From kevin at kevinturnercareer.com  Thu Oct 13 02:49:35 2011
From: kevin at kevinturnercareer.com (MusicKev)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:49:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Idle-dev]  Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
Message-ID: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>


I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a version
of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python 2.7. 
How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
Thanks,
Kevin
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From nad at acm.org  Fri Oct 14 23:47:50 2011
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:47:50 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
References: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>

In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
 MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:

> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a version
> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python 2.7. 
> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?

Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From kevin at kevinturnercareer.com  Sat Oct 15 01:23:51 2011
From: kevin at kevinturnercareer.com (MusicKev)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:23:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>
References: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>
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Ned Deily wrote:
> 
> In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
>  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a
>> version
>> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python
>> 2.7. 
>> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
> 
> Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'.
> 
> -- 
>  Ned Deily,
>  nad at acm.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> IDLE-dev mailing list
> IDLE-dev at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
> 
> 

Hi Ned,

Iidle3 from the terminal does not work. I get an error "IDLE can't import
Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk."   Same error if I just
type idle.
I can launch Python3 from the terminal. 
I can launch IDLE 2.7.1 from the GUI. I am new to Linux and am a bit lost
trying to troubleshoot. It seems like an install problem or a configuration
problem but I can't figure it out.
I have Python/IDLE3 working on Mac and Windows but I need it on Linux for a
class project.

Thanks.
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From nad at acm.org  Mon Oct 17 05:06:09 2011
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:06:09 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
References: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>
	<32655998.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <nad-10D4ED.20060916102011@dough.gmane.org>

In article <32655998.post at talk.nabble.com>,
 MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
> Ned Deily wrote:
> > In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
> >  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a
> >> version
> >> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python
> >> 2.7. 
> >> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
> > 
> > Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'. 
> Iidle3 from the terminal does not work. I get an error "IDLE can't import
> Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk."   Same error if I just
> type idle.
> I can launch Python3 from the terminal. 
> I can launch IDLE 2.7.1 from the GUI. I am new to Linux and am a bit lost
> trying to troubleshoot. It seems like an install problem or a configuration
> problem but I can't figure it out.
> I have Python/IDLE3 working on Mac and Windows but I need it on Linux for a
> class project.

Sorry, I don't have an Ubuntu system at hand to test with and I'm not 
sure what release you are using.  If you've installed the idle-python3.2 
package, presumably all the dependencies should have been installed.  It 
also looks like Ubuntu installs the idle script as 
/usr/bin/idle-python3.2.  Try that.  You might want to ask on an Ubuntu 
forum.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From taleinat at gmail.com  Mon Oct 17 17:46:58 2011
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:46:58 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
In-Reply-To: <nad-10D4ED.20060916102011@dough.gmane.org>
References: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>
	<32655998.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-10D4ED.20060916102011@dough.gmane.org>
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Ned Deily <nad at acm.org> wrote:

> In article <32655998.post at talk.nabble.com>,
>  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
> > Ned Deily wrote:
> > > In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
> > >  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a
> > >> version
> > >> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python
> > >> 2.7.
> > >> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
> > >
> > > Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'.
> > Iidle3 from the terminal does not work. I get an error "IDLE can't import
> > Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk."   Same error if I
> just
> > type idle.
> > I can launch Python3 from the terminal.
> > I can launch IDLE 2.7.1 from the GUI. I am new to Linux and am a bit lost
> > trying to troubleshoot. It seems like an install problem or a
> configuration
> > problem but I can't figure it out.
> > I have Python/IDLE3 working on Mac and Windows but I need it on Linux for
> a
> > class project.
>
> Sorry, I don't have an Ubuntu system at hand to test with and I'm not
> sure what release you are using.  If you've installed the idle-python3.2
> package, presumably all the dependencies should have been installed.  It
> also looks like Ubuntu installs the idle script as
> /usr/bin/idle-python3.2.  Try that.  You might want to ask on an Ubuntu
> forum.
>

In my Ubuntu installation (version 10.10 a.k.a. Maverick) I only see Python
3.1 in Aptitude, not 3.2. Did you install manually from source? If so then
that means you needs to install dependencies manually, and you probably
haven't installed Tkinter or Tcl/Tk (used by Tkinter) in a way that your
installation of Python 3.2 can recognize.

