From ntoll at ntoll.org  Thu Jul  1 14:05:23 2010
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:05:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Internet connectivity for speakers
Message-ID: <0DE72861-E224-4234-868B-48B82BC33AF5@ntoll.org>

Hi Guys,

I have a question: given last years rather problematic wifi - will there be some means of guaranteeing Internet connectivity for the speakers (I'd love to do a "live" demo during one of my talks and in order to do that I'd need a connection)? Perhaps a CAT5 lead for the sole use of speakers thus by-passing wifi wobbles might be possible..?

It's a nice-to-have rather than essential element of my talk and I don't want to put anyone to any trouble - organising Europython is probably hard enough as it is...

Thanks in advance and looking forward to it,

Nicholas.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 19:15:49 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:15:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Internet connectivity for speakers
In-Reply-To: <0DE72861-E224-4234-868B-48B82BC33AF5@ntoll.org>
References: <0DE72861-E224-4234-868B-48B82BC33AF5@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0DrH8TniszIJQ_HTquT13_bmrQpjKp1X_pWup@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Nicholas,

On 1 July 2010 13:05, Nicholas Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a question: given last years rather problematic wifi

The problems last year were caused by:
1. Delegates over-using the system, for instance downloading videos
and iso images, which you can only call crass stupidity.
2. People messing with the system. For example wifi stopped working in
one room completely. It turned out that a presenter had unplugged the
Access Point from the network, and plugged the cable direct into his
laptop, then left the AP unplugged after his talk.
3. Changes made by the venue to the system which we had put in the
year before (which worked well).

> - will there be some means of guaranteeing Internet connectivity for the speakers (I'd love to do a "live" demo during one of my talks and in order to do that I'd need a connection)? Perhaps a CAT5 lead for the sole use of speakers thus by-passing wifi wobbles might be possible..?

Difficult, in general the cabling infrastructure at the venue does not
permit, and we are not allowed to mess with it.

The wifi should be quite adequate, providing that delegtes are
sensible in their usage. (And using your laptop, eg for remote system
support, during talks is extremely discourteous to the speaker).

We should have extra bandwidth this year, and more access points, so
there really should not be a problem if delegates co-operate.
>
> It's a nice-to-have rather than essential element of my talk and I don't want to put anyone to any trouble - organising Europython is probably hard enough as it is...

you can say that again!


>
> Thanks in advance and looking forward to it,


Thanks, and Best Wishes,

John
-- 
EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July
2010, Birmingham, UK

From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 20:29:55 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:29:55 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Internet connectivity for speakers
In-Reply-To: <0DE72861-E224-4234-868B-48B82BC33AF5@ntoll.org>
References: <0DE72861-E224-4234-868B-48B82BC33AF5@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimx-YE0Ieeq3yiligVAiA-mvE386WqnjH2uTlxT@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Nicholas Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a question: given last years rather problematic wifi - will there be some means of guaranteeing Internet connectivity for the speakers (I'd love to do a "live" demo during one of my talks and in order to do that I'd need a connection)? Perhaps a CAT5 lead for the sole use of speakers thus by-passing wifi wobbles might be possible..?

 a 3G USB dongle as backup i found, generally, worked well, despite
warnings received about mobile phone connectivity being "extremely
patchy" in the concrete-steel-laced building.

 i have two - one three.co.uk and one vodafone: the vodafone one
doesn't have any credit on it but if you're stuck that's easily
rectified.   usbserial modprobe aliases are all that's required -
unlike the newer usb dongles from huawei which deep joy of joys are
registered as a usb memory stick when they power up, and require a USB
message sent to them (for which there is even a debian package
including a udev hotplug script... deep joy) in order to get them to
flip over to usbserial.

 l.

From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk  Thu Jul  1 22:18:48 2010
From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:18:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk slide/paper uploading?
Message-ID: <0469AFFF-6977-4480-965E-6ABF1AE7BF79@tibsnjoan.co.uk>

I remember the deadline for slides/papers to be uploaded was 3rd July, but it's not clear to me where to put them. I saw the page for uploading tutorial materials, and of course there are the information pages for each talk. Where do you want stuff putting? (or emailing, if that is more appropriate).

Oh, and if one has a belated photo of oneself (must sort that out), how do you want that providing?

Looking forwards to the conference,
	Tibs

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 23:45:46 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk slide/paper uploading?
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> From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:18:48 +0100
> To: europython at python.org
> Subject: [EuroPython] Talk slide/paper uploading?
> 
> I remember the deadline for slides/papers to be uploaded was 3rd July, but it's not clear to me where to put them. I saw the page for uploading tutorial materials, and of course there are the information pages for each talk. Where do you want stuff putting? (or emailing, if that is more appropriate).
> 
> Oh, and if one has a belated photo of oneself (must sort that out), how do you want that providing?
> 
> Looking forwards to the conference,
> Tibs
> _______________________________________________
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From gabriele.fucci at s3srl.com  Fri Jul  2 13:43:13 2010
From: gabriele.fucci at s3srl.com (Gabriele Fucci)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:43:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Cancelling Reservation
Message-ID: <AANLkTiman2UatBlIuPJEqgIE7ZzxY2GBmCYRqL_GeHgO@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Organisers,
Unfortunately I can't be in Birmingham for the Conference, so I'd like to
cancel my reservation.
I know this should be done four weeks before the Conference, but I didn't
have any warning before... I hope you will be able to resell it! ;)

My order reference is RC7190476.

I had a 5 days booking at Etap Hotel too, what about that?
Do I have to write them (in this case I need the hotel booking number) or is
it all up to you?

Thank you!
Regards,

Gabriele Fucci
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From ralf at schoenian-online.de  Sun Jul  4 11:33:40 2010
From: ralf at schoenian-online.de (Ralf Schoenian)
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 11:33:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Cancelling Reservation
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiman2UatBlIuPJEqgIE7ZzxY2GBmCYRqL_GeHgO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiman2UatBlIuPJEqgIE7ZzxY2GBmCYRqL_GeHgO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C305574.8030409@schoenian-online.de>

Hello Organisers,

unfortunately, I also have to cancel my reservation - but for private 
reasons. I was so excited joining the best conference on planet earth 
but it's really impossible for me to travel to Birmingham this year.

I hope you can refund me and I am sure there are hundreds at the waiting 
list.

My reference is RC6895486 and for the Etap Hotel RC6895551.

Thank you.
Best Regards,
Ralf Schoenian


Gabriele Fucci wrote:
> Hello Organisers,
> Unfortunately I can't be in Birmingham for the Conference, so I'd like 
> to cancel my reservation.
> I know this should be done four weeks before the Conference, but I 
> didn't have any warning before... I hope you will be able to resell it! ;)
>
> My order reference is RC7190476.
>
> I had a 5 days booking at Etap Hotel too, what about that?
> Do I have to write them (in this case I need the hotel booking number) 
> or is it all up to you?
>
> Thank you!
> Regards,
>
> Gabriele Fucci
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   


From kitblake at infrae.com  Sun Jul  4 18:34:51 2010
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:34:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk slide/paper uploading?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpVMiiJtIy6HMBQq14RUTziO-JwgjLhvLlcpMV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0469AFFF-6977-4480-965E-6ABF1AE7BF79@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
	<AANLkTikpVMiiJtIy6HMBQq14RUTziO-JwgjLhvLlcpMV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD3F4881-A24D-454E-87BA-B16A4A00C04B@infrae.com>

> I remember the deadline for slides/papers to be uploaded was 3rd July,
> but it's not clear to me where to put them. I saw the page for
> uploading tutorial materials, and of course there are the information
> pages for each talk. Where do you want stuff putting? (or emailing, if
> that is more appropriate).

You can upload a file in the 'Additional information' page for your  
talk. You'll need to first upload (don't forget to answer the secret  
question at the top). Then edit that page and link to the file. This  
is the markup I just used:

[[attachment:MobiUserAgentLib.pdf]]

Kit

-- 
Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051


From tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk  Sun Jul  4 19:23:42 2010
From: tibs at tibsnjoan.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:23:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk slide/paper uploading?
In-Reply-To: <CD3F4881-A24D-454E-87BA-B16A4A00C04B@infrae.com>
References: <0469AFFF-6977-4480-965E-6ABF1AE7BF79@tibsnjoan.co.uk>
	<AANLkTikpVMiiJtIy6HMBQq14RUTziO-JwgjLhvLlcpMV@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD3F4881-A24D-454E-87BA-B16A4A00C04B@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <A8095813-9AA8-41E1-88EB-DEBB9F61E8B5@tibsnjoan.co.uk>


On 4 Jul 2010, at 17:34, Kit BLAKE wrote:

>> I remember the deadline for slides/papers to be uploaded was 3rd July,
>> but it's not clear to me where to put them.
> 
> You can upload a file in the 'Additional information' page for your talk. You'll need to first upload (don't forget to answer the secret question at the top). Then edit that page and link to the file. This is the markup I just used:
> 
> [[attachment:MobiUserAgentLib.pdf]]

Thanks. In the end, what I did was to put links to the (google code) location of the talk - hopefully that will be enough.

Tibs

From andrew.francis at mail.mcgill.ca  Mon Jul  5 15:32:00 2010
From: andrew.francis at mail.mcgill.ca (Andrew Francis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:32:00 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Slightly Late submitting Talk
Message-ID: <42247FB952EF114FA8E08D5EB8120FEBE6B56CB25B@EXMBXVS4B.campus.mcgill.ca>

Dear EuroPython Organizers:

I am doing the talk "Implementing Go's Select with Stackless.py." I am slightly late with
my submission. I am traveling to England today. I will be able to get the final version of
the talk in by Wednesday/Thursday. I hope this is not a problem.

Cheers,
Andrew Francis

From andrew.francis at mail.mcgill.ca  Mon Jul  5 15:33:52 2010
From: andrew.francis at mail.mcgill.ca (Andrew Francis)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:33:52 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Late Submission Continued
Message-ID: <42247FB952EF114FA8E08D5EB8120FEBE6B56CB25C@EXMBXVS4B.campus.mcgill.ca>

Dear EuroPython Organisers:

P.S I am sorry for the inconvenience. And once again, thank you for
accepting my talk. I am looking forward to coming to Birmingham and EuroPython 2010.

Cheers,
Andrew

From vikram at newmanonline.org.uk  Mon Jul  5 17:54:38 2010
From: vikram at newmanonline.org.uk (Vikram Bhandoh)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:54:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Cancelling Reservation
Message-ID: <AANLkTilHpdRldwRD8jMhfd-VxsLcEWQL4OKAPHjna4IJ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Organisers,

Due to unforeseen circumstances I have to cancel my reservation.
It is not possible for me to be in Birmingham this time around.

My reference is RC7157620. Please let me know what is the process
to get the refund.

I have a separate hotel booking which I can cancel directly.

Thank you
Vikram Bhandoh
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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Mon Jul  5 17:55:52 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:55:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Session Chairs required
Message-ID: <4C320088.2020604@thegrindstone.me.uk>

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Hi

There are still plenty of talks left that need session chairs.

A description of the role of the session chair can be found on the wiki:
http://wiki.europython.eu/SessionTeam

"The primary duty of the session chair is to make sure that the speakers
start, and more importantly, stop on time. It is not fair to other
speakers or to delegates if the conference has fallen behind the timetable."

If you'd like to help, but don't want to over-commit, feel free to
volunteer to chair a limited number of talks. Every little helps!

We will give a briefing to all session chairs at the start of the
conference to ensure that everyone feels comfortable with what is
expected of them.

Being a session chair only takes a few minutes at the start and end of
each talk session but it makes the proceedings run much more smoothly.
It also makes the speakers feel more relaxed if there is someone there
to great them and ensure that they have what they need and to help solve
any issues (or at least sympathise).

So please sign up to chair a few sessions. Just add your name to the
Session Chairs table on the wiki:
http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Session_Chairs.

If you have an questions please drop me an email and I will do what I
can to answer them.

See you all at the conference.

Richard
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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Tue Jul  6 13:08:24 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:08:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
	<h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>
	<m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinh0YUlwWv2tiwcJf6hcI2D7Nvkugj9tDxeUot5@mail.gmail.com>

Here is my poster attached. It is A1-sized, color.

Is it okay?

Do you want to give me the contact for printing now?

Ram.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively desirable. It is of
>>> value to delegates. Anyone have any objections?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
>>>
>>> In my opinion this would be okay.
>>>
>>>  +1
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>>  Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython.
>>>> (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
>>>>
>>>
>> Sorry to hear that
>>
>>>
>>>>  I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
>>>> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project,
>>>> GarlicSim <http://garlicsim.org>. The poster will introduce the project
>>>> and show screenshots with explanations.
>>>>
>>>>  Would that be acceptable?
>>>>
>>>
>> Yes!
>>
>>>
>>>>  (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it
>>>> printed.)
>>>>
>>>>
>> You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and not
>> reliant on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do this.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> John
>>
>
> That would be great. When the time comes I'll send you the PDF for
> approval, and then you could give me the contact for printing. You may email
> me the total of the printing costs and I'll paypal it to you.
>
> Ram.
>



-- 
Sincerely,
Ram Rachum
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From geoff.bache at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 10:34:01 2010
From: geoff.bache at gmail.com (Geoff Bache)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:34:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Last year I got sent a list of participants for my tutorial
beforehand. Will this be sent out this year? It would be useful to
know how many people to expect.

Also, I've added a bunch of instructions to the wiki but I don't know
if people will find them. Will they be mailed and pointed at them?

Regards,
Geoff

From richardjones at optushome.com.au  Wed Jul  7 11:46:38 2010
From: richardjones at optushome.com.au (Richard Jones)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:46:38 +1000
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinjEdUciL5-D11I-GkW3sfLTDM4cLzNxY2r2VuK@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com> wrote:
> Last year I got sent a list of participants for my tutorial
> beforehand. Will this be sent out this year? It would be useful to
> know how many people to expect.
>
> Also, I've added a bunch of instructions to the wiki but I don't know
> if people will find them. Will they be mailed and pointed at them?

Also will the tutorials be recorded and uploaded?


     Richard

From tartley at tartley.com  Wed Jul  7 13:16:32 2010
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:16:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C346210.20608@tartley.com>

Hey,

I can't help with the first question (I don't think delegates have 
booked for specific tutorials, have they? I don't recall doing myself, 
although I have booked to attend tutorial days.) Last year the tutorials 
I gave or attended had between 10 and 20 attendees.

Regarding the wiki page: I don't know of any current plan to email 
tutorial attendees with information like this.

There is a wiki page already set up for each talk and tutorial. I have 
taken the liberty of copying the wiki page you created over to your 
tutorial wiki page, here:
http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/HandsOn%20Testing%20With%20Texttest

The advantage of this is that this page is linked to ("Additional 
Information...") from the bottom of the description of your tutorial:
http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk104

Hopefully this somewhat mitigates the need for sending an email.

Best regards,

     Jonathan


On 07/07/2010 09:34, Geoff Bache wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Last year I got sent a list of participants for my tutorial
> beforehand. Will this be sent out this year? It would be useful to
> know how many people to expect.
>
> Also, I've added a bunch of instructions to the wiki but I don't know
> if people will find them. Will they be mailed and pointed at them?
>
> Regards,
> Geoff
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>    

-- 
Jonathan Hartley      Made of meat.      http://tartley.com
tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley



From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:43:04 2010
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:43:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinLhp1U9xHyFr0mVuIX5GMIFg6ud003280CO-Ij@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

On 7 July 2010 09:34, Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com> wrote:
> Last year I got sent a list of participants for my tutorial
> beforehand. Will this be sent out this year? It would be useful to
> know how many people to expect.

Yes. Last year we had a tutorial booking system, where people
registered for their first choice of tutorials, so we could shift the
rooms around so the rooms did not overfilled. This year we have more
space so it is less of a problem but I am still planning on allowing
people to state their preference.

> Also, I've added a bunch of instructions to the wiki but I don't know
> if people will find them. Will they be mailed and pointed at them?

Good idea, we can perhaps make a wiki category and email all the
tutorial attendees that.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From geoff.bache at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 14:05:15 2010
From: geoff.bache at gmail.com (Geoff Bache)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:05:15 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <4C346210.20608@tartley.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C346210.20608@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim126v8G1dDqTBrbYxD2gP1fBAQMFAOzX-1bVTq@mail.gmail.com>

> There is a wiki page already set up for each talk and tutorial. I have taken
> the liberty of copying the wiki page you created over to your tutorial wiki
> page, here:
> http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/HandsOn%20Testing%20With%20Texttest

Thanks. Was a bit fooled by there being pages under "Tutorials" when it
seems tutorial info is meant to go under "Talks"...

It seems my file attachment has disappeared after you moved my page.
Could you possibly restore it?

