon India 2009.
>    I wanted to help in Pycon but i am too far. so may be can not
>

-- 
------------------------------
Thanking You,
Ruchir Shukla
Application Engineer
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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue May 26 09:08:29 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:38:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905260005w2664ac2dgc195687d6c95f140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org> 
	<41139fcb0905252339y692a70c0rb9dacd69cb5f85be@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905261221.28767.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30905260001i6979c484m1b072133d722f7d2@mail.gmail.com> 
	<9963e56e0905260005w2664ac2dgc195687d6c95f140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905260008i4622aa8dia23403e6b9cdac7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/26 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> One thing that still bothers me is how we integrate in.pycon.org and
> grennchillies.in. Are we going to move the application over once it
> has all the necessary features or do some DNS trick?

in.pycon.org is CNAME to pycon.anandology.com
pycon.anandology.com right now points to my server. I can change it to
point to the server that is hosting greenchillies.in once the
application is ready.

I'm fine with hosting the application on my server too.

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 09:12:10 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:42:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905260005w2664ac2dgc195687d6c95f140@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<8548c5f30905260001i6979c484m1b072133d722f7d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260005w2664ac2dgc195687d6c95f140@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905261242.11040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 12:35:26 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> One thing that still bothers me is how we integrate in.pycon.org and
> grennchillies.in. Are we going to move the application over once it
> has all the necessary features or do some DNS trick?

just point in.pycon.org to my ip
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue May 26 09:16:11 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:46:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905252356m3770826dqe4c0e664353c372d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905252356m3770826dqe4c0e664353c372d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905260016m307567c6ma77e32051b85e7c@mail.gmail.com>

> 1) What is my name?

Anand Balachandran Pillai/Anand Pillai

> 2) Where am I located?

Bangalore

> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?

You gotta be kidding!
I will be there, with family -)

> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.

 Too numerous to mention. However, specifically
web crawling, data mining, document processing
and XML/Semantic Web stuff.

Also, regular contributor to ASPN Python Cookbook.
- Cooking Python recipes is fun!

> 5) Work and Projects

HarvestMan: http://harvestmanontheweb.com
EIAO: http://www.eiao.net
Egovmon: http://egovmon.no


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-Anand
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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Tue May 26 10:41:43 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:11:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905252336m14bec9f7s9b54f8cc76c9ba48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<7c42eba10905251057n4a3b0467m21b97c204cd59fbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905251101o4b0052ean9cafad58bd44bad5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am looking at the site now and will send you my comments later
> during the day.
>
> There's another thing that's nagging me. We need one person to take
> complete ownership of the website. Content, software etc. It's a
> little premature to decide right now but once we agree of the
> specifics, we absolutely need such a person. If there are any
> enthusiastic folks outside of Bangalore who want to pitch this, I
> think this is a good opportunity. I hope to finalise on the website
> business by the end of the week.
>
> Also, are there any people around with good CSS/design sk1llZ? It
> *might* come in handy soon. :)


 I am willing to take on the responsibility for the website, software etc.
But the only condition is that I will use what I am comfortable with. I have
a css guy who can ensure asthetics and  cross browser compatibility. I will
need about 15 days to setup the whole thing and can host the site on my
server too.
 I feel that one persone being responsible for the content might not be a
good idea. We should have pne guy responsible for one section of the site
formula as it will help us brain storm the content and ideas.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 10:52:53 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:22:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<7c42eba10905251057n4a3b0467m21b97c204cd59fbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905251101o4b0052ean9cafad58bd44bad5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905252336m14bec9f7s9b54f8cc76c9ba48@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905260152t3c2b4e9cr8ae57470670026f@mail.gmail.com>

I think we can decide this better after we all look at Kenneth's
application properly. A 15 day gap is rather high. If we can use the
existing app and perhaps just add missing features, it would be better
since we can get something up and running quickly.

However, from the CSS side, if you can help out, it would be very helpful.





-- 
~noufal

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Tue May 26 10:54:26 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:24:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<7c42eba10905251057n4a3b0467m21b97c204cd59fbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905251101o4b0052ean9cafad58bd44bad5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905261108.28082.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905252336m14bec9f7s9b54f8cc76c9ba48@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00905260154n27a9d6dco638ef6f61e8f6799@mail.gmail.com>

15 days is too much. With some css stuff, which we can take either from
styleshout or oswd, we should be ready with the site in a day or two. I vote
that we use Kenneth's app. No point in reinventing the wheel....

We need a working site before we talk to sponsors.....

Ramdas

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking at the site now and will send you my comments later
>> during the day.
>>
>> There's another thing that's nagging me. We need one person to take
>> complete ownership of the website. Content, software etc. It's a
>> little premature to decide right now but once we agree of the
>> specifics, we absolutely need such a person. If there are any
>> enthusiastic folks outside of Bangalore who want to pitch this, I
>> think this is a good opportunity. I hope to finalise on the website
>> business by the end of the week.
>>
>> Also, are there any people around with good CSS/design sk1llZ? It
>> *might* come in handy soon. :)
>
>
>  I am willing to take on the responsibility for the website, software etc.
> But the only condition is that I will use what I am comfortable with. I have
> a css guy who can ensure asthetics and  cross browser compatibility. I will
> need about 15 days to setup the whole thing and can host the site on my
> server too.
>  I feel that one persone being responsible for the content might not be a
> good idea. We should have pne guy responsible for one section of the site
> formula as it will help us brain storm the content and ideas.
>
> regards
> Vivek
>
> --
> The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


-- 
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+91 9342 583 065
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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Tue May 26 11:10:06 2009
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00905260154n27a9d6dco638ef6f61e8f6799@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<7c42eba10905251057n4a3b0467m21b97c204cd59fbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<91bea30d0905251101o4b0052ean9cafad58bd44bad5@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> 15 days is too much. With some css stuff, which we can take either from
> styleshout or oswd, we should be ready with the site in a day or two. I vote
> that we use Kenneth's app. No point in reinventing the wheel....


Sure if you can get it going in one day nothing like it. Infact you should
document this, how python made you save time... it will be an awesome case
study...  :)

regards
Vivek

-- 
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 11:19:51 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:49:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00905260154n27a9d6dco638ef6f61e8f6799@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00905260154n27a9d6dco638ef6f61e8f6799@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905261449.51261.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 14:24:26 Ramdas S wrote:
> 15 days is too much. With some css stuff, which we can take either from
> styleshout or oswd, we should be ready with the site in a day or two. I
> vote that we use Kenneth's app. No point in reinventing the wheel....

at present I am using out-of-the-box blueprint css framework. My design skills 
are less than 0. I firmly believe that design is best done by designers. So any 
one who volunteers can do the design part - no knowledge of python or django 
is needed. Just CSS and HTML. We also use the jquery framework for javascript. 
So, any volunteers?

As for the site, the completely working site will be up sometime in the course 
of the day.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue May 26 11:41:28 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:11:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <200905261449.51261.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <4A17F45E.5030005@nibrahim.net.in>
	<91bea30d0905260141lad9c3a6pea05946cf44aea5b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<200905261449.51261.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 14:24:26 Ramdas S wrote:
> > 15 days is too much. With some css stuff, which we can take either from
> > styleshout or oswd, we should be ready with the site in a day or two. I
> > vote that we use Kenneth's app. No point in reinventing the wheel....
>
> at present I am using out-of-the-box blueprint css framework. My design
> skills
> are less than 0. I firmly believe that design is best done by designers. So
> any
> one who volunteers can do the design part - no knowledge of python or
> django
> is needed. Just CSS and HTML. We also use the jquery framework for
> javascript.
> So, any volunteers?


I think we should post an RFC (request for CSS) designers to BangPypers
list also. This list has 29 members while the other one, close to 400.
It is OK to cross-post once in a while, when there are reasons to do so :)


>
> As for the site, the completely working site will be up sometime in the
> course
> of the day.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Associate
> NRC-FOSS
> http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue May 26 11:59:39 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:29:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Website
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905260241q6ddc3132reb8cb6113339de0e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tuesday 26 May 2009 15:11:28 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > one who volunteers can do the design part - no knowledge of python or
> > django
> > is needed. Just CSS and HTML. We also use the jquery framework for
> > javascript.
> > So, any volunteers?
>
> I think we should post an RFC (request for CSS) designers to BangPypers
> list also. This list has 29 members while the other one, close to 400.
> It is OK to cross-post once in a while, when there are reasons to do so :)

let the working site come up - then we can give the call
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 15:17:06 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:47:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision
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(Cross posting to BangPypers for participation).

Please vote : http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaLogos

I should have been clear about not voting till all the designs were in. I'll
add that to my list of lessons learnt.
Please vote up your favourite logo on the site. Just enter your name in the
'votes' sub section of the logo you like and we'll be ready to go on.

Also, please subscribe to the inpycon list to stay uptodate on the
preparations for the Indian PyCon and to help out.

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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue May 26 15:36:36 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:06:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
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Can I vote for more than one entry?

Anand

2009/5/26 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> (Cross posting to BangPypers for participation).
>
> Please vote : http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaLogos
>
> I should have been clear about not voting till all the designs were in. I'll
> add that to my list of lessons learnt.
> Please vote up your favourite logo on the site. Just enter your name in the
> 'votes' sub section of the logo you like and we'll be ready to go on.
>
> Also, please subscribe to the inpycon list to stay uptodate on the
> preparations for the Indian PyCon and to help out.
>
> --
> ~noufal
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>
>

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue May 26 15:50:26 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:20:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> Can I vote for more than one entry?


    Nothing in the voting system to prevent you from doing that.
 After all it is just a Wiki.

 Btw, I have numbered each logo. It would have been better to have
 a separate voting page with the logo # actually. Editing the entire
 page for voting is rather tricky.


>
>
> Anand
>
> 2009/5/26 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> > (Cross posting to BangPypers for participation).
> >
> > Please vote : http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaLogos
> >
> > I should have been clear about not voting till all the designs were in.
> I'll
> > add that to my list of lessons learnt.
> > Please vote up your favourite logo on the site. Just enter your name in
> the
> > 'votes' sub section of the logo you like and we'll be ready to go on.
> >
> > Also, please subscribe to the inpycon list to stay uptodate on the
> > preparations for the Indian PyCon and to help out.
> >
> > --
> > ~noufal
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 26 16:45:15 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:15:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> Can I vote for more than one entry?


I for one am not going to stop you from doing so. Go right ahead. :)


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From parth.technofreak at gmail.com  Tue May 26 16:56:10 2009
From: parth.technofreak at gmail.com (Parthan SR)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:26:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A1C030A.9090703@gmail.com>


> 1) What is my name?
>   
Parthan "technofreak"
> 2) Where am I located?
>   
Chennai
> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?
>   
Hopefully, yes!
> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.
>   
1. Mathematical Stuff
2. Web App Framework
> 5) Work and Projects
>   
I work for Global Analytics as a developer, using Python for everything. 
We mostly use Python in addition to C++ (and we use them together too).
Am an Ubuntero and an Emacs user. I also have my interests in HCI and 
Usability. I blog at blog.technofreak.in.

6) How can I help with Pycon India 2009.
1. Physically during the event and over list/IRC.


