[I18n-sig] [ case study ] putting i18n into practice

[kirby urner]

Here's a post to another listserv where I talk about putting
my Romanized Collation into practice, such that fullnames,
even if not Latin-1 in spelling, show up phonetically in a
place that makes sense to browsers / app users.  Links
back to this archive.  The ds.npym or ds-npym links below
are science fiction at this point as the app in question,
though partially implemented in Django-on-Heroku, is
not resident in the npym.org domain (yet).

Kirby




From: npym-it-discuss
Date: Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:24 AM
Subject: Fwd: The "Name Tag" problem (and proposed solution)





On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 1:15:59 PM UTC-7, kirby urner wrote:
>
>
> This is not in specific reference to anything in the Registration
> Application.
>
> The Reg App works well based on Last to anchor household, with exceptions
> OK, then each in the household goes by First.  This is "business casual"
> ala NPYM and works well for us.
>
> I'm more focusing on my Django on Heroku App, a prototype for a new
> directory service, not either / or with CD / DVD.
>
> Looking to the future, I'm anticipating a smattering of events, if not
> Annual Session, say at a Monthly Meeting, where name tags would NOT be all
> Roman letters (or Latin-1).
>
> AFSC has need for non-Latin-1 a lot.  Half the people I meet at the
> airport may not have Latin-1 names (just kidding, more like one fourth).
>
> As I put it to William, the Russian-speaking returned vet, now civilian:
>
> ===
>
> The "nametag problem" is listing full names alphabetically across multiple
> languages.  The "When in Rome..." solution I come up with is:  ask
> Russians, Chinese, Koreans etc. to sound it out and Romanize phonetically,
> in order to poke it in using some standard A-Z collation.
>
> Picture an SQL database:  Full_name,  Last, First
>
> My name is U Thant in Burmese but how do I get my name to show up under
> Thant?  Easy right?
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/17347213022/in/album-72157649301627162/
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/i18n-sig/2015-May/002131.html
>
> ===
>
> I'm playing with the idea that when we go:
>
> http://ds-npym.org/F
>
> to get all names starting with F, that we might *only* get a listing of
> fullnames, with some in the collation thanks to Romanized / phoneticized
> values we do not display, in Last and First taken alone.
>
> In other words, if Лэрри Фэргуссон appears between Joe Fergler and Linda
> Findhorne, that would make sense, because in the Last, First fields we have
> something Romanized (but not displayed).
>
> Joe Fergler (efm)
> Лэрри Фэргуссон  (ttlm)
> Linda Findhorne (mmm)
>
> You know these are lastname F people, so even if you don't read Cyrillic,
> if you have a mental sound for the name, you have a chance of getting to it
> this way (alphabetically, using an alphabet you already know :-D).
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
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