Regards,
Geoff

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Wed Jul  7 14:37:11 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:37:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinLhp1U9xHyFr0mVuIX5GMIFg6ud003280CO-Ij@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinLhp1U9xHyFr0mVuIX5GMIFg6ud003280CO-Ij@mail.gmail.com>
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On 07/07/2010 12:43, Zeth wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> On 7 July 2010 09:34, Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Last year I got sent a list of participants for my tutorial
>> beforehand. Will this be sent out this year? It would be useful to
>> know how many people to expect.
> 
> Yes. Last year we had a tutorial booking system, where people
> registered for their first choice of tutorials, so we could shift the
> rooms around so the rooms did not overfilled. This year we have more
> space so it is less of a problem but I am still planning on allowing
> people to state their preference.
> 
>> Also, I've added a bunch of instructions to the wiki but I don't know
>> if people will find them. Will they be mailed and pointed at them?
> 
> Good idea, we can perhaps make a wiki category and email all the
> tutorial attendees that.
> 

We have this already. The pages are linked from the talk abstracts
(http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/). There is a page for
each tutorial and for each talk. There is also a wiki category:
http://wiki.europython.eu/CategoryTalks.

We were going to publicise this as soon as the timetable has stopped moving.

Regards

Richard
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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Wed Jul  7 14:58:43 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:58:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial participants
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim126v8G1dDqTBrbYxD2gP1fBAQMFAOzX-1bVTq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikVa8JTt9ug_aCQZfR9GiFjmrHUf2H7G_EPtZYI@mail.gmail.com>	<4C346210.20608@tartley.com>
	<AANLkTim126v8G1dDqTBrbYxD2gP1fBAQMFAOzX-1bVTq@mail.gmail.com>
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On 07/07/2010 13:05, Geoff Bache wrote:
>> There is a wiki page already set up for each talk and tutorial. I have taken
>> the liberty of copying the wiki page you created over to your tutorial wiki
>> page, here:
>> http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/HandsOn%20Testing%20With%20Texttest
> 
> Thanks. Was a bit fooled by there being pages under "Tutorials" when it
> seems tutorial info is meant to go under "Talks"...
> 

I see the confusion. The 'Tutorials' page was copied over from last
years wiki. I have updated the page with a list of this years tutorials,
now pointing to the same 'Additional information' pages that are linked
from the Talk Abstracts.

Hopefully everyone will be able to find the information that they need.

Richard
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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jul  9 22:53:36 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:53:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinh0YUlwWv2tiwcJf6hcI2D7Nvkugj9tDxeUot5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>	<h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>	<m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Ram

Unfortunately John is on holiday until Tuesday and I am not sure that
anyone else can answer your question.

I am sure that John is going to have _a lot_ of emails to get through
when he gets back but I am sure that he will get back to you.

Thanks

Richard


On 06/07/2010 12:08, cool-RR wrote:
> Here is my poster attached. It is A1-sized, color.
> 
> Is it okay?
> 
> Do you want to give me the contact for printing now?
> 
> Ram.
> 
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com
> <mailto:cool-rr at cool-rr.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com
>     <mailto:funthyme at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hello!
> 
>         On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com
>         <mailto:tartley at tartley.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively
>             desirable. It is of value to delegates. Anyone have any
>             objections?
> 
> 
> 
>             On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
>>             In my opinion this would be okay. 
>>
>>             +1
>>
>>             On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com
>>             <mailto:cool-rr at cool-rr.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Hello,
>>
>>                 Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the
>>                 next EuroPython. (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
> 
> 
>         Sorry to hear that
> 
>>
>>                 I would be interested though in having my friend Horst
>>                 Jens, who is attending EuroPython, put up a poster
>>                 about my Python project, GarlicSim
>>                 <http://garlicsim.org>. The poster will introduce the
>>                 project and show screenshots with explanations.
>>
>>                 Would that be acceptable?
> 
> 
>         Yes!
> 
>>
>>                 (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before
>>                 having it printed.)
>>
> 
>         You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and
>         not reliant on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do this.
> 
>         Best wishes
> 
>         John
> 
> 
>     That would be great. When the time comes I'll send you the PDF for
>     approval, and then you could give me the contact for printing. You
>     may email me the total of the printing costs and I'll paypal it to you.
> 
>     Ram.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> Ram Rachum
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Fri Jul  9 22:57:51 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:57:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <4C378C50.8010609@thegrindstone.me.uk>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
	<h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>
	<m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for the info Richard.

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Richard Taylor <
rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:

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>
> Hi Ram
>
> Unfortunately John is on holiday until Tuesday and I am not sure that
> anyone else can answer your question.
>
> I am sure that John is going to have _a lot_ of emails to get through
> when he gets back but I am sure that he will get back to you.
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 06/07/2010 12:08, cool-RR wrote:
> > Here is my poster attached. It is A1-sized, color.
> >
> > Is it okay?
> >
> > Do you want to give me the contact for printing now?
> >
> > Ram.
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com
> > <mailto:cool-rr at cool-rr.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:funthyme at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Hello!
> >
> >         On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com
> >         <mailto:tartley at tartley.com>> wrote:
> >
> >             Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively
> >             desirable. It is of value to delegates. Anyone have any
> >             objections?
> >
> >
> >
> >             On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
> >>             In my opinion this would be okay.
> >>
> >>             +1
> >>
> >>             On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com
> >>             <mailto:cool-rr at cool-rr.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Hello,
> >>
> >>                 Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the
> >>                 next EuroPython. (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
> >
> >
> >         Sorry to hear that
> >
> >>
> >>                 I would be interested though in having my friend Horst
> >>                 Jens, who is attending EuroPython, put up a poster
> >>                 about my Python project, GarlicSim
> >>                 <http://garlicsim.org>. The poster will introduce the
> >>                 project and show screenshots with explanations.
> >>
> >>                 Would that be acceptable?
> >
> >
> >         Yes!
> >
> >>
> >>                 (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before
> >>                 having it printed.)
> >>
> >
> >         You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and
> >         not reliant on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do
> this.
> >
> >         Best wishes
> >
> >         John
> >
> >
> >     That would be great. When the time comes I'll send you the PDF for
> >     approval, and then you could give me the contact for printing. You
> >     may email me the total of the printing costs and I'll paypal it to
> you.
> >
> >     Ram.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> > Ram Rachum
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From fabio.pliger at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 17:39:01 2010
From: fabio.pliger at gmail.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:39:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] talk cancelation and hotel refund
Message-ID: <AANLkTilxtvk9yO-MnTZG6ao40ausD_rJkIoX_EbWiqXo@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Due to some health affairs in my family i won't be able to come this year.
I'm sorry to comunicate this now, but it's a had this new only 2 days ago.

This means i won't be able to have my talk and won't be able to help. I'm
really sorry for that.

As I've booked the hotel using the conference booking system, can I directly
contact the hotel to cancel my reservation? It'd be good to still have the
possibility to cancel the hotel as I'm getting no refund for my flight
cancellation. Don't need refund for the conference ticket as it's the only
help i can give to the conference this year.

I'm sorry again.

Thanks

Fabio
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From terry at jon.es  Sun Jul 11 15:56:48 2010
From: terry at jon.es (Terry Jones)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:56:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Paying someone else's EuroPython registration
Message-ID: <19513.52640.392964.668644@jon.es>

I'd like to pay for someone else's EuroPython registration, but when I
enter his details and click to pay with a credit card, it displays his name
as the cardholder and that can't be edited. Is there some way I can
register someone else but pay with my credit card?

Terry

From kitblake at infrae.com  Mon Jul 12 10:26:02 2010
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:26:02 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talks timetable and session chair amendment
Message-ID: <4C94B611-0314-4279-A0E9-02A941BCABD1@infrae.com>

Hi,
I signed up for session chairing all day monday, but now I see that my  
"Web/mobile templating in Silva" talk has been shifted to monday after  
lunch. This is a welcome change since it gives us a chance to do an  
introduction with a workshop following. But it means I can't session  
chair the first afternoon slot. I took myself out of the table.  
Somebody else needs to cover Adrian Bout Hall for that slot.

Two, we'd like to plan a BOF session, a "Silva templating workshop"  
during tuesday from 11:00 to 12:30. Could you add that to the timetable?

Thanks,
Kit


-- 
Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051


From fiona at justfiona.com  Mon Jul 12 13:14:57 2010
From: fiona at justfiona.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:14:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
Message-ID: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>

Hey all,

myself and my boyfriend booked the Premier Inn through EuroPy website 
when we registered our tickets. We got our registraton e-mail which, we 
assume, is our EuroPython ticket too.
But we didn't get any information about the hotel. Infact I had to do 
some digging on the EuroPython website to even find the address of the 
place.
Will we get an e-mail confirming the hotel booking? When we get there is 
the room in our name or do we quote EuroPython? To confirm, is it 
actually the one at 20 Bridge St, B1 2JR?

Thanks,
Fiona

From tavspam at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 16:27:34 2010
From: tavspam at gmail.com (Tom Viner)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:27:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
In-Reply-To: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikiTbnizW4Xnc1idYnjFDgopdRM3ELErghz0cjO@mail.gmail.com>

Likewise for the other hotel you re-sold rooms for, Etap. I found this list
of directions on the Europython site, may be helpful for others:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.europython.eu/pdfs/etap_to_conservatoire.pdf

Looked up Etap Birmingham street address as: 1 Great Colmore Street,
BIRMINGHAM. B15
2AP<https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.europython.eu/pdfs/etap_to_conservatoire.pdf>

(directions start from Bristol Street, but google maps confirms this is right
next to address
above<http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=1+Great+Colmore+Street+B15+2AP+BIRMINGHAM+UNITED+KINGDOM>
)

I was planning to just show my registration email on arrival, I take it this
will be sufficient to gain me an abode for a week?

Cheers,
Tom


On 12 July 2010 12:14, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> myself and my boyfriend booked the Premier Inn through EuroPy website when
> we registered our tickets. We got our registraton e-mail which, we assume,
> is our EuroPython ticket too.
> But we didn't get any information about the hotel. Infact I had to do some
> digging on the EuroPython website to even find the address of the place.
> Will we get an e-mail confirming the hotel booking? When we get there is
> the room in our name or do we quote EuroPython? To confirm, is it actually
> the one at 20 Bridge St, B1 2JR?
>
> Thanks,
> Fiona
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Mon Jul 12 17:36:33 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:36:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikiTbnizW4Xnc1idYnjFDgopdRM3ELErghz0cjO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTikiTbnizW4Xnc1idYnjFDgopdRM3ELErghz0cjO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilOHtXfMv8VSFm8Myp6L8Fn807-aJktn0sbvQHu@mail.gmail.com>

You can find a map with all of the hotels marked on it via the EuroPython
website.

        http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/

If you head down to the bottom of the page and click on: "View Larger Map"
you should find the information that you need.

Thanks

Richard


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Tom Viner <tavspam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Likewise for the other hotel you re-sold rooms for, Etap. I found this list
> of directions on the Europython site, may be helpful for others:
> https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.europython.eu/pdfs/etap_to_conservatoire.pdf
>
> Looked up Etap Birmingham street address as: 1 Great Colmore Street,
> BIRMINGHAM. B15 2AP<https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.europython.eu/pdfs/etap_to_conservatoire.pdf>
>
> (directions start from Bristol Street, but google maps confirms this is right
> next to address above<http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=1+Great+Colmore+Street+B15+2AP+BIRMINGHAM+UNITED+KINGDOM>
> )
>
> I was planning to just show my registration email on arrival, I take it
> this will be sufficient to gain me an abode for a week?
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
>
> On 12 July 2010 12:14, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> myself and my boyfriend booked the Premier Inn through EuroPy website when
>> we registered our tickets. We got our registraton e-mail which, we assume,
>> is our EuroPython ticket too.
>> But we didn't get any information about the hotel. Infact I had to do some
>> digging on the EuroPython website to even find the address of the place.
>> Will we get an e-mail confirming the hotel booking? When we get there is
>> the room in our name or do we quote EuroPython? To confirm, is it actually
>> the one at 20 Bridge St, B1 2JR?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Fiona
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
>> http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 12 19:36:01 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:36:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilOHtXfMv8VSFm8Myp6L8Fn807-aJktn0sbvQHu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTikiTbnizW4Xnc1idYnjFDgopdRM3ELErghz0cjO@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTilOHtXfMv8VSFm8Myp6L8Fn807-aJktn0sbvQHu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilgzoGsD4tMyv9cRw_MiDH38AUiSTXdBKpPgN-T@mail.gmail.com>

On 12 July 2010 16:36, Richard Taylor <rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
> You can find a map with all of the hotels marked on it via the EuroPython
> website.
> ?? ? ? ?http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/
> If you head down to the bottom of the page and click on: "View Larger Map"
> you should find the information that you need.

I've updated this map for this years conference. The 2 conference
hotels are shown as red beds.

-- 
Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
http://moreati.org.uk/blog

From horst at zerokspot.com  Mon Jul 12 19:50:09 2010
From: horst at zerokspot.com (Horst Gutmann)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:50:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
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References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTikiTbnizW4Xnc1idYnjFDgopdRM3ELErghz0cjO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilOHtXfMv8VSFm8Myp6L8Fn807-aJktn0sbvQHu@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks you :-)

That reminds me that I have to print out a map with the local
Walkabout marked with some bright arrows :D

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk> wrote:
> On 12 July 2010 16:36, Richard Taylor <rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
>> You can find a map with all of the hotels marked on it via the EuroPython
>> website.
>> ?? ? ? ?http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/
>> If you head down to the bottom of the page and click on: "View Larger Map"
>> you should find the information that you need.
>
> I've updated this map for this years conference. The 2 conference
> hotels are shown as red beds.
>
> --
> Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
> http://moreati.org.uk/blog
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From chef at ghum.de  Mon Jul 12 20:00:52 2010
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:00:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineYQt4uVmO9hY6fTh6DdhFBhB_70CgtJe67D-k@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
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	<AANLkTilOHtXfMv8VSFm8Myp6L8Fn807-aJktn0sbvQHu@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilgzoGsD4tMyv9cRw_MiDH38AUiSTXdBKpPgN-T@mail.gmail.com>
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Horst,

> That reminds me that I have to print out a map with the local
> Walkabout marked with some bright arrows :D

That is a recommendation for everybody :) it is a VERY short walk from
Newstreet station to the conference and the hotels; IF you choose the
correct exit & the correct direction. But that correct direction does
not really look correct without a map in your hand ...


best wishes,

Harald

... who 2009 walked around 60min to his hotel, because of starting in
the wrong direction ...


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70435 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
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-
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From sanneh27 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul 12 20:30:54 2010
From: sanneh27 at hotmail.com (baboucarr sanneh)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:30:54 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Enquiry
Message-ID: <SNT144-w65112E16CC5513A7F2EE8D5B80@phx.gbl>


Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to attend your conference next year and i am from The Gambia ,West Africa.I would like to know how much it will cost me to attend to the conference and 
if there are sponsorships also available for people to attend the conference..Thank you
Regards,
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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 12 20:55:00 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:55:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Enquiry
In-Reply-To: <SNT144-w65112E16CC5513A7F2EE8D5B80@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT144-w65112E16CC5513A7F2EE8D5B80@phx.gbl>
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On 12 July 2010 19:30, baboucarr sanneh <sanneh27 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to attend your conference next year and i am from The Gambia
> ,West Africa.I would like to know how much it will cost me to attend to the
> conference and
> if there are sponsorships also available for people to attend the
> conference..Thank you

Europython 2011 will be held in Italy. The date has not been announced
and registration has not been announced. Please stay subscribed to the
Europython list for announcements.
-- 
Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
http://moreati.org.uk/blog

From funthyme at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 23:58:36 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:58:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Paying someone else's EuroPython registration
In-Reply-To: <19513.52640.392964.668644@jon.es>
References: <19513.52640.392964.668644@jon.es>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinM_YKU1g1c2_hMcqXu7CFlGy3IJ54Wkl109454@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Terry,

On 11 July 2010 14:56, Terry Jones <terry at jon.es> wrote:
> I'd like to pay for someone else's EuroPython registration, but when I
> enter his details and click to pay with a credit card, it displays his name
> as the cardholder and that can't be edited. Is there some way I can
> register someone else but pay with my credit card?

REgister your colleague and select 'Payment by Phone'. and ring
through your card details.

Best wishes,

John
--

From terry at jon.es  Tue Jul 13 00:23:32 2010
From: terry at jon.es (Terry Jones)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:23:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Paying someone else's EuroPython registration
In-Reply-To: Your message at 22:58:36 on Monday, 12 July 2010
References: <19513.52640.392964.668644@jon.es>
	<AANLkTinM_YKU1g1c2_hMcqXu7CFlGy3IJ54Wkl109454@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19515.38372.729992.741011@jon.es>

Thanks John!

Terry

From guido at google.com  Tue Jul 13 10:01:10 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:01:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this Saturday
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>

Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
around noon.

I tend to travel pretty casual so if it's as easy as "catch the
Heathrow express to X, then the underground to Y, then there are
trains to Birmingham station Z every N minutes (change trains in P, Q
and R)" that should be sufficient. I'm assuming I can just show up at
the station and buy tickets, it doesn't look such a big distance (plus
I don't have a printer here). From the map at
http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Tue Jul 13 10:15:55 2010
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:15:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
 Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.vfrvwsrl5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 13.07.2010, 10:01 Uhr, schrieb Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com>:

> From the map at
> http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
> Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.

