From jim@zope.com  Fri Feb 21 17:51:18 2003
From: jim@zope.com (Jim Fulton)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:51:18 -0500
Subject: [I18n-sig] I18n sprints
Message-ID: <3E566716.1000402@zope.com>

Hi,

I'd like to invite people from this list to participate in some sprints
scheduled to focus on I18n/L10n for Zope and other Python applications.

A sprint is a multi-day focused development session, in which
developers pair in a room and focus on building a particular
subsystem. A sprint is organized with a coach leading the session. The
coach sets the agenda, tracks activities, and keeps the development
moving. The developers work in pairs using XP's pair programming
approach.

The sprint approach works best when the first few hours are spent
getting oriented -- presenting a tutorial for the development
material, laying out the stories to tackle for the day, getting
everyone a CVS checkout to work with.

See also the section "Sprinting Explained" at the bottom of this page:
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/SprintSchedule

The two sprints are:

- PyCon, http://www.python.org/pycon/, sprint, March 24-25, 2003
   in Washington D.C..
   See http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/PyConSprint.

- Louvain-la-neuve Sprint April 8-11, 2003, in Louvain-la-neuve,
   Belgium.  See http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/LouvainLaNeuveSprint.

Jim

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From bruno@clisp.org  Mon Feb 24 13:31:42 2003
From: bruno@clisp.org (Bruno Haible)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:31:42 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [I18n-sig] bugs in gettext.py plural handling
Message-ID: <15962.7870.534282.204499@honolulu.ilog.fr>

Hi,

Testing GNU gettext's integration test with Python 2.3a2, I see that
there are several bugs relating to plural forms and the ngettext functi=
on.


1)

$ python
import gettext
germanic =3D gettext.c2py('!(n =3D=3D 1)')
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
  File "/packages/gnu-inst-python/2.3a2/lib/python2.3/gettext.py", line=
 110, in c2py
    stack[-1] +=3D '(%s)' % s
IndexError: list index out of range

The ! operator is treated incorrectly if not followed by a space.

Here is a fix.

*** gettext.py.bak=092003-02-22 02:28:17.000000000 +0100
--- gettext.py=092003-02-22 21:37:33.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 88,95 ****
      plural =3D plural.replace('&&', ' and ')
      plural =3D plural.replace('||', ' or ')
 =20
!     expr =3D re.compile(r'\![^=3D]')
!     plural =3D expr.sub(' not ', plural)
 =20
      # Regular expression and replacement function used to transform
      # "a?b:c" to "test(a,b,c)".
--- 88,95 ----
      plural =3D plural.replace('&&', ' and ')
      plural =3D plural.replace('||', ' or ')
 =20
!     expr =3D re.compile(r'\!([^=3D])')
!     plural =3D expr.sub(' not \\1', plural)
 =20
      # Regular expression and replacement function used to transform
      # "a?b:c" to "test(a,b,c)".


2) Unbalanced parentheses in a plural expression don't give an error
'unbalanced parenthesis in plural form'.

Example:
$ python
import gettext
germanic =3D gettext.c2py('n =3D)=3D 1')

Instead we get an weird error message

tokenize.TokenError: ('EOF in multi-line statement', (2, 0))

Furthermore even if this error were avoided, we would get

IndexError: list index out of range

Here is a fix for the second half of this bug. I don't know Python
enough to fix the first half as well.

*** gettext.py.bak=092003-02-22 02:28:17.000000000 +0100
--- gettext.py=092003-02-22 21:37:33.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 104,110 ****
          if c =3D=3D '(':
              stack.append('')
          elif c =3D=3D ')':
!             if len(stack) =3D=3D 0:
                  raise ValueError, 'unbalanced parenthesis in plural f=
orm'
              s =3D expr.sub(repl, stack.pop())
              stack[-1] +=3D '(%s)' % s
--- 104,110 ----
          if c =3D=3D '(':
              stack.append('')
          elif c =3D=3D ')':
!             if len(stack) =3D=3D 1:
                  raise ValueError, 'unbalanced parenthesis in plural f=
orm'
              s =3D expr.sub(repl, stack.pop())
              stack[-1] +=3D '(%s)' % s


3) Here's my test code (in ISO-8859-1):

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D prog.py=
 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D
import sys
import gettext

n =3D int(sys.argv[1])

gettext.textdomain('prog')
gettext.bindtextdomain('prog', '.')

print gettext.gettext("'Your command, please?', asked the waiter.")
print gettext.ngettext("a piece of cake","%(count)d pieces of cake",n) =
\
      % { 'count': n }
print gettext.gettext("%(oldCurrency)s is replaced by %(newCurrency)s."=
) \
      % { 'oldCurrency': "FF", 'newCurrency' : "EUR" }
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D f=
r.po =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
msgid ""
msgstr ""
"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1\n"
"Plural-Forms: nplurals=3D2; plural=3D(n > 1);\n"

msgid "'Your command, please?', asked the waiter."
msgstr "=ABVotre commande, s'il vous plait=BB, dit le gar=E7on."

