From zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch  Sat May  1 02:16:29 2004
From: zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch (Richard Jennings)
Date: Sat May  1 02:13:11 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] First time with PIL
Message-ID: <200405010816.29287.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>

Hi,

I have been using python for sometime and am ecstatic about it.
I tried to use PIL for the first time today and I can't get past base 1:

Python 2.2 & PIL 1.1.3 on SusE 8.2

My first script was:

import Image

def center(orImagePath):
    im = Image.open(orImagePath)
    new = im.copy()
    im.save('result.png')

if __name__ == '__main__':
    center('oliverLSig.png')

and generated the error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./magicTest.py", line 13, in ?
    center('oliverLSig.png')
  File "./magicTest.py", line 9, in center
    new = im.copy()
  File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 497, in copy
    self.load()
  File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/ImageFile.py", line 166, in load
    raise IOError, "decoder error %d when reading image file" % e
IOError: decoder error -3 when reading image file

Other applications can read the .png
I have confirmed that ZLIB and JPEG libs are installed.
I don't know where to start to debug this, can anybody help, please?

TIA

From fredrik at pythonware.com  Sun May  2 10:21:14 2004
From: fredrik at pythonware.com (Fredrik Lundh)
Date: Sun May  2 10:20:52 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Re: First time with PIL
References: <200405010816.29287.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
Message-ID: <c7303r$u49$1@sea.gmane.org>

Richard Jennings wrote:

> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./magicTest.py", line 13, in ?
>     center('oliverLSig.png')
>   File "./magicTest.py", line 9, in center
>     new = im.copy()
>   File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 497, in copy
>     self.load()
>   File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/ImageFile.py", line 166, in load
>     raise IOError, "decoder error %d when reading image file" % e
> IOError: decoder error -3 when reading image file

when in doubt, google can often explain what an error message means.
here's the first hit:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/image-sig/2003-October/002485.html

</F>




From wase_ahmed at yahoo.com  Thu May  6 03:56:34 2004
From: wase_ahmed at yahoo.com (wasim ahmed)
Date: Thu May  6 03:56:38 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Request for help in  converting image segment to text
Message-ID: <20040506075634.96355.qmail@web50805.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello sir.
    i am a student doing a project on image
processing. 

    we found ur solution to convert an image into
numarray while browsing ... we are stuck with a
smillar problem we appereciate ur help if you can help
us solving our problmen...
  our problem is something like this. we have a jpeg
file which contains photograph of the person and his
name written below(ie., in the same .jpeg file) . we
need to extract the name from the .jpeg file as a
string and put that in a database .
please do reply as early as posible, even if u dont
know, please help us by suggesting some book or web
address or any other way.
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From zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch  Thu May  6 06:28:56 2004
From: zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch (Richard Jennings)
Date: Thu May  6 06:25:44 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] version maze
Message-ID: <200405061228.56960.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>

Hi,

I have been using Python 2.2 & PIL 1.1.3 on SusE 8.2 to develop a solution for 
an application and it works fine. However, this app. needs to run in the Zope 
environment (Zope 2.6.1 & Python 2.1.3).

SuSE8.2 seems determined to install PIL in python2.2/site-packages and I have 
not found a means of getting it to install PIL in python2.1/site-packages.
Worse, although my default 'python' is 2.1, when my code imports 'Image' it 
finds the 2.2 version, the result is:

File "./overTest.py", line 48, in ?
    overlayUpdate(sys.argv[1], pos)
  File "./overTest.py", line 19, in overlayUpdate
    overlay = Image.open(OVERLAY_FILE)
  File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 977, in open
    preinit()
  File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 192, in preinit
    __import__("%sImagePlugin" % m, globals(), locals(), [])
  File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/BmpImagePlugin.py", line 28, in 
?
    import Image, ImageFile, ImagePalette
  File "/opt/zope/lib/python/ImageFile.py", line 25, in ?
    from App.ImageFile import ImageFile
  File "/opt/zope/lib/python/App/ImageFile.py", line 17, in ?
    from OFS.content_types import guess_content_type
  File "/opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/content_types.py", line 16, in ?
    import re, mimetypes
  File "/usr/lib/python/re.py", line 28, in ?
    from sre import *
  File "/usr/lib/python/sre.py", line 17, in ?
    import sre_compile
  File "/usr/lib/python/sre_compile.py", line 15, in ?
    assert _sre.MAGIC == MAGIC, "SRE module mismatch"