Hi Guido,

Snow Hill might be the closest station but Birmingham New Street is the  
main station in Birmingham. You are best off getting the Tube to Euston  
(about 45 minutes) where you can get the train to New Street. You will  
have to buy separate tickets for the Tube and the train but you will be  
able to buy them at the stations.

http://nationalrail.co.uk is the website for train travel in the UK -  
takes about 2 hours 30 minutes.

Charlie
-- 
Charlie Clark
Managing Director
Clark Consulting & Research
German Office
Helmholtzstr. 20
D?sseldorf
D- 40215
Tel: +49-211-600-3657
Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

From holger at merlinux.eu  Tue Jul 13 10:12:30 2010
From: holger at merlinux.eu (holger krekel)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:12:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial location / handouts / numbers?
Message-ID: <20100713081230.GI14601@trillke.net>

Hi, 

three tutorial-related questions: 

Where will the tutorials on the first day (17th July) take place? 

Is there some means to print out handouts for tutorials? 

Are there already some numbers for distribution of people to tutorials? 

thanks for any help,
holger

From memooney at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 10:26:47 2010
From: memooney at gmail.com (Mary Mooney)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:26:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <op.vfrvwsrl5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.vfrvwsrl5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilu-wAA62YPeJ3UUyrdj6Mvg9_Qj1KkwQeKnfWi@mail.gmail.com>

The national rail web site suggested by Charlie will take you to a rail
ticket purchasing site.

As a general rule, trains from London to Snow Hill are slower but cheaper
than those arriving at New Street.

You can walk up and buy tickets on the day - but they are usually
horrendously expensive.

You can book your tickets on line and collect them from a machine at the
station, using a reference number that has been emailed to you and your
debit/credit card.


------
Mary Mooney DEUK

"A well-developed sense of humour is the pole that adds balance to your
steps as you walk the tightrope of life.
William Arthur Ward"

Q:    What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous?
A:    A canary with the super-user password.


On 13 July 2010 09:15, Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>wrote:

> Am 13.07.2010, 10:01 Uhr, schrieb Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com>:
>
>
>  From the map at
>> http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
>> Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.
>>
>
> Hi Guido,
>
> Snow Hill might be the closest station but Birmingham New Street is the
> main station in Birmingham. You are best off getting the Tube to Euston
> (about 45 minutes) where you can get the train to New Street. You will have
> to buy separate tickets for the Tube and the train but you will be able to
> buy them at the stations.
>
> http://nationalrail.co.uk is the website for train travel in the UK -
> takes about 2 hours 30 minutes.
>
> Charlie
> --
> Charlie Clark
> Managing Director
> Clark Consulting & Research
> German Office
> Helmholtzstr. 20
> D?sseldorf
> D- 40215
> Tel: +49-211-600-3657
> Mobile: +49-178-782-6226
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Tue Jul 13 10:29:27 2010
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:29:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87EA360F-FCFB-4598-91E2-5D7A05ADB102@ntoll.org>

Here's how I'd do it.

Hop on the Heathrow Express -> Paddington Station.

Circle or Hammersmith & City Tube lines from Paddington -> Euston Square Tube station.

*Walk* from Euston Square Tube station to Euston rail station (5 mins well signposted).

Euston -> Birmingham New Street station. (Virgin trains are much faster [1h20mins] but more expensive [?40-ish for a single]. London-Midland = cheap but slow depending on where they stop). Trains go every 15-20 minutes depending on the time of day.

Birmingham Conservatoire is a 5-10 minute walk from Birmingham New Street (for a fast walker like me).

You might be able to buy a single ticket at the Heathrow Station that covers the whole journey rather than buying a Zone 6 journey to central London then the Virgin/London Midland ticket to Birmingham. 

Finally, make sure your Euston -> Birmingham ticket is *valid* as both Virgin & London Midland have all sorts of daft restrictions that they don't make obvious - the ticket clerk will be able to sell you the right one since the ticket inspector on the train would be delighted to charge you extra if he catches you out.

HTH

Nicholas.

p.s. Apologies if you get this twice ;-)

On 13 Jul 2010, at 09:01, Guido van Rossum wrote:

> Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
> Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
> around noon.
> 
> I tend to travel pretty casual so if it's as easy as "catch the
> Heathrow express to X, then the underground to Y, then there are
> trains to Birmingham station Z every N minutes (change trains in P, Q
> and R)" that should be sufficient. I'm assuming I can just show up at
> the station and buy tickets, it doesn't look such a big distance (plus
> I don't have a printer here). From the map at
> http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
> Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.
> 
> -- 
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From tartley at tartley.com  Tue Jul 13 11:11:50 2010
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:11:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial location / handouts / numbers?
In-Reply-To: <20100713081230.GI14601@trillke.net>
References: <20100713081230.GI14601@trillke.net>
Message-ID: <4C3C2DD6.3040904@tartley.com>

  Hey Holger,

The location of the tutorials is as indicated on the timetable:
http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/

New Lecture Theatre 	Lecture Room 1 	Lecture Room 2 	Lecture Room 3 
Band Room


I'm pretty sure all these rooms are within the music conservatory, so 
just show up there and there will be people or signage on reception to 
point you in the right direction.


I don't know about printing. I think there was a deadline for submission 
of tutorial materials to be printed by us, I think it was over a week 
ago. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Otherwise, I don't know what to suggest 
other than finding a print shop.


There are not yet known numbers for tutorial attendees. We haven't asked 
attendees to select their tutorials yet. I hope we can do that this week 
and let you know a few days before the conference. Sorry for the short 
notice on that.



Best regards,

     Jonathan


On 13/07/2010 09:12, holger krekel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> three tutorial-related questions:
>
> Where will the tutorials on the first day (17th July) take place?
>
> Is there some means to print out handouts for tutorials?
>
> Are there already some numbers for distribution of people to tutorials?
>
> thanks for any help,
> holger
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

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From tb at entropy.me.uk  Tue Jul 13 10:58:59 2010
From: tb at entropy.me.uk (Timothy Baldock)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:58:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham
	this	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <87EA360F-FCFB-4598-91E2-5D7A05ADB102@ntoll.org>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<87EA360F-FCFB-4598-91E2-5D7A05ADB102@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <4C3C2AD3.3090401@entropy.me.uk>

One thing to note here, the Heathrow Connect service also runs from
Heathrow T4/T123 to Paddington, but stops along the way. It takes about
twice as long but costs less than half as much. They're every 30
minutes, and the transfer from T5 to T123 is free. Just a thought if you
want to save some money :)

You could also just get the Piccadilly line from Heathrow T5, which is
even cheaper, change at Green Park for the Victoria line to Euston, then
take the train up to Birmingham. This will take you maybe 50% longer
than the train+tube method via Paddington.


On 13/07/2010 09:29, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
> Here's how I'd do it.
> 
> Hop on the Heathrow Express -> Paddington Station.
> 
> Circle or Hammersmith & City Tube lines from Paddington -> Euston Square Tube station.
> 
> *Walk* from Euston Square Tube station to Euston rail station (5 mins well signposted).
> 
> Euston -> Birmingham New Street station. (Virgin trains are much faster [1h20mins] but more expensive [?40-ish for a single]. London-Midland = cheap but slow depending on where they stop). Trains go every 15-20 minutes depending on the time of day.
> 
> Birmingham Conservatoire is a 5-10 minute walk from Birmingham New Street (for a fast walker like me).
> 
> You might be able to buy a single ticket at the Heathrow Station that covers the whole journey rather than buying a Zone 6 journey to central London then the Virgin/London Midland ticket to Birmingham. 
> 
> Finally, make sure your Euston -> Birmingham ticket is *valid* as both Virgin & London Midland have all sorts of daft restrictions that they don't make obvious - the ticket clerk will be able to sell you the right one since the ticket inspector on the train would be delighted to charge you extra if he catches you out.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Nicholas.
> 
> p.s. Apologies if you get this twice ;-)
> 
> On 13 Jul 2010, at 09:01, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 
>> Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
>> Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
>> around noon.
>>
>> I tend to travel pretty casual so if it's as easy as "catch the
>> Heathrow express to X, then the underground to Y, then there are
>> trains to Birmingham station Z every N minutes (change trains in P, Q
>> and R)" that should be sufficient. I'm assuming I can just show up at
>> the station and buy tickets, it doesn't look such a big distance (plus
>> I don't have a printer here). From the map at
>> http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
>> Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From BAV853 at bham.ac.uk  Tue Jul 13 11:05:14 2010
From: BAV853 at bham.ac.uk (Bhima van der Molen)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:05:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
 Saturday
Message-ID: <FE3ED3A2-77DC-4217-843F-4C2B41B5B478@bham.ac.uk>

Hi Guido,

The following website shows the time table for coaches to birmingham from heathrow.

http://www.nationalexpress.com/bp/b2.cfm?id=238837856

This will be by far your cheapest option, with a travel time of 2: 30hrs. Saves you having to travel into London, it can work out quicker too, as you won't have to wait for your connections etc.

Bhima

-------------------------
Bhima A van der Molen
PhD Research Student

CSB School of Biosciences
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham B16 9HY
United Kingdom

e-mail: bav853 at bham.ac.uk

----- Reply message -----
From: "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 09:05
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this Saturday
To: "europython at python.org" <europython at python.org>

Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
around noon.

I tend to travel pretty casual so if it's as easy as "catch the
Heathrow express to X, then the underground to Y, then there are
trains to Birmingham station Z every N minutes (change trains in P, Q
and R)" that should be sufficient. I'm assuming I can just show up at
the station and buy tickets, it doesn't look such a big distance (plus
I don't have a printer here). From the map at
http://www.europython.eu/about/maps/ it looks like the value of Z is
Snow Hill Rail? Walking to the hotel seems no problem.

--
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
_______________________________________________
EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From ms at cerenity.org  Tue Jul 13 12:04:18 2010
From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:04:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007131104.18761.ms@cerenity.org>

On Tuesday 13 July 2010 09:01:10 Guido van Rossum wrote:
> Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
> Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
> around noon.

This is where traintimes.org.uk comes into its own:

   http://traintimes.org.uk/heathrow%20terminal%205/birmingham/12:00/saturday

It's recommendations are generally pretty close to common sense, and match the 
rest of the thread - with one exception - it notes that there's engineering 
work on the underground on 17th and 18th this weekend. 

The quickest route would appear to be a bus. 

The route I'd take would be tube on piccadilly line to Kings Cross, and then 
walk from Kings Cross to Euston. (Come out station, turn right down Euston 
Road; it's about a 10 minute walk - 1/2 mile - and I don't walk fast) Then 
train from Euston to Birmingham New Street.

I wouldn't take it because it's the quickest, but because it's the least 
hassle.


Michael.

From gurgeh73 at free.fr  Tue Jul 13 13:48:04 2010
From: gurgeh73 at free.fr (richard barran)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:48:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
Message-ID: <73F2E9D9-8F71-4597-94B0-68AE8E3B5496@free.fr>

Hello,
I can see from the wiki that there are plans to make audio recordings of the talks. Are there any plans to also video them?
Thanks,
Richard Barran

From mfoord at python.org  Tue Jul 13 14:17:35 2010
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:17:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <73F2E9D9-8F71-4597-94B0-68AE8E3B5496@free.fr>
References: <73F2E9D9-8F71-4597-94B0-68AE8E3B5496@free.fr>
Message-ID: <4C3C595F.9070201@python.org>

On 13/07/2010 12:48, richard barran wrote:
> Hello,
> I can see from the wiki that there are plans to make audio recordings of the talks. Are there any plans to also video them?
>    

We are hoping to video record as many of the presentations as possible, 
but it will depend on manpower (as does the audio recording). If you are 
able to help it would be much appreciated.

There has been discussion of this on the europython-improve mailing list:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/2010-July/001422.html

You need to be a list subscriber to view the archives:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/

All the best,

Michael Foord

> Thanks,
> Richard Barran
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>    


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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Tue Jul 13 15:40:25 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:40:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <4C3C595F.9070201@python.org>
References: <73F2E9D9-8F71-4597-94B0-68AE8E3B5496@free.fr>
	<4C3C595F.9070201@python.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOMc8d0T6DtEOn0TSHQ0WM4HnV94tswJh6NzO0@mail.gmail.com>

If you would like to help out sign up on the wiki:

   http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity

Thanks

Richard

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Michael Foord <mfoord at python.org> wrote:

> On 13/07/2010 12:48, richard barran wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I can see from the wiki that there are plans to make audio recordings of
>> the talks. Are there any plans to also video them?
>>
>>
>
> We are hoping to video record as many of the presentations as possible, but
> it will depend on manpower (as does the audio recording). If you are able to
> help it would be much appreciated.
>
> There has been discussion of this on the europython-improve mailing list:
>
>
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/2010-July/001422.html
>
> You need to be a list subscriber to view the archives:
>
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/europython-improve/
>
> All the best,
>
> Michael Foord
>
>
>  Thanks,
>> Richard Barran
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
>> http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>
>
>
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From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 16:22:01 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:22:01 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEJCauMmczmNG7s6uvgjwh4EtMtxva99k5I7Nj@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
> Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
> Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
> around noon.

 your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national
express coach: it takes 2hrs 30 mins, is direct (except one very early
one and one late one), and goes at at least these times:

07:00 08:15	09:30 10:45	12:00	13:00	14:15	
15:30	16:45	18:15	19:45	21:30


to travel into euston from heathrow will take over an hour; to travel
by train takes 1hr 30 mins.

even taking 12:00 arrival into account, i'd give serious consideration
to just ... pffh, having some lunch, and wait for the 13:00 coach.

finding the national express coach point at heathrow should be pretty
straightforward: let's have a look...
http://www.heathrow-airport-guide.co.uk/national-express-coach-heathrow.html

 ah _ha_:

"Terminal 5
National Express Coaches to Terminal 5 will use stops 13-16 just
outside the terminal building for pick up and drop off."

but if you really didn't want to do that, go to Terminal 1-2-3, use
the central bus station:

"Terminals 1, 2 and 3
Pick up and drop off points for terminal 1, 2 and 3 are located at the
Central Bus Station, which is just a short walk from the check in area
and is clearly signposted from around the airport."

so, quite straightforward, no messing about with london underground or
buses: get off plane, walk a bit, get lunch, get on coach, arrive
birmingham.

i live about 15 mins from heathrow (ok, it would be if the local buses
were regular and on time) so it's easy for me too.  i'd be mad to get
the train, and i'm really grateful to the person who reminded me a
couple months back that the coaches exist!

l.

From terry at jon.es  Tue Jul 13 16:31:25 2010
From: terry at jon.es (Terry Jones)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:31:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
 Saturday
In-Reply-To: Your message at 14:22:01 on Tuesday, 13 July 2010
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinEJCauMmczmNG7s6uvgjwh4EtMtxva99k5I7Nj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>

> your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national express
> coach

I highly recommend taking a coach too. It's so much easier.

Terry

From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 19:08:05 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:08:05 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Terry Jones <terry at jon.es> wrote:
>> your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national express
>> coach
>
> I highly recommend taking a coach too. It's so much easier.

 anyone else going up on saturday?  what time?

From tartley at tartley.com  Wed Jul 14 10:20:59 2010
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:20:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython: Last minute question for tutorial attendees
Message-ID: <4C3D736B.9030307@tartley.com>

Hello EuroPython attendees,

We've fielded a few questions about where events will take place at the 
start of the conference. To clarify: Whether you are arriving for 
tutorials, or the start of the core conference on Monday, you can just 
turn up to the Birmingham Conservatoire, and people or signage will be 
present on reception to guide your way. The venue details, and links to 
other resources such as directions and maps, are here:
http://www.europython.eu/about/venue/

For those of you who are attending the tutorials this weekend, now is 
your chance to register for which tutorials you want! From the timetable:
http://www.europython.eu/talks/tutorials_timetable/
click on the tutorials to see their description. Click on the 
'Additional Information...' link at the bottom of each tutorial you want 
to attend. This will take you to a wiki page for that specific tutorial, 
and you should add your name to the 'Attendees' section. These choices 
are not absolutely final, but are critical for us and tutors to judge 
things like how many handouts to print.

Many thanks, and have a fabulous conference. See you there!

     Jonathan Hartley

-- 
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From briandanks at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 14 11:46:55 2010
From: briandanks at btinternet.com (Brian Danks)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:46:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Fw: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order ref:
	RC7847074
Message-ID: <968019.42621.qm@web87116.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I have purchased two delegates for Sat and Sun;

can you please change the name accordingly from Brian Danks to Keagan Danks in the reservation RC7847074.