Do you really need Python 3.2? You can install version 3.1 of Python using
Aptitude (manually with the command line or using Synaptic), and you should
get a working version of IDLE with Python 3.1.

If you really need Python 3.2, on its download page[1] there is a link to a
page regarding Tkinter[2] which should contain the required information on
which version of Tcl/Tk you need to install, and perhaps how.

Please tell us how this worked out for future reference!
- Tal Einat

[1] http://python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/
[2] http://python.org/download/mac/tcltk
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From nad at acm.org  Mon Oct 17 22:51:14 2011
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:51:14 -0700
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
References: <32642225.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-131235.14475014102011@news.gmane.org>
	<32655998.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<nad-10D4ED.20060916102011@dough.gmane.org>
	<CALWZvp5oyMKwXnumHKrOwfgoUYbzn_5t1ZsaG_Fo5m9XYjw9wg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-501161.13511417102011@news.gmane.org>

In article 
<CALWZvp5oyMKwXnumHKrOwfgoUYbzn_5t1ZsaG_Fo5m9XYjw9wg at mail.gmail.com>,
 Tal Einat <taleinat at gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you really need Python 3.2? You can install version 3.1 of Python using
> Aptitude (manually with the command line or using Synaptic), and you should
> get a working version of IDLE with Python 3.1.
> 
> If you really need Python 3.2, on its download page[1] there is a link to a
> page regarding Tkinter[2] which should contain the required information on
> which version of Tcl/Tk you need to install, and perhaps how.

If you are using Python 3, you should use Python 3.2.x if at all 
possible, not any earlier versions of Python 3.  There are just too many 
bug fixes and performance improvements along with the new features.  
It's not like the difference between, say, Python 2.6 and 2.7.  And 
maintenance on Python 3.1 by the Python-dev team has ceased; only any 
urgent security fix that might arise would be issued for 3.1.x.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From taleinat at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 01:16:27 2011
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:16:27 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Ned Deily <nad at acm.org> wrote:

> In article
> <CALWZvp5oyMKwXnumHKrOwfgoUYbzn_5t1ZsaG_Fo5m9XYjw9wg at mail.gmail.com>,
>  Tal Einat <taleinat at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Do you really need Python 3.2? You can install version 3.1 of Python
> using
> > Aptitude (manually with the command line or using Synaptic), and you
> should
> > get a working version of IDLE with Python 3.1.
> >
> > If you really need Python 3.2, on its download page[1] there is a link to
> a
> > page regarding Tkinter[2] which should contain the required information
> on
> > which version of Tcl/Tk you need to install, and perhaps how.
>
> If you are using Python 3, you should use Python 3.2.x if at all
> possible, not any earlier versions of Python 3.  There are just too many
> bug fixes and performance improvements along with the new features.
> It's not like the difference between, say, Python 2.6 and 2.7.  And
> maintenance on Python 3.1 by the Python-dev team has ceased; only any
> urgent security fix that might arise would be issued for 3.1.x.
>

That's true.

Perhaps whoever is in charge of the Ubuntu package management system should
be encouraged to update to Python 3.2 instead of 3.1? Installing IDLE
otherwise is quite complicated -- nobody here on IDLE-dev has explained how
to do it in the few days since the question was posted!

- Tal Einat
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From clockworksaint at gmail.com  Tue Oct 18 08:41:55 2011
From: clockworksaint at gmail.com (Weeble)
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 07:41:55 +0100
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
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How did you install Python and IDLE? On my 32-bit Ubuntu 11.04 VM, idle3
works for me, although it looks like I only have Python 3.2, possibly not
3.2.2. Some details you might compare to your own setup:

/usr/bin/idle3 is an executable script provided by the "idle3" package.

/usr/bin/idle3 specifies /usr/bin/python3 as its interpreter.

/usr/bin/python3 is a symlink to python3.2.