The 'bad magic', I guess, is because of the incompatible python versions 
required by zope (zope 2.6.1 is reputed to run under python 2.2.2, but I 
don't know how stable this would be).

I do not want to jeopardise my zope installation.

My question: would a manual installation of PIL in the python2.1/site-packages 
work or would I damage something by this installation?

I googled but not found anything which helps me resolve this dilemma.

please help,
TIA



From john.pierro at abaqus.com  Thu May  6 07:23:27 2004
From: john.pierro at abaqus.com (John Pierro)
Date: Thu May  6 07:23:37 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] XPM format
Message-ID: <20040506112326.CF1FC24ADA1@gimli.hks.com>

Are there any plans to add write support for XPM images?

John Pierro


From andy at andybak.net  Thu May  6 09:03:44 2004
From: andy at andybak.net (Andy Baker)
Date: Thu May  6 09:03:48 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Greetings and a question on loading PSD's
Message-ID: <E1BLiXN-0007PA-00@uranium.btinternet.com>

Hello to everyone on the list. I am fairly new to Python and am hacking
around in the code for Cornice (http://wxglade.sf.net/extra/cornice.html) as
I have despaired of finding an image viewer that does what I want.

The first thing to tackle is the Photoshop file support. The PSD plugin for
PIL seems to balk at Photoshop 4 format and above. I have played around and
discovered that it fails in the _layerinfo method. Now I don't need to read
layers so I commented out the code and returned an empty layers list
instead. The code now will happily load Photoshop images.

I assume for this to work PSD files will need Photoshop's option to save a
composite version along with the layers selected but I always leave this on
anyhow.

I have found documentation for the Photoshop 4 format here:

http://www.csdn.net/Dev/Format/graphics/PSD.pdf

Is there any more recent documentation of the PSD format around?

Am I using my time wisely working on this? Has anyone looked at fixing PSD
support in PIL recently and do the maintainers of PIL hang out here?

I have never worked on parsing binary formats before so this is likely to be
a laborious process!

Cheers,

Andy Baker


From chris at cogdon.org  Thu May  6 11:18:32 2004
From: chris at cogdon.org (Chris Cogdon)
Date: Thu May  6 11:18:41 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] version maze
In-Reply-To: <200405061228.56960.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
References: <200405061228.56960.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
Message-ID: <A31DD7DA-9F70-11D8-BED1-000A95E3823E@cogdon.org>


