From redpineseed@yahoo.com Wed May 1 07:22:51 2002
From: redpineseed@yahoo.com (RedPineseed)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:22:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [I18n-sig] Chinese GB HTML to XML in Chinese
Message-ID: <20020501062251.77768.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi there,
I have a bunch of HTML in Chinese GB2312 encoding and
I want extract the useful Chinese info and out into
XML format with Chinese Tags. I could filter
the HTML with raw sting regexp and output XML in
Chinese GB. When i try to open that XML in XMLSpy, all
is corrupted. please help. Thanks.
Philip
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From Matt Gushee Thu May 2 16:56:05 2002
From: Matt Gushee (Matt Gushee)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:56:05 -0600
Subject: [I18n-sig] Chinese GB HTML to XML in Chinese
In-Reply-To: <20020501062251.77768.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020501062251.77768.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020502155605.GA517@drachma.fourthought.com>
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:22:51PM -0700, RedPineseed wrote:
> I have a bunch of HTML in Chinese GB2312 encoding and
> I want extract the useful Chinese info and out into
> XML format with Chinese Tags. I could filter
> the HTML with raw sting regexp and output XML in
> Chinese GB.
I'm sure people will be happy to help, but you need to give some
more details so we can understand what kind of problem you're having.
What version of Windows are you running? What version of Python?
What Python library or other tool are you using to convert to GB
encoding (Python does *not* support GB by default)? Finally, some
examples of your actual code would be very helpful.
When i try to open that XML in XMLSpy, all
> is corrupted. please help. Thanks.
Do you know for certain whether your version of XMLSpy supports
GB encoding?
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4735 East Walnut St, Boulder, CO 80301-2537, USA
XML strategy, XML tools (http://4Suite.org), knowledge management
From mail@netmail.de Mon May 6 18:43:01 2002
From: mail@netmail.de (Immer frischer Kaffee)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:43:01
Subject: [I18n-sig] Betreff
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From: Misha.Wolf@reuters.com (Misha.Wolf@reuters.com)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 19:16:47 +0100
Subject: [I18n-sig] LAST Call for Papers - 22nd Unicode Conference - Sep 2002 - San Jose -
Just 7 days to go!
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Twenty-second International Unicode Conference (IUC22)
Unicode and the Web: Evolution or Revolution?
http://www.unicode.org/iuc/iuc22
September 9-13, 2002
San Jose, California
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Call for Papers >>> Deadline extended! >>> Send in your submission now!
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Submissions due: Extended to May 17, 2002
Notification date: May 31, 2002
Completed papers due : June 21, 2002
(in electronic form and camera-ready paper form)
The software industry continues its rapid growth and change. In this
year alone, Unicode 3.2 was released and several new proposals for the
Internet and the World Wide Web were promoted to standards. Web
Services is the latest buzz. Are the vendors of software that support
these technologies keeping up? How can you be sure that you are
deploying software components that work well together today and in the
future? This Conference is where you go to find out. Experts will
describe the latest changes to the Unicode standard and the other
standards used for e-business today. You will also learn about the best
practices for utilizing, integrating and deploying these technologies
based on real-world examples and experience. Demonstrations are often
provided.
We invite you to submit papers which either define the software of
tomorrow, demonstrate best practice with today's software, or articulate
problems that must be solved before further advances can occur. Papers
should discuss subjects in the context of Unicode, internationalization
or localization. You can view the programs of previous Conferences at:
http://www.unicode.org/unicode/conference/about-conf.html
Conference attendees are generally involved in either the development,
deployment or use of Unicode software or content, or the globalization
of software and the Internet. They include managers, software engineers,
systems analysts, font designers, graphic designers, content developers,
technical writers, and product marketing personnel.
THEME & TOPICS
Computing with Unicode is the overall theme of the Conference.
Presentations should be geared towards a technical audience. Topics of
interest include, but are not limited to, the following (within the
context of Unicode, internationalization or localization):
- Web Services
- XML and related specifications
- The World Wide Web (WWW)
- Portable devices
- UTFs: Not enough or too many?