Appreciated,
Brian














































































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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Wed Jul 14 12:05:28 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:05:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinh0YUlwWv2tiwcJf6hcI2D7Nvkugj9tDxeUot5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
	<h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>
	<m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>
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Nudge.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:

> Here is my poster attached. It is A1-sized, color.
>
> Is it okay?
>
> Do you want to give me the contact for printing now?
>
> Ram.
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively desirable. It is of
>>>> value to delegates. Anyone have any objections?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion this would be okay.
>>>>
>>>>  +1
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython.
>>>>> (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
>>>>> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project,
>>>>> GarlicSim <http://garlicsim.org>. The poster will introduce the
>>>>> project and show screenshots with explanations.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Would that be acceptable?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes!
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it
>>>>> printed.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and not
>>> reliant on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do this.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> That would be great. When the time comes I'll send you the PDF for
>> approval, and then you could give me the contact for printing. You may email
>> me the total of the printing costs and I'll paypal it to you.
>>
>> Ram.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Ram Rachum
>



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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 13:35:11 2010
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:35:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Help Required : Recording Videos of Sessions
Message-ID: <AANLkTil76x3zEQ7SGXWKLJ0NqFEkbMlCx0gSyxqBXBsP@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

   * http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Talk_video_recording

To cut a long story short, there are plans to record videos of the
conference, and in order for this to work, we need volunteers for
morning and afternoon sessions. What you'll need to do is:

In a morning session:
    * Borrow the cameras we'll provide you.
    * Go to 3 talks which are all in one room, and not the Adrian
Boult room, and record them. (ie sit near the front, point camera
right way & hit record)
    * At lunch time return the cameras *straight away*. (This is to
allow them to be recharged - they can't run off mains)

In afternoon session:
   * Pick up the camera after lunch.
    * Go to 3 talks which are all in one room, and not the Adrian
Boult room, and record them. (ie sit near the front, point camera
right way & hit record)
    * In the afternoon break return the cameras *straight away*. (This
is to allow them to be emptied)

The little oddity is that you'll be provided with 3 cameras (and a
tripod) and asked to use them to record 1 talk per camera. The oddity
is caused by the fact that the batteries last slightly more than a
talk's slot, and that the batteries in the camera can't be charged at
the same time as the camera is in use, and the cameras the europython
team have can't be mains powered.

If you're willing to help out, please bear in mind you'll be expected
to record 3 talks, and it would *really* help if you could sign up for
a whole day. (ie record 3 talks before lunch and 3 talks after lunch)

I currently have 1 volunteer to cover 1 day (though not specified
which yet), please add yourself: (and/or mail me)
http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Talk_video_recording

(Richard: I've put you down for monday - I hope that's OK)

In case you're wondering why my name isn't on that grid, the reason is
because I'll have another camera with me which *can* be mains powered,
and I'll be recording every session I attend - which should be 4 in
the morning and 5 in the afternoon - so probably 31 talks in all
(including keynotes), in addition to the 21 to be recorded by other
volunteers. Additionally, I'll be recording all the lightning talks.

I'll be arriving on Saturday afternoon/evening, and at the
Conservatoire on sunday, with the intent of talking through what's
happening with vounteers, and if anyone is interested in having their
tutorial recorded on sunday, please let me know - it'd be useful to
have a test run.

Finally, if you're thinking "I've never used a video camera I can't do
this" - I'd never used a video camera before Europython last year, and
including all the lightling talks, I ended up recording pretty much
every single session I attended, and the videos are here:
http://europython09.blip.tv/ . You can make a difference.

(Incidentally, if anyone else is attending with their own video camera
etc, please do come forward, any extra videos beyond the planned would
be useful to include)

Regards,


Michael.

From mal at egenix.com  Wed Jul 14 14:08:53 2010
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:08:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2010: Areal photo of the location
Message-ID: <4C3DA8D5.8040803@egenix.com>

FYI: Bing has nice areal shots of the location, which may help people
who have trouble finding the venue:

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=srczt4gv75td&scene=7446994&lvl=1&sty=o&sp=Point.srcypqgv73pm_EuroPython%202010____

and

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=srcxdwgv728k&scene=54870596&lvl=1&sty=o&sp=Point.srcxcjgv726r_EuroPython%202010____

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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Wed Jul 14 14:15:39 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:15:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2010: Areal photo of the location
In-Reply-To: <4C3DA8D5.8040803@egenix.com>
References: <4C3DA8D5.8040803@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinsthiAFGrlEbKG3SZQHxR5XPg_vNhU_BU-ctVf@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 July 2010 13:08, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at egenix.com> wrote:
> FYI: Bing has nice areal shots of the location, which may help people
> who have trouble finding the venue:
>
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=srczt4gv75td&scene=7446994&lvl=1&sty=o&sp=Point.srcypqgv73pm_EuroPython%202010____
>
> and
>
> http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=srcxdwgv728k&scene=54870596&lvl=1&sty=o&sp=Point.srcxcjgv726r_EuroPython%202010____

Thank you, Those are invaluable. I must remember to tweet them on the
first morning.

-- 
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http://moreati.org.uk/blog

From bigfishinnet at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 14:58:52 2010
From: bigfishinnet at gmail.com (Stephen Welch)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:58:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4KAWAqGHMgeZmftK3UHeJAL-2fx5pJ_YPOv5V@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik8zue23CgmRQ7f-yiiqxA1TLJuR51GBW_ZWD9M@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin4KAWAqGHMgeZmftK3UHeJAL-2fx5pJ_YPOv5V@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilmDAeT9hvxgNOrClfljzstya_H4h2xPVrm0TVK@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 July 2010 13:27, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
> Thanks -- but you forgot to reply-all. :-)

Ahh yes.....

> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:23, Stephen Welch <bigfishinnet at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guido,
>>
>> On 13 July 2010 09:01, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
>>> Is there anyone who can give me hint on how to travel from London
>>> Heathrow (terminal 5) to Birmingham? I'll be arriving there Saturday
>>> around noon.
>>
>> I am not sure on what tubes you may choose to travel on but this may
>> be helpful (for all arriving for EP) :-)
>>
>> http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/livetravelnews/realtime/track.aspx?offset=weekend
>>
>> Stephen
>>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>

From sparks.m at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 15:08:01 2010
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:08:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikXDeXuoOs_P99qEDfe2SEQNFXnRSJm3Hpk9F-s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinEJCauMmczmNG7s6uvgjwh4EtMtxva99k5I7Nj@mail.gmail.com>
	<19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>
	<AANLkTikXDeXuoOs_P99qEDfe2SEQNFXnRSJm3Hpk9F-s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgk_hgNv0pVbyOdRfPeRdDif9ZesbaolTzNiN1@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<luke.leighton at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Terry Jones <terry at jon.es> wrote:
>>> your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national express
>>> coach
>>
>> I highly recommend taking a coach too. It's so much easier.
>
> ?anyone else going up on saturday? ?what time?

I'm going down to birmingham on saturday, but from Manchester not
London. Also will be going by train not coach because coaches make me
travel sick :-)


Michael.

From mfoord at python.org  Wed Jul 14 15:11:59 2010
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:11:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham
	this	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikgk_hgNv0pVbyOdRfPeRdDif9ZesbaolTzNiN1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinEJCauMmczmNG7s6uvgjwh4EtMtxva99k5I7Nj@mail.gmail.com>	<19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>	<AANLkTikXDeXuoOs_P99qEDfe2SEQNFXnRSJm3Hpk9F-s@mail.gmail.com>
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On 14/07/2010 14:08, Michael Sparks wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> <luke.leighton at gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Terry Jones<terry at jon.es>  wrote:
>>      
>>>> your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national express
>>>> coach
>>>>          
>>> I highly recommend taking a coach too. It's so much easier.
>>>        
>>   anyone else going up on saturday?  what time?
>>      
> I'm going down to birmingham on saturday, but from Manchester not
> London. Also will be going by train not coach because coaches make me
> travel sick :-)
>
>    

I'm going on Saturday, probably also by train because they're much more 
comfortable than coaches - and more flexible on the time. I'm leaving 
from Northampton though, not London. I'll arrive sometime early Saturday 
evening.

Michael

> Michael.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>    


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From memooney at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 18:26:01 2010
From: memooney at gmail.com (Mary Mooney)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:26:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2010 - Non Python Programme
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhLys-otrIgslcz_7dsDVghOiU1vKsRqpuyWzd@mail.gmail.com>

Less than a week to go for the Europython Conference in Birmingham.

Can I ask you, on behalf of the Partner Programme team, to pass this email
and its attachment to anyone who may be visiting Birmingham with you?

We are hoping that providing a partner programme will add value to the whole
Birmingham experience.

We have suggested activities for each day, but these can always be changed
by a majority vote.

Looking forward to seeing you all next week.


------
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 20:09:14 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:09:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn information
In-Reply-To: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
References: <4C3AF931.7080206@justfiona.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1CieLqyY9sVfJqinaDnWTwX6W4v-EiGqZREoj@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 12 July 2010 12:14, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> myself and my boyfriend booked the Premier Inn through EuroPy website when
> we registered our tickets. We got our registraton e-mail which, we assume,
> is our EuroPython ticket too.
> But we didn't get any information about the hotel. Infact I had to do some
> digging on the EuroPython website to even find the address of the place.

I thought that it was clear enough, both on the registration page, and
the accommodation page

> Will we get an e-mail confirming the hotel booking?

Not specifically
you have had a mail confirming your registration and hotel bookings.
We have  a block booking with each hotel, and they do not receive the
rooming list from us until later (because of all the changes that
delegates make at the last minute :-(

 When we get there is the
> room in our name

yes, in the name of the conference registrant.

 or do we quote EuroPython?

Yes. They will ahve an EP room bookings list, with your conf
registration number. Alos they will ahve entered you into thir system
already, so checking in should be quick.

 To confirm, is it actually the
> one at 20 Bridge St, B1 2JR?

Yes. Premier Inn (Canalside)

Best wishes,

John
--

From holger at merlinux.eu  Wed Jul 14 20:49:04 2010
From: holger at merlinux.eu (holger krekel)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:49:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial registration stats?
Message-ID: <20100714184904.GS14601@trillke.net>

Hi all, 

how many people alltogether registered for the first tutorial day? 

And do i see it correctly that yesterday for the first time 
tutorial attendees got asked (through the blog post) 
to allocate themselves? 

best & thanks,

holger

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Wed Jul 14 21:20:04 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:20:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial registration stats?
In-Reply-To: <20100714184904.GS14601@trillke.net>
References: <20100714184904.GS14601@trillke.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilAxQFxUl5lklj_00R-q96WcTQcv38XjnzTBrAb@mail.gmail.com>

Holger

I think that the figure is around 45 people signed up for the tutorial days.

Yes, we only asked people to allocate themselves yesterday and we will be
repeating the request in the next day or so.

I would expect that only about half of the attendees will get around to
allocating themselves before Saturday. This might be
an optimistic prediction.

Richard


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:49 PM, holger krekel <holger at merlinux.eu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> how many people alltogether registered for the first tutorial day?
>
> And do i see it correctly that yesterday for the first time
> tutorial attendees got asked (through the blog post)
> to allocate themselves?
>
> best & thanks,
>
> holger
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
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From jfine at pytex.org  Wed Jul 14 22:27:54 2010
From: jfine at pytex.org (Jonathan Fine)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:27:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript events at EuroPython
Message-ID: <4C3E1DCA.2040302@pytex.org>

Hi

Like quite a few others at this conference, I'm interested in
JavaScript.  And so I've created in the wiki a page listing all events 
that seem to be significantly related to JavaScript.

    http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript

This page lists 14 events.  If you're interested in JavaScript, please 
take a look.


Jonathan

From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 22:33:14 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:33:14 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript events at EuroPython
In-Reply-To: <4C3E1DCA.2040302@pytex.org>
References: <4C3E1DCA.2040302@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJAz9NRc4xsYGW1YW6ITsMBy7DS_XDj8guZbVq@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jonathan Fine <jfine at pytex.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Like quite a few others at this conference, I'm interested in
> JavaScript. ?And so I've created in the wiki a page listing all events that
> seem to be significantly related to JavaScript.
>
> ? http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript
>
> This page lists 14 events. ?If you're interested in JavaScript, please take
> a look.

 ah.  is michael foord on this mailing list at all?  michael, could
you kindly point me in the direction of some demo code where it is
possible to access DOM objects inside a web browser from Silverlight?
i'd realllly appreciate it as i will be able to begin a fifth runtime
for pyjamas (compiling using IronPython) once i know where to begin.

 l.

From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jul 14 23:50:03 2010
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:50:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Train from London Heathrow to Birmingham this
	Saturday
In-Reply-To: <19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>
References: <AANLkTil8ziF9LIr411KL7PM1pf3JOp7HgiNGyTIh9Yf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinEJCauMmczmNG7s6uvgjwh4EtMtxva99k5I7Nj@mail.gmail.com>
	<19516.30909.755253.467403@jon.es>
Message-ID: <AANLkTileqa5vl6AMw_cEjKTRBTmG2Ys4sd5T1LBML9jl@mail.gmail.com>

On 13 July 2010 15:31, Terry Jones <terry at jon.es> wrote:
>> your quickest and cheapest option looks like it is the national express
>> coach
>
> I highly recommend taking a coach too. It's so much easier.

+1 on the national express coach, I take it all the time. However, I
do have the ability to sleep the whole journey, and/or read/use
computer the whole way without getting travel sick. One tip is to
stack up on water and cold food at the airport (hot food is not
allowed on the bus). You book the bus online and print yourself the
ticket:

http://www.nationalexpress.com/coach/airport/Airport-Foreign-Landing-Page-Coach-English.aspx

If you miss the coach you are booked on, you can normally just get the
next one. (You can sometimes also blag your way onto an earlier one
too if your plan lands early). Might be worth listening to this song
before you start!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3NVPOedkEk

Otherwise the train will work by just turning up, although very
expensive in comparison. Sometimes savings can be made by booking in
advance.

From sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net  Thu Jul 15 00:30:25 2010
From: sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net (Stefan Schwarzer)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:30:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting at Birmingham Airport
Message-ID: <4C3E3A81.4040904@sschwarzer.net>

Hello everyone,

Last year we had a nice small "pre-meeting" at the airport
before we took the train into the city. Maybe we can repeat
that this year? :-)

According to my flight schedule, I'll be arriving on Friday
at 17:40 with flight LH 4904 from Frankfurt/Main.

Stefan

From mfoord at python.org  Thu Jul 15 01:57:54 2010
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:57:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript events at EuroPython
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikJAz9NRc4xsYGW1YW6ITsMBy7DS_XDj8guZbVq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C3E1DCA.2040302@pytex.org>
	<AANLkTikJAz9NRc4xsYGW1YW6ITsMBy7DS_XDj8guZbVq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C3E4F02.6050907@python.org>

On 14/07/2010 21:33, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jonathan Fine<jfine at pytex.org>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi
>>
>> Like quite a few others at this conference, I'm interested in
>> JavaScript.  And so I've created in the wiki a page listing all events that
>> seem to be significantly related to JavaScript.
>>
>>    http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript
>>
>> This page lists 14 events.  If you're interested in JavaScript, please take
>> a look.
>>      
>   ah.  is michael foord on this mailing list at all?  michael, could
> you kindly point me in the direction of some demo code where it is
> possible to access DOM objects inside a web browser from Silverlight?
>    

Hey Luke,

Here's the official documentation on the topic, which uses the "new 
style" IronPython and Silverlight integration:

     http://ironpython.net/browser/docs.html#interacting-with-markup

I'll be covering it briefly in my talk on Silverlight.

I also have some old style examples on my website:

     
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/silverlight/silverlight_api.shtml#accessing-the-browser-dom

Both styles of DOM access still work and you can even mix them in an app.

he online examples on my website no longer work with recent versions of 
Silverlight. :-( If you download them and replace the IronPython 
binaries with a recent release they should still work fine. (i.e. all 
the code works fine its just the old IronPython runtime that is out of 
date.)

All the best,

Michael Foord

> i'd realllly appreciate it as i will be able to begin a fifth runtime
> for pyjamas (compiling using IronPython) once i know where to begin.
>
>   l.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>    


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From jfine at pytex.org  Thu Jul 15 09:29:11 2010
From: jfine at pytex.org (Jonathan Fine)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:29:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript meeting: Wednesday, 9.45am, Library Theatre
Message-ID: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>

Hi

As webapps do more in the client, there's growing interest in JavaScript 
in the Python world.  There are 14 JavaScript related talks at this 
EuroPython (listed at http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript).

I thought it would be nice for all interested in JavaScript to meet in 
person and as a group, so I've set up a meeting as part of the main 
talks schedule.

It's currently scheduled for Wednesday at 9.45am in the Library Theatre. 
   That's right after the keynote.

To help you choose, other talks scheduled at that time are
   Taming Twisted with Generators: Raymond Hettinger
   What I learnt at PyCon: Jason Kirtland
   Organise a Python code dojo!: Nicholas Tollervey

I organised a similar meeting as part of EuroPython 2008 (in Vilnius) 
and it went well.  As I recall there were about 20 of us, mostly divided 
into two groups, (1) those coming into JavaScript from Python, and (2) 
those for whom browser scripting has been for a long time their main 
activity.

The wiki page for the meeting is 
http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/Javascript%204%20Pythonistas

You can learn about my interests there, and I hope you'll add to the 
page your interests.