On May 6, 2004, at 03:28, Richard Jennings wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been using Python 2.2 & PIL 1.1.3 on SusE 8.2 to develop a 
> solution for
> an application and it works fine. However, this app. needs to run in 
> the Zope
> environment (Zope 2.6.1 & Python 2.1.3).
>
> SuSE8.2 seems determined to install PIL in python2.2/site-packages and 
> I have
> not found a means of getting it to install PIL in 
> python2.1/site-packages.
> Worse, although my default 'python' is 2.1, when my code imports 
> 'Image' it
> finds the 2.2 version, the result is:
>
> File "./overTest.py", line 48, in ?
>     overlayUpdate(sys.argv[1], pos)
>   File "./overTest.py", line 19, in overlayUpdate
>     overlay = Image.open(OVERLAY_FILE)
>   File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 977, in 
> open
>     preinit()
>   File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 192, in 
> preinit
>     __import__("%sImagePlugin" % m, globals(), locals(), [])
>   File "//usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/BmpImagePlugin.py", line 
> 28, in
> ?
>     import Image, ImageFile, ImagePalette
>   File "/opt/zope/lib/python/ImageFile.py", line 25, in ?
>     from App.ImageFile import ImageFile
>   File "/opt/zope/lib/python/App/ImageFile.py", line 17, in ?
>     from OFS.content_types import guess_content_type
>   File "/opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/content_types.py", line 16, in ?
>     import re, mimetypes
>   File "/usr/lib/python/re.py", line 28, in ?
>     from sre import *
>   File "/usr/lib/python/sre.py", line 17, in ?
>     import sre_compile
>   File "/usr/lib/python/sre_compile.py", line 15, in ?
>     assert _sre.MAGIC == MAGIC, "SRE module mismatch"
>
> The 'bad magic', I guess, is because of the incompatible python 
> versions
> required by zope (zope 2.6.1 is reputed to run under python 2.2.2, but 
> I
> don't know how stable this would be).
>
> I do not want to jeopardise my zope installation.
>
> My question: would a manual installation of PIL in the 
> python2.1/site-packages
> work or would I damage something by this installation?
>
> I googled but not found anything which helps me resolve this dilemma.

The manual installation should work fine. You need to make sure that 
when you run the 'setup' procedure, that you run it using the SAME 
version of python that you intend to run in the production environment, 
and, of course, install it into the appropriate lib directory.


-- 
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From chris at cogdon.org  Thu May  6 15:36:31 2004
From: chris at cogdon.org (Chris Cogdon)
Date: Thu May  6 15:36:44 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] version maze
In-Reply-To: <200405062129.08080.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
References: <200405061228.56960.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
	<A31DD7DA-9F70-11D8-BED1-000A95E3823E@cogdon.org>
	<200405062129.08080.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
Message-ID: <AD0A09B2-9F94-11D8-BED1-000A95E3823E@cogdon.org>


On May 6, 2004, at 12:29, Richard Jennings wrote:

> Since I had to do a manual install, I decided to go for 1.1.4.
> during the build I got a warning:
>
> Tk/tkImaging.c:198: warning: passing arg 3 of `Tcl_CreateCommand' from
> incompatible pointer type

I think the warning can be ignored.

> otherwise everything went well, but when I try to use PIL:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "./overTest.py", line 48, in ?
>     overlayUpdate(sys.argv[1], pos)
>   File "./overTest.py", line 19, in overlayUpdate
>     overlay = Image.open(OVERLAY_FILE)
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 1549, in 
> open
>     preinit()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 243, in 
> preinit
>     __import__("%sImagePlugin" % m, globals(), locals(), [])
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/GifImagePlugin.py", line 
> 53, in ?
>     class GifImageFile(ImageFile.ImageFile):
> AttributeError: 'ImageFile' module has no attribute 'ImageFile'
>
> I don't understand why GIFImagePlugin.py is involved but in any case 
> it's hard
> to the see the connection with the compile warning.

I don't think they're related at all.

>  Also, the ImageFile
> module does have an ImageFile attribute!
>
> I found: [Image-SIG] Re: Compile errors May 31 2003
> which talks about hacking Tk code - Ahhhhh, I'm a novice AND I'm not 
> convinced
> this will solve my problem.  A year has passed since the posting - is 
> there
> an easier solution anybody? Can somebody throw more light on the issue?

Well, you didn't mail the mailing list... so you might want to re-post 
the issue there. I don't think it's related to Tk in any way, though.

I *DID find something that is related by doing a google search on 
"AttributeError: 'ImageFile' module has no attribute 'ImageFile'"

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-April/134726.html

So... instead of doing:

import Image

try doing:

from PIL import Image


I don't know why that would work while the first would not... but... it 
seems to have worked for someone else. It's possible that the python 
built into Zope is doing something funky with modules.

You might also want to try a piece of stand-alone code, without Zope, 
and see if that works.