-- 
With Regards,
Parthan SR "technofreak"

GPG Key     2FF01026
Fingerprint 5707 ECBD 8D8D 8E6E 28F8  DFA5 938B D861 2FF0 1026
Weblog      http://blog.technofreak.in


From croozeus at yahoo.com  Tue May 26 18:32:10 2009
From: croozeus at yahoo.com (Pankaj Nathani)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Inpycon] Intro Thread
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905260016m307567c6ma77e32051b85e7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c42eba10905251140k44c6c763v2bd66ab4aeaaeac3@mail.gmail.com>
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> What is my name?
Pankaj Nathani

> Where am I located?
Bhavnagar, Gujarat - Often found at Mumbai and Bangalore

> Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?
> How can I help with Pycon India 2009.
Yes. I wish to speak something on PyS60 and may be some PyS60 tutorials? Lets wait for the agenda.

> Which areas in Python interests you.
I work on Python for Symbian S60 platform - PyS60. And also poke my nose into other mobile platforms like Python on Maemo.

> Work and Projects
PyS60 applications - Google for few like - Shake Me, SwapProfile, SMS2EMAIL, GTranslate, etc - to know more.

Cheers,
Pankaj who likes to know people better


________________________________
From: Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com>
To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:46:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Intro Thread


> 1) What is my name?

Anand Balachandran Pillai/Anand Pillai


> 2) Where am I located?

Bangalore


> 3) Would I be there at PyCon India 2009?

You gotta be kidding!
I will be there, with family -)


> 4) Which areas in Python interests you.


Too numerous to mention. However, specifically
web crawling, data mining, document processing 
and XML/Semantic Web stuff.

Also, regular contributor to ASPN Python Cookbook.
- Cooking Python recipes is fun!

> 5) Work and Projects

HarvestMan: http://harvestmanontheweb.com
EIAO: http://www.eiao.net
Egovmon: http://egovmon.no 


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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed May 27 08:07:05 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:37:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,
   I spent some time yesterday looking through the existing PyCon
sites and tried to come up with a list of 'features' that a site
needs. I then tried to evaluate greenchilly against that. Here are my
feelings.


0. Static pages with categories and a navbar
  We need to be able to create single pages like "About",  etc. which
should be classifiable according to category. A navbar should allow
navigation

1. Blog
  The site *has* to have a blog. It would be nice if it supported
podcasts but that might leech our bandwidth too much.

2. Registration system
  People should be able to register in advance (ie. Register and get
some kind of token which they can use to pay at the venue on the date
of the conference)

3. Link lists
  A way to add a list of links to other sites

4. Uploading content
  A way for people to upload their presentations and stuff so that we
can archive them for the future.

I think 0, 3, 4  (and perhaps 1) can be covered by a wiki or a CMS. 2.
is 'conference specific functionality'.

If there's anything else people can think of, please chime in.

I think the greenchilly db was reset so I don't have access to the
admin section to try everything out. However, KEnneth can probably
tell us whether these things are satisfied.

If we can get clear answers for these, we can wrap up the site
business quickly.

Thanks.

-- 
~noufal

From vid at svaksha.com  Wed May 27 08:08:52 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:38:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 19:06, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can I vote for more than one entry?

How about the Condorcet or the Schulze (internal elections?) method,
both of which iirc are used by debian. If its too complicated a
procedure, maybe each voter could write the number next to their name
indicating first, second, third... choice. Ex. $yourName/ID (1)

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schulze_method

-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Wed May 27 08:19:29 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:49:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
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References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6e38f9f00905262319g486b63a6x9341b585b0d7abb8@mail.gmail.com>

I think Kenneth's app has most of it as I see. See my comments.

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>   I spent some time yesterday looking through the existing PyCon
> sites and tried to come up with a list of 'features' that a site
> needs. I then tried to evaluate greenchilly against that. Here are my
> feelings.
>
>
> 0. Static pages with categories and a navbar
>  We need to be able to create single pages like "About",  etc. which
> should be classifiable according to category. A navbar should allow
> navigation
>

Kenneth,

Can we have  Flat Pages enabled. I think its better not to use a wiki
here.Only the web master need to have control and others can mail the web
master.



>
> 1. Blog
>  The site *has* to have a blog. It would be nice if it supported
> podcasts but that might leech our bandwidth too much.
>


We can have any of the django blog modules there, we just need a simple tag
and post module. no fancy features here.


> 2. Registration system
>  People should be able to register in advance (ie. Register and get
> some kind of token which they can use to pay at the venue on the date
> of the conference)

I think he is already got something done on the site. Only thing he need to
probably add a token generated and send as a part of mail once the person
registers.

>
> 3. Link lists
>  A way to add a list of links to other sites


This is something we can do in less than half an hour in django

>
>
> 4. Uploading content
>  A way for people to upload their presentations and stuff so that we
> can archive them for the future.


I believe this feature is already there in Kenneth's app

>
>
> I think 0, 3, 4  (and perhaps 1) can be covered by a wiki or a CMS. 2.
> is 'conference specific functionality'.
>
> If there's anything else people can think of, please chime in.
>
> I think the greenchilly db was reset so I don't have access to the
> admin section to try everything out. However, KEnneth can probably
> tell us whether these things are satisfied.
>
> If we can get clear answers for these, we can wrap up the site
> business quickly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ~noufal
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed May 27 08:22:21 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:52:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905271152.21262.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

the reset app is nearly ready - some bugs ironed out. I will announce it when 
it is up.

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 11:37:05 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> 0. Static pages with categories and a navbar
> ? We need to be able to create single pages like "About", ?etc. which
> should be classifiable according to category. A navbar should allow
> navigation

that is available
>
> 1. Blog
> ? The site *has* to have a blog. It would be nice if it supported
> podcasts but that might leech our bandwidth too much.

not a blog as such, but ability to post, more like a news stack. We can think 
of adding podcasts also
>
> 2. Registration system
> ? People should be able to register in advance (ie. Register and get
> some kind of token which they can use to pay at the venue on the date
> of the conference)

yes
>
> 3. Link lists
> ? A way to add a list of links to other sites

yes
>
> 4. Uploading content
> ? A way for people to upload their presentations and stuff so that we
> can archive them for the future.

yes - even archiving is automatic
>
> I think 0, 3, 4 ?(and perhaps 1) can be covered by a wiki or a CMS. 2.
> is 'conference specific functionality'.
>
> If there's anything else people can think of, please chime in.
>
> I think the greenchilly db was reset so I don't have access to the
> admin section to try everything out. However, KEnneth can probably
> tell us whether these things are satisfied.

in addition:
rating of talks
suggestion for talks
hall management and scheduling/re-scheduling
selection of talks

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed May 27 08:29:11 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:59:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905271152.21262.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271152.21262.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905262329w627690a2n5cd3ae30565f935e@mail.gmail.com>

I think it should be fine then. Are there any bits of functionality
that I've overlooked?

I presume that all the semantic jazz like RSS feeds are available for
sections the like the blog?

Thanks.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed May 27 08:48:12 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:18:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905262329w627690a2n5cd3ae30565f935e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271152.21262.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905262329w627690a2n5cd3ae30565f935e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 11:59:11 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I think it should be fine then. Are there any bits of functionality
> that I've overlooked?
>
> I presume that all the semantic jazz like RSS feeds are available for
> sections the like the blog?

yes - and anyway if anything is missing it is no big deal to add it. We have a 
good team that is used to modifying production apps under pressure.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed May 27 14:35:55 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:05:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905262329w627690a2n5cd3ae30565f935e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 12:18:12 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 May 2009 11:59:11 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > I think it should be fine then. Are there any bits of functionality
> > that I've overlooked?
> >
> > I presume that all the semantic jazz like RSS feeds are available for
> > sections the like the blog?
>
> yes - and anyway if anything is missing it is no big deal to add it. We
> have a good team that is used to modifying production apps under pressure.

it is now up.
http://greenchilly.in
please register and send me your user names so I can give you admin rights. 
Pleas subject it to exhaustive tests. The scheduling features have not been 
enabled as yet.

we have posts, static pages, links as new features. The feeds and colour 
picker for tags is not yet working perfectly. Probably get done over night.

now all we need is some css love ....
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Wed May 27 15:39:10 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:09:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090524172851.GB6504@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905242106r200e49f6x6c3709852db67a31@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>
	<127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905250811m268ca186wcb8404bb183f40d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:38 AM, VidA <vid at svaksha.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 19:06, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can I vote for more than one entry?

Rules mentioned that you could vote for more than one entry. :( ( sad
smiley for this topic coming for discussion)

> How about the Condorcet or the Schulze (internal elections?) method,

Blah. Nice mathematics, good to read and enjoy. But I like KISS methods. :)

-- 
Senthil

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed May 27 16:27:03 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 19:57:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905242106r200e49f6x6c3709852db67a31@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>
	<127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905250811m268ca186wcb8404bb183f40d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>

The voting is going to stop in a day so please make your voice heard
before tomorrow afternoon.

-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Wed May 27 17:02:49 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:32:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905242108n724c3999nac07e825ae67167f@mail.gmail.com>
	<127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905250811m268ca186wcb8404bb183f40d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905270802l64ddda52tcbc7db2605285e40@mail.gmail.com>

Anand C. * mentioned that it might make sense to have an official logo
and a few 'sticker designs' (for laptop 13,14,15,16 and 17 seem to be
quite suited for both. Food for thought.

-- 
~noufal

From vid at svaksha.com  Thu May 28 06:06:04 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905262329w627690a2n5cd3ae30565f935e@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Message-ID: <12470af00905272106ic4932c7rcdc28ac6951e7017@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 18:05, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> it is now up.
> http://greenchilly.in

after i register it forces me to edit the user profile. shouldnt this
be an optional feature / user choice?

-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Thu May 28 06:09:58 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:39:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CSS Designers?
Message-ID: <7c42eba10905272109l307dcddek75027290a5ad4df6@mail.gmail.com>

Looking at the exciting logos that came up for the PyCon India 2009; I
am inclined to believe that we do have good CSS designers in our
group.
The PyCon India website, currently hosted at http://greenchilly.in
needs someone with CSS skills.  Would any of you like to pitch in? You
may directly contact Kenneth as he is the administrator of the app.


Thanks,
Senthil

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu May 28 08:27:28 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:57:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <12470af00905272106ic4932c7rcdc28ac6951e7017@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<12470af00905272106ic4932c7rcdc28ac6951e7017@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905281157.28140.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 28 May 2009 09:36:04 VidA wrote:
> > it is now up.
> > http://greenchilly.in
>
> after i register it forces me to edit the user profile. shouldnt this
> be an optional feature / user choice?

registering makes you a user. Filling in the profile makes you a delegate. You 
are only forced to fill in a profile if you want to perform some action as a 
delegate - add a talk, rate a talk or volunteer. If you just want to view the 
site, you need not register.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu May 28 10:08:59 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:38:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 18:05:55 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> we have posts, static pages, links as new features. The feeds and colour
> picker for tags is not yet working perfectly. Probably get done over night.
>
> now all we need is some css love ....

we have one volunteer for the design part - he will start work when the logo 
is decided. More volunteers are welcome.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 28 14:26:14 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:56:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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I think then that all the points which I've mentioned are covered by
the site. If there are any more than people can think of, please
holler!

I think then we can have greenchilly.in as our primary website. The
open items as far as I can tell are

0. A CSS/design volunteer to help Kenneth with souping up the site.
Vivek mentioned that he had a designer. Can he help out with this?