-- 
Jonathan

From ricardo at getgears.com  Thu Jul 15 10:29:10 2010
From: ricardo at getgears.com (Ricardo Santos)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:29:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript meeting: Wednesday, 9.45am,
	Library 	Theatre
In-Reply-To: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
References: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil5LZWuEB5h_Jiz0H0PbUYbLCqikbBkG3hgvQAp@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jonathan

I am a long time backend developer that only touched JS code for very
little tasks or fixes. This is a world that I intentionally have let
myself out of but now would like to get know and so the first group
you mentioned seems perfect.

Can you just explain to my the concept of the meeting? Everyone will
share experiences or what?

Best regards,

Ricardo Santos

Web: http://ricardo.getgears.com
Email: ricardo at getgears.com
Mobile: (+34) 610037466


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Jonathan Fine <jfine at pytex.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> As webapps do more in the client, there's growing interest in JavaScript in
> the Python world. ?There are 14 JavaScript related talks at this EuroPython
> (listed at http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript).
>
> I thought it would be nice for all interested in JavaScript to meet in
> person and as a group, so I've set up a meeting as part of the main talks
> schedule.
>
> It's currently scheduled for Wednesday at 9.45am in the Library Theatre.
> That's right after the keynote.
>
> To help you choose, other talks scheduled at that time are
> ?Taming Twisted with Generators: Raymond Hettinger
> ?What I learnt at PyCon: Jason Kirtland
> ?Organise a Python code dojo!: Nicholas Tollervey
>
> I organised a similar meeting as part of EuroPython 2008 (in Vilnius) and it
> went well. ?As I recall there were about 20 of us, mostly divided into two
> groups, (1) those coming into JavaScript from Python, and (2) those for whom
> browser scripting has been for a long time their main activity.
>
> The wiki page for the meeting is
> http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/Javascript%204%20Pythonistas
>
> You can learn about my interests there, and I hope you'll add to the page
> your interests.
>
> --
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From ntoll at ntoll.org  Thu Jul 15 12:39:27 2010
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:39:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript meeting: Wednesday, 9.45am,
	Library Theatre
In-Reply-To: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
References: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <D5A0F9AE-69E0-4834-B90A-9F15B70C6EE4@ntoll.org>

Hi Jonathan,

I'd like to attend but I'm giving at talk at the same time. :-( Can we move the meeting..?

Nicholas.

On 15 Jul 2010, at 08:29, Jonathan Fine wrote:

> Hi
> 
> As webapps do more in the client, there's growing interest in JavaScript in the Python world.  There are 14 JavaScript related talks at this EuroPython (listed at http://wiki.europython.eu/JavaScript).
> 
> I thought it would be nice for all interested in JavaScript to meet in person and as a group, so I've set up a meeting as part of the main talks schedule.
> 
> It's currently scheduled for Wednesday at 9.45am in the Library Theatre.   That's right after the keynote.
> 
> To help you choose, other talks scheduled at that time are
>  Taming Twisted with Generators: Raymond Hettinger
>  What I learnt at PyCon: Jason Kirtland
>  Organise a Python code dojo!: Nicholas Tollervey
> 
> I organised a similar meeting as part of EuroPython 2008 (in Vilnius) and it went well.  As I recall there were about 20 of us, mostly divided into two groups, (1) those coming into JavaScript from Python, and (2) those for whom browser scripting has been for a long time their main activity.
> 
> The wiki page for the meeting is http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/Javascript%204%20Pythonistas
> 
> You can learn about my interests there, and I hope you'll add to the page your interests.
> 
> -- 
> Jonathan
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From tristram at oaten.name  Thu Jul 15 12:52:26 2010
From: tristram at oaten.name (Tristram Oaten)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 11:52:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Refunds?
Message-ID: <AANLkTilR-biMzzJ-hmUToztUeiXpRWz6HlEcb3vY8iSN@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've just been told by my work that I can't take the time off for
Europython :-( I blame Microsoft.
(Seriously, MS have given my company some ridiculous deadlines that
has precipitated in me working next week!)

What is the refund procedure?
Tris

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 13:48:57 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:48:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Refunds?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilR-biMzzJ-hmUToztUeiXpRWz6HlEcb3vY8iSN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilR-biMzzJ-hmUToztUeiXpRWz6HlEcb3vY8iSN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikI7H0ewzHKuW5MPSa4bz_RBy16-Dbp7hw9MARE@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tris,


On 15 July 2010 11:52, Tristram Oaten <tristram at oaten.name> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just been told by my work that I can't take the time off for
> Europython :-( I blame Microsoft.
> (Seriously, MS have given my company some ridiculous deadlines that
> has precipitated in me working next week!)

I'm sorry to hear that you cannot come.
>
> What is the refund procedure?

The official refund policy is in the Terms and Conditions:

http://www.europython.eu/registration/terms.html

You initiate a refund by asking the contact given with your registration:

vanessa at clocksoft.com

or me, or via the europython-contact at python.org list.

If you registered within the last three months, then we can refund
your card if you paid with one, otherwise we have to raise a cheque
and there are charges  involved.

If your registration included hotel bookings (which your's did not,
Tris), then these cannot be refunded as the hotel bookings were all
finalised this morning, and it would be up to you to try to sell your
room to another conference delegate.

Best wishes,

John
--

From gjb at camvine.com  Thu Jul 15 13:18:22 2010
From: gjb at camvine.com (Garry Bodsworth)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:18:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Official Drinking Hole?
Message-ID: <018EE925-FD94-4D4F-B36F-5758F9760BF2@camvine.com>

On the Sunday night is there an official place people are meeting up?  Last year there was a downstairs room in I think it was Walkabout (or a pub like that on Broad Street).

Cheers,
Garry

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 14:28:07 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:28:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Official Drinking Hole?
In-Reply-To: <018EE925-FD94-4D4F-B36F-5758F9760BF2@camvine.com>
References: <018EE925-FD94-4D4F-B36F-5758F9760BF2@camvine.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJSQiwxs9rkb4ounClIbAggd23Mqnr_SgANYaB@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Garry,

On 15 July 2010 12:18, Garry Bodsworth <gjb at camvine.com> wrote:
> On the Sunday night is there an official place people are meeting up? ?Last year there was a downstairs room in I think it was Walkabout (or a pub like that on Broad Street).

So far no one has arranged a suitable venue, but I'm sure they will do
by Sunday, and post it to the list and website.

Best wishes,

John
--

From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 15:00:58 2010
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:00:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Official Drinking Hole?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJSQiwxs9rkb4ounClIbAggd23Mqnr_SgANYaB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <018EE925-FD94-4D4F-B36F-5758F9760BF2@camvine.com>
	<AANLkTimJSQiwxs9rkb4ounClIbAggd23Mqnr_SgANYaB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim67qoYnmWbATq6LTXFps4uNkH7BOQ7hJLsA-EI@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

The Wellington pub was quite nice...

http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/


A.

------------------------------------------------------
Ales Zoulek
+420 604 332 515
Jabber: ales.zoulek at gmail.com
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Garry,
>
> On 15 July 2010 12:18, Garry Bodsworth <gjb at camvine.com> wrote:
>> On the Sunday night is there an official place people are meeting up? ?Last year there was a downstairs room in I think it was Walkabout (or a pub like that on Broad Street).
>
> So far no one has arranged a suitable venue, but I'm sure they will do
> by Sunday, and post it to the list and website.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> John
> --
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de  Thu Jul 15 15:13:55 2010
From: m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de (Kaufmann, Martin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:13:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Job Market?
Message-ID: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>

Hi,

I am looking for a PhD student with a strong python backbround. Is there an opportunity to announce this position at Europython?

Thanks and best wishes,

MArtin

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From randle.taylor at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 15:25:26 2010
From: randle.taylor at gmail.com (Randle Taylor)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:25:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Job Market?
In-Reply-To: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>
References: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimo-9VsxrlM5vNE-0FAZc1T2cCLaqe7OJNADuNs@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Martin,

It looks like the Recruitment session might be what you're after:
http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk41

Cheers,
Randy

2010/7/15 Kaufmann, Martin <m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de>

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a PhD student with a strong python backbround. Is there an
> opportunity to announce this position at Europython?
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> MArtin
>
>
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 15:28:37 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:28:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Job Market?
In-Reply-To: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>
References: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktxDUeJjY-CfCjp_ruGMQks0o1r_a0u7-TtufC@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Martin,

2010/7/15 Kaufmann, Martin <m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de>:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a PhD student with a strong python backbround. Is there an opportunity to announce this position at Europython?

http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk41

Best wishes,

John
--

From m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de  Thu Jul 15 16:34:16 2010
From: m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de (Kaufmann, Martin)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:34:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Job Market?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktxDUeJjY-CfCjp_ruGMQks0o1r_a0u7-TtufC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD87@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>,
	<AANLkTiktxDUeJjY-CfCjp_ruGMQks0o1r_a0u7-TtufC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3041693163264E4994EEE206F3DAE9693BF5E0AD89@MBX-CLUSTER01.ad.fz-juelich.de>

Thanks a lot. I somehow missed that.

Is it allowed for non-sponsors to announce an open  position in a short presentation (1-2 min)?
We are a non-commercial research institute.

/Martin


________________________________________
Von: John Pinner [funthyme at gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 2010 15:28
An: Kaufmann, Martin
Cc: europython at python.org
Betreff: Re: [EuroPython] Job Market?

Hi Martin,

2010/7/15 Kaufmann, Martin <m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de>:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for a PhD student with a strong python backbround. Is there an opportunity to announce this position at Europython?

http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk41

Best wishes,

John
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Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt,
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From jfine at pytex.org  Thu Jul 15 22:44:43 2010
From: jfine at pytex.org (Jonathan Fine)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:44:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Wanted: Assistant for JavaScript tutorial
Message-ID: <4C3F733B.3050209@pytex.org>

Hi

There's about 20 people registered for the JavaScript tutorial, and 
there may be more to come.  It could get quite busy, and would go better 
if I had some help.
     http://wiki.europython.eu/Talks/Javascript%20For%20Pythonistas

If there's someone willing to do it, I'd quite like an assistant for the 
day.  They'll be payment offered.  Mostly it will consist of walking 
around answering questions and offering help.

If you know most of the JavaScript in the handout and are available 1.45 
to 5.30pm then send me an email by 9am Saturday.  Final arrangements 
will be made just before the tutorial.

Here are the URLs.

HTML online:
    http://jfine.bitbucket.org/docs/js4py/

HTML and PDF zipped
http://bitbucket.org/jfine/javascript-for-python-programmers/downloads/js4py-doc-0.1c.zip


-- 
Jonathan

From richard at the-moon.net  Fri Jul 16 02:25:18 2010
From: richard at the-moon.net (Richard Wall)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:25:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript meeting: Wednesday, 9.45am,
	Library 	Theatre
In-Reply-To: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
References: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinAxOpah4MaoO8FU1U74FAG7xzmHOI-H4P-u9ab@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Jonathan Fine <jfine at pytex.org> wrote:
<snip>
> I thought it would be nice for all interested in JavaScript to meet in
> person and as a group, so I've set up a meeting as part of the main talks
> schedule.
> It's currently scheduled for Wednesday at 9.45am in the Library Theatre.
> That's right after the keynote.
> To help you choose, other talks scheduled at that time are
> ?Taming Twisted with Generators: Raymond Hettinger

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for highlighting all the Javascript talks, I'm definitely going
to attend some of those, although I also want to see the "Taming
Twisted" talk - so I might not be able to join the Javascript group
meeting.

Is there going to be a Javascript code clinic? I'm currently working
on a pet project called Jarmon (jQuery, RRD, Canvas graphing):
 * https://code.launchpad.net/jarmon
...and It'd be nice to have a chance to discuss the code with some
other Javascript enthusiasts.

Anyway look forward to meeting you all next week.

-RichardW.

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jul 16 08:04:23 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:04:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] JavaScript meeting: Wednesday, 9.45am,
 Library  Theatre
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinAxOpah4MaoO8FU1U74FAG7xzmHOI-H4P-u9ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C3EB8C7.1050103@pytex.org>
	<AANLkTinAxOpah4MaoO8FU1U74FAG7xzmHOI-H4P-u9ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C3FF667.908@thegrindstone.me.uk>

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On 16/07/2010 01:25, Richard Wall wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Jonathan Fine <jfine at pytex.org> wrote:
> <snip>
>> I thought it would be nice for all interested in JavaScript to meet in
>> person and as a group, so I've set up a meeting as part of the main talks
>> schedule.
>> It's currently scheduled for Wednesday at 9.45am in the Library Theatre.
>> That's right after the keynote.
>> To help you choose, other talks scheduled at that time are
>>  Taming Twisted with Generators: Raymond Hettinger
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Thanks for highlighting all the Javascript talks, I'm definitely going
> to attend some of those, although I also want to see the "Taming
> Twisted" talk - so I might not be able to join the Javascript group
> meeting.
> 
> Is there going to be a Javascript code clinic? I'm currently working
> on a pet project called Jarmon (jQuery, RRD, Canvas graphing):
>  * https://code.launchpad.net/jarmon
> ...and It'd be nice to have a chance to discuss the code with some
> other Javascript enthusiasts.
> 
> Anyway look forward to meeting you all next week.
> 

Richard

The BoF point can be used for hold these type of impromptu discussions.

Richard
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 01:08:42 2010
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 02:08:42 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'd like to get to conference, but with round trip air flight from
Belarus the participation
price rises to a little bit more than 1500$ - too much for my budget.
Can you point me
to some railroad route planning sites to evaluate alternative ways?

Speaking about alternatives, does anybody how long it could take to
hitchhike through
the Europe from Poland to UK these days? I hope that hitchhiking in
Europe is not
illegal like in U.S.

Thanks.
--
anatoly t.

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jul 16 08:52:20 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:52:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>

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On 16/07/2010 00:08, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to get to conference, but with round trip air flight from
> Belarus the participation
> price rises to a little bit more than 1500$ - too much for my budget.
> Can you point me
> to some railroad route planning sites to evaluate alternative ways?
> 
> Speaking about alternatives, does anybody how long it could take to
> hitchhike through
> the Europe from Poland to UK these days? I hope that hitchhiking in
> Europe is not
> illegal like in U.S.

You could try:

    http://plannerint.b-rail.be/bin/query.exe/en?L=b-rail

I have not used it myself but it appears to offer what you need.

Hitchhiking is not illegal in the UK, but I don't know about the rest of
Europe.

Richard
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From georg at python.org  Fri Jul 16 09:23:39 2010
From: georg at python.org (Georg Brandl)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:23:39 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting at Birmingham Airport
In-Reply-To: <4C3E3A81.4040904@sschwarzer.net>
References: <4C3E3A81.4040904@sschwarzer.net>
Message-ID: <4C4008FB.8080904@python.org>

Am 15.07.2010 00:30, schrieb Stefan Schwarzer:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Last year we had a nice small "pre-meeting" at the airport
> before we took the train into the city. Maybe we can repeat
> that this year? :-)
> 
> According to my flight schedule, I'll be arriving on Friday
> at 17:40 with flight LH 4904 from Frankfurt/Main.

If you're still there at 21:55, let me know :)

Georg

From flub at devork.be  Fri Jul 16 10:05:08 2010
From: flub at devork.be (Floris Bruynooghe)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:05:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>
Message-ID: <20100716080508.GB18504@laurie.devork.be>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 07:52:20AM +0100, Richard Taylor wrote:
> You could try:
> 
>     http://plannerint.b-rail.be/bin/query.exe/en?L=b-rail
> 
> I have not used it myself but it appears to offer what you need.

The German rail website works much better for inter-europe rail
travel in my experience: http://www.deutschebahn.com/

As always travel by bus might be a lot cheaper: http://eurolines.com

> Hitchhiking is not illegal in the UK, but I don't know about the rest of
> Europe.

AFAIK it's legal, but who knows.

Floris

-- 
Debian GNU/Linux -- The Power of Freedom
www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org

From dougal85 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 11:03:56 2010
From: dougal85 at gmail.com (Dougal Matthews)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:03:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <20100716080508.GB18504@laurie.devork.be>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>
	<20100716080508.GB18504@laurie.devork.be>
Message-ID: <CCC23111-4F03-4CB2-A345-4D53B397A028@gmail.com>


On 16 Jul 2010, at 09:05, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
> 
>> Hitchhiking is not illegal in the UK, but I don't know about the rest of
>> Europe.
> 
> AFAIK it's legal, but who knows.

Pretty sure it is legal with some minor exceptions. What I can find online backs that up (i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchhiking#Legal_status )

I've only very rarely seen hitch hikers in the UK, so how successful it will be is another matter altogether.

Dougal

From terry at jon.es  Fri Jul 16 11:07:16 2010
From: terry at jon.es (Terry Jones)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:07:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: Your message at 10:03:56 on Friday, 16 July 2010
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>
	<20100716080508.GB18504@laurie.devork.be>
	<CCC23111-4F03-4CB2-A345-4D53B397A028@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19520.8516.699032.454551@jon.es>

> I've only very rarely seen hitch hikers in the UK, so how successful it
> will be is another matter altogether.

Just make a sign with "PYTHON" written on it in huge letters. Shouldn't be
a problem.