- Security concerns e.g. Avoiding the spoofing of UTF-8 data
- Impact of new encoding standards
- Implementing Unicode: Practical and political hurdles
- Implementing new features of recent versions of Unicode
- Algorithms (e.g. normalization, collation, bidirectional)
- Programming languages and libraries (Java, Perl, et al)
- Search engines
- Library and archival concerns
- Operating systems
- Databases
- Large scale networks
- Government applications
- Evaluations (case studies, usability studies)
- Natural language processing
- Migrating legacy applications
- Cross platform issues
- Printing and imaging
- Optimizing performance of systems and applications
- Testing applications
- Business models for software development (e.g. Open source)
SESSIONS
The Conference Program will provide a wide range of sessions including:
- Keynote presentations
- Workshops/Tutorials
- Technical presentations
- Panel sessions
All sessions except the Workshops/Tutorials will be of 40 minute
duration. In some cases, two consecutive 40 minute program slots may be
devoted to a single session.
The Workshops/Tutorials will each last approximately three hours. They
should be designed to stimulate discussion and participation, using
slides and demonstrations.
PUBLICITY
If your paper is accepted, your details will be included in the
Conference brochure and Web pages and the paper itself will appear on a
Conference CD, with an optional printed book of Conference Proceedings.
CONFERENCE LANGUAGE
The Conference language is English. All submissions, papers and
presentations should be provided in English.
SUBMISSIONS
Submissions MUST contain:
1. An abstract of 150-250 words, consisting of statement of purpose,
paper description, and your conclusions or final summary.
2. A brief biography.
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From redpineseed@telus.net Tue May 14 23:52:50 2002
From: redpineseed@telus.net (redpineseed)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 15:52:50 -0700
Subject: [I18n-sig] string.count() chinese chars reliable?
Message-ID: <000501c1fb9a$13bd6840$decae8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net>
YXNzdW1lIHQgaXMgYSBsb25nIHN0cmluZyBvZiBtaXhlZCB0ZXh0IG9mIGNoaW5lc2UgYW5kIGVu
Z2xpc2gNCmlzIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmcgcmVsaWFibGU/DQoNCnggPSAi1tC5+iINCnByaW50IHN0
cmluZy5jb3VudCh0LCB4KQ0KDQp0aGFua3MNCg==
From martin@v.loewis.de Wed May 15 09:18:24 2002
From: martin@v.loewis.de (Martin v. Loewis)
Date: 15 May 2002 10:18:24 +0200
Subject: [I18n-sig] string.count() chinese chars reliable?
In-Reply-To: <000501c1fb9a$13bd6840$decae8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net>
References: <000501c1fb9a$13bd6840$decae8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net>
Message-ID:
"redpineseed" writes:
> assume t is a long string of mixed text of chinese and english
> is the following reliable?
>
> print string.count(t, x)
That depends on the value of t. If it is a single byte (e.g. ASCII
character), and if the encoding of x is Big5, then it is not reliable
- you may find occurrences of the ASCII byte which are part of a
multi-byte sequence.
It would be more reliable if you use Unicode.
Regards,
Martin
From lolita86@libero.it Thu May 23 18:25:03 2002
From: lolita86@libero.it (lolita)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 00.25.02 +0200
Subject: [I18n-sig] Eros e soldi:guadagna con internet 0,08 euro a clic
Message-ID:
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From fredrik.hugosson@decuma.se Wed May 29 09:43:26 2002
From: fredrik.hugosson@decuma.se (Fredrik Hugosson)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:43:26 +0200
Subject: [I18n-sig] Japanese input in Tkinter
Message-ID: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
Hi!
I am new to this mailinglist so please excuse me if this has already
been discussed.
I am using Python 2.2.1 on Windows2000 and try to input and show
Japanese and Chinese characters in an Tkinter Entry widget. The widget
is coupled with a Tkinter textvariable.
The characters shall be used as the facit for handwritten characters and
the facit is also saved to a file, in utf8. When displaying from the
file, everything is working ok.
I set the Windows IME input mode to Japanese, choose hiragana and try to
write hiragana characters (using romanji input) in the Entry box. All I
get in the textvariable are questionmarks (?).
Fonts seem to be installed correctly since characters are displayed
correctly when programatically displayed in the entry box (by setting
the textvariable to the characters unicode value).
Currently I have to work around this problem by using an alternative
input, writing the unicode for each character instead of the character
itself. It works but it is really cumbersome.
Does anyone have a solution or similar experiences?