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From zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch  Thu May  6 17:08:22 2004
From: zaphod.beeblebrox at freesurf.ch (Richard Jennings)
Date: Thu May  6 17:05:28 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] version maze
In-Reply-To: <AD0A09B2-9F94-11D8-BED1-000A95E3823E@cogdon.org>
References: <200405061228.56960.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
	<200405062129.08080.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>
	<AD0A09B2-9F94-11D8-BED1-000A95E3823E@cogdon.org>
Message-ID: <200405062308.22099.zaphod.beeblebrox@freesurf.ch>

On Thursday 06 May 2004 21:36, you wrote:
> On May 6, 2004, at 12:29, Richard Jennings wrote:
> > Since I had to do a manual install, I decided to go for 1.1.4.
> > during the build I got a warning:
> >
> > Tk/tkImaging.c:198: warning: passing arg 3 of `Tcl_CreateCommand' from
> > incompatible pointer type
>
> I think the warning can be ignored.
>
> > otherwise everything went well, but when I try to use PIL:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "./overTest.py", line 48, in ?
> >     overlayUpdate(sys.argv[1], pos)
> >   File "./overTest.py", line 19, in overlayUpdate
> >     overlay = Image.open(OVERLAY_FILE)
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 1549, in
> > open
> >     preinit()
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 243, in
> > preinit
> >     __import__("%sImagePlugin" % m, globals(), locals(), [])
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL/GifImagePlugin.py", line
> > 53, in ?
> >     class GifImageFile(ImageFile.ImageFile):
> > AttributeError: 'ImageFile' module has no attribute 'ImageFile'
> >
> > I don't understand why GIFImagePlugin.py is involved but in any case
> > it's hard
> > to the see the connection with the compile warning.
>
> I don't think they're related at all.
>
> >  Also, the ImageFile
> > module does have an ImageFile attribute!
> >
> > I found: [Image-SIG] Re: Compile errors May 31 2003
> > which talks about hacking Tk code - Ahhhhh, I'm a novice AND I'm not
> > convinced
> > this will solve my problem.  A year has passed since the posting - is
> > there
> > an easier solution anybody? Can somebody throw more light on the issue?
>
> Well, you didn't mail the mailing list... so you might want to re-post
> the issue there. I don't think it's related to Tk in any way, though.
>
> I *DID find something that is related by doing a google search on
> "AttributeError: 'ImageFile' module has no attribute 'ImageFile'"
>
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-April/134726.html
>
> So... instead of doing:
>
> import Image
>
> try doing:
>
> from PIL import Image
>
>
> I don't know why that would work while the first would not... but... it
> seems to have worked for someone else. It's possible that the python
> built into Zope is doing something funky with modules.
>
> You might also want to try a piece of stand-alone code, without Zope,
> and see if that works.

Sorry about the cc oversight.
Thanks, it works in stand-alone code.  I'll try it with zope shortly.


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From: virusguard at fi.fujitsu.com (virusguard@fi.fujitsu.com)
Date: Fri May  7 04:49:07 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Network Associates Webshield -  e-mail Content Alert
Message-ID: <200405070849.i478n0RR004068@harmaja.edelkey.net>

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From kent at springfed.com  Sat May  8 08:42:22 2004
From: kent at springfed.com (Kent Tenney)
Date: Sat May  8 08:47:43 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Question about creating transparent backgrounds
Message-ID: <409CD5AE.3010200@springfed.com>

Howdy,

I'm putting together a class to make
text buttons. The next feature I'd like
is having a transparent background.

I'm having trouble understanding the documentation
regarding transparency, it would help me to
see an example of creating an image and putting
text on it, having the background transparent,
for gif and png.

It would be great if someone could point
me towards such example code.