1. A domain redirection which is trivial. Anand. Can you do this so
that in.pycon.org points to greenchilly.in?

I have a mild concern about any future fixes/enhancements we might
have to make on the site. Can you own up the site thing completely
Kenneth? Including getting fixes in place and making sure that it runs
fine? If the app is opensource and is hosted on github or something,
we might be able to pitch in as well (if you need it).

Kenneth,
  If you can coordinate with the volunteers and get the site
(including the look/feel) up by Monday, it would be excellent.

Thanks.

-- 
~noufal

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 28 14:58:30 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:28:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think then that all the points which I've mentioned are covered by
> the site. If there are any more than people can think of, please
> holler!
>
> I think then we can have greenchilly.in as our primary website. The
> open items as far as I can tell are
>
> 0. A CSS/design volunteer to help Kenneth with souping up the site.
> Vivek mentioned that he had a designer. Can he help out with this?
>
> 1. A domain redirection which is trivial. Anand. Can you do this so
> that in.pycon.org points to greenchilly.in?
>
> I have a mild concern about any future fixes/enhancements we might
> have to make on the site. Can you own up the site thing completely
> Kenneth? Including getting fixes in place and making sure that it runs
> fine? If the app is opensource and is hosted on github or something,
> we might be able to pitch in as well (if you need it).
>
> Kenneth,
>  If you can coordinate with the volunteers and get the site
> (including the look/feel) up by Monday, it would be excellent.



A big vote of thanks to Kenneth for getting it so far...
Excellent work.

Btw, I am not going to get pushed for another
redirection request unless the site has some logos and
looks more presentable. Right now I see only placeholders
for the logo etc.

Let us wait for Kenneth to get the look/feel correct and then
do the final redirection and advertise it to the world through
the blogs and mailing lists.

Btw, I did not get a chance to test the site so far. Can someone
send a username/passwd to my email address to login ?


>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ~noufal
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


Regards,

-- 
-Anand
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Thu May 28 16:24:51 2009
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:54:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Message-ID: <6e38f9f00905280724ua2b2c8ck8aebcc2b46dc6ec0@mail.gmail.com>

if someone can choose a good design from freecsstemplates.org or
stylesheet.com or oswd or somewhere, I can have a person from my team who
undersatnds djnago templating to customize the same.

I think there will be 2-3 templates that need be fixed and we can do
that.....\

Thanks

Ramdas
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>  On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think then that all the points which I've mentioned are covered by
>> the site. If there are any more than people can think of, please
>> holler!
>>
>> I think then we can have greenchilly.in as our primary website. The
>> open items as far as I can tell are
>>
>> 0. A CSS/design volunteer to help Kenneth with souping up the site.
>> Vivek mentioned that he had a designer. Can he help out with this?
>>
>> 1. A domain redirection which is trivial. Anand. Can you do this so
>> that in.pycon.org points to greenchilly.in?
>>
>> I have a mild concern about any future fixes/enhancements we might
>> have to make on the site. Can you own up the site thing completely
>> Kenneth? Including getting fixes in place and making sure that it runs
>> fine? If the app is opensource and is hosted on github or something,
>> we might be able to pitch in as well (if you need it).
>>
>> Kenneth,
>>  If you can coordinate with the volunteers and get the site
>> (including the look/feel) up by Monday, it would be excellent.
>
>
>
> A big vote of thanks to Kenneth for getting it so far...
> Excellent work.
>
> Btw, I am not going to get pushed for another
> redirection request unless the site has some logos and
> looks more presentable. Right now I see only placeholders
> for the logo etc.
>
> Let us wait for Kenneth to get the look/feel correct and then
> do the final redirection and advertise it to the world through
> the blogs and mailing lists.
>
> Btw, I did not get a chance to test the site so far. Can someone
> send a username/passwd to my email address to login ?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> ~noufal
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> -Anand
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


-- 
Ramdas S
+91 9342 583 065
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 28 17:03:20 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:33:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9963e56e0905280803g10dc80ceud9c67830ab053e07@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Btw, I am not going to get pushed for another
> redirection request unless the site has some logos and
> looks more presentable. Right now I see only placeholders
> for the logo etc.


I meant Anand C. Now we know why namespaces are a good thing. :)


-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 28 18:36:05 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:06:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905270802l64ddda52tcbc7db2605285e40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905240505q6c66724fw85896063f0cc819b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<9963e56e0905250811m268ca186wcb8404bb183f40d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9963e56e0905280936x16b4f713u54ae3226e726429a@mail.gmail.com>

Okay. Voting's over. Here are the results. Top 3 in increasing order of votes.

2. Logo no. 8 (from Smriti) *  - 4 votes
1. Logo no. 9 (from Vipin)      - 9 votes
0. Logo no. 14 (by Bharat Keshav) - 14 votes


* - According to David Goodger, this one alters the python logo and we
might have trademark issues with the PSF. It's not amongst the top 2
so we can ignore it. I mailed psf-trademarks about this but didn't
really get any replies. We'll stay away to be safe.

Between logo 9 and 14, I think we should keep one as the Logo for the
site and the other as a sticker design for the swag and laptop
stickers (the more public face).

I think 9 is simple enough to go on a site and 14 looks more
'stickerish'. What do you all think?




-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:10:53 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:40:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Useful advice for conferences
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905281010j30752181r1cc461939d4c8f7a@mail.gmail.com>

http://hackvan.com/brain/msg00020.html

Got this off Planet Python. It looks rather good.

-- 
~noufal

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:10:45 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:40:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905280936x16b4f713u54ae3226e726429a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270802l64ddda52tcbc7db2605285e40@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905280936x16b4f713u54ae3226e726429a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090528171044.GA3900@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:06:05PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> 
> Between logo 9 and 14, I think we should keep one as the Logo for the
> site and the other as a sticker design for the swag and laptop
> stickers (the more public face).
> 
> I think 9 is simple enough to go on a site and 14 looks more
> 'stickerish'. What do you all think?
> 

I would say just go for one logo. Whichever won. 
Have it in site. Let us make stickers if really need to. Thinking
about stickers is a minor thing that would be part of the swag.
But Logo would be there at many places and in stickers too.

So, I would suggest not to mix it here.
The contest was for Logos and we can just do the logo first.

-- 
Senthil


From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 28 19:21:36 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:51:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <20090528171044.GA3900@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905252316n58b91b48of94577aa081bc0aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270802l64ddda52tcbc7db2605285e40@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905280936x16b4f713u54ae3226e726429a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090528171044.GA3900@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905281021i68a0ab5dj99fc681c42227776@mail.gmail.com>

(Missed out inpycon)

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> I would say just go for one logo. Whichever won.
> Have it in site. Let us make stickers if really need to. Thinking
> about stickers is a minor thing that would be part of the swag.
> But Logo would be there at many places and in stickers too.
>
> So, I would suggest not to mix it here.
> The contest was for Logos and we can just do the logo first.
[..]

Totall agreed. So logo no 14. it is then. I've updated the wiki to
reflect this.

Whoever is helping Kenneth with the design, this is your 'official'
logo for the site.




-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 07:27:38 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:57:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 28 May 2009 17:56:14 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I have a mild concern about any future fixes/enhancements we might
> have to make on the site. Can you own up the site thing completely
> Kenneth? Including getting fixes in place and making sure that it runs
> fine? If the app is opensource and is hosted on github or something,
> we might be able to pitch in as well (if you need it).

I own the site and will be responsible for getting fixes in place and seeing 
that it does not crash. The code is hosted on a publicly available repository, 
the link to which I have already posted three times here.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 07:29:26 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:59:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
	<8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291059.26998.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:28:30 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> Btw, I did not get a chance to test the site so far. Can someone
> send a username/passwd to my email address to login ?

register on the site, and I will give you admin rights. I am a bit surprised 
that no one has excercised his/her admin rights - please play with it. Anyway 
the database will be reset before we go live.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 07:35:56 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:05:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905282235h74fd1fb0ueb50e70e0e787583@mail.gmail.com>

> The code is hosted on a publicly available repository,
> the link to which I have already posted three times here.

Really? I don't remember seeing it. searching for "Kenneth svn" in my
mailbox doesn't produce any useful results.
Anyway, it doesn't hurt to post the link once again.

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 07:39:55 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:09:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905282235h74fd1fb0ueb50e70e0e787583@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905282235h74fd1fb0ueb50e70e0e787583@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291109.55253.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 11:05:56 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> > The code is hosted on a publicly available repository,
> > the link to which I have already posted three times here.
>
> Really? I don't remember seeing it. searching for "Kenneth svn" in my
> mailbox doesn't produce any useful results.
> Anyway, it doesn't hurt to post the link once again.

http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 07:57:26 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:27:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291109.55253.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905282235h74fd1fb0ueb50e70e0e787583@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291109.55253.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905282257u153ceeeawb9737c860a887cbd@mail.gmail.com>

2009/5/29 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>:
> On Friday 29 May 2009 11:05:56 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> > The code is hosted on a publicly available repository,
>> > the link to which I have already posted three times here.
>>
>> Really? I don't remember seeing it. searching for "Kenneth svn" in my
>> mailbox doesn't produce any useful results.
>> Anyway, it doesn't hurt to post the link once again.
>
> http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x

It doesn't seem to be working.

$ svn list http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x'
svn: PROPFIND of '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x': 405
Method Not Allowed (http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in)

$ curl -I http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
...

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 07:59:36 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:29:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905282257u153ceeeawb9737c860a887cbd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291109.55253.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905282257u153ceeeawb9737c860a887cbd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291129.37075.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 11:27:26 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> 2009/5/29 Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>:
> > On Friday 29 May 2009 11:05:56 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> >> > The code is hosted on a publicly available repository,
> >> > the link to which I have already posted three times here.
> >>
> >> Really? I don't remember seeing it. searching for "Kenneth svn" in my
> >> mailbox doesn't produce any useful results.
> >> Anyway, it doesn't hurt to post the link once again.
> >
> > http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
>
> It doesn't seem to be working.
>
> $ svn list
> http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x svn:
> PROPFIND request failed on '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x' svn:
> PROPFIND of '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x': 405
> Method Not Allowed (http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in)

argghh https://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 08:06:56 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:36:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291129.37075.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905282257u153ceeeawb9737c860a887cbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291129.37075.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 11:29:36 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > $ svn list
> > http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x
> > svn: PROPFIND request failed on
> > '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x' svn: PROPFIND of
> > '/public/conference/branches/conference1.x': 405
> > Method Not Allowed (http://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in)
>
> argghh
> https://svn.nrcfosshelpline.in/public/conference/branches/conference1.x

also:
http://registration.fossconf.in/code/browser/branches/conference1.x
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 08:23:46 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:53:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291057.39095.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905282323k364780b5u64d3220a42d670af@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
[..]
> I own the site and will be responsible for getting fixes in place and seeing
> that it does not crash. The code is hosted on a publicly available repository,
> the link to which I have already posted three times here.

Excellent!

I remember you mentioning that there was someone who chimed in about
the CSS. Please coordinate with him to get the site design updated.

Thanks.



