From crivera at hawaii.edu  Tue Jan 15 22:53:01 2019
From: crivera at hawaii.edu (Conrad Rivera)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:53:01 -1000
Subject: [Idle-dev] Python 3 Geany
Message-ID: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>

Aloha,

I am taking a beginning programming class -- CENT 110.  The class uses
Geany.  In downloading Python 3, the Professor made Geany the default
editor on my new MacPro Laptop 15'.  However, all my files and folders are
being trumped by Idle.  It has become a headache because, even though I
save in Geany, the Geany icon disappears and is replaced by the idle icon.

Can you help me?  I can not remove idle from the applications, as well.

Sincerely,

Conrad
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From techapotamus at me.com  Thu Jan 24 19:58:52 2019
From: techapotamus at me.com (Branch Seidenman)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:58:52 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Retina Icons
Message-ID: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>

Hi!

The icon for IDLE and Python Launcher look really bad on Retina Macs, and the Python folder doesn?t look so hot either. See attached image. Would it be possible to add the correct icon sizes to the app to make it look better? I put below Apple?s recommendations for icon sizes.

1024px ? 1024px
512px ? 512px
256px ? 256px
128px ? 128px
64px ? 64px
32px ? 32px
16px ? 16px

Thanks so much!
Branch

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From Irv at furrypants.com  Sat Jan 26 18:17:37 2019
From: Irv at furrypants.com (Irv Kalb)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 15:17:37 -0800
Subject: [Idle-dev] Python 3 Geany
In-Reply-To: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7C28CF9F-3AA4-485E-9772-E0705F434E53@furrypants.com>

On a Mac, file types are associated with an application.  On your system, files that end in .py are associated with the IDLE application.

To change this association, here's what you do:

1)  Find any file that you've created that ends in ".py"

2)  Click on it once to select it.

3)  Do a Command I (Get Info).  This should bring up a long dialog box.

4)  In the dialog box, find the "Open with" option.  It will probably say "IDLE"

5)  Click on the current selection and it will show you a list of applications.  Select Geany (or select Other if it is not in the list, then find Geany in your Applications folder).

6)  Click on the Change All ... button.

(You may have to do this twice - I don't know why!)

This changes the association so that from then on, any time you open a file whose name ends in ".py", that it should open the file in Geany.

Good luck,

Irv


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:53 PM, Conrad Rivera <crivera at hawaii.edu> wrote:
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> I am taking a beginning programming class -- CENT 110.  The class uses Geany.  In downloading Python 3, the Professor made Geany the default editor on my new MacPro Laptop 15'.  However, all my files and folders are being trumped by Idle.  It has become a headache because, even though I save in Geany, the Geany icon disappears and is replaced by the idle icon.
> 
> Can you help me?  I can not remove idle from the applications, as well.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Conrad
> _______________________________________________
> IDLE-dev mailing list
> IDLE-dev at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev


From tjreedy at udel.edu  Sat Jan 26 18:35:23 2019
From: tjreedy at udel.edu (Terry Reedy)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:35:23 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Python 3 Geany
In-Reply-To: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71d04d4b-f25d-88c2-4cbd-449009e95fa0@udel.edu>

On 1/15/2019 10:53 PM, Conrad Rivera wrote:
> Aloha,
> 
> I am taking a beginning programming class -- CENT 110.? The class uses 
> Geany.? In downloading Python 3, the Professor made Geany the default 
> editor on my new MacPro Laptop 15'.? However, all my files and folders 
> are being trumped by Idle.? It has become a headache because, even 
> though I save in Geany, the Geany icon disappears and is replaced by the 
> idle icon.

idle-dev is about the development of IDLE itself.  OS interactions are 
not controlled by idle maintainers and a bit off-topic here.

In any case, I believe what you call 'the idle icon' is actually the 
python code icon, which is used by IDLE also.  The association between 
'.py' and an icon and the default for right-click, open-with is set by 
the python installer (written by our python-on-mac developer).  How to 
change those to something else is a macOS question, not even a python 
question.

I am a Windows user, Mac neophyte, and have no idea how.  To be honest, 
I don't think changing the icon is appropriate.  .py files are python 
files, not Geany files.  (The default opener is another matter.)  But it 
is your machine.

---
Terry Jan Reedy


From tjreedy at udel.edu  Sat Jan 26 18:35:23 2019
From: tjreedy at udel.edu (Terry Reedy)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:35:23 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Python 3 Geany
In-Reply-To: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+L-3=iSOmn-Xq1Mjh8qtuCyfdSG2wVRSi17SRy_A===rqfJgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71d04d4b-f25d-88c2-4cbd-449009e95fa0@udel.edu>

On 1/15/2019 10:53 PM, Conrad Rivera wrote:
> Aloha,
> 
> I am taking a beginning programming class -- CENT 110.? The class uses 
> Geany.? In downloading Python 3, the Professor made Geany the default 
> editor on my new MacPro Laptop 15'.? However, all my files and folders 
> are being trumped by Idle.? It has become a headache because, even 
> though I save in Geany, the Geany icon disappears and is replaced by the 
> idle icon.

idle-dev is about the development of IDLE itself.  OS interactions are 
not controlled by idle maintainers and a bit off-topic here.