Thanks,
Kent



From ajs17 at cornell.edu  Tue May 11 16:19:23 2004
From: ajs17 at cornell.edu (Adam J Smith)
Date: Tue May 11 16:19:30 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] using PIL to process very large images
Message-ID: <63122.24.59.101.124.1084306763.squirrel@webmail.cornell.edu>


I am working on a Zope product using PIL that will easily enable Zope to
directly support Zoomify (www.zoomify.com). Basically, you add a high
resolution image to Zope and it automatically creates tiles at various
scales that are streamed to a Flash viewer so that very large image files
can be viewed through the Web--only the necessary image data is streamed
to the client.

I have been working directly with Zoomify Corp. on this and hope to
release it this Summer under the Zope public license. I have it working
correctly, but the problem is that the Windows/Mac version of this
software, written in C++ can handle images that are many gigabytes large.
(Yes, you read that right, there are people who have published 20+
gigabyte images on the Web using Zoomify.) I am currently optimizing the
product so that you can store the image data on the filesystem instead of
the ZODB, providing a command line interface so you don't have to use the
ZMI, etc. But what I can't seem to pin down is the PIL code I am using.

The basic approach is this: start with the full image, and create 256x256
'tiles' using the crop method and save these images using a naming
convention, then use the resize method to scale the original image in half
and create tiles again until the entire image is scaled to below 256x256.

This approach is technically correct and for small to moderately large
images, this works fine, but for images in the gigabyte range, I worried
about the amount of image data that is loaded into memory. Although it
looks like the crop method probably only loads in the 256x256 area it
needs each time, I assume that the resize method is loading a lot (all?)
of the image data into memory and returning an image object that holds all
of its image data in memory. (I found the load method in PIL, but this
doesn't work with JPEGs, and I'm not sure I would know how to use it
properly anyway.)

I am resorting to some very ugly code to take progressively bigger tiles
and resize them down instead of resizing the whole image, then tiling.
After getting to a certain point, I do resize the whole image, but at the
sixth scale level, betting that the resize method aggressively manages the
data it is reading in, and that at the sixth level, the image returned
will be small enough to hold in memory easily. I keep thinking there has
to be an easier way to do this, closer to the original 'stupid but it
works' approach I began with--PIL seems very mature and very widely used,
and I assume that others have worked with very large images using it. Or
is there a lot going on behind the scenes that I don't see, and I don't
need to worry about the memory issue?

I am still fairly new to Zope and Python and am very new to this kind of
image processing and handling of large binary files. Because of this, I
have been hesitant to dive into the PIL source to see what is going on,
because I am not confident that I will understand it!

Any guidance is most appreciated. If the Zoomify capability sounds
interesting to you and you want to directly join in on the fun, I am very
open to sharing this with other developers. (A little more background--the
'official' Zoomify software that does the tiling is closed source, and
only available for Mac and Win. I am deploying on Solaris and needed a way
to integrate it with Zope running there. Luckily, the Zoomify folks have
been very open to my releasing this under the Zope public license and have
been very helpful in the development of the Python version of their
software. And, when you buy a license to Zoomify, you do get the source
for the Flash and Java version of the viewer, so this Zope product could
be the basis for using Zoomify in an open way.)

Thanks,

____________________________
adam smith
ajs17@cornell.edu
255-8893
215 ccc

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Date: Wed May 12 02:45:15 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] Freedom at last
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From ronross at colba.net  Thu May 13 19:50:17 2004
From: ronross at colba.net (Ron Ross)
Date: Thu May 13 19:50:24 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] compilation include problems (fixed?)
Message-ID: <873c63q43q.fsf@riverrun.quixote.net>

Hi,

Compilation of the Python Imaging Library v. 1.1.4 terminated with the
following error: 

  In file included from _imagingft.c:18:
  /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h:20:2: #error "`ft2build.h' hasn't been included yet!"
  /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h:21:2: #error "Please always use macros to include FreeType header files."
  /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h:22:2: #error "Example:"
  /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h:23:2: #error "  #include <ft2build.h>"
  /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h:24:2: #error "  #include FT_FREETYPE_H"
  error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1

This is on Slackware-current (post-9.1), with Python 2.3 installed and
whatever version of Freetype comes with Xfree86 4.4.0.

