From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Sun Oct 2 14:29:15 2005 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:29:15 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr> On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Michael Hudson wrote: > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) Hi there, Science Track I can take care of. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From paul at zope-europe.org Sun Oct 2 16:05:48 2005 From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:05:48 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: Hi Michael. I'm in for the Zope track. However, I wonder if it would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than just Zope. There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python these days for web frameworks. Lots of people might benefit from cross-pollination. --Paul On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's > probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- > towards EuroPython 2006. > > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) > > I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with > the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to > help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something > like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? > > But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and > awake. So: "BOO!" :) > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > >> Touche! But this confirms you are composed of logic gates. >> > Crud, I thought those were neurons in there. > -- Thomas F. Burdick, Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.lisp > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Sun Oct 2 16:30:50 2005 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:30:50 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20051002143050.GA27493@logilab.fr> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 04:05:48PM +0200, Paul Everitt wrote: > > Hi Michael. I'm in for the Zope track. However, I wonder if it > would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than > just Zope. There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python > these days for web frameworks. Lots of people might benefit from > cross-pollination. +1. I'd be curious to see what all the 'ruby on rails' contenders have to say compared to Zope/Cherry/Twisted elders. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 16:52:18 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:52:18 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr> (Nicolas Chauvat's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:29:15 +0200") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <2mslvkgee5.fsf@starship.python.net> Nicolas Chauvat writes: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Michael Hudson wrote: >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track >> chair :) > > Hi there, > > Science Track I can take care of. Cool, thanks for letting me know. Cheers, mwh -- After a heavy night I travelled on, my face toward home - the comma being by no means guaranteed. -- paraphrased from cam.misc From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 16:54:16 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:54:16 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin Massa's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:04:46 +0200") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net> Harald Armin Massa writes: > mese is awake. > > Just one thing that went to my mind the last second: > would someone else classify the action of "hiring martellibot and keeping > him so occupied he cannot post on c.l.p." as evil? > > in other notice I think I volunteered for a track chair; with absolutely > not sticking to the tutorial one (I am up for a change) OK, makes sense. What would you like to do, then? Python in Business or Python Success Stories or something along those lines? Cheers, mwh -- now you're probably wondering how to run cvs actually i was thinking of naked women. but sure. -- from Twisted.Quotes From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 16:58:54 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:58:54 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:33:07 +0100") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com> Message-ID: <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Sparks writes: > On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote: >> So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's >> probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- >> towards EuroPython 2006. > > In some respects the sooner things are started the easier they are. Oh, absolutely. >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track >> chair :) > > I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year. Cool. Python Frameworks, maybe? Unless we have a concurrency track :) >> I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with >> the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to >> help with that. > > Depending on the tools used I'd be willing to help out with the > website. (I've not actually used any of the well known python web > frameworks though - I tend to prefer to roll my own - which is what > we use on the kamaelia website.). Well, currently the site uses CPS (http://www.cps-project.org/) and I don't think there's any plans to redo everything completely. Anyway, it's not my problem :) Cheers, mwh -- 31. Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis, http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/perlis-alan/quotes.html From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 17:18:30 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:18:30 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: (Paul Everitt's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:05:48 +0200") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2mfyrkgd6h.fsf@starship.python.net> Paul Everitt writes: > Hi Michael. I'm in for the Zope track. However, I wonder if it > would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than > just Zope. There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python > these days for web frameworks. Lots of people might benefit from > cross-pollination. Yes, it would be nice to have more cross pollination, though I think there's also an appetite for the fairly hardcore Zope/Plone/CPS talk too. But I guess that's true for all tracks. Cheers, mwh -- If Unicode is a horde of zombies with flaming dung sticks, the hideous intricacies of JIS, Chinese Big-5, Chinese Traditional, KOI-8, et cetera are at least an army of ogres with salt and flensing knives. -- Eric S. Raymond, python-dev From magnus at thinkware.se Sun Oct 2 01:04:07 2005 From: magnus at thinkware.se (Magnus Lycka) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 01:04:07 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] =?iso-8859-1?q?Posters_next_year=3F?= Message-ID: When I've sneaked in on conferences full of scientists (I'm married to one) they've usually had an area where you can put up posters, and at certain times, people stand by their poster and answer questions etc. The poster is usually fairly big, A0 size I guess, i.e. 1 m2, and should be readable from at leat 2 m distance. I realize that some people don't have access to a plotter or printer that handles A0 paper, but tape and glue will help in that case. :) Just like talks, posters would be available in the program with an abstract. This is another means of communcation than holding a presentation. It's maybe not less work to prepare a good poster than to prepare a good talk, but I'm sure it's less intimidating for some people, and the posters have the big advantage that they can be observed at any time during the whole conference, not just in one particular half hour when you'd like to watch another presentation as well. It also means that you can present texts that are slightly longer than the ones that fit in presentation slides. Would this be a useful thing to consider? I think it fits with the CERN setting... /Magnus Lyck? -- Magnus Lyck?, Thinkware AB http://www.thinkware.se/ mailto:magnus at thinkware.se From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Sun Oct 2 17:46:32 2005 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:46:32 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Posters next year? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch> Hi, we at CERN had a discussion about proposing a poster session next year and personally I like the idea. The only problem - most of the people have no experience in making a poster and It is quite different from holding a presentation. Nevertheless +1 :-) by the way: there was the idea of making a conference poster (like for other science conferences). It could be printed by our printing service and then distributed... Cheers, Benedikt On 02.10.2005, at 01:04, Magnus Lycka wrote: > When I've sneaked in on conferences full of scientists > (I'm married to one) they've usually had an area where > you can put up posters, and at certain times, people > stand by their poster and answer questions etc. > > The poster is usually fairly big, A0 size I guess, i.e. > 1 m2, and should be readable from at leat 2 m distance. > I realize that some people don't have access to a plotter > or printer that handles A0 paper, but tape and glue will > help in that case. :) Just like talks, posters would be > available in the program with an abstract. > > This is another means of communcation than holding a > presentation. It's maybe not less work to prepare > a good poster than to prepare a good talk, but I'm > sure it's less intimidating for some people, and the > posters have the big advantage that they can be > observed at any time during the whole conference, > not just in one particular half hour when you'd like > to watch another presentation as well. > > It also means that you can present texts that are > slightly longer than the ones that fit in presentation > slides. > > Would this be a useful thing to consider? I think it > fits with the CERN setting... > > > /Magnus Lyck? > > -- > Magnus Lyck?, Thinkware AB > http://www.thinkware.se/ mailto:magnus at thinkware.se > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sun Oct 2 20:30:29 2005 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:29 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com> <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm.. > OK, makes sense. What would you like to do, then? Python in Business > or Python Success Stories or something along those lines? > > Yeah, Python Success Stories or sth along those lines. Python in Business is John Pinners baby, and he has done a GREAT job raising and growing it, it should florish with its father. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuasion python postgresql Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20051002/cd29776a/attachment.htm From hpk at trillke.net Sun Oct 2 20:30:37 2005 From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:37 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net> Hi, On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 13:47 +0100, Michael Hudson wrote: > So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's > probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- > towards EuroPython 2006. > > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile development" track. Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. holger From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Sun Oct 2 21:49:12 2005 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:49:12 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net> Message-ID: <20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr> Hi, On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 08:30:37PM +0200, holger krekel wrote: > Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile > development" track. Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing > list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. During previous years it's been done on this list and it worked out fine. IMHO conference "users" subscribed to this same list will provide the most important input regarding track scope since they are the ones that will be attending. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 22:12:17 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:12:17 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr> (Nicolas Chauvat's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:49:12 +0200") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net> <20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <2my85bfzku.fsf@starship.python.net> Nicolas Chauvat writes: > Hi, > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 08:30:37PM +0200, holger krekel wrote: >> Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile >> development" track. Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing >> list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. > > During previous years it's been done on this list and it worked out > fine. IMHO conference "users" subscribed to this same list will > provide the most important input regarding track scope since they are > the ones that will be attending. Absolutely. If this list gets too busy we can make a separate list, but for now let's keep things out in the open. Cheers, mwh -- MAN: How can I tell that the past isn't a fiction designed to account for the discrepancy between my immediate physical sensations and my state of mind? -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 12 From mwh at python.net Sun Oct 2 22:23:45 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:23:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin Massa's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:29 +0200") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com> <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net> <7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2mu0fzfz1q.fsf@starship.python.net> Harald Armin Massa writes: > Hmmm.. > > OK, makes sense. What would you like to do, then? Python in Business > or Python Success Stories or something along those lines? > > Yeah, Python Success Stories or sth along those lines. Python in Business > is John Pinners baby, and he has done a GREAT job raising and growing it, > it should florish with its father. Well, this brings up a related issue: what tracks to we want to have? I'm a tiny bit worried about ending up with tracks like "Zope for people who've used PHP a bit and once watched a Monty Python episode". To an extent it makes sense to find out who's willing and able to chair tracks and then find out what tracks they want to chair, though that risks getting a rather unbalanced program. Cheers, mwh -- THEOS: Mad cow. Utterly fucking insane cow, in fact. A cow so mad it thinks it's a tetapot. The swamp dragon of the OS world. -- Jim's pedigree of operating systems, asr From aiste at pov.lt Mon Oct 3 09:39:12 2005 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:39:12 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4340E020.8010400@pov.lt> Hello, > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) I also remember thinking about being a track chair. Of something not too technical :) So you can count me in. > But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and > awake. So: "BOO!" :) And what am I supposed to do with all that tea on my keyboard?.. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From dario at ita.chalmers.se Mon Oct 3 09:38:23 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:38:23 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Planning and Minutes from post-Conference meeting (Re: knock, knock!) In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4340DFEF.2070609@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's >probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- >towards EuroPython 2006. > > Hello all, nice to the flurry of activity that occurs on the list. I attach the minutes from the Post-Conference meeting a bunch of us had on the evening of the last confernce day. I can also inform you that Benedikt Heger and myself have made some preliminary preparation trying to sort out some of the practical stuff in advance. I'll finish with pointing out the following points the minutes -----<>----- ============================= What we need to do NOW ============================= * have the page say wtha we are doing CERN - closing the conference on the website. * mailing people that we are having a new confernece * sending thankyoumails to attendatns * start marekting the conference * contact the PSF. * start tracking the local media * se if we can broacast the speeches and prepare for this ============ Open Issues ============ * who is doing the websites * who is doing the marketing, announcements etc. * Should we reuse the registrationsystem? What say the organisers? -----<>----- Comments and additions and corrections are appreciated. Thanks, /dario -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Meeting 2005-06-29.txt Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20051003/38c96123/Meeting2005-06-29.txt From chris at simplistix.co.uk Mon Oct 3 09:56:22 2005 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:56:22 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4340E426.9040504@simplistix.co.uk> Yeah, but Zope/Plone probably has enough stuff of it's own to merit its own track, especially when you roll in things like Zope 3 and ECMS... cheers, Chris Paul Everitt wrote: > Hi Michael. I'm in for the Zope track. However, I wonder if it > would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than > just Zope. There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python > these days for web frameworks. Lots of people might benefit from > cross-pollination. > > --Paul > > On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > > >>So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's >>probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- >>towards EuroPython 2006. >> >>I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which >>means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track >>chair :) >> >>I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with >>the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to >>help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something >>like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? >> >>But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and >>awake. So: "BOO!" :) >> >>Cheers, >>mwh >> >>-- >> >> >>>Touche! But this confirms you are composed of logic gates. >>> >> >> Crud, I thought those were neurons in there. >> -- Thomas F. Burdick, Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.lisp >>_______________________________________________ >>EuroPython mailing list >>EuroPython at python.org >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython >> > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From mwh at python.net Mon Oct 3 12:01:36 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:01:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:47:52 +0100") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Hudson writes: > So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's > probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- > towards EuroPython 2006. So people are still awake and interested... this is good :) > I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > chair :) There seem to be enough of these. > I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with > the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to > help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something > like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? There has been less activity here... as I see it, there are five roles that could do with being "owned" by someone: - the programme (that's me, folks) - the website - sprints - marketing - local stuff Local stuff is Benedikt and his friends (no choice there, I'm afraid). I don't really have a clue who is going to own any of the other roles. I'm willing (like many others, I hope/expect) to help on the website, but there's no way I'm taking on that hat too. Cheers, mwh -- You're going to have to remember that I still think of Twisted as a big multiplayer game, and all this HTTP stuff is just kind of a grotty way to display room descriptions. -- Glyph Lefkowitz From hpk at trillke.net Mon Oct 3 12:17:56 2005 From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:17:56 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20051003101756.GX4208@solar.trillke.net> On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 11:01 +0100, Michael Hudson wrote: > Michael Hudson writes: > > I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with > > the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to > > help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something > > like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? > > There has been less activity here... as I see it, there are five roles > that could do with being "owned" by someone: > > - the programme (that's me, folks) > - the website > - sprints > - marketing Regarding PR/marketing Paul Everitt and me are trying to meet up in Paris next week and start talking about it. Benedikt asked me already in Goteborg if i wanted to do this and i then asked Paul to team up with me. cheers, holger From tom.deprez at village.uunet.be Mon Oct 3 20:58:52 2005 From: tom.deprez at village.uunet.be (tom) Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:58:52 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be> Hello, As last year, I'm not sure if can help a lot, I'll see what I can do (or if people have suggestions...). Unfortunately, from experience of last year, I'm unable to get on the IRC talks, so I hope people post now and then something on the mailing list, so I can pick it up at night. Regards, Tom Michael Hudson wrote: >So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's >probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point -- >towards EuroPython 2006. > >I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which >means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track >chair :) > >I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with >the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to >help with that. In particular, could someone who can put something >like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site? > >But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and >awake. So: "BOO!" :) > >Cheers, >mwh > > > From dario at ita.chalmers.se Tue Oct 4 11:13:38 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:13:38 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be> Message-ID: <434247C2.1050106@ita.chalmers.se> tom wrote: >Hello, > >As last year, I'm not sure if can help a lot, I'll see what I can do (or >if people have suggestions...). >Unfortunately, from experience of last year, I'm unable to get on the >IRC talks, so I hope people post now and then something on the mailing >list, so I can pick it up at night. > I will try to do this as much as possible. /dario From dario at ita.chalmers.se Wed Oct 5 09:33:34 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media Message-ID: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se> Hello all, Geoff Bache and emily Bache held a presentation in EuroPython 2005: http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/talk.chtml?talk=2017&track=690 Geoff was interviewed in this Monday's issue of Computer Sweden, a local Swedish IT-magazie, that comes out 3 times a week. You can find the article here: http://computersweden.idg.se/ArticlePages/200509/29/20050929143707_CS766/20050929143707_CS766.dbp.asp The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is written in Python :-) Something for the marketing people to pursue/use? Cheers, /dario From skromta at gmail.com Wed Oct 5 11:49:20 2005 From: skromta at gmail.com (Kalle Anke) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:49:20 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org> On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote (in article <434381CE.7050507 at ita.chalmers.se>): > The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is > written in Python :-) Considering that it was Computer Sweden I'm not surprised (have they ever gotten anything right) From zathras at thwackety.com Thu Oct 6 02:00:11 2005 