-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 08:29:09 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 11:59:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <6e38f9f00905280724ua2b2c8ck8aebcc2b46dc6ec0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905271218.12992.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905271805.56183.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905281338.59402.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905280526v4350e065ia35d5f5c45adfde7@mail.gmail.com>
	<8548c5f30905280558p6c81d278m91af4b9c4b6eb04b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00905280724ua2b2c8ck8aebcc2b46dc6ec0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905282329k61753b2et799a6f9fb1616ded@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> if someone can choose a good design from freecsstemplates.org or
> stylesheet.com or oswd or somewhere, I can have a person from my team who
> undersatnds djnago templating to customize the same.
>
> I think there will be 2-3 templates that need be fixed and we can do
> that.....\\


These look decent in my opinion

http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/boorish

It will work. The banner colour needs to be changed (some
saffron/green thing perhaps) and we need to stitch in the logo. Apart
from that, the layout is fine.

Can you co-ordinate with Kenneth and wrap this up? I'm eager to get
the website out of the way by the end of the month. :)


-- 
~noufal

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 09:02:49 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:32:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<41139fcb0905282257u153ceeeawb9737c860a887cbd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291129.37075.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905290002l2f829ca9gca3996d5288732b5@mail.gmail.com>

Here is my feedback about the site.

# Registration

* Asking for first name and last name, assuming the first name is
initial and displaying it as LastName FirstName are very confusing.
Why not just ask for fullname and display it as the use enters it.

* issues with 3-step registration

1. step1 asks for username and email and asks the user to fill the
details later.
2. step2 requires the user to click on the confirmation mail and enter
username (why again?) and pick password.
3. and then step 3 asks the user to enter first name and last name.

Wouldn't it be better if fullname of the user and password are asked
in the step 1 and step 2 just says, "your registation is confirmed"?

# Adding talks

adding task crashes when no slides are attached.

# questions?

* Is early-bird registration is same as user registration?

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 09:17:24 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:47:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905282329k61753b2et799a6f9fb1616ded@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00905280724ua2b2c8ck8aebcc2b46dc6ec0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905282329k61753b2et799a6f9fb1616ded@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291247.24810.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 11:59:09 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > if someone can choose a good design from freecsstemplates.org or
> > stylesheet.com or oswd or somewhere, I can have a person from my team who
> > undersatnds djnago templating to customize the same.
> >
> > I think there will be 2-3 templates that need be fixed and we can do
> > that.....\\
>
> These look decent in my opinion
>
> http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/boorish
>
> It will work. The banner colour needs to be changed (some
> saffron/green thing perhaps) and we need to stitch in the logo. Apart
> from that, the layout is fine.

sree is doing this - please include him in all discussions on the topic
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 09:28:09 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:58:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290002l2f829ca9gca3996d5288732b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290002l2f829ca9gca3996d5288732b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291258.09478.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 12:32:49 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> Here is my feedback about the site.
>
> # Registration
>
> * Asking for first name and last name, assuming the first name is
> initial and displaying it as LastName FirstName are very confusing.
> Why not just ask for fullname and display it as the use enters it.

We are sorting on lastname - seems to be a convention, so would like it 
separate. Firstname is not compulsory. Anyway, it is no big deal. If enough 
people want it changed it can be done.
>
> * issues with 3-step registration
>
> 1. step1 asks for username and email and asks the user to fill the
> details later.
> 2. step2 requires the user to click on the confirmation mail and enter
> username (why again?) and pick password.
> 3. and then step 3 asks the user to enter first name and last name.
>
> Wouldn't it be better if fullname of the user and password are asked
> in the step 1 and step 2 just says, "your registation is confirmed"?

this is done to confuse the forces of evil (spammers). It is either this way 
or using captchas - I hate captchas because my eyesight is not too good and I 
always enter them wrong. MoinMoin uses the scheme you are suggesting, but a 
lot of chinese spam gets through that. So this is a wontfix
>
> # Adding talks
>
> adding task crashes when no slides are attached.

that is fixed
>
> # questions?
>
> * Is early-bird registration is same as user registration?

we record the date that the user registers and the date when she fills in her 
profile and becomes a delegate. So those who register before the cut off date 
are early birds. They just need to take a printout of their profile and present 
it for a discount. Or just mention their name at the counter and we can check.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 09:30:43 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:00:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291247.24810.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<6e38f9f00905280724ua2b2c8ck8aebcc2b46dc6ec0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905282329k61753b2et799a6f9fb1616ded@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291247.24810.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290030x1807eb21m64c4ad408a1bfe34@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:

> sree is doing this - please include him in all discussions on the topic

I'm not sure I have his address. Can you send it to me?

-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 09:38:04 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:08:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291258.09478.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290002l2f829ca9gca3996d5288732b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291258.09478.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290038vd17ae1dt44fdf601823b2c9@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
[..]
> we record the date that the user registers and the date when she fills in her
> profile and becomes a delegate. So those who register before the cut off date
> are early birds. They just need to take a printout of their profile and present
> it for a discount. Or just mention their name at the counter and we can check.

I'm a tad confused (probably because I haven't really used the site
properly yet).

I can think of 4 classes of users.
0. site admins
1. Regular Junta who want to register for the event as audience (let's
call them audience)
2. PEople who want to deliver presentations (let's call them delegates)
3. People who are just looking at the site


3 Should be able to view all the public parts of the site without
having to register.

1 should be able to register and then click on "I want to give a
presentation" (or some such) so that they can become a delegate (ie.
2)

2 should be able to upload content to the site (presentation slide decks etc.)

0. Have access to some admin pages where they can things like 'list of
all people registered' etc.

>From your mails, I guess this is how things are. Correct?


-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 09:41:22 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:11:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905282329k61753b2et799a6f9fb1616ded@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> if someone can choose a good design from freecsstemplates.org or
>> stylesheet.com or oswd or somewhere, I can have a person from my team who
>> undersatnds djnago templating to customize the same.
>>
>> I think there will be 2-3 templates that need be fixed and we can do
>> that.....\\
>
>
> These look decent in my opinion
>
> http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/boorish
>
> It will work. The banner colour needs to be changed (some
> saffron/green thing perhaps) and we need to stitch in the logo. Apart
> from that, the layout is fine.
>
> Can you co-ordinate with Kenneth and wrap this up? I'm eager to get
> the website out of the way by the end of the month. :)
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
>



-- 
~noufal

From bharath.keshav at gmail.com  Fri May 29 10:09:47 2009
From: bharath.keshav at gmail.com (Bharath Keshav)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:39:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905281021i68a0ab5dj99fc681c42227776@mail.gmail.com>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905260617h9d9414cr12b26ac9b3681dba@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905260636j507bed26r8233996b0934f19@mail.gmail.com>
	<12470af00905262308o6309040ake9cb255963fa24dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<7c42eba10905270639tc3a3451je649b8aa652c1d6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270727w61602bc2k887659d477928b71@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905270802l64ddda52tcbc7db2605285e40@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905280936x16b4f713u54ae3226e726429a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090528171044.GA3900@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905281021i68a0ab5dj99fc681c42227776@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd2dde450905290109p28580a4cme99db27549257eb5@mail.gmail.com>

Cool. I need fiddle a bit with the logo before we get anything printed, as
the gradiation and the color won't come up exactly the same when we get it
printed. Let me know before we print it on anything.

There is another high resolution version of this logo uploaded on wiki. I
have the original vector image, from which I can save as bitmap or any other
high quality versions. Let me know if anything else is required apart from
current jpg.

cheers,
Bharath

PS: I have credited my friend Mr Rupesh who helped with the logo design, on
the wiki site.




On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> (Missed out inpycon)
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [..]
> > I would say just go for one logo. Whichever won.
> > Have it in site. Let us make stickers if really need to. Thinking
> > about stickers is a minor thing that would be part of the swag.
> > But Logo would be there at many places and in stickers too.
> >
> > So, I would suggest not to mix it here.
> > The contest was for Logos and we can just do the logo first.
> [..]
>
> Totall agreed. So logo no 14. it is then. I've updated the wiki to
> reflect this.
>
> Whoever is helping Kenneth with the design, this is your 'official'
> logo for the site.
>
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 11:03:13 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:33:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905290038vd17ae1dt44fdf601823b2c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
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On Friday 29 May 2009 13:08:04 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>
> wrote: [..]
>
> > we record the date that the user registers and the date when she fills in
> > her profile and becomes a delegate. So those who register before the cut
> > off date are early birds. They just need to take a printout of their
> > profile and present it for a discount. Or just mention their name at the
> > counter and we can check.
>
> I'm a tad confused (probably because I haven't really used the site
> properly yet).
>
> I can think of 4 classes of users.
> 0. site admins
> 1. Regular Junta who want to register for the event as audience (let's
> call them audience)
> 2. PEople who want to deliver presentations (let's call them delegates)
> 3. People who are just looking at the site
>
>
> 3 Should be able to view all the public parts of the site without
> having to register.
>
> 1 should be able to register and then click on "I want to give a
> presentation" (or some such) so that they can become a delegate (ie.
> 2)
>
> 2 should be able to upload content to the site (presentation slide decks
> etc.)
>
> 0. Have access to some admin pages where they can things like 'list of
> all people registered' etc.
>
> >From your mails, I guess this is how things are. Correct?

correct.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 11:22:38 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:52:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <200905291258.09478.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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>> * Asking for first name and last name, assuming the first name is
>> initial and displaying it as LastName FirstName are very confusing.
>> Why not just ask for fullname and display it as the use enters it.
>
> We are sorting on lastname - seems to be a convention, so would like it
> separate. Firstname is not compulsory. Anyway, it is no big deal. If enough
> people want it changed it can be done.

That probably makes sense if there is a standard convention in writing
first name and last name.
Esp. in India, first name and last name issue is big chaos.
I suggest asking people for their full name instead of asking first
name and last name.

>> * issues with 3-step registration
>>
>> 1. step1 asks for username and email and asks the user to fill the
>> details later.
>> 2. step2 requires the user to click on the confirmation mail and enter
>> username (why again?) and pick password.
>> 3. and then step 3 asks the user to enter first name and last name.
>>
>> Wouldn't it be better if fullname of the user and password are asked
>> in the step 1 and step 2 just says, "your registation is confirmed"?
>
> this is done to confuse the forces of evil (spammers). It is either this way
> or using captchas - I hate captchas because my eyesight is not too good and I
> always enter them wrong. MoinMoin uses the scheme you are suggesting, but a
> lot of chinese spam gets through that. So this is a wontfix

It makes user registration so painful. There has to be a better way of
registering.

>> adding task crashes when no slides are attached.
>
> that is fixed

Thanks.

>> # questions?
>>
>> * Is early-bird registration is same as user registration?
>
> we record the date that the user registers and the date when she fills in her
> profile and becomes a delegate. So those who register before the cut off date
> are early birds. They just need to take a printout of their profile and present
> it for a discount. Or just mention their name at the counter and we can check.

Can't conference registration be different from registration on the website?
A conference participant shouldn't have to create a user account on a
website and remember a password. Why can't we simply do this:

* User enters his name, organization/institution and email in a form.
* Server saves these details in the db and sends an email with confirmation.
* When user comes to the conference, he tells that he did early bird
registration and pays the fee.

The page containing all the registered users can be displayed in a
protected page only visible to the admins.
Does it makes sense?

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 11:21:45 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 14:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
Message-ID: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

hi,

am starting a new thread for announcing new features in the website. This 
thread can also be used for feature requests. 