Terry

From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Fri Jul 16 10:22:10 2010
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:22:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.vfxf68w85mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 16.07.2010, 01:08 Uhr, schrieb anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
> I'd like to get to conference, but with round trip air flight from
> Belarus the participation
> price rises to a little bit more than 1500$ - too much for my budget.
> Can you point me
> to some railroad route planning sites to evaluate alternative ways?

Hi Anatoly,

you can probably plan a train journey using the German rail website - say  
Minsk to Berlin which takes about 19 hours. Birmingham is probably another  
10 hours by train from there (via Cologne and Brussels)

http://www.bahn.de/i/view/GBR/en/index.shtml

But that won't be cheap because of the channel tunnel trains. Might be  
better getting to Poland and getting a coach. It looks like Bialystok -  
London is a single route:

http://www.eurolinespolska.pl/index.php

> Speaking about alternatives, does anybody how long it could take to
> hitchhike through
> the Europe from Poland to UK these days? I hope that hitchhiking in
> Europe is not
> illegal like in U.S.

Hitchhiking is certainly legal but can take quite a while but it's  
certainly something I'd not want to do in the current heat wave, from  
which the UK has just escaped.

Good luck with your travels!

Charlie
-- 
Charlie Clark
Managing Director
Clark Consulting & Research
German Office
Helmholtzstr. 20
D?sseldorf
D- 40215
Tel: +49-211-600-3657
Mobile: +49-178-782-6226

From roger at disruptive.org.uk  Fri Jul 16 11:14:43 2010
From: roger at disruptive.org.uk (Roger Whittaker)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:14:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <19520.8516.699032.454551@jon.es>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C4001A4.6030401@thegrindstone.me.uk>
	<20100716080508.GB18504@laurie.devork.be>
	<CCC23111-4F03-4CB2-A345-4D53B397A028@gmail.com>
	<19520.8516.699032.454551@jon.es>
Message-ID: <20100716091443.GA4913@disruptive.org.uk>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:07:16AM +0200, Terry Jones wrote:
> > I've only very rarely seen hitch hikers in the UK, so how successful it
> > will be is another matter altogether.
> 
> Just make a sign with "PYTHON" written on it in huge letters. Shouldn't be
> a problem.

In the other hand carry a suitable cage covered with a cloth.


-- 
========================
Roger Whittaker
roger at disruptive.org.uk
http://disruptive.org.uk
========================

From ntoll at ntoll.org  Fri Jul 16 11:08:56 2010
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:08:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6F59E1CB-079E-485A-BDBD-7260BE0523E7@ntoll.org>

Hi Anatoly,

Why not try looking at travelling by coach..? They're cheap. 

Another alternative is to get to Poland and fly WAW->BHX a quick look at a price comparison site show there's prices starting from $314 for Saturday -> Saturday return (I used travelocity.com to search)

Best of luck!

Nicholas.

On 16 Jul 2010, at 00:08, anatoly techtonik wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to get to conference, but with round trip air flight from
> Belarus the participation
> price rises to a little bit more than 1500$ - too much for my budget.
> Can you point me
> to some railroad route planning sites to evaluate alternative ways?
> 
> Speaking about alternatives, does anybody how long it could take to
> hitchhike through
> the Europe from Poland to UK these days? I hope that hitchhiking in
> Europe is not
> illegal like in U.S.
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> anatoly t.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From alga at pov.lt  Fri Jul 16 11:04:00 2010
From: alga at pov.lt (Albertas Agejevas)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:04:00 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100716090400.GB8208@fridge.pov.lt>

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 02:08:42AM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> I'd like to get to conference, but with round trip air flight from
> Belarus the participation
> price rises to a little bit more than 1500$ - too much for my budget.

Two months ago Ryanair offered Kaunas-Birmingham return tickets for
around $250.  Unfortunately now that flight is sold out.  You could
have gotten to Kaunas by train quite easily I imagine.

> Speaking about alternatives, does anybody how long it could take to
> hitchhike through the Europe from Poland to UK these days? I hope
> that hitchhiking in Europe is not illegal like in U.S.

If you look clean clean and unintimidating, dress in bright colours,
follow the main routes and don't get stuck in the middle of nowhere,
you can plan the average travel speed of around 50 km/h.  In Germany
you can easily reach 100 km/h.  Speaking of Poland, it makes sense to
spend 6 hours at the border and find a car that will take you to the
other border.  You might have problems at the UK border.

Hope this helps.  Good luck with finding a good train route.

Albertas

From pepperleaf at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 11:50:35 2010
From: pepperleaf at gmail.com (Ryan Lander)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:50:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration
Message-ID: <AANLkTinceukY19EUDHTqBLW8PLBoNnHVz42xk0cfFv-L@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, can I still register for europython through the website and pay the
?215 rate instead of the ?225 on the door rate?

I only just managed to have my holidays green lighted!

Thanks

Ryan
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 11:56:34 2010
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:56:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinceukY19EUDHTqBLW8PLBoNnHVz42xk0cfFv-L@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinceukY19EUDHTqBLW8PLBoNnHVz42xk0cfFv-L@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes of course. If you need a hotel room you need to book directly with
the hotel website or phone line.

On 16 July 2010 10:50, Ryan Lander <pepperleaf at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, can I still register for europython through the website and pay?the
> ?215 rate instead of the ?225 on the door rate?
> I only just managed to have my holidays green lighted!
> Thanks
> Ryan
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jul 16 12:57:03 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:57:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Last call for Session Chairs
Message-ID: <AANLkTin3cDud_si6mzSPWuxyWqGeuTsbBPjS0kvJgKf_@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

EuroPython tutorials start tomorrow and the main programme starts on Monday
but we are still short of session chairs to cover all of the talk sessions.

Being a session chair is easy and if you are going to the talk anyway it
does not require any additional commitment.

Please consider signing up to cover one of the remain sessions:

       http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Session_Chairs

If you don't want to fight with the wiki to add your name, just email me
which of the remaining sessions that you can cover and I will deal with
adding you to the wiki table.

Many thanks

Richard
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From chef at ghum.de  Fri Jul 16 13:16:43 2010
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:16:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Last call for Session Chairs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin3cDud_si6mzSPWuxyWqGeuTsbBPjS0kvJgKf_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin3cDud_si6mzSPWuxyWqGeuTsbBPjS0kvJgKf_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikOS3ITH3TJSd_62g39PyBo0_GsVrkt_hw7mnb6@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,

I can do:
Tuesday, Library Theather, Slot C:

Python and Windows: equality?
Tim Golden

Python in the Browser
Michael Foord


Best wishes,

HArald




On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:57, Richard Taylor
<rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi
>
> EuroPython tutorials start tomorrow and the main programme starts on Monday
> but we are still short of session chairs to cover all of the talk sessions.
>
> Being a session chair is easy and if you are going to the talk anyway it
> does not require any additional commitment.
>
> Please consider signing up to cover one of the remain sessions:
>
> ?????? http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Session_Chairs
>
> If you don't want to fight with the wiki to add your name, just email me
> which of the remaining sessions that you can cover and I will deal with
> adding you to the wiki table.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>



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From thisgirl at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 16:57:27 2010
From: thisgirl at gmail.com (jenn)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:57:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Question re: Conference Dinner
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJdUX55E7D5c9raBDd9di7QhIazFEeeFLksaC9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys

Bit of a random question, but when is the dinner on the 21 July
expected to finish? Am one of the delegate's gf and was hoping to head
down and surprise him that evening :)

Ta

Jennifer

From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jul 16 17:14:22 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:14:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Question re: Conference Dinner
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJdUX55E7D5c9raBDd9di7QhIazFEeeFLksaC9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJdUX55E7D5c9raBDd9di7QhIazFEeeFLksaC9@mail.gmail.com>
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> Hi guys
> 
> Bit of a random question, but when is the dinner on the 21 July
> expected to finish? Am one of the delegate's gf and was hoping to head
> down and surprise him that evening :)
> 

Probably about 10:30 but the bar will still be open so people will
probably be in the bar until _much_ later.

Richard

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From techtonik at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 18:11:28 2010
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:11:28 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <20100716090400.GB8208@fridge.pov.lt>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100716090400.GB8208@fridge.pov.lt>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWlIVMZnvQHNgSBwmsLei_KOQH2gJD3oSelWwL@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for replies. I was able to plan the route using the link by Richard
http://plannerint.b-rail.be/bin/query.exe/en?L=b-rail
But there are no prices, unfortunately, and I've been told that the
trip will be expensive anyway.

Going by train will take 31 hours one way or about 3 days for a round trip.
Total distance is 2400km, so even by car it will take 2 days one way
with one driver.
So travelling by bus or hitchhiking is not an option - I just won't
get there in time.

Given all the above, I might have better chances visiting the next
PyCon - last time tickets to California and back were about 1300$, so
it should be even less expensive for Atlanta, GA. Seems like with due
preparation in advance I could be able to find cheap flights. I'll be
aware of the fact next time. Thanks for the help.

Have a good time at this EuroPython. ;)
--
anatoly t.

From mal at egenix.com  Fri Jul 16 22:20:08 2010
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:20:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting there not by air
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWlIVMZnvQHNgSBwmsLei_KOQH2gJD3oSelWwL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTqRZBzAV1cxOkfnmZQJ4Vqo-EMlPSjvIzwf1X@mail.gmail.com>	<20100716090400.GB8208@fridge.pov.lt>
	<AANLkTinWlIVMZnvQHNgSBwmsLei_KOQH2gJD3oSelWwL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C40BEF8.3010109@egenix.com>

anatoly techtonik wrote:
> Thanks for replies. I was able to plan the route using the link by Richard
> http://plannerint.b-rail.be/bin/query.exe/en?L=b-rail
> But there are no prices, unfortunately, and I've been told that the
> trip will be expensive anyway.
> 
> Going by train will take 31 hours one way or about 3 days for a round trip.
> Total distance is 2400km, so even by car it will take 2 days one way
> with one driver.
> So travelling by bus or hitchhiking is not an option - I just won't
> get there in time.
> 
> Given all the above, I might have better chances visiting the next
> PyCon - last time tickets to California and back were about 1300$, so
> it should be even less expensive for Atlanta, GA. Seems like with due
> preparation in advance I could be able to find cheap flights. I'll be
> aware of the fact next time. Thanks for the help.

The best options for flights are via Frankfurt or Warsaw if you're
traveling from Minsk. Trains take ages and are not all that much
cheaper. Buses are the cheapest option, but also risky.

BTW: Getting visas will be the bigger problem and take a lot longer
than finding cheap flights. If you plan to attend EPC next year,
you're lucky, since the Schengen VISA for Italy will suffice.
For the UK, you'd have to get an extra UK visa, in addition to
a Schengen one to cover the stop-over in Frankfurt or Warsaw,
AFAIK.

-- 
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From horst at zerokspot.com  Sat Jul 17 14:46:23 2010
From: horst at zerokspot.com (Horst Gutmann)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:46:23 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting at Birmingham Airport
In-Reply-To: <4C4008FB.8080904@python.org>
References: <4C3E3A81.4040904@sschwarzer.net>
	<4C4008FB.8080904@python.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfCG1OsHKn6SsLmkQfV4lgziXsPNhCme2xAQ5D@mail.gmail.com>

I'll probably pick someone up at around 1720 so perhaps I'll also be around :-)

 -- Horst

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Georg Brandl <georg at python.org> wrote:
> Am 15.07.2010 00:30, schrieb Stefan Schwarzer:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Last year we had a nice small "pre-meeting" at the airport
>> before we took the train into the city. Maybe we can repeat
>> that this year? :-)
>>
>> According to my flight schedule, I'll be arriving on Friday
>> at 17:40 with flight LH 4904 from Frankfurt/Main.
>
> If you're still there at 21:55, let me know :)
>
> Georg
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From sparks.m at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 01:57:15 2010
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:57:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython's Videoing Team Needs You
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmIHJNhj9j6_mAGcoz22QCgZAyNdO1Yn_fCrA3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

As noted in previous emails, I'll be videoing all the talks I attend
(like last year[1]). 4 parallel tracks means this is 1/4 of the
conference (I can only be in one place/track at once! :).

[1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2009-July/007488.html

With volunteers we can raise this number to nearly 2 tracks. Without
volunteers - you gentle reader - we cannot.

I'm only looking for one volunteer each morning, and one volunteer
each afternoon. (It's easier if it's the same volunteer in the morning
and afternoon.) You won't be recording after the break in the
afternoon. You don't need to have used a video camera before - I
hadn't before last year.

All in all, you are signing up to record a minimum of 3 talks, and
preferably 6. Possibly more if you like :-)

The current volunteers for slots looks like this:

   * Monday AM : --
   * Monday PM : --
   * Tuesday AM : Richard Barran (Room: Library Theatre, then after
break: Recital Hall)
   * Tuesday PM : RichardBarran (Room: Recital Hall, then after break:
Library Theatre)
   * Wednesday AM: --
   * Wednesday PM: WalterPy (Room: Library Theatre)
   * Thursday AM: WalterPy (Room: New Lecture Theatre)

(WalterPy you'll note that I've removed your kind offer of recording
alongside Richard Barran in Tuesday AM and PM, but there isn't
sufficient resources for that as far as I know at this instant - I'll
know more in the morning)
(RichardBarran - there aren't sufficient resources to do before and
after the break in the afternoon)

For reference, this is /my/ planned recording schedule:

    Sunday AM : Which ever tutorial would like me to record it
    Sunday PM : Which ever tutorial would like me to record it
    Monday AM, prebreak -- Adrian Boult /Library Theatre
    Monday AM, postbreak -- Library Theatre
    Monday PM, prebreak -- Library Theatre
    Monday PM, postbreak -- Adrian Boult
    Tuesday AM, prebreak -- Adrian Boult
    Tuesday AM, postbreak -- Library Theatre
    Tuesday PM, prebreak -- Adrian Boult
    Tuesday PM, postbreak -- Adrian Boult
    Wednesday AM, prebreak -- Adrian Boult / New Lecture Theatre
    Wednesday AM, postbreak -- Recital Hall
    Wednesday PM, prebreak -- Lecture Room 1
    Wednesday PM, postbreak -- Recital Hall
    Thursday AM, prebreak -- Adrian Boult / Library Theatre
    Thursday AM, postbreak -- (Recital Hall)
    Thursday PM - Adrian Boult (lightning talks & close)

... ie I'm not asking you to do anything I wouldn't do myself!

As noted above, I'm only looking for 1-3 volunteers now to cover these slots:
   * Monday AM : --
   * Monday PM : --
   * Wednesday AM: --

What am I asking you to do?

Volunteer!
Collect some cameras. Go to interesting talks & record them. (1 talk per camera)
Return cameras at the start of lunch or start of afternoon break.

Go on... You know you want to!

(If push comes to shove, I think I have a way of being in two places
at once, but I'd rather not try... :-)

Regards,


Michael.

From russel at russel.org.uk  Sun Jul 18 09:00:46 2010
From: russel at russel.org.uk (Russel Winder)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:00:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] The SCons Tutorial yesterday
Message-ID: <1279436446.3949.53.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>

Please can I ask everyone who attended the SCons tutorial yesterday to
contact me.   There is a problem associated with people copying certain
directories from the USB flash drives.  It isn't anything like a virus,
the problem is that I hadn't properly checked what was on the drives and
there is a potentially serious copyright violation.  Basically I need
people to delete some stuff that they copied in good faith.

If we can get this sorted before people copy thing further then it will
ease my mind.

Thanks.

-- 
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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 11:55:21 2010
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:55:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Video helpers !
Message-ID: <AANLkTinOejANlEp9Gf6YJm7eTdWWhBisBWSAcCYpxMEo@mail.gmail.com>

Hi helpers & potential helpers,


I'm at the conference now, and would like to catch up people helping
out or interested in helping out today - if you're here.

I'll generally be near the coffee in breaks & lunchtime. If I'm not,
my twitter status will be updated to say where I am. In particular
I'll be near the coffee area at these times:
   * 10:45 - 11:00 (probably longer in fact - I'm not recording the
morning - been looking at what's available kit wise :-)
   * 12:30 - 13:00 (maybe longer)
   * 15:30 - 15:45

I'll also be around the bag stuffing after 17:15

Also, I look like this:
    * http://thwackety.com/MichaelSparks.jpg

Cheers,

Michael.

From bruno at renie.fr  Sun Jul 18 17:09:58 2010
From: bruno at renie.fr (=?UTF-8?B?QnJ1bm8gUmVuacOp?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:09:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Twitter stream for EuroPython
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLbaAFN4Cw0a3a6w-x3RnNa31g5Jl2nRiegZeL@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

Just to let you know, I've put a real-time feed of EuroPython-related
tweets here:

http://europython.bruno.im/

It's using Twitter's streaming API and WebSocket for real-time
notification, so you should be able to see the updates *before* they
appear on search.twitter.com. The "downside" is that you need a
browser supporting WebSockets: either Chrome/Chromium or Safari. I
tried with the latest version of Firefox 4 and WebSockets are not
working yet.

If your browser doesn't support WebSockets, please use the refresh
button. If the server load goes too high I'll add more shares in
exchange of a few beers :)

Also if at some point the feed isn't updated anymore, feel free to
ping me on Twitter (@brutasse) and I'll see what I can do.