/Fredrik H
From ishimoto@gembook.org Wed May 29 12:06:59 2002
From: ishimoto@gembook.org (Atsuo Ishimoto)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 20:06:59 +0900
Subject: [I18n-sig] Japanese input in Tkinter
In-Reply-To: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
References: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
Message-ID: <20020529200642.A436.ISHIMOTO@gembook.org>
On Wed, 29 May 2002 10:43:26 +0200
Fredrik Hugosson wrote:
> I set the Windows IME input mode to Japanese, choose hiragana and try to
> write hiragana characters (using romanji input) in the Entry box. All I
> get in the textvariable are questionmarks (?).
Script listed below works fine for me on my environment(w2k Japanese
edition). I think you'll need to update Tcl's system encoding from
Python script, but I don't know how you can do it.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D begin =3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=66rom Tkinter import *
f =3D Frame()
s =3D StringVar()
f.e =3D Entry(f, textvariable=3Ds)
f.e.pack()
def pp():
print unicode(s.get(), "utf-8").encode("ms932")
f.b =3D Button(f, text=3D"prt", command=3Dpp)
f.b.pack()
f.pack()
f.mainloop()
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D end =3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
--------------------------
Atsuo Ishimoto
ishimoto@gembook.org
Homepage:http://www.gembook.jp
From martin@v.loewis.de Wed May 29 23:16:56 2002
From: martin@v.loewis.de (Martin v. Loewis)
Date: 30 May 2002 00:16:56 +0200
Subject: [I18n-sig] Japanese input in Tkinter
In-Reply-To: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
References: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
Message-ID:
Fredrik Hugosson writes:
> Does anyone have a solution or similar experiences?
You should indeed make sure that Tcl finds its encoding files. Try
executing "encoding names" for a tkapp object, to verify you get a
long list of encodings. If you only get the system encoding and UTF-8,
it didn't work - try the FixTk.py script from the Python CVS in this
case.
I'm also surprised that Tk supposedly works with MS IME; I know for
fact that it doesn't work with XIM (on X11). You may want to verify
that Tk really supports MS IME on your system, by installing a plain
Tk 8.3 on your system.
HTH,
Martin
From ishimoto@gembook.org Thu May 30 00:49:31 2002
From: ishimoto@gembook.org (Atsuo Ishimoto)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:49:31 +0900
Subject: [I18n-sig] Japanese input in Tkinter
In-Reply-To:
References: <3CF494AE.EAA510CF@decuma.se>
Message-ID: <20020530084908.C7A2.ISHIMOTO@gembook.org>
On 30 May 2002 00:16:56 +0200
martin@v.loewis.de (Martin v. Loewis) wrote:
> Fredrik Hugosson writes:
>
> > Does anyone have a solution or similar experiences?
>
> You should indeed make sure that Tcl finds its encoding files. Try
> executing "encoding names" for a tkapp object, to verify you get a
> long list of encodings. If you only get the system encoding and UTF-8,
> it didn't work - try the FixTk.py script from the Python CVS in this
> case.
As I know, Python 2.2.1 on Windows doesn't have this problem. I had to
tweak tcl setting for 2.2, though.
>
> I'm also surprised that Tk supposedly works with MS IME; I know for
> fact that it doesn't work with XIM (on X11). You may want to verify
> that Tk really supports MS IME on your system, by installing a plain
> Tk 8.3 on your system.
>
Tcl/Tk works with IME on Windows.
> HTH,
> Martin
>
For people interested in Python in Japanese:
I built custom Python installer for Japanese/Win32.
http://python.jp/pub/sjis-win32/python221jp.exe
This installer contains modified version of python22.dll, Idle, pyexpat, os,
glob, fnmatch. It also contains JapaneseCodecs and Tcl/Tk 8.3.1 modified
for better IME handling.
--------------------------
Atsuo Ishimoto
ishimoto@gembook.org
Homepage:http://www.gembook.jp
From Misha.Wolf@reuters.com Fri May 31 20:27:13 2002
From: Misha.Wolf@reuters.com (Misha.Wolf@reuters.com)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 20:27:13 +0100
Subject: [I18n-sig] 22nd Unicode Conference, September 2002, San Jose, CA, USA
Message-ID:
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Twenty-second International Unicode Conference (IUC22)
Unicode and the Web: Evolution or Revolution?
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September 9-13, 2002
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