1. Comments added to posts
2. Tag colours now added to talks
3. Colour picker working
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 13:07:06 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:37:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
Message-ID: <200905291637.07016.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

Hi,

now that the choice of website and logo has been made, we are ready to roll. 
First let's define responsibilities:

1. Maintaining and updating the website will be done by the fossconf-devel 
team. Currently the active members are me, allround maintainence and general 
dogsbody, Theju - rocket scientist for the tricky bits and Sree for design. 
Anyone else willing to join are welcome to mail me offlist. We will attempt to 
accommodate all reasonable feature and change requests and will even go the 
extra mile to try and fulfil unreasonable requests. But the final decision on 
website features will be by us. At times we will mark some request as wontfix. 
This is because endless debate on some things obstructs the work. You are 
requested to respect our decisions in these matters.

2. Administering the website will be done by those selected to do this. They 
will be given admin rights. Noufal will determine who gets admin rights and to 
what extent they have the rights. Our team will just implement this. Apart 
from me, one or more people will also have superuser rights. Again this is 
Noufal's call.

3. The immediate tasks are:

a. Decide talk classification - like 'Talk one hour', 'Tutorial two hours' etc. 
This is flexible and can be changed any time by the admins.

b. Draft call for participation, call for papers and call for sponsors. These 
three may be finalised on the wiki and then put up as static pages.

c. Put up a static page on how to use the website (our team will do this)

4. To make things easy for the admins, both static pages and posts have 
tiny_mce enabled. Please do not start a discussion on this, it is wontfix ;-)

5. Email - I can configure smtp and imap to send/receive mails from the 
in.pycon.org domain, but it is up to the admins to decide whether to use these 
ids or to use their own. Either way is ok.

6. Backup site. It is necessary to have a backup site on another server 
mirroring the main site which should be ready to go if anything happens to the 
main site. Any volunteers for this?

Please also note that the conference software is an opensource project and as 
such, there will *never* be a final version. It will be developing right upto 
the end of the conference. So it is never too late for a feature request.

I hope I do not sound too bossy above - if so, remember it is for a good 
cause.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 13:25:18 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:55:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <200905291637.07016.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291637.07016.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290425q2c649e29j4d69e88ac58fd7d5@mail.gmail.com>

I think 1 person from Bangalore with admin/superuser rights is
necessary. I won't personally be able to spend time on this
responsibility.

We need a volunteer. Anyone here willing? I don't think any coding is involved.

Just babysitting the site and keeping it upto date.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 13:28:26 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:58:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 14:51:45 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> am starting a new thread for announcing new features in the website. This
> thread can also be used for feature requests.
>
> 1. Comments added to posts
> 2. Tag colours now added to talks
> 3. Colour picker working

logo added
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 13:48:51 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:18:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905290448x10d9707ey8c1df887bc21adbd@mail.gmail.com>

I am using this thread also for reporting bugs. Kenneth, please let me
know if you prefer a new thread for this.

- http://greenchilly.in/speakerlist/ says "No talks registered" even
though there are three talks registered.
- "Home" link is pointing to "/staticpage/1/" instead of "/".

Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 13:53:46 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:23:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290448x10d9707ey8c1df887bc21adbd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290448x10d9707ey8c1df887bc21adbd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291723.46552.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 17:18:51 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> I am using this thread also for reporting bugs. Kenneth, please let me
> know if you prefer a new thread for this.

sure
>
> - http://greenchilly.in/speakerlist/ says "No talks registered" even
> though there are three talks registered.

fixed
> - "Home" link is pointing to "/staticpage/1/" instead of "/".

that is correct. '/' points to the 'posts' page which is what the viewers will 
want to see.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 14:08:52 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:38:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291723.46552.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org> 
	<41139fcb0905290448x10d9707ey8c1df887bc21adbd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200905291723.46552.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>

>> - http://greenchilly.in/speakerlist/ says "No talks registered" even
>> though there are three talks registered.
>
> fixed

I still see the same.

>> - "Home" link is pointing to "/staticpage/1/" instead of "/".
>
> that is correct. '/' points to the 'posts' page which is what the viewers will
> want to see.

Then what is home?

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 14:12:30 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:42:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291658.27079.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290448x10d9707ey8c1df887bc21adbd@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291723.46552.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> - http://greenchilly.in/speakerlist/ says "No talks registered" even
>>> though there are three talks registered.
>>
>> fixed
>
> I still see the same.

I think it's because the talks are not 'scheduled' yet.

>>> - "Home" link is pointing to "/staticpage/1/" instead of "/".
>>
>> that is correct. '/' points to the 'posts' page which is what the viewers will
>> want to see.
>
> Then what is home?

'home' is a little misleading. Atleast conventionally, home refers to
page you land on when you visit the site. If you're going to display
the posts by default. That's what 'home' should point to as well.
Otherwise, we can make 'home' a static page with a link to the 'posts'
page.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 14:13:23 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:43:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905291723.46552.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291743.23519.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 17:38:52 Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> >> - http://greenchilly.in/speakerlist/ says "No talks registered" even
> >> though there are three talks registered.
> >
> > fixed
>
> I still see the same.

it should read 'No talks scheduled'

and am changing it to 'No accepted talks so far' as this is a list of accepted 
talks ordered by speaker names.
>
> >> - "Home" link is pointing to "/staticpage/1/" instead of "/".
> >
> > that is correct. '/' points to the 'posts' page which is what the viewers
> > will want to see.
>
> Then what is home?

'home' is a static page - general info about the conference which will be put 
up by the admins.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 14:15:26 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:45:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 17:42:30 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > Then what is home?
>
> 'home' is a little misleading. Atleast conventionally, home refers to
> page you land on when you visit the site. If you're going to display
> the posts by default. That's what 'home' should point to as well.
> Otherwise, we can make 'home' a static page with a link to the 'posts'
> page.

I called it 'home' just to experiment with static pages. It can be called 
anything. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 14:19:47 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:49:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290519g4e67e30ej6798702d14520ca4@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
[..]
> I called it 'home' just to experiment with static pages. It can be called
> anything.

We should call it 'about' or something like that. Not home.

Anand C.,
   Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
'live' in some sense. After that, we can get the design in and then
ask David Goodger to announce us on the relevant lists.

Thanks



-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri May 29 14:20:30 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:50:30 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <200905291637.07016.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291637.07016.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905291750.31102.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 16:37:06 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> Hi,
>
> now that the choice of website and logo has been made, we are ready to
> roll. First let's define responsibilities:
>
> 1. Maintaining and updating the website will be done by the fossconf-devel
> team. Currently the active members are me, allround maintainence and
> general dogsbody, Theju - rocket scientist for the tricky bits and Sree for
> design. Anyone else willing to join are welcome to mail me offlist. We will
> attempt to accommodate all reasonable feature and change requests and will
> even go the extra mile to try and fulfil unreasonable requests. But the
> final decision on website features will be by us. At times we will mark
> some request as wontfix. This is because endless debate on some things
> obstructs the work. You are requested to respect our decisions in these
> matters.
>
> 2. Administering the website will be done by those selected to do this.
> They will be given admin rights. Noufal will determine who gets admin
> rights and to what extent they have the rights. Our team will just
> implement this. Apart from me, one or more people will also have superuser
> rights. Again this is Noufal's call.
>
> 3. The immediate tasks are:
>
> a. Decide talk classification - like 'Talk one hour', 'Tutorial two hours'
> etc. This is flexible and can be changed any time by the admins.
>
> b. Draft call for participation, call for papers and call for sponsors.
> These three may be finalised on the wiki and then put up as static pages.
>
> c. Put up a static page on how to use the website (our team will do this)
>
> 4. To make things easy for the admins, both static pages and posts have
> tiny_mce enabled. Please do not start a discussion on this, it is wontfix
> ;-)
>
> 5. Email - I can configure smtp and imap to send/receive mails from the
> in.pycon.org domain, but it is up to the admins to decide whether to use
> these ids or to use their own. Either way is ok.
>
> 6. Backup site. It is necessary to have a backup site on another server
> mirroring the main site which should be ready to go if anything happens to
> the main site. Any volunteers for this?

7. Draft and finalise an 'about' page

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May 29 15:06:42 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 18:36:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905290519g4e67e30ej6798702d14520ca4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com> 
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com> 
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> Anand C.,
> ? Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
> 'live' in some sense.

Done. It may take some time to see the effect of the changes.

From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri May 29 17:19:08 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 20:49:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905290519g4e67e30ej6798702d14520ca4@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> > Anand C.,
> >   Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
> > 'live' in some sense.
>

I just tried in.pycon.org . It says "FOSS Competency certification"
in front page.

What is the hurry to go "live" with an effort which clearly
has some way to go forward ?

Isn't it better to make the work at least 90% done and then
go live ?

Please listen to others before you go ahead and rush things
like this.


> Done. It may take some time to see the effect of the changes.
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>


Thanks

-- 
-Anand
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 17:59:29 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:29:29 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> > Anand C.,
>> > ? Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
>> > 'live' in some sense.
>
> I just tried in.pycon.org . It says "FOSS Competency certification"
> in front page.
>
> What is the hurry to go "live" with an effort which clearly
> has some way to go forward ?
>
> Isn't it better to make the work at least 90% done and then
> go live ?

We are not going to announce this to anyone till we're satisfied with
the design and the content.

I see no harm in simply making the domain point to greenchilly.in.

In any case, the site is almost fully functional. Some more design and
content and we're good to go.





-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 18:28:12 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:58:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9963e56e0905290928s1692bea6g2c3c28d0048ba058@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Please listen to others before you go ahead and rush things
> like this.

In retrospect, you're right. I should have discussed this before
leaping into it. My eagerness to get the site up and running for the
better of me.

Thanks for this. :)


-- 
~noufal

From ranganaths at gmail.com  Fri May 29 18:23:09 2009
From: ranganaths at gmail.com (Ranganath s)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:53:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
Message-ID: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>

hi all,

       I would like to take the initiative of being admin to the pycon
site..

Regards
Ranganath.S


-- 
I blog at http://ranganaths.wordpress.com
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From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 19:36:53 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:06:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905291036o1421faa1o7d7a6cc0fc5f2ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Ranganath s <ranganaths at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> ?????? I would like to take the initiative of being admin to the pycon
> site..
>

Thanks for stepping up Ranganath.

Please go ahead and register on the site. Kenneth can then make you an
admin. You can probably try playing around on the site just to
understand how it works.

Kenneth,
   Please do the needful.


-- 
~noufal

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 29 19:46:04 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:16:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
Message-ID: <20090529174604.GA3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 04:55:18PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> I think 1 person from Bangalore with admin/superuser rights is
> necessary. I won't personally be able to spend time on this
> responsibility.
> 
> We need a volunteer. Anyone here willing? I don't think any coding is involved.
> 
> Just babysitting the site and keeping it upto date.

I can try that and I have already been given the admin access.
I can work with the website; keep an eye on it seeing that things are
upto date and working.

-- 
Senthil


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 29 19:47:44 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:17:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090529174744.GB3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 09:53:09PM +0530, Ranganath s wrote:
> 
>        I would like to take the initiative of being admin to the pycon site..

Just saw this. Okay. No problem, but still I am there with additional
pair of eyes, hands and a laptop.

-- 
Senthil


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 29 20:03:38 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:33:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website evaluation
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905290222p525fe013nf436b50f8c179b1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9963e56e0905262307m2897885cn73ff2bc4f51657e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291136.56543.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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Message-ID: <20090529180338.GC3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 02:52:38PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> 
> That probably makes sense if there is a standard convention in writing
> first name and last name.
> Esp. in India, first name and last name issue is big chaos.
> I suggest asking people for their full name instead of asking first
> name and last name.
> 

+1 on that. Yes, in India we don't have convention on Firstname and
Lastname. 