Taking the hint from /usr/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h, in
_imagingft.c of the current PIL distribution I replaced

  #include <freetype/freetype.h>

with

 #include <ft2build.h>
 #include FT_FREETYPE_H

Compilation was then successful.

PS. As I'm not subscribed to the list, if you require any additional
    info please contact me directly.

All the best,

Ron


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From list+pyim at setup.org  Fri May 21 11:49:33 2004
From: list+pyim at setup.org (Alexy Khrabrov)
Date: Fri May 21 11:49:22 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] massrotate in python
Message-ID: <20040521154933.GA2126%alexy.khrabrov@setup.org>


Greetings -- I'm faced with the simplest task any digital photographer
needs: rotate vertical jpegs.  There's a program, jpegtran, to do it
losslessly, and with -copy all it also preserves EXIF data.  So I want
to use it instead of lossy rotations in xv, ImageMagick, and the like.

Looking around, I found a perl script to do just that:

http://freshmeat.net/massrotate/

Alas, its use of Gtk2 causes major headache when I install all that stuff
and it didn't play together in subtle ways.  And when it comes down to
programming it myself, I use python.

I also found that imlib2 is so much faster than ImageMagick, as
demonstrated by zphoto, an album app with a neat flash gallery.

So I wonder what's the simplest way to put together a python massrotate
script -- basically, see thumbs, and invoke either of the two actions,
rotate clockwise or counterclockwise, on some, which will invoke jpegtran
on them.

Come to think of it, I don't need a buttoning toolkit, I can have key
bindings, like in ImageMagick display, / and \, and look through images
in sequence, like in xv, with <space> -- no GUI per se, just resize an
image to fit the screen for viewing, rotate the original.

Better to have a thumbs gallery, of course, to spot the verticals faster.

So here goes the challenge: small is beautiful!  The massrotate task
does not need a full-blown viewer.  No GUI is necessary, just thumbs and
key bindings and a way to point at a jpeg, then the binding would invoke
a command on it.  What's the simplest way to do it with python?

If by any chance there's a way to define a macro for xv or display,
woould help, too, but the challenge stands!

-- 
Cheers,
Alexy Khrabrov :: www.setup.org :: Age Quod Agis

From list+pyim at setup.org  Fri May 21 13:53:04 2004
From: list+pyim at setup.org (Alexy Khrabrov)
Date: Fri May 21 13:52:57 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] python-imlib2
Message-ID: <20040521175304.GA32028%alexy.khrabrov@setup.org>


Is there a way to use imlib2 backend with PIL?  I see that imlib2
is blazing fast.  Beats ImageMagick seemingly 5x or more.  How does
PIL stacks up against imlib2 in resizing?

-- 
Cheers,
Alexy Khrabrov :: www.setup.org :: Age Quod Agis

From alexy.khrabrov at setup.org  Fri May 21 18:37:46 2004
From: alexy.khrabrov at setup.org (Alexy Khrabrov)
Date: Fri May 21 18:37:35 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] massrotate in python
In-Reply-To: <009c01c43f7f$9c9937e0$5d00a8c0@LABWXP>
References: <20040521154933.GA2126%alexy.khrabrov@setup.org>
	<009c01c43f7f$9c9937e0$5d00a8c0@LABWXP>
Message-ID: <20040521223746.GA23175%alexy.khrabrov@setup.org>

On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 05:04:38PM -0500, Larry Bates wrote:
> I use jhead an call it from python when necessary.
> 
> http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/

Of course, the only question remains, when *is* it necessary!  So we need
a viewer to invoke the action on an image at hand...  And that started
my whole exploration of viewers...  I've got as far as rv.py, which
works via pygame...  Grabbing the screen and showing low sync jitters...
Or they want Qt, or wxPython, which never compiles...

So, how do you know when to call jhead?  :)

Cheers,
Alexy

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Date: Tue May 25 18:48:36 2004
Subject: [Image-SIG] 
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