From gregorcasar at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 21:18:01 2009
From: gregorcasar at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Gregor_=C8asar?=)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:18:01 +0100
Subject: [Idle-dev] mixing input and output lines
Message-ID: <4a4031c70910251318g3c1ffbc0q5d5f0682bd63b851@mail.gmail.com>

When using multithreading the your input and output can mix creating havoc.
I love IDLE and would really like to see this implemented in it. I'd code it
myself, but none of my queries told me where to apply for dev or anything
like this.

Keep up the good work,

Gregor
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From mayuresh at omnesysindia.com  Mon Oct 26 09:40:57 2009
From: mayuresh at omnesysindia.com (Mayuresh Marathe)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:10:57 +0530
Subject: [Idle-dev] output improper
Message-ID: <mailman.1201.1256752828.2803.idle-dev@python.org>

Dear Sir,

 

I would request kind help in sorting a problem out as I am getting improper
results. I am pasting the program and its output for reference.

 

Python 3.1.1 (r311:74483, Aug 17 2009, 17:02:12) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
on win32

Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.

>>> print ("Please give a number: ")

Please give a number: 

>>> a = input()

12

>>> Print ("And another :")

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "<pyshell#2>", line 1, in <module>

    Print ("And another :")

NameError: name 'Print' is not defined

>>> print ("And another: ")

And another: 

>>> b = input()

23

>>> print ("The sum of these numbers is :")

The sum of these numbers is :

>>> print (a+b)

1223

>>> print a+b

SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<pyshell#7>, line 1)

>>> print("a+b")

a+b

>>> print (a+b)

1223

>>> 

 

 

 

 

Best Regards,

Mayuresh Marathe | Manager Operations - Mumbai

Mob  (+91) 9324704490

* mayuresh at omnesysindia.com

 

Nothing Is Impossible For A Willing Heart ....

 

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From kodazer at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 04:39:41 2009
From: kodazer at gmail.com (kodazer)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:39:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Idle-dev] Help needed for using IDLE under Ubuntu 8.04
In-Reply-To: <20479033.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <484D557D.6000109@vip.sina.com> <20479033.post@talk.nabble.com>
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Same exact situation.

Ubuntu: 9.04
Python: 3.0.1 (also 2.6 installed)
IDLE: 3.0.1
TK: 8.5


kay2008 wrote:
> 
> got any clue yet? I encountered the same problem under Ubuntu 8.10, I
> think the problem is with the call tip, that is the small box poped up
> giving you a tip with regarding to the arguments expected when you type a
> function. The problem occur not only when you type the closing
> parenthesis, in fact, whatever you type, once the call tip box disappear,
> the problem arise.
> Ubuntu: 8.10 Chinese Mainland
> Python: 2.6
> IDLE: 2.6
> TK:8.4
> 

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From taleinat at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 23:23:53 2009
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:23:53 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] output improper
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References: <4ae886ff.0b67f10a.3add.6959SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <7afdee2f0910281523rb736bceld1a11368a0fcb171@mail.gmail.com>

Mayuresh Marathe wrote:

>  Dear Sir,
>
>
>
> I would request kind help in sorting a problem out as I am getting improper
> results. I am pasting the program and its output for reference.
>
>
>
> Python 3.1.1 (r311:74483, Aug 17 2009, 17:02:12) [MSC v.1500 32 bit
> (Intel)] on win32
>
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
>
> >>> print ("Please give a number: ")
>
> Please give a number:
>
> >>> a = input()
>
> 12
>
> >>> Print ("And another :")
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>
>   File "<pyshell#2>", line 1, in <module>
>
>     Print ("And another :")
>
> NameError: name 'Print' is not defined
>
> >>> print ("And another: ")
>
> And another:
>
> >>> b = input()
>
> 23
>
> >>> print ("The sum of these numbers is :")
>
> The sum of these numbers is :
>
> >>> print (a+b)
>
> 1223
>
> >>> print a+b
>
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<pyshell#7>, line 1)
>
> >>> print("a+b")
>
> a+b
>
> >>> print (a+b)
>
> 1223
>
> >>>
>

Hello Mayuresh,

In version 3.0 and above of Python, the input() function always returns a
string. To get what you want, pass the strings returned by input() into the
int() function in order to convert them to integers, for example:

>>> a = int(input())

In your above example, both 'a' and 'b' are variables referring to strings,
not numbers. In Python, "adding" strings means concatenation, for example
"abc" + "ecf" will become the string "abcdef", and similarly "12" + "23"
becomes "1223". On the other hand, 12 + 23 becomes 35, since 12 and 23 are
integers (whole numbers).


It is useful to just write the name of a variable and then enter in the
shell, which prints that variable's representation. For example:

>>> a = "12"
>>> b = 12
>>> a
'12'
>>> b
12

>From the output above you can see that the variable 'a' refers to a string,
while the variable 'b' refers to an integer.


Finally, this mailing list is for the discussion of IDLE itself. While I'm
happy to help, general Python questions such as this are better directed to
other places, where you will get more answer more quickly. See
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide, and specifically
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Help, for details on good places
to get help for beginning with Python. I highly recommend posting on the
comp.lang.python newsgroup, and searching there since answers to most Python
questions are already there!


Good luck!

- Tal
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From taleinat at gmail.com  Wed Oct 28 23:29:35 2009
From: taleinat at gmail.com (Tal Einat)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:29:35 +0200
Subject: [Idle-dev] mixing input and output lines
In-Reply-To: <4a4031c70910251318g3c1ffbc0q5d5f0682bd63b851@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a4031c70910251318g3c1ffbc0q5d5f0682bd63b851@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7afdee2f0910281529w2fe7b6fdr40ad406f1bc214eb@mail.gmail.com>

Gregor ?asar wrote:

> When using multithreading the your input and output can mix creating havoc.
>
> I love IDLE and would really like to see this implemented in it. I'd code
> it myself, but none of my queries told me where to apply for dev or anything
> like this.
>
> Keep up the good work,
>
> Gregor


Hi Gregor,

You've come to the right place if you want to try improving IDLE, since this
is the mailing list for IDLE developers and maintainers.

If you can implement it yourself, then you can submit a patch to the main
Python issue tracker at bugs.python.org (don't forget to tag it with the
"IDLE" category and also write IDLE in the subject). But it would be better
to first explain the feature here to make sure that there is interest, to
make sure that your effort doesn't go to waste.

I couldn't understand the feature you are suggesting is. Care to explain in
more detail, perhaps with examples?

- Tal
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