> Can't conference registration be different from registration on the website?
> A conference participant shouldn't have to create a user account on a
> website and remember a password. Why can't we simply do this:
> 
> * User enters his name, organization/institution and email in a form.
> * Server saves these details in the db and sends an email with confirmation.
> * When user comes to the conference, he tells that he did early bird
> registration and pays the fee.
> 
> The page containing all the registered users can be displayed in a
> protected page only visible to the admins.
> Does it makes sense?
> 

Wow, Anand. These are excellent thoughts. I fully support this method.
My only thought in favor of someone registering and having a
user-account will make the delegate a little bit more serious than
just filling up a form? This is from a psychological POV. Any thoughts
or objections?

-- 
Senthil


From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 29 20:15:37 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 23:45:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905290519g4e67e30ej6798702d14520ca4@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090529181537.GD3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 08:49:08PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:

> What is the hurry to go "live" with an effort which clearly
> has some way to go forward ?
> 
> Isn't it better to make the work at least 90% done and then
> go live ?

Even I fail to understand this. :( 
Why are we in such a hurry for this one? 

The work on site is still going on and lot of things need to be ironed
out before we make it under in.pycon.org

1) Let us test the site as Kenneth has requested us to do.
2) Anand Pillai had taken the task of informing David Goodger on
changing the CNAME earlier and expressed a valid concern that we need
to have something up before we make the change again.

3) I am still trying out the greenchilly.in site and I have couple of
points to discuss.
   a) It seems slow from my home and I am seriously worried about
that.
   b) It is not yet complete.. We will have to give a lot of test run
on registration as  user, delegate, admin and see that things are
working.
   c) CSS stuffs. Giving them enough time to think and work out.

 
This is a not a time to hurry with the website.

My suggestion is:

1) Give a test for week.
2) Let us do another face-to-face meeting for discussing the format
and list of things which Kenneth had listed in his email on things
TODO. 
3) After face to face meeting next week, we can certainly certain good
ideas and we can make the site up LIVE!  ( I dont expect even that to
be a 100% complete one; but a 70-80% complete site would also be a good
one to start with).



-- 
Senthil


From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 20:45:09 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:15:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <20090529181537.GD3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 08:49:08PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
[..]
> 1) Give a test for week.
> 2) Let us do another face-to-face meeting for discussing the format
> and list of things which Kenneth had listed in his email on things
> TODO.
> 3) After face to face meeting next week, we can certainly certain good
> ideas and we can make the site up LIVE! ?( I dont expect even that to
> be a 100% complete one; but a 70-80% complete site would also be a good
> one to start with).

I concur. It was a bad decision on my part rushing the domain change.
Shall we revert it so that in.pycon.org comes back to the placeholder
page? Anand should be able to do that easily.

-- 
~noufal

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 29 21:12:27 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:42:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905291145h509b21d6jd2df16cd9c9ac193@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905291745.27000.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905290519g4e67e30ej6798702d14520ca4@mail.gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<9963e56e0905291145h509b21d6jd2df16cd9c9ac193@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090529191227.GB5487@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:15:09AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Shall we revert it so that in.pycon.org comes back to the placeholder
> page? 

It should be your call, Noufal. :) 
But you have my +1 on reverting to placeholder.

>Anand should be able to do that easily.

Well, again; this is not a question on technical feasiblity. 
If you and Anand C think that the way it is now, is good. You may
reason out and perhaps we need to look at it in a different way.

-- 
Senthil

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 29 21:22:49 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:52:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <20090529191227.GB5487@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290508q484f78f7v676e0c1f93f16645@mail.gmail.com>
	<9963e56e0905290512k14ed7f1cl1c4c32edd6f07c5b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:15:09AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> Shall we revert it so that in.pycon.org comes back to the placeholder
>> page?
>
> It should be your call, Noufal. :)
> But you have my +1 on reverting to placeholder.

I'm eager to get the website done as quickly as possible since it's
the thing that almost all the other activities are dependent on
(publicity, CFP etc.). I don't want to delay it or get complacent.

Let's keep it as it is right now and finish off the issues with
Kenneth brought up. If we can get the whole thing up and running by
the middle of next week, the whole affair is suitably resolved. I'd
rather not take any steps backward.

It's late. I don't think many of the other chaps on the list are
nocturnal so we'll wait till tomorrow and discuss this.

Good night.

-- 
~noufal

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat May 30 05:26:25 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 08:56:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
Message-ID: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

1. Can all user folks who register on the site add a talk ?
http://greenchilly.in/addtalk/, lists all the names in the field
"Speaker(s)". This seems like a superfluous detail if I am going to
add my talk since i have already logged in.

can some on explain this ? apologies if this has been discussed
earlier but i am just catching up on inpycon mail.

2. Add/Edit volunteer : I see this in the menu after logging in. Is
this available for all (If so it should not be) or only admins to
edit?

-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat May 30 05:38:35 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:08:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <20090529181537.GD3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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	<20090529181537.GD3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:45, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) Let us test the site as Kenneth has requested us to do.
> 2) Anand Pillai had taken the task of informing David Goodger on
> changing the CNAME earlier and expressed a valid concern that we need
> to have something up before we make the change again.
>
> 3) I am still trying out the greenchilly.in site and I have couple of

just wanted to mention that when the user logs in via the
greenchilly.in site and later clicks on in.pycon.org it should resolve
to the latter and not make him/her login in again. this is not
relevant ATM, but is it possible in future?


> ? a) It seems slow from my home and I am seriously worried about

works ok for me

> ? b) It is not yet complete.. We will have to give a lot of test run
> on registration as ?user, delegate, admin and see that things are
> working.
> ? c) CSS stuffs. Giving them enough time to think and work out.

agree.

> 2) Let us do another face-to-face meeting for discussing the format

cant make the f2f from another city :) but if you folks decide to have
an irc meet i can chime in.


-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From parth.technofreak at gmail.com  Sat May 30 05:42:24 2009
From: parth.technofreak at gmail.com (Parthan SR)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 09:12:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <20090529174744.GB3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090529174744.GB3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <4A20AB20.1080801@gmail.com>

Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 09:53:09PM +0530, Ranganath s wrote:
>   
>>        I would like to take the initiative of being admin to the pycon site..
>>     
>
> Just saw this. Okay. No problem, but still I am there with additional
> pair of eyes, hands and a laptop.
>
>   
Actually two more as I was given admin rights a day ago. I will try to 
keep a pair of watchful eyes around.

-- 
With Regards,
Parthan SR "technofreak"

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 07:33:10 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:03:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905290606m1d961f94s578d465ad8b11c2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301103.10388.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 20:49:08 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > > Anand C.,
> > > ? Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
> > > 'live' in some sense.
>
> I just tried in.pycon.org . It says "FOSS Competency certification"
> in front page.

it is no point pointing the domain to the server unless I am informed and make 
the necessary changes.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 07:41:39 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:11:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference administration and website administration
In-Reply-To: <4A20AB20.1080801@gmail.com>
References: <77bb36840905290923k494eec02y5142cba48084275a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090529174744.GB3863@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<4A20AB20.1080801@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301111.39932.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 09:12:24 Parthan SR wrote:
> Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 09:53:09PM +0530, Ranganath s wrote:
> > ?
> >
> >> ? ? ? ?I would like to take the initiative of being admin to the pycon
> >> site.. 
> >
> > Just saw this. Okay. No problem, but still I am there with additional
> > pair of eyes, hands and a laptop.
> >
> > ?
>
> Actually two more as I was given admin rights a day ago. I will try to
> keep a pair of watchful eyes around.

the site is currently a 'toy' site for people to play around with. When we 
decide to go live, the database will be reset and everyone will have to 
register again. So just get familiar with the interface and ask if you have 
doubts. When the site goes live, 1-2 people will have superuser rights. Others 
will have admin rights depending on what tasks are allotted to them. For 
example I expect a fairly large number of people would get the right to make 
posts - things like accepting talks and scheduling talks would probably be 
restricted to a whichever committees are set up to deal with this.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 07:45:27 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:15:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
In-Reply-To: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 08:56:25 VidA wrote:
> 1. Can all user folks who register on the site add a talk ?
> http://greenchilly.in/addtalk/, lists all the names in the field
> "Speaker(s)". This seems like a superfluous detail if I am going to
> add my talk since i have already logged in.

any registered user can add a talk (actually means propose a talk). Since 
there may be multispeaker talks, the facility of adding other speakers is 
there. If you add a talk you *must* select your own name as a speaker and have 
the option of adding names of others too. 
>
> can some on explain this ? apologies if this has been discussed
> earlier but i am just catching up on inpycon mail.
>
> 2. Add/Edit volunteer : I see this in the menu after logging in. Is
> this available for all (If so it should not be) or only admins to
> edit?

anyone can volunteer. If one volunteers, one can then edit one's details.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 07:46:14 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:16:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905301103.10388.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<8548c5f30905290819o7e2ec799tdb89b204bcef9a19@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301103.10388.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905301116.14527.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 11:03:10 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Friday 29 May 2009 20:49:08 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > > > Anand C.,
> > > > ? Can you make the domain point to greenchilly.in so that we're
> > > > 'live' in some sense.
> >
> > I just tried in.pycon.org . It says "FOSS Competency certification"
> > in front page.
>
> it is no point pointing the domain to the server unless I am informed and
> make the necessary changes.

and it should anyway point to the IP address which I have given to ABP
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 07:51:48 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:21:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
In-Reply-To: <200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905301121.48659.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 11:15:27 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Saturday 30 May 2009 08:56:25 VidA wrote:
> > 1. Can all user folks who register on the site add a talk ?
> > http://greenchilly.in/addtalk/, lists all the names in the field
> > "Speaker(s)". This seems like a superfluous detail if I am going to
> > add my talk since i have already logged in.
>
> any registered user can add a talk (actually means propose a talk). Since
> there may be multispeaker talks, the facility of adding other speakers is
> there. If you add a talk you *must* select your own name as a speaker and
> have the option of adding names of others too.

but only the concerned committee members can accept a talk. I assume they will 
check the ratings, time available, quality of talk, status of speaker etc 
before accepting the talk.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat May 30 08:15:11 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:45:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
In-Reply-To: <200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <12470af00905292315y6c356827n5af837ffd917e0de@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:15, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
>
> any registered user can add a talk (actually means propose a talk). Since
> there may be multispeaker talks, the facility of adding other speakers is

as in, if 2 people want to present a single talk. Ok.

> there. If you add a talk you *must* select your own name as a speaker and have
> the option of adding names of others too.

ok, but this is still confusing as its not clear what one is supposed
to do. The dark blue colour makes it seem like all the names listed
are selected.  that usability aspect is the confusing part.
Maybe you could have a small note "select your name here" to explain this.

OR just keep the field empty and keep a note: If more than one person
is presenting this talk, please list them all as in this Example.
"$name1, $name2,...".  What if the list grows to say a 100 people
which makes crawling through it cumbersome.

>> 2. Add/Edit volunteer : I see this in the menu after logging in. Is
>> this available for all (If so it should not be) or only admins to
>> edit?
>
> anyone can volunteer. If one volunteers, one can then edit one's details.

volunteer for what? that is not clear. If this is empty most folks
will not know what tasks organisers need help with. Also if user lists
his/her skills there how will you track it as an organiser? I am
assuming you intend to sort this manually.