In any case, I believe what you call 'the idle icon' is actually the 
python code icon, which is used by IDLE also.  The association between 
'.py' and an icon and the default for right-click, open-with is set by 
the python installer (written by our python-on-mac developer).  How to 
change those to something else is a macOS question, not even a python 
question.

I am a Windows user, Mac neophyte, and have no idea how.  To be honest, 
I don't think changing the icon is appropriate.  .py files are python 
files, not Geany files.  (The default opener is another matter.)  But it 
is your machine.

---
Terry Jan Reedy



From tjreedy at udel.edu  Sat Jan 26 18:57:29 2019
From: tjreedy at udel.edu (Terry Reedy)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:57:29 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Retina Icons
In-Reply-To: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>
References: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>
Message-ID: <2483c8cc-ccce-98ee-30e2-5fededcac8be@udel.edu>

On 1/24/2019 7:58 PM, Branch Seidenman via IDLE-dev wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> The icon for IDLE and Python Launcher look really bad on Retina Macs, 
> and the Python folder doesn?t look so hot either. See attached image. 
> Would it be possible to add the correct icon sizes to the app to make it 
> look better? I put below Apple?s recommendations for icon sizes.
> 
> 1024px ? 1024px
> 512px ? 512px
> 256px ? 256px
> 128px ? 128px
> 64px ? 64px
> 32px ? 32px
> 16px ? 16px

I copied this list to https://bugs.python.org/issue32129 and added
"Creating new icons larger that 48px is beyond me.  Besides which, I 
believe these are copies of files elsewhere in the repository.  (The 
icons directory should have a README explaining the files and their 
origin.  How many of these sizes would actually be useful?  Would larger 
icons be useful on hi-rex Linux (or even Windows) systems?"

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy


From tjreedy at udel.edu  Sat Jan 26 18:57:29 2019
From: tjreedy at udel.edu (Terry Reedy)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 18:57:29 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Retina Icons
In-Reply-To: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>
References: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>
Message-ID: <2483c8cc-ccce-98ee-30e2-5fededcac8be@udel.edu>

On 1/24/2019 7:58 PM, Branch Seidenman via IDLE-dev wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> The icon for IDLE and Python Launcher look really bad on Retina Macs, 
> and the Python folder doesn?t look so hot either. See attached image. 
> Would it be possible to add the correct icon sizes to the app to make it 
> look better? I put below Apple?s recommendations for icon sizes.
> 
> 1024px ? 1024px
> 512px ? 512px
> 256px ? 256px
> 128px ? 128px
> 64px ? 64px
> 32px ? 32px
> 16px ? 16px

I copied this list to https://bugs.python.org/issue32129 and added
"Creating new icons larger that 48px is beyond me.  Besides which, I 
believe these are copies of files elsewhere in the repository.  (The 
icons directory should have a README explaining the files and their 
origin.  How many of these sizes would actually be useful?  Would larger 
icons be useful on hi-rex Linux (or even Windows) systems?"

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy



From techapotamus at me.com  Sat Jan 26 19:03:24 2019
From: techapotamus at me.com (Branch Seidenman)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:03:24 -0500
Subject: [Idle-dev] Retina Icons
In-Reply-To: <2483c8cc-ccce-98ee-30e2-5fededcac8be@udel.edu>
References: <1C7770FC-B6D2-4BCB-85FA-8DD3E0A79765@me.com>
 <2483c8cc-ccce-98ee-30e2-5fededcac8be@udel.edu>
Message-ID: <142D15A6-51D4-4B7B-A738-C591AC2393D6@me.com>

Thanks!

Hopefully it can be fixed soon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2019, at 6:57 PM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/24/2019 7:58 PM, Branch Seidenman via IDLE-dev wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The icon for IDLE and Python Launcher look really bad on Retina Macs, and the Python folder doesn?t look so hot either. See attached image. Would it be possible to add the correct icon sizes to the app to make it look better? I put below Apple?s recommendations for icon sizes.
>> 1024px ? 1024px
>> 512px ? 512px
>> 256px ? 256px
>> 128px ? 128px
>> 64px ? 64px
>> 32px ? 32px
>> 16px ? 16px
> 
> I copied this list to https://bugs.python.org/issue32129 and added
> "Creating new icons larger that 48px is beyond me.  Besides which, I believe these are copies of files elsewhere in the repository.  (The icons directory should have a README explaining the files and their origin.  How many of these sizes would actually be useful?  Would larger icons be useful on hi-rex Linux (or even Windows) systems?"
> 
> -- 
> Terry Jan Reedy
>