The "idle3" package requires the "python3" and "python3-tk" packages. If you
installed it with "sudo apt-get install idle3", they will have been
installed automatically.

The Python 3 packages I have are "python3", "python3-minimal", "python3-tk",
"python3.2", "python3.2-minimal", and "idle3".

As far as I can tell, IDLE uses sys.executable to determine the Python to
launch for its shell, and this will always be the Python that IDLE itself is
running in.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM, MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Ned Deily wrote:
>>
>> In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
>>  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a
>>> version
>>> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python
>>> 2.7.
>>> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
>>
>> Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'.
>>
>> --
>>  Ned Deily,
>>  nad at acm.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IDLE-dev mailing list
>> IDLE-dev at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
>>
>>
>
> Hi Ned,
>
> Iidle3 from the terminal does not work. I get an error "IDLE can't import
> Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk."   Same error if I just
> type idle.
> I can launch Python3 from the terminal.
> I can launch IDLE 2.7.1 from the GUI. I am new to Linux and am a bit lost
> trying to troubleshoot. It seems like an install problem or a
configuration
> problem but I can't figure it out.
> I have Python/IDLE3 working on Mac and Windows but I need it on Linux for
a
> class project.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> View this message in context:
http://old.nabble.com/Configuring-IDLE-for-Python-3.2.2-on-Ubuntu-tp32642225p32655998.html
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From kevin at kevinturnercareer.com  Wed Oct 19 21:14:12 2011
From: kevin at kevinturnercareer.com (MusicKev)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:14:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Idle-dev] Configuring IDLE for Python 3.2.2 on Ubuntu
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Thank you, I have it working now! I do need to include the path to IDLE for
it to work which suprises me since it is located in /usr/bin
Kevin

Weeble wrote:
> 
> How did you install Python and IDLE? On my 32-bit Ubuntu 11.04 VM, idle3
> works for me, although it looks like I only have Python 3.2, possibly not
> 3.2.2. Some details you might compare to your own setup:
> 
> /usr/bin/idle3 is an executable script provided by the "idle3" package.
> 
> /usr/bin/idle3 specifies /usr/bin/python3 as its interpreter.
> 
> /usr/bin/python3 is a symlink to python3.2.
> 
> The "idle3" package requires the "python3" and "python3-tk" packages. If
> you
> installed it with "sudo apt-get install idle3", they will have been
> installed automatically.
> 
> The Python 3 packages I have are "python3", "python3-minimal",
> "python3-tk",
> "python3.2", "python3.2-minimal", and "idle3".
> 
> As far as I can tell, IDLE uses sys.executable to determine the Python to
> launch for its shell, and this will always be the Python that IDLE itself
> is
> running in.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:23 AM, MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Ned Deily wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <32642225.post at talk.nabble.com>,
>>>  MusicKev <kevin at kevinturnercareer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have Python 2.7 and python 3.2.2 installed on my system. There is a
>>>> version
>>>> of IDLE installed for each version of Python but they all open Python
>>>> 2.7.
>>>> How can I configure IDLE to open the Python 3.2.2 version?
>>>
>>> Try typing 'idle3' instead of 'idle'.
>>>
>>> --
>>>  Ned Deily,
>>>  nad at acm.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> IDLE-dev mailing list
>>> IDLE-dev at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Ned,
>>
>> Iidle3 from the terminal does not work. I get an error "IDLE can't import
>> Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk."   Same error if I
>> just
>> type idle.
>> I can launch Python3 from the terminal.
>> I can launch IDLE 2.7.1 from the GUI. I am new to Linux and am a bit lost
>> trying to troubleshoot. It seems like an install problem or a
> configuration
>> problem but I can't figure it out.
>> I have Python/IDLE3 working on Mac and Windows but I need it on Linux for
> a
>> class project.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/Configuring-IDLE-for-Python-3.2.2-on-Ubuntu-tp32642225p32655998.html
>> Sent from the Python - idle-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IDLE-dev mailing list
>> IDLE-dev at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> IDLE-dev mailing list
> IDLE-dev at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
> 
> 

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