Instead I'd suggest having a "HELP US" section which can list the
activities that need help. This will make it easy for the organisers
to track TODO tasks. Ideally after logging in one should be able to go
there, click on the "i volunteer" button next to foo-task listed there
and the system automatically generates availability of 'X' volunteers
for 'FOO' task who could probably be mailed or just grouped together.

If the suggestion needs too much coding work feel free to ignore it :)
-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat May 30 08:26:15 2009
From: vid at svaksha.com (VidA)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 11:56:15 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] electronic signage
In-Reply-To: <4335d2c40905290913u218a09adm229236403392e041@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4335d2c40905290913u218a09adm229236403392e041@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12470af00905292326o759d0605y66ec58db89b83e55@mail.gmail.com>

here is another nice suggestion...
Disclaimer: I dont know what facilities IISc halls have but this may
be a nice future feature to implement, if possible.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
(was "Re: [PyCon-Organizers] 2009 Survey Results")

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:51, Dan Callahan <dan.callahan at gmail.com> wrote:
> We should use what we already have: The talks take place in rooms with
> projectors. There's downtime between talks. Instead of leaving the
> screen empty in those moments, why don't we display a dynamic "What's
> next, and where?" page / slide / video feed? It'd also be a reasonable
> way to get general notices out to the attendees, and could be shown
> persistently on a display near the registration desk, for instance.

That's a good idea, one that has been discussed in the past. The
problem is implementation. What is needed in terms of hardware,
software, networking, etc.?

Would you volunteer to work on implementing it? Anybody?

--
David Goodger <http://python.net/~goodger>
_______________________________________________

-- 
thanks
|| vid || http://www.svaksha.com ||

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 08:38:57 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:08:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers]  PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <dd2dde450905290109p28580a4cme99db27549257eb5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905281021i68a0ab5dj99fc681c42227776@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd2dde450905290109p28580a4cme99db27549257eb5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301208.57390.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 13:39:47 Bharath Keshav wrote:
> Cool. I need fiddle a bit with the logo before we get anything printed, as
> the gradiation and the color won't come up exactly the same when we get it
> printed. Let me know before we print it on anything.

I have put the logo up on the site, but even giving it a width of 150 pixels 
the word 'INDIA' is not clear to me. At smaller sizes I cannot read it at all 
(or maybe my eyesight is not all that good)
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 30 08:47:17 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:17:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <200905301208.57390.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9963e56e0905281021i68a0ab5dj99fc681c42227776@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd2dde450905290109p28580a4cme99db27549257eb5@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301208.57390.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905292347x70b12442t5bedcd040142ab7c@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Friday 29 May 2009 13:39:47 Bharath Keshav wrote:
>> Cool. I need fiddle a bit with the logo before we get anything printed, as
>> the gradiation and the color won't come up exactly the same when we get it
>> printed. Let me know before we print it on anything.
>
> I have put the logo up on the site, but even giving it a width of 150 pixels
> the word 'INDIA' is not clear to me. At smaller sizes I cannot read it at all
> (or maybe my eyesight is not all that good)

I personally didn't vote for the design because I felt that the detail
was too much for smaller sizes  (eg. on the site). If Sree can
squeeze/scale it a little to make it look nice on the site, it would
be great. If that doesn't work, you might want to consider using the
runner up in our logo contest.


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 08:58:37 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:28:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] PyCon Logo decision
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905292347x70b12442t5bedcd040142ab7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <127482.61605.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200905301208.57390.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905292347x70b12442t5bedcd040142ab7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301228.37864.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 12:17:17 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > I have put the logo up on the site, but even giving it a width of 150
> > pixels the word 'INDIA' is not clear to me. At smaller sizes I cannot
> > read it at all (or maybe my eyesight is not all that good)
>
> I personally didn't vote for the design because I felt that the detail
> was too much for smaller sizes ?(eg. on the site). If Sree can
> squeeze/scale it a little to make it look nice on the site, it would
> be great. If that doesn't work, you might want to consider using the
> runner up in our logo contest.

the INDIA lettering could be made a little bigger and clearer. Othewise it is 
ok. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 09:07:04 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:37:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905301237.05061.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 14:51:45 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> am starting a new thread for announcing new features in the website. This
> thread can also be used for feature requests.

how the website works:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/HowFossConfWorks
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 09:33:36 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:03:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Friday 29 May 2009 14:51:45 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> am starting a new thread for announcing new features in the website. This
> thread can also be used for feature requests.

added site navigation static page:

http://greenchilly.in/staticpage/2/
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 09:58:31 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:28:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] call for participation and call for papers
Message-ID: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

Hi,

who is drafting the above? when can we see something on the wiki?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat May 30 10:11:00 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:41:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
In-Reply-To: <200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <20090530081100.GA4758@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:15:27AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> 
> any registered user can add a talk (actually means propose a talk). Since 
> there may be multispeaker talks, the facility of adding other speakers is 
> there. If you add a talk you *must* select your own name as a speaker and have 
> the option of adding names of others too. 

This is odd way of doing things. I can abuse the system, if I want to.
I can suggest a talk and add your name to it with your permission.

Why dont we simplify things a bit.

1) Add talk link.
2) Instead of the selecting the users from the list, just give an
option to add additional username.

-- 
Senthil


From anandology at gmail.com  Sat May 30 09:57:33 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:27:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>

Can the website be rooted at http://in.pycon.org/2009/ instead of
http://in.pycon.org/ ?
I think it is important to have the permalinks so that people can
visit previous conference pages in future.

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 30 11:11:50 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:41:50 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] call for participation and call for papers
In-Reply-To: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905300211p675313d5ncb93c9131a6cef3d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> who is drafting the above? when can we see something on the wiki?

I have harvested some stuff from some of the other PyCon pages and
created a stub page at
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaCallForProposals

Trilok,
   Can you take this up? If you can flesh out the skeleton page over
there, we can all make modifications and give it to Kenneth to put on
the main site.

Thanks

[..]


-- 
~noufal

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 12:52:16 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:22:16 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] call for participation and call for papers
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905300211p675313d5ncb93c9131a6cef3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905300211p675313d5ncb93c9131a6cef3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200905301622.16699.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 14:41:50 Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> 
wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > who is drafting the above? when can we see something on the wiki?
>
> I have harvested some stuff from some of the other PyCon pages and
> created a stub page at
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndiaCallForProposals

why don't you try to put it on the site? Go to admin, click on staticpage add. 
Copy and pasted the matter on the wiki into the 'matter' text input. Click the 
little green '+' next to the menu select and add the name 'call for papers'. 
Select that and click save. A new menu with this content will appear. To 
update, just paste the latest version from the wiki into the matter text input 
and save. I am sure you will feel happier about adminning after you do this.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May 30 13:09:42 2009
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:39:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] menus and superfluous details while adding talks
In-Reply-To: <20090530081100.GA4758@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <12470af00905292026o18b8ff10l544e43d221a5e2ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301115.27882.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<20090530081100.GA4758@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <200905301639.42262.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:41:00 Senthil Kumaran wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:15:27AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > any registered user can add a talk (actually means propose a talk). Since
> > there may be multispeaker talks, the facility of adding other speakers is
> > there. If you add a talk you *must* select your own name as a speaker and
> > have the option of adding names of others too.
>
> This is odd way of doing things. I can abuse the system, if I want to.

people who want to can abuse any system ;-)
> I can suggest a talk and add your name to it with your permission.
>
> Why dont we simplify things a bit.
>
> 1) Add talk link.
> 2) Instead of the selecting the users from the list, just give an
> option to add additional username.

Actually there are several ways to solve the problem. The first thing to do is 
to define the problem. What is stored in the talk object is among other things, 
a set of delegate objects who are the speakers. Obviously those delegate 
objects must exist. So if several people want to give a joint talk, the only 
way to achieve this is:

1. All the proposed speakers must register as delegates
2. The proposed delegates must be added to the talk as speakers
3. The added speakers must have the same rights as the original speaker.

Again the best person to add the others would be the person who first proposes 
the talk. He has to select existing delegates. If he just puts their names 
there, a lot of code has to be written to convert the name to an existing 
delegate object, and there is no guarantee that the correct object will be 
selected as spelling may vary.

I do not know the current situation, but fossconf in 2008 was the first OSS 
conference in India that managed to solve the problem of multiple speakers for 
a given talk. Most of the other conferences are still struggling with this and 
usually the solution is - 'put the names there and the admins will sort it 
out'. And 'only the original proposer can edit the details'.

btw, in fossconf 2008, there were about 1000 delegates and around 120 
speakers, many multiple speaker talks, and not one case of abuse.

Of course we are open to better ways of doing this if they exist.

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 30 14:49:48 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 18:19:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] call for participation and call for papers
In-Reply-To: <200905301622.16699.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905300211p675313d5ncb93c9131a6cef3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301622.16699.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905300549w30259a0ao990c95c92de5e52b@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
[..]
> why don't you try to put it on the site? Go to admin, click on staticpage add.
> Copy and pasted the matter on the wiki into the 'matter' text input. Click the
> little green '+' next to the menu select and add the name 'call for papers'.
> Select that and click save. A new menu with this content will appear. To
> update, just paste the latest version from the wiki into the matter text input
> and save. I am sure you will feel happier about adminning after you do this.


I tried to reset my password but I got an error. Can you see if it's
working? I clicked on the 'forgot my password' link and entered my
email address and clicked "Reset my password". It crashed on me with a
template error. Also, if I've made a mistake in my password, it
doesn't say so. Just redisplays the login page.

I feel that it's a tad slow. How is this application deployed?

The actual addition of the page went like a breeze. I the actual
admins will not really have any usability issues.

We really need some more CSS love though. How's that effort coming along?






-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 30 15:05:40 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 18:35:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] call for participation and call for papers
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905300549w30259a0ao990c95c92de5e52b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905301328.31482.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905300211p675313d5ncb93c9131a6cef3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<200905301622.16699.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<9963e56e0905300549w30259a0ao990c95c92de5e52b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905300605w33f7905amf0705242046bd231@mail.gmail.com>

BTW, A little question. Is it possible to make hierarchical static
pages? Categories or something like that? It might look clumsy if we
have too many pages on a single navigation bar.



-- 
~noufal

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat May 30 12:25:08 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:55:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 01:27:33PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
> Can the website be rooted at http://in.pycon.org/2009/ instead of
> http://in.pycon.org/ ?
> I think it is important to have the permalinks so that people can
> visit previous conference pages in future.

Yes sure, but should be next year.. :)
Why now?

-- 
Senthil



From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 30 15:08:46 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 18:38:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905300608x181ea0ebo51f83a5165d13bed@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 01:27:33PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> Can the website be rooted at http://in.pycon.org/2009/ instead of
>> http://in.pycon.org/ ?
>> I think it is important to have the permalinks so that people can
>> visit previous conference pages in future.
>
> Yes sure, but should be next year.. :)
> Why now?
>

I think it is a good idea to say in.pycon.org/2009 rather than just
in.pycon.org. We can put a redirect on the front page to go to /2009
for this year and 2010 for next year.