From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:11 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Posters next year? In-Reply-To: <491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch> References: <491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200510060100.12018.zathras@thwackety.com> On Sunday 02 October 2005 16:46, Benedikt Hegner wrote: ... > we at CERN had a discussion about proposing a poster session next > year and personally I like the idea. The only problem - most of the > people have no experience in making a poster and It is quite > different from holding a presentation. Nevertheless +1 :-) +1 BTW, if this suggestion goes ahead, if we could get people to produce their posters in advance, its *possible* that I might be able to get the printed up at work. I'd have to discuss that with people, but we do have inhouse printing (and poster making) facilities. IMO, the lack of experience of making posters is likely to be more than made up for by the exhuberance people have shown at Euro Python. They might not be all "standard" form then, but I suspect they'd be a really cool eclectic mix :-) I'd also suggest that the posters need not have an associated talk. (Some people REALLY don't like standing up in front of people, but have some very interesting things to say!/they're doing!) Michael. From zathras at thwackety.com Thu Oct 6 02:00:21 2005 From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:21 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:58, Michael Hudson wrote: > Michael Sparks writes: > > On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote: > >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which > >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track > >> chair :) > > > > I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year. > > Cool. Python Frameworks, maybe? Sounds good to me :-) Have we considered a games track BTW? It strikes me that one of the more public uses of python at the moment, and a big draw is writing games. It's also potentially the sort of area which you could potentially draw in a sponsor for. (Track sponsors?) A games track could cover things like pygame, pygame toolsets, how to embed python inside a games engine, exposing C/C++ objects as python objects & vice versa and similar areas. I know some of these areas aren't really specific to games, but they are specifically interesting to games people. > Unless we have a concurrency track :) Lots of people do seem to be looking at that area at the moment, but I don't really see the point of specialising it. ( *sobs* ;-) ) > [ Volunteering to help with website ] > > Well, currently the site uses CPS (http://www.cps-project.org/) and I > don't think there's any plans to redo everything completely. Fair enough -- I'll take a look at it :-) One thing I might do is go through the website (probably at the weekend or next week though) and list the functions of all the pages in the site from last year. > Anyway, it's not my problem :) :-) Regards, Michael. From dario at ita.chalmers.se Thu Oct 6 07:02:54 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:02:54 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media In-Reply-To: <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org> References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se> <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org> Message-ID: <4344AFFE.3080303@ita.chalmers.se> Kalle Anke wrote: >On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote >(in article <434381CE.7050507 at ita.chalmers.se>): > > > >>The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is >>written in Python :-) >> >> > >Considering that it was Computer Sweden I'm not surprised (have they ever >gotten anything right) > > I *think* I once read an article that was quite accurate.... :-) But seriously... even if there are varying opinions about the quality of ComputerSweden it is one of the major, if not THE major, IT-publicaton in Sweden, and the fact that they even mention something that is based on Python (even if they fail to mention that it is Python), is a major step forward. One step at at a time... :-) /dario From mwh at python.net Thu Oct 6 11:21:52 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:21:52 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's message of "Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:21 +0100") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> Message-ID: <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Sparks writes: > On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:58, Michael Hudson wrote: >> Michael Sparks writes: >> > On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote: >> >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which >> >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track >> >> chair :) >> > >> > I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year. >> >> Cool. Python Frameworks, maybe? > > Sounds good to me :-) > > Have we considered a games track BTW? No. Or at least, I hadn't before now. > It strikes me that one of the more public uses of python at the > moment, and a big draw is writing games. It's also potentially the > sort of area which you could potentially draw in a sponsor > for. (Track sponsors?) > > A games track could cover things like pygame, pygame toolsets, how to embed > python inside a games engine, exposing C/C++ objects as python objects & vice > versa and similar areas. I know some of these areas aren't really specific to > games, but they are specifically interesting to games people. Well, do you think you could get talks for this track? As I said, I'd like to avoid having too many tracks because I personally think it's a bit confusing, and I'd prefer to have reasonably broad tracks so as not to scare people off because they think they're talk won't "fit". Cheers, mwh -- (FREE|OPEN) BSD: Shire horse. Solid, reliable, only occasionally prone to crushing you against a wall and then only because you've told it to without knowing. -- Jim's pedigree of operating systems, asr From skromta at gmail.com Thu Oct 6 12:03:52 2005 From: skromta at gmail.com (Kalle