See you all tomorrow!

-Bruno

From m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de  Sun Jul 18 23:14:11 2010
From: m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de (Martin Kaufmann)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:14:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] mobile phone prepaid card
Message-ID: <4C436EA3.7010700@fz-juelich.de>

Hi,

Can anybody recommend a prepaid card for mobile phones in GB and where
to buy it in Birmingham centre?

Are there prepaid cards with UMTS/GPRS flatrates on a daily bases?

Thanks and best wishes,
Martin


















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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 19 00:08:05 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:08:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] mobile phone prepaid card
In-Reply-To: <4C436EA3.7010700@fz-juelich.de>
References: <4C436EA3.7010700@fz-juelich.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAwtgVhRBblGsFv2naWpb7fu5xtom2C0j2QZAQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 18 July 2010 22:14, Martin Kaufmann <m.kaufmann at fz-juelich.de> wrote:
> Can anybody recommend a prepaid card for mobile phones in GB and where
> to buy it in Birmingham centre?
>
> Are there prepaid cards with UMTS/GPRS flatrates on a daily bases?

The call charge is not great at 20p / minute, each ?5 top up on a
Three PAYG SIM comes with 150 MB of data allowance. The Three store is
at

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=three+store&sll=52.478755,-1.894155&sspn=0.001617,0.004823&ie=UTF8&radius=0.12&split=1&rq=1&ev=zi&hq=three+store&hnear=&ll=52.478755,-1.894155&spn=0.001617,0.004823&z=18&iwloc=A

or if you see me tomorrow I have a spare, I'll be wearing a red crew
shirt. Otherwise I think Orange charge 50p/day for 'unlimited'
browsing. You can buy the vouchers at any news agent. We have wireless
coverage throughout the conference.

Alex Willmer
-- 
Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
http://moreati.org.uk/blog

From memooney at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 07:24:38 2010
From: memooney at gmail.com (Mary Mooney)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 06:24:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Partner Programme Update
Message-ID: <AANLkTilqvNFFQgTmeVDAYC-vo50taj00DO3oeYy8JUkA@mail.gmail.com>

I cannot remember who is updating the wiki - but can this updated version of
the Partner Programme be added today please?


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From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 00:54:25 2010
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:54:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday night beer
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwqEroYWZH5oxDmeZ5ldpmINLzPvoVKoZDCuTo@mail.gmail.com>

So we're at Walkabout for some food&beers. Anyone want to join us? Or is
there any other "meeting" pub?

Ales
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From info at pixelbar.be  Mon Jul 19 10:15:54 2010
From: info at pixelbar.be (Manuel Weidmann (Pixelbar GmbH))
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:15:54 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] WiFi Key
Message-ID: <666893565-1279527307-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-930650139-@bda238.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>

Hi! 

Could someone tell me what the security key for the WiFi at venue is?

Thx ;-)

Manuel

From guido at google.com  Mon Jul 19 13:06:38 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:06:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] BDFL Keynote Thursday
Message-ID: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>

As some of the organizers know, my EuroPython keynote (Thursday at 9am
in the main session room, Adrian Boult Hall) will take the form of a
Q&A session with questions asked online. I did this at the last PyCon
using Twitter, which was less than ideal. This time I plan to do it
using Google Moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator/) which lets
people pose questions ahead of time and vote on them.

My idea is to set up a Moderator page for this Q&A and open it up for
questions sometime Wednesday (my experience is that opening up
Moderator too early has a bad effect on the ranking of the questions).

My only reason to post here is to make sure that none of the
EuroPython organizers have already set up such a Moderator page;
assuming they haven't I will set it up myself tomorrow, and announce
it here and on Twitter (someone else will have to update the
EuroPython wiki and hopefully the program).

PS. This email thread is purely to coordinate the Moderator page.
Questions posted via email will be IGNORED (with points off for
ignoring my request). Please wait for the Moderator page.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 19 14:24:42 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:24:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BDFL Keynote Thursday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPMlYCAgDOG_6cP_mK1z5r-RMCPOfnlG8st4Rw@mail.gmail.com>

That sounds great. If you wish to announce it on Twitter then if you begin
your tweet with @europython it will be retweeted.

On 19 Jul 2010 12:06, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:

As some of the organizers know, my EuroPython keynote (Thursday at 9am
in the main session room, Adrian Boult Hall) will take the form of a
Q&A session with questions asked online. I did this at the last PyCon
using Twitter, which was less than ideal. This time I plan to do it
using Google Moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator/) which lets
people pose questions ahead of time and vote on them.

My idea is to set up a Moderator page for this Q&A and open it up for
questions sometime Wednesday (my experience is that opening up
Moderator too early has a bad effect on the ranking of the questions).

My only reason to post here is to make sure that none of the
EuroPython organizers have already set up such a Moderator page;
assuming they haven't I will set it up myself tomorrow, and announce
it here and on Twitter (someone else will have to update the
EuroPython wiki and hopefully the program).

PS. This email thread is purely to coordinate the Moderator page.
Questions posted via email will be IGNORED (with points off for
ignoring my request). Please wait for the Moderator page.

--
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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From fiona at justfiona.com  Mon Jul 19 13:18:52 2010
From: fiona at justfiona.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:18:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
Message-ID: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>

Where are people congregating every night?
It was mostly this bar that I forgot the name of last year, is it going 
to be the same this time?
Just throwing the thought out there.

Fi

From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 19 14:27:56 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:27:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] WiFi Key
In-Reply-To: <666893565-1279527307-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-930650139-@bda238.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
References: <666893565-1279527307-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-930650139-@bda238.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilltjUunoHHiHCxMKxFIa3QNjWqxvyRWhqRULU4@mail.gmail.com>

The said is europython2010 the password is europython.

On 19 Jul 2010 11:07, "Manuel Weidmann (Pixelbar GmbH)" <info at pixelbar.be>
wrote:

Hi!

Could someone tell me what the security key for the WiFi at venue is?

Thx ;-)

Manuel
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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jul 19 14:31:44 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:31:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikStrwShQTL2mGobyaufDZ4ZgiJ9X0HDvd8JM4z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTikStrwShQTL2mGobyaufDZ4ZgiJ9X0HDvd8JM4z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-fFZxJSCWYdP6iFrLh8PPS3br9_uAMI4MsNcH@mail.gmail.com>

There is a wiki page here http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials we will announce
this evening's social this afternoon

On 19 Jul 2010 13:25, "Fiona Burrows" <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:

Where are people congregating every night?
It was mostly this bar that I forgot the name of last year, is it going to
be the same this time?
Just throwing the thought out there.

Fi
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From guido at google.com  Mon Jul 19 14:34:35 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:34:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
In-Reply-To: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
References: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinkaL5xr4CAr-x1fgUaTRslkRiOMMTpoQIh_wSR@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:18, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
> Where are people congregating every night?
> It was mostly this bar that I forgot the name of last year, is it going to
> be the same this time?
> Just throwing the thought out there.

I don't know, but I strongly recommend splitting up in smaller groups
and going to different bars -- no bar will accommodate 389 delegates.
:-)

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From guido at google.com  Mon Jul 19 14:49:36 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:49:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] BDFL Keynote Thursday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimPMlYCAgDOG_6cP_mK1z5r-RMCPOfnlG8st4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimPMlYCAgDOG_6cP_mK1z5r-RMCPOfnlG8st4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil13HeSQRNdbdCGY8HRAoBGB1nX20dtqUAM4zuA@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I've created the Moderator page. The URL is:
http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1eaf8 . It'll open 24 hours
before the event. Hopefully Wednesday before Richard Jones's keynote
someone can announce it.

--Guido

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 14:24, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk> wrote:
> That sounds great. If you wish to announce it on Twitter then if you begin
> your tweet with @europython it will be retweeted.
>
> On 19 Jul 2010 12:06, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:
>
> As some of the organizers know, my EuroPython keynote (Thursday at 9am
> in the main session room, Adrian Boult Hall) will take the form of a
> Q&A session with questions asked online. I did this at the last PyCon
> using Twitter, which was less than ideal. This time I plan to do it
> using Google Moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator/) which lets
> people pose questions ahead of time and vote on them.
>
> My idea is to set up a Moderator page for this Q&A and open it up for
> questions sometime Wednesday (my experience is that opening up
> Moderator too early has a bad effect on the ranking of the questions).
>
> My only reason to post here is to make sure that none of the
> EuroPython organizers have already set up such a Moderator page;
> assuming they haven't I will set it up myself tomorrow, and announce
> it here and on Twitter (someone else will have to update the
> EuroPython wiki and hopefully the program).
>
> PS. This email thread is purely to coordinate the Moderator page.
> Questions posted via email will be IGNORED (with points off for
> ignoring my request). Please wait for the Moderator page.
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>



-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From judy at judy.co.uk  Mon Jul 19 18:56:46 2010
From: judy at judy.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:56:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-dvz6UgkpOb9o9h5r_Zxo3xNIoc2YwbmvYD6G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTinkaL5xr4CAr-x1fgUaTRslkRiOMMTpoQIh_wSR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik-dvz6UgkpOb9o9h5r_Zxo3xNIoc2YwbmvYD6G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikklhJtTBP4mqruxYxZyoNk1VsK345dezV0Zhvf@mail.gmail.com>

I plan to head to the Wellington around 7.30pm, to sample their fine
selection of beers, but haven't arranged to meet anyone there. Anyone care
to join me?

--Mark

On 19 Jul 2010 13:38, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:18, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
> Where are people congreg...
I don't know, but I strongly recommend splitting up in smaller groups
and going to different bars -- no bar will accommodate 389 delegates.
:-)

--
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

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From guido at google.com  Mon Jul 19 19:04:58 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:04:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikklhJtTBP4mqruxYxZyoNk1VsK345dezV0Zhvf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTinkaL5xr4CAr-x1fgUaTRslkRiOMMTpoQIh_wSR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik-dvz6UgkpOb9o9h5r_Zxo3xNIoc2YwbmvYD6G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikklhJtTBP4mqruxYxZyoNk1VsK345dezV0Zhvf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuvgx2kmC29kyRLxX9N0yLvhhbUlp6EI8HaiR9@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK that's also where the PSF meeting will be, starting at 7pm...

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 18:56, Mark Smith <judy at www.judy.co.uk> wrote:
> I plan to head to the Wellington around 7.30pm, to sample their fine
> selection of beers, but haven't arranged to meet anyone there. Anyone care
> to join me?
>
> --Mark
>
> On 19 Jul 2010 13:38, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:18, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
>> Where are people congreg...
>
> I don't know, but I strongly recommend splitting up in smaller groups
> and going to different bars -- no bar will accommodate 389 delegates.
> :-)
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http...



-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From guido at google.com  Mon Jul 19 19:25:19 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:25:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Booze, drink, etc
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuvgx2kmC29kyRLxX9N0yLvhhbUlp6EI8HaiR9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C44349C.30308@justfiona.com>
	<AANLkTinkaL5xr4CAr-x1fgUaTRslkRiOMMTpoQIh_wSR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik-dvz6UgkpOb9o9h5r_Zxo3xNIoc2YwbmvYD6G@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikklhJtTBP4mqruxYxZyoNk1VsK345dezV0Zhvf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikuvgx2kmC29kyRLxX9N0yLvhhbUlp6EI8HaiR9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmr5-CZbIAgFTLRF6Zm62j-fV7keWOkfb7uINM@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I was wrong. The PSF event was moved to BMI:
http://maps.google.co.uk/?iwloc=lyrftr:m,18242712216042565673,52.480644,-1.900399&z=17

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 18:04, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
> AFAIK that's also where the PSF meeting will be, starting at 7pm...
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 18:56, Mark Smith <judy at www.judy.co.uk> wrote:
>> I plan to head to the Wellington around 7.30pm, to sample their fine
>> selection of beers, but haven't arranged to meet anyone there. Anyone care
>> to join me?
>>
>> --Mark
>>
>> On 19 Jul 2010 13:38, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:18, Fiona Burrows <fiona at justfiona.com> wrote:
>>> Where are people congreg...
>>
>> I don't know, but I strongly recommend splitting up in smaller groups
>> and going to different bars -- no bar will accommodate 389 delegates.
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http...
>
>
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>



-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk  Mon Jul 19 18:54:56 2010
From: nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk (Nicholas Piper)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:54:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Veggie dinner social - Tuesday evening
Message-ID: <20100719165456.GA8120@zanu.org.uk>

Like we did last year:

Anyone who fancies coming for dinner (vegetarian place -
http://www.thewarehousecafe.com/whc/ ) on Tuesday, please add your name
to http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials . If you notice the list is over
10 people, then ping me (twitter thing is @nickpiper) to increase the
booking size*.

At the moment, we're planning to meet at 8pm (around the main entrance
- see the wiki in case someone writes better instructions for that)
and dinner at 8:30pm. You're welcome to go straight to the cafe too.

If many people request we move the booking earlier (we have +1 so far)
then that might happen, although I prefer to keep it the original time
to reduce confusion. Check the wiki sometime tomorrow afternoon just
in case please.

Once again: http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials , add your name if you
want to come. It's only a small place!

 Nick

* But first read on the page to see if this already happened.

-- 
Nick Piper                           GPG: 1024D/3ED8B27F
Open Source advocate, System Architect, Network Engineer

From r.taylor at bcs.org.uk  Mon Jul 19 21:16:28 2010
From: r.taylor at bcs.org.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:16:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Partner Programme Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilqvNFFQgTmeVDAYC-vo50taj00DO3oeYy8JUkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilqvNFFQgTmeVDAYC-vo50taj00DO3oeYy8JUkA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilqep3gxb2bEdHrE1_FOvctCntebtJU6woeofYI@mail.gmail.com>

Mary

I can not do this because I do not have access (or do not know how to
access) the talk system. It think that it will have to be Zeth or John that
makes the changes required in the talk system. Once they are done I can
update the schedule.

Richard


On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Mary Mooney <memooney at gmail.com> wrote:

> I cannot remember who is updating the wiki - but can this updated version
> of the Partner Programme be added today please?
>
>
> ------
> Mary Mooney DEUK
> +44 (0) 7914 079 026
>
> "A well-developed sense of humour is the pole that adds balance to your
> steps as you walk the tightrope of life.
> William Arthur Ward"
>
> Q:    What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous?
> A:    A canary with the super-user password.
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Mon Jul 19 21:17:28 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:17:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Partner Programme Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilqep3gxb2bEdHrE1_FOvctCntebtJU6woeofYI@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilqvNFFQgTmeVDAYC-vo50taj00DO3oeYy8JUkA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilqep3gxb2bEdHrE1_FOvctCntebtJU6woeofYI@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinoLegTBKrG2e3gD9bhPYHVnuKS372s23ab0GgD@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Richard Taylor <r.taylor at bcs.org.uk> wrote:

> Mary
>
> I can not do this because I do not have access (or do not know how to
> access) the talk system. It think that it will have to be Zeth or John that
> makes the changes required in the talk system. Once they are done I can
> update the schedule.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Mary Mooney <memooney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I cannot remember who is updating the wiki - but can this updated version
>> of the Partner Programme be added today please?
>>
>>
>> ------
>> Mary Mooney DEUK
>> +44 (0) 7914 079 026
>>
>> "A well-developed sense of humour is the pole that adds balance to your
>> steps as you walk the tightrope of life.
>> William Arthur Ward"
>>
>> Q:    What's tiny and yellow and very, very, dangerous?
>> A:    A canary with the super-user password.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
>> http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>
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From stephenw at invictustechnology.co.uk  Mon Jul 19 23:26:58 2010
From: stephenw at invictustechnology.co.uk (Stephen Welch)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:26:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: It's official: Software will be unpatentable in NZ
In-Reply-To: <0828CCDDF63DA24D8E52B2140929DA31043B8222@MAIL.universe.lon.ac.uk>
References: <4BCF8F49DF828642A54B78386B31EC990189393E@exchabk.SOUTH-THAMES.INTERNAL>
	<0828CCDDF63DA24D8E52B2140929DA31043B8222@MAIL.universe.lon.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilezn9EvRyapI7S0qWLGsFc3ak-be_F5CRbw3Mf@mail.gmail.com>

After sitting in on
http://www.europython.eu/talks/talk_abstracts/index.html#talk4 by
Regebro Lennart I thought this was and appropriate email to bounce
around following his entertaining talk about why open source works.

Stephen


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Philip Butler <p.butler at ulcc.ac.uk>
Date: 15 July 2010 12:31
Subject: It's official: Software will be unpatentable in NZ
To: MOODLE-UK at jiscmail.ac.uk


Wow; this has just hit the headlines in NZ:

http://bit.ly/ckTBIB

best wishes, and hope to see you at Mahara UK10 tomorrow!

http://www.maharauk.org/

Philip



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From guido at google.com  Tue Jul 20 13:23:25 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:23:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BDFL Keynote Thursday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil13HeSQRNdbdCGY8HRAoBGB1nX20dtqUAM4zuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimPMlYCAgDOG_6cP_mK1z5r-RMCPOfnlG8st4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil13HeSQRNdbdCGY8HRAoBGB1nX20dtqUAM4zuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_s09tGPNSaIf3QQlNC7-D04PlsBfS7T0G1RIE@mail.gmail.com>

I've created a bit.ly short ULR for this: http://bit.ly/bdflqa

Also since the wireless is so crap I've decided to open the Moderator page now.