-- 
~noufal

From croozeus at yahoo.com  Sat May 30 15:12:10 2009
From: croozeus at yahoo.com (Pankaj Nathani)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 06:12:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905300608x181ea0ebo51f83a5165d13bed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905300608x181ea0ebo51f83a5165d13bed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <299306.5743.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just found some time to register at the site.

Clicked Register -> Enter username and email address -> and I get an error page quoted below.


SMTPAuthenticationError at /register/
(535, '5.7.8 Error: authentication failed:')
Request Method:POST 
Request URL:http://in.pycon.org/register/ 
Exception Type:SMTPAuthenticationError 
Exception Value:(535, '5.7.8 Error: authentication failed:') 
Exception Location:/usr/lib/python2.5/smtplib.py in login, line 591 
Python Executable:/usr/bin/python 
Python Version:2.5.2 
Python Path:['/home/pycon/', '/home/dtc/dtcproject/env/lib/python2.5/site-packages/', '/home/pycon/conference/', '/usr/lib/python2.5', '/usr/lib/python2.5/plat-linux2', '/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-tk', '/usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages', '/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PIL', '/var/lib/python-support/python2.5'] 
Server time:Sat, 30 May 2009 18:40:06 +0530 



________________________________
From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:38:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] website features

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 01:27:33PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>> Can the website be rooted at http://in.pycon.org/2009/ instead of
>> http://in.pycon.org/ ?
>> I think it is important to have the permalinks so that people can
>> visit previous conference pages in future.
>
> Yes sure, but should be next year.. :)
> Why now?
>

I think it is a good idea to say in.pycon.org/2009 rather than just
in.pycon.org. We can put a redirect on the front page to go to /2009
for this year and 2010 for next year.

-- 
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From anandology at gmail.com  Sat May 30 15:27:26 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 18:57:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org> 
	<41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905300627k17ad1e52qced64deee3abbd46@mail.gmail.com>

> Yes sure, but should be next year.. :)
> Why now?

Otherwise current links will break after one year.

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:27:47 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:57:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website bugs
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

     I see a long list of website issues being posted to this
list. The thing that concerns me is would Kenneth and his
team be able to track everything via this mailing list ?

A mailing list is not meant for posting and following up
such issues. It can at best be used as a discussion forum
. I don't think it is a good idea to continue posting issues
to the list.

Can a Trac or similar issue tracker be added to the site
quickly to take care of this ? Otherwise, we could simply
create a google code project and use it only to track
issues without using it to manage the code.

Of course, the negative of this is that this can become
a mini project of its own and we could get side-tracked
and lose focus. However considering the amount of issues
being reported, this seems to be happening someway in
the mailing list itself.

We need to iron out all major issues with the website and
templates/CSS etc within 2-3 weeks max and open it
up by June end at least. Otherwise we could get derailed.

If not a tracker, at least a progress report should be maintained
somewhere which lists all issues and its criticality, status etc.
It could even be a Wiki on the python.org site.

However without tracking these issues, I don't see we are
going anywhere.

Regards,

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From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:34:14 2009
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:04:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Error while logging out admin
Message-ID: <8548c5f30905302334x306645c7rb8d0a70c550d5c3c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

   I logging in with admin privileges and get this
error while logging out.

Page not found (404) Request Method: GET  Request URL:
http://greenchilly.in/admin/admin/logout/

And a long traceback from Django.

Kenneth, something needs to be done to take care of errors
gracefully without the default action of the Python traceback
being printed. How does typical Django sites take care of this?
I would think that they would have specific error templates
for handing most web page errors.

There is one more error when I try to log out from
http://greenchilly.in/admin/sites/site/admin/logout/ .

ValueError at /admin/sites/site/admin/logout/

invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'admin/logout'

Request Method: GET

However these are admin errors and not priority since they
don't directly affect user experience. Still I am reporting it.

Anyway, the error management should be more graceful
than now, since tracebacks are being printed for user
level errors also.

Regards,

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From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:37:18 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:07:18 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website bugs
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905302337o3701a8c8taa775369a8edb02d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> We need to iron out all major issues with the website and
> templates/CSS etc within 2-3 weeks max and open it
> up by June end at least. Otherwise we could get derailed.
[..]

That's too late. We need to get this thing out in early June. If it's
ready only by early July, we'll have just 2 month (July and August) to
take care of sponsorships, CFPs and other logistics. I think that will
be too tight.

Without the site, we can't do any publicity or call for CFPs and
that's why I'm pushing for it.

I assume that Kenneth and his team is harvesting the bug reports from
the mailing list and keeping track of them.

I suggest that we put a deadline (say 7th June) and then if the site
is not completely functional and ready for release by then, we fall
back to using a bunch of static pages and an authenticated wiki
(similar to the PyCon UK site). It will be a little more work but
things will move. As for the registration, we can develop a tiny app
which shoves user information into a database and keeps a list so that
we can use it to charge only early bird fees for the people who
register early. Talk scheduling and stuff must be handled manually
(and I don't think it will be *that* hard).

Opinions?


-- 
~noufal

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:39:03 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:09:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Error while logging out admin
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905302334x306645c7rb8d0a70c550d5c3c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302334x306645c7rb8d0a70c550d5c3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905302339s15b0eafnef4092a48da455a7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Kenneth, something needs to be done to take care of errors
> gracefully without the default action of the Python traceback
> being printed. How does typical Django sites take care of this?
> I would think that they would have specific error templates
> for handing most web page errors.

I think it's running in 'development' mode and so prints tracebacks
and application innards. In production mode, it'll probably show an
HTTP Error 500 or something like that.

-- 
~noufal

From parth.technofreak at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:41:43 2009
From: parth.technofreak at gmail.com (Parthan SR)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:11:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website bugs
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2226A7.1060509@gmail.com>

Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> Can a Trac or similar issue tracker be added to the site
> quickly to take care of this ? Otherwise, we could simply
> create a google code project and use it only to track
> issues without using it to manage the code.
>
+ 1. I remember there was a Trac site when it was used for FossConf firs 
time. If it is available, we can use it. Else a new Trac site can be put 
up which can be both used to report bugs as well as tracking development 
and  future todos.

-- 
With Regards,
Parthan SR "technofreak"

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From parth.technofreak at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:50:39 2009
From: parth.technofreak at gmail.com (Parthan SR)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:20:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Error while logging out admin
In-Reply-To: <8548c5f30905302334x306645c7rb8d0a70c550d5c3c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302334x306645c7rb8d0a70c550d5c3c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2228BF.8020102@gmail.com>

Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>
>
> Kenneth, something needs to be done to take care of errors
> gracefully without the default action of the Python traceback
> being printed. How does typical Django sites take care of this?
> I would think that they would have specific error templates
> for handing most web page errors.
>
> There is one more error when I try to log out from
> http://greenchilly.in/admin/sites/site/admin/logout/ .
>

I too have been facing this error. I think the Debug mode has been set 
to True so that bugs product Tracebacks, like the one you we see when 
logging out. This might be because it is in development mode currently 
for people to test and report bugs, and hopefully will be turned off 
when going live.

And yes, Django allows you to have custom error templates so that you 
can handle errors more gracefully. This is done by having a custom 
template dir and overriding default error templates using the custom 
templates placed in this. Am sure Kenneth knows about it, may be someone 
can volunteer and write some custom error templates with InPyCon logo 
and some nice error message ;)

-- 
With Regards,
Parthan SR "technofreak"

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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sun May 31 08:53:00 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:23:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] website features
In-Reply-To: <299306.5743.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <200905291451.45316.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<200905301303.36139.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<41139fcb0905300057t2751e072q29f3af4375cbf718@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090530102508.GA3995@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905300608x181ea0ebo51f83a5165d13bed@mail.gmail.com>
	<299306.5743.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090531065300.GB4061@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 06:12:10AM -0700, Pankaj Nathani wrote:
> I just found some time to register at the site.
> 
> Clicked Register -> Enter username and email address -> and I get an error page
> quoted below.
> 
> 
> 
> SMTPAuthenticationError at /register/
> 
> (535, '5.7.8 Error:
>  authentication failed:')

I have not been able to reproduce this bug.
Pankaj can you reproduce this one consistenly or it was any a special
situation.

-- 
Senthil



From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sun May 31 09:05:12 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:35:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] fossconf-devel - reporting bugs
Message-ID: <20090531070512.GC4061@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

Folks,

Here is a suggestion, please use inpycon list for discussing PyCon
related discussions.

Report bugs at:

http://groups.google.com/group/fossconf-devel

Also, there was a discussion on stability of the software and
consideration for alternatives.

My opinion is, fossconf is stable enough.. Just go ahead, test it,
raise and fix bugs ( which would be done quickly) and lets use it.
I dont see any reason why it should not be up for our use by June 7th.

Also fossconf was used for an earlier conference, so it should make us
worry.

Thanks,
Senthil

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 31 09:08:36 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:38:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] fossconf-devel - reporting bugs
In-Reply-To: <20090531070512.GC4061@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
References: <20090531070512.GC4061@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905310008j2e0c4910hcc2dafd5516763c2@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> My opinion is, fossconf is stable enough.. Just go ahead, test it,
> raise and fix bugs ( which would be done quickly) and lets use it.
> I dont see any reason why it should not be up for our use by June 7th.

Neither do I. PyCon India is (atleast as of now) a smaller event than
FOSSConf so it should be fine. However, I'd feel safer with a backup
plan and would like to stick to a deadline. Otherwise, we'd keep fine
tuning and fixing the last 5% of the site for a prohibitively long
time.

Kenneth,
   Are you fine with this? Your estimates will be more accurate than
my off the cuff date.

> Also fossconf was used for an earlier conference, so it should make us
> worry.

You did mean 'it should *not* make us worry' did you not? :)

-- 
~noufal

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sun May 31 09:18:12 2009
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] fossconf-devel - reporting bugs
In-Reply-To: <9963e56e0905310008j2e0c4910hcc2dafd5516763c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090531070512.GC4061@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>
	<9963e56e0905310008j2e0c4910hcc2dafd5516763c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090531071812.GA5062@ubuntu.ubuntu-domain>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:38:36PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> 
> You did mean 'it should *not* make us worry' did you not? :)
> 

Yup. I making these kind of mistakes often. :)

-- 
Senthil

From anandology at gmail.com  Sun May 31 12:40:39 2009
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:10:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website bugs
In-Reply-To: <4A2226A7.1060509@gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A2226A7.1060509@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41139fcb0905310340i4953f2d2k36621ffebe65861d@mail.gmail.com>

>> Can a Trac or similar issue tracker be added to the site
>> quickly to take care of this ? Otherwise, we could simply
>> create a google code project and use it only to track
>> issues without using it to manage the code.
>>
> + 1. I remember there was a Trac site when it was used for FossConf firs
> time. If it is available, we can use it. Else a new Trac site can be put up
> which can be both used to report bugs as well as tracking development and
> ?future todos.

or use launchpad.net.

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 31 12:43:07 2009
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:13:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Website bugs
In-Reply-To: <41139fcb0905310340i4953f2d2k36621ffebe65861d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8548c5f30905302327x7303832fm88cd63c8b64aa98d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2226A7.1060509@gmail.com>
	<41139fcb0905310340i4953f2d2k36621ffebe65861d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9963e56e0905310343p2a7bca83kf077d894e5fbc7b7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> or use launchpad.net.

Or if all that is hairy to setup/use, atleast a page on the wiki. The
important thing is that nothing reported/seen fall between the cracks.

-- 
~noufal