# Les gateaux allemands sont les meilleurs du monde.
#, python-format
msgid "a piece of cake"
msgid_plural "%(count)d pieces of cake"
msgstr[0] "un morceau de gateau"
msgstr[1] "%(count)d morceaux de gateau"

# Reverse the arguments.
#, python-format
msgid "%(oldCurrency)s is replaced by %(newCurrency)s."
msgstr "%(newCurrency)s remplace %(oldCurrency)s."
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

$ mkdir -p fr/LC_MESSAGES
$ msgfmt -o fr/LC_MESSAGES/prog.mo fr.po
$ LANGUAGE=3D LC_ALL=3Dfr_FR python prog.py 2
=ABVotre commande, s'il vous plait=BB, dit le gar=E7on.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "prog.py", line 10, in ?
    print gettext.ngettext("a piece of cake","%(count)d pieces of cake"=
,n) \
  File "/packages/gnu-inst-python/2.3a2/lib/python2.3/gettext.py", line=
 445, in ngettext
    return dngettext(_current_domain, msgid1, msgid2, n)
  File "/packages/gnu-inst-python/2.3a2/lib/python2.3/gettext.py", line=
 437, in dngettext
    return t.ngettext(msgid1, msgid2, n)
  File "/packages/gnu-inst-python/2.3a2/lib/python2.3/gettext.py", line=
 294, in ngettext
    return self._catalog[(msgid1, self.plural(n))]
AttributeError: GNUTranslations instance has no attribute 'plural'

Why does it have no 'plural' attribute?

* Testing that the header entry starts with 'Project-Id-Version:' is
not appropriate because it excludes valid header entries. The gettext
tools may remove or move this line in future versions.

* libintl and msgfmt assume a fallback of "n !=3D 1" if no Plural-Forms=
:
entry is provided. In the same way, self.plural should use "n !=3D 1" a=
s a
fallback.

Here is the fix for both.

*** gettext.py.bak=092003-02-22 02:28:17.000000000 +0100
--- gettext.py=092003-02-22 21:37:33.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 114,119 ****
--- 114,121 ----
 =20
      return eval('lambda n: int(%s)' % plural)
 =20
+ _germanic_plural =3D lambda n: int(n !=3D 1)
+=20
 =20
 =20
  def _expand_lang(locale):
***************
*** 225,230 ****
--- 227,233 ----
          # Parse the .mo file header, which consists of 5 little endia=
n 32
          # bit words.
          self._catalog =3D catalog =3D {}
+         self.plural =3D _germanic_plural
          buf =3D fp.read()
          buflen =3D len(buf)
          # Are we big endian or little endian?
***************
*** 258,264 ****
              else:
                  raise IOError(0, 'File is corrupt', filename)
              # See if we're looking at GNU .mo conventions for metadat=
a
!             if mlen =3D=3D 0 and tmsg.lower().startswith('project-id-=
version:'):
                  # Catalog description
                  for item in tmsg.split('\n'):
                      item =3D item.strip()
--- 261,267 ----
              else:
                  raise IOError(0, 'File is corrupt', filename)
              # See if we're looking at GNU .mo conventions for metadat=
a
!             if mlen =3D=3D 0:
                  # Catalog description
                  for item in tmsg.split('\n'):
                      item =3D item.strip()


4) Btw, I have to correct a misimpression. It was claimed in
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/i18n-sig/2002-November/001514.html
that GNU xgettext 0.11.5 doesn't support ngettext in Python. But it doe=
s
if you add the command line options "-kgettext -kngettext:1,2". The rea=
son
is that when xgettext 0.11.5 was released, Python didn't have the ngett=
ext
function, and noone told me that it would.

So for example,

   $ xgettext -kgettext -kngettext:1,2 -o - prog.py

produces the .pot file for prog.py above.


Bruno


From Tex Texin <tex@XenCraft.com>  Fri Feb 28 05:44:59 2003
From: Tex Texin <tex@XenCraft.com> (Tex Texin)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:44:59 -0500
Subject: [I18n-sig] Unicode Conference Early Bird rates about to expire
Message-ID: <3E5EF75B.D511E039@i18nguy.com>

March 1 is the deadline to get a discount on the conference and hotel rates,
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