Go spread the word!

--Guido

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:49, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
> OK, I've created the Moderator page. The URL is:
> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1eaf8 . It'll open 24 hours
> before the event. Hopefully Wednesday before Richard Jones's keynote
> someone can announce it.
>
> --Guido
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 14:24, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk> wrote:
>> That sounds great. If you wish to announce it on Twitter then if you begin
>> your tweet with @europython it will be retweeted.
>>
>> On 19 Jul 2010 12:06, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:
>>
>> As some of the organizers know, my EuroPython keynote (Thursday at 9am
>> in the main session room, Adrian Boult Hall) will take the form of a
>> Q&A session with questions asked online. I did this at the last PyCon
>> using Twitter, which was less than ideal. This time I plan to do it
>> using Google Moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator/) which lets
>> people pose questions ahead of time and vote on them.
>>
>> My idea is to set up a Moderator page for this Q&A and open it up for
>> questions sometime Wednesday (my experience is that opening up
>> Moderator too early has a bad effect on the ranking of the questions).
>>
>> My only reason to post here is to make sure that none of the
>> EuroPython organizers have already set up such a Moderator page;
>> assuming they haven't I will set it up myself tomorrow, and announce
>> it here and on Twitter (someone else will have to update the
>> EuroPython wiki and hopefully the program).
>>
>> PS. This email thread is purely to coordinate the Moderator page.
>> Questions posted via email will be IGNORED (with points off for
>> ignoring my request). Please wait for the Moderator page.
>>
>> --
>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>



-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From guido at google.com  Tue Jul 20 13:27:26 2010
From: guido at google.com (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:27:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BDFL Keynote Thursday
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik_s09tGPNSaIf3QQlNC7-D04PlsBfS7T0G1RIE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim-t0ATGfPOizZb48c6NaeDJVHpvtYEk8KQ-tjZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimPMlYCAgDOG_6cP_mK1z5r-RMCPOfnlG8st4Rw@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil13HeSQRNdbdCGY8HRAoBGB1nX20dtqUAM4zuA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik_s09tGPNSaIf3QQlNC7-D04PlsBfS7T0G1RIE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimyho__5uAiokZe6vSZ5ecgRBcB7-Cn33XIo3CA@mail.gmail.com>

And someone please put it in the EuroPython wiki or, better yet, in
the schedule.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:23, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
> I've created a bit.ly short ULR for this: http://bit.ly/bdflqa
>
> Also since the wireless is so crap I've decided to open the Moderator page now.
>
> Go spread the word!
>
> --Guido
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 13:49, Guido van Rossum <guido at google.com> wrote:
>> OK, I've created the Moderator page. The URL is:
>> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=1eaf8 . It'll open 24 hours
>> before the event. Hopefully Wednesday before Richard Jones's keynote
>> someone can announce it.
>>
>> --Guido
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 14:24, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk> wrote:
>>> That sounds great. If you wish to announce it on Twitter then if you begin
>>> your tweet with @europython it will be retweeted.
>>>
>>> On 19 Jul 2010 12:06, "Guido van Rossum" <guido at google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> As some of the organizers know, my EuroPython keynote (Thursday at 9am
>>> in the main session room, Adrian Boult Hall) will take the form of a
>>> Q&A session with questions asked online. I did this at the last PyCon
>>> using Twitter, which was less than ideal. This time I plan to do it
>>> using Google Moderator (http://www.google.com/moderator/) which lets
>>> people pose questions ahead of time and vote on them.
>>>
>>> My idea is to set up a Moderator page for this Q&A and open it up for
>>> questions sometime Wednesday (my experience is that opening up
>>> Moderator too early has a bad effect on the ranking of the questions).
>>>
>>> My only reason to post here is to make sure that none of the
>>> EuroPython organizers have already set up such a Moderator page;
>>> assuming they haven't I will set it up myself tomorrow, and announce
>>> it here and on Twitter (someone else will have to update the
>>> EuroPython wiki and hopefully the program).
>>>
>>> PS. This email thread is purely to coordinate the Moderator page.
>>> Questions posted via email will be IGNORED (with points off for
>>> ignoring my request). Please wait for the Moderator page.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>



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From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 15:00:23 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:00:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Pyjamas talk
Message-ID: <AANLkTikBVQu9eYyybzS51Ni5XYx6AfHqvtadJSwXMYvF@mail.gmail.com>

many many thanks to the people who turned up: my apologies for not
bringing my laptop - it turns out that it would not have worked
anyway, as the output is 1280x800 and the projector 1024x768!  if that
mismatch can ever be resolved i would like to do a quick 5min
lightning talk with some of the demos (fontforge SVG canvas) and web
sites (http://campusmixes.com).
so, thank you to everyone who listened, and i hope that the HTML5 talk
which clashed half way through was useful, too :)
l.

From alex at moreati.org.uk  Wed Jul 21 11:39:10 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:39:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Have you seen my screwdrivers?
Message-ID: <AANLkTil6e_gpZw2TaPU8n8HOyjw_LvyZXRj2L8PZTOtt@mail.gmail.com>

Somebody borrowed my screwdriver the other day to fix their laptop.
Could I have it back please?

Regards, Alex

P.S. Please feel free to mock me, but I really like that screwdriver :)
P.P.S Yes it is red
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Wed Jul 21 13:43:29 2010
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:43:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Organise a Code Dojo! Slides now online...
Message-ID: <A4AC51DF-CFBF-473B-9220-F693CDF72ACC@ntoll.org>

Guys,

FYI, the slides (I've also typed in some associated notes) from my talk this morning about our experiences with the London Python Code Dojo are now online at:

http://www.slideshare.net/ntoll/organise-a-code-dojo

As always, comments, feedback and questions most welcome!

Nicholas.

From arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 14:40:19 2010
From: arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com (Arnoldas Grigutis)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:40:19 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Have you seen my screwdrivers?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil6e_gpZw2TaPU8n8HOyjw_LvyZXRj2L8PZTOtt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil6e_gpZw2TaPU8n8HOyjw_LvyZXRj2L8PZTOtt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0-JXLydhwIqucfiUyt-hRY3x4aKHoVQl8G9fB@mail.gmail.com>

Lmao!

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk> wrote:

> Somebody borrowed my screwdriver the other day to fix their laptop.
> Could I have it back please?
>
> Regards, Alex
>
> P.S. Please feel free to mock me, but I really like that screwdriver :)
> P.P.S Yes it is red
> --
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From vilya.harvey at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 17:33:13 2010
From: vilya.harvey at gmail.com (Vilya Harvey)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:33:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Suggestion for next year
Message-ID: <AANLkTilfS7olNRLHg9QfXrLvIABB0CBpGz5_uZJkXtG4@mail.gmail.com>

Hiya,

A suggestion for next years conference: hold a fast-forward session on the
first day.

This is something I've seen at other conferences like Eurographics and
SIGGRAPH; it's both very useful and great fun. It's sort of like a condensed
version of the lightning talks (which have been great so far, BTW). The idea
is that everyone who's giving a talk gets 30 secs to come up on stage and
give an overview/sales pitch for their talk.

As a delegate, it makes it a lot easier to figure out which talks will be
interesting to you. You can get a feel for both the topic and the speaker,
much more so than with a published abstract and speaker bio. As a speaker,
you get to gauge audience interest in your topic. Some people just give a
summary of their talk, some people go for poetry or song or get even more
creative. Did I mention it's great fun? :-)

If you think it sounds like a good idea I'm happy to provide further details
on how to run it smoothly.

Hope that's useful,

Vil.
(Vilya Harvey)
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From luke.leighton at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 17:25:53 2010
From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:25:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] need help - need a "business advisor" for someone's
	"cloud computing" project
Message-ID: <AANLkTiknZCvpsb98q9GVF5nWYYfB7HhQKb8G-W-Zq_es@mail.gmail.com>

i immediately thought of russel winder (hi russel) somebody please do
kick him if you see him, but if anyone else believes that they would
qualify to be able to assess a business proposal to a friend of mine,
based in london, please do contact me, i put you in touch.  this
_isn't_ spam, i actually trust my friend to have worked that out
already.

basically my friend needs help to not get the wool pulled over his
eyes when hearing this guy's pitch.

l.

From alex at moreati.org.uk  Thu Jul 22 20:30:57 2010
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:30:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: Plone Conference 2010 Earlybird rate ends in 9
	days
In-Reply-To: <8E72E535-30A8-41AC-9FA6-ECF85DE2E1DB@netsight.co.uk>
References: <8E72E535-30A8-41AC-9FA6-ECF85DE2E1DB@netsight.co.uk>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimkR1QRK5_AJsNhCqRetINe53Uy09krPI0wtM8V@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
?Just to give any of those who are thinking of going a poke, we are
hosting the 8th International Plone Conference here in Bristol at the
end of October and the bargain earlybird rate of ?250+VAT for the
3-day conference ends at the end of the month.... just 9 days time!

So if you are using Plone, or interested in Plone, or just want to
come along and find out a bit more about it (or just want to come for
the mini beer and pie festival) then go register your tickets now:

http://www.ploneconf2010.org/

We are expecting over 400 delegates from around 30 countries to be
attending, with over 50 talks, plus training, sprints, and an
un-conference day.

For those of you wondering 'what the hell is a Plone?!', Plone is an
Open Source python web content management system used by all sorts of
organisations worldwide (Oxfam, NASA, Warwickshire Police Force,
Novell, etc) for their public websites or intranets. It has been under
active development for almost a decade, with over 10,000 svn commits
to the core system in the last 12 months alone.

As a slight aside... if you want to see how quick it is to get up and
running, here is a screencast I just did at Europython yesterday in
which I go from nothing but python installed to fully installed and
running Plone instance in under 3 minutes:

http://is.gd/dAqs1

-Matt

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From tom at tomdunham.org  Thu Jul 22 23:26:54 2010
From: tom at tomdunham.org (Thomas Dunham)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:26:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] where are the sprints being held?
Message-ID: <089350E1-5A88-43EE-A99F-AB4C437CFB98@tomdunham.org>

Hi all,
Sorry if I've missed something obvious, but I can't find the address of the building where sprints are being held. I was planning on going along tomorrow but I've no idea where I'm going. Could  someone could post it here (or put it on the site, or twitter it)?

Many thanks,
Tom


From white_keith at btopenworld.com  Fri Jul 23 00:48:39 2010
From: white_keith at btopenworld.com (Keith White)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:48:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython weather forecast.
Message-ID: <4C48CAC7.4050403@btopenworld.com>

What the partner programme got up to - a most terrible weather forecast 
presentation :-)

First go to this link:
www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/beontv
and enter the code: 072096603

It's available until only Tuesday 27th July.

Keith.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 02:12:31 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:12:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] where are the sprints being held?
In-Reply-To: <089350E1-5A88-43EE-A99F-AB4C437CFB98@tomdunham.org>
References: <089350E1-5A88-43EE-A99F-AB4C437CFB98@tomdunham.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmtDFLTwvJS-WMB3wzNsgDoWbN-HTFROV5vVX8@mail.gmail.com>

On 22 July 2010 22:26, Thomas Dunham <tom at tomdunham.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry if I've missed something obvious, but I can't find the address of the building where sprints are being held. I was planning on going along tomorrow but I've no idea where I'm going. Could ?someone could post it here (or put it on the site, or twitter it)?

9 Margaret Street, B3 3BS.  It's on the sprint page, witha map link:

http://wiki.europython.eu/Sprints

See you tomorrow!

John
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From tartley at tartley.com  Fri Jul 23 02:13:04 2010
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:13:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] where are the sprints being held?
In-Reply-To: <089350E1-5A88-43EE-A99F-AB4C437CFB98@tomdunham.org>
References: <089350E1-5A88-43EE-A99F-AB4C437CFB98@tomdunham.org>
Message-ID: <4C48DE90.5080907@tartley.com>

  Hey. Sprints are at the Birmingham and Midland Institute, Margaret St, 
B3 3BS http://j.mp/90tLq5


On 22/07/2010 22:26, Thomas Dunham wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry if I've missed something obvious, but I can't find the address of the building where sprints are being held. I was planning on going along tomorrow but I've no idea where I'm going. Could  someone could post it here (or put it on the site, or twitter it)?
>
> Many thanks,
> Tom
>
> _______________________________________________
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From cs at comlounge.net  Fri Jul 23 12:36:06 2010
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:36:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython weather forecast.
In-Reply-To: <4C48CAC7.4050403@btopenworld.com>
References: <4C48CAC7.4050403@btopenworld.com>
Message-ID: <4C497096.7070506@comlounge.net>

Am 22.07.10 23:48, schrieb Keith White:
> What the partner programme got up to - a most terrible weather forecast
> presentation :-)
> 
> First go to this link:
> www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/beontv
> and enter the code: 072096603

"Not available in your area".

That's why I love media companies to much ;-)

But I am sure it was great! :)

-- Christian


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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Sat Jul 24 09:11:29 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:11:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Blogs, slides, audio, video
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSRyxO+qreZbOrf581cE8aQcQZrX8J3d+4VxqY@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

If you know of:

   - a blog posting about EuroPython 2010
   - talk slides or related material
   - anything else mentioning the conference

Please add it to the wiki page: http://wiki.europython.eu/After

Thanks

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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Sat Jul 24 09:51:24 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:51:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Thanks to all the volunteers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimo6X5aQmH1pCvyRbEEnuYQ-3oXNBXpxnFe1jiL@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Just wanted to say a big thank you to all the volunteers.

I thought that we had a great conference and it was made more pleasurable by
the great support that we had during the conference.

Richard
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From richardjones at optushome.com.au  Sat Jul 24 10:07:53 2010
From: richardjones at optushome.com.au (Richard Jones)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:07:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Blogs, slides, audio, video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimSRyxO+qreZbOrf581cE8aQcQZrX8J3d+4VxqY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimSRyxO+qreZbOrf581cE8aQcQZrX8J3d+4VxqY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdjsiTt2PQ+ua7aOhXokDSOU6cVdvTYdQCfYWY@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Richard Taylor
<rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
> ?? - talk slides or related material

Video of my keynote, as presented at PyCon AU (there's some minor
changes), is at http://pyconau.blip.tv/file/3883287/


     Richard

ps. please don't view it at the sprints :-)

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 10:32:29 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:32:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Thanks to all the volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimo6X5aQmH1pCvyRbEEnuYQ-3oXNBXpxnFe1jiL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimo6X5aQmH1pCvyRbEEnuYQ-3oXNBXpxnFe1jiL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik3jMwvMuW88b=+mFXc4Z4XmTr6__FQuF7L+5xq@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 24 July 2010 08:51, Richard Taylor <rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> Just wanted to say a big thank you to all the volunteers.
> I thought that we had a great conference and it was made more pleasurable by
> the great support that we had during the conference.

I'd like to join Richard in thanking you all.

The conf is still on, as I write people are coming into the second day
of sprints.

Thanks again to you all for your support, I'm sure that next year the
PyCon IT guys in Florence will appreciate your help.

Best wishes,

John
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From s.mount at wlv.ac.uk  Sat Jul 24 11:10:38 2010
From: s.mount at wlv.ac.uk (Sarah Mount)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:10:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Thanks to all the volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimo6X5aQmH1pCvyRbEEnuYQ-3oXNBXpxnFe1jiL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimo6X5aQmH1pCvyRbEEnuYQ-3oXNBXpxnFe1jiL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSkqoCgcSveAZUk7aYfjazfM4lYI3fYmEAdl6d@mail.gmail.com>

On 24 July 2010 08:51, Richard Taylor <rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> Just wanted to say a big thank you to all the volunteers.
> I thought that we had a great conference and it was made more pleasurable by
> the great support that we had during the conference.


Seconded!

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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 15:35:34 2010
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:35:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Blogs, slides, audio, video
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimdjsiTt2PQ+ua7aOhXokDSOU6cVdvTYdQCfYWY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimSRyxO+qreZbOrf581cE8aQcQZrX8J3d+4VxqY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimdjsiTt2PQ+ua7aOhXokDSOU6cVdvTYdQCfYWY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4B7xHHne3e9f87G=e7OoXywd5E_Daj2q4=co8@mail.gmail.com>

All the talks videoed will be appearing here over the coming week or so:
    * http://europythonvideos.blip.tv/

There's over 100 videos to be transcoded and uploaded, so please be patient. :-)

This includes all the keynotes, lightning talks and dozens more :-)

I'll be starting with uploading the lightning talks though, primarily
because they don't need transcoding since they're short and smaller
than blip's maximum file size!

The final amount of video for those curious was 155GB. (Would've been
closer to 160GB, had it not been for the killer projector vs the
thinkpads. Hm. Probably a pyweek game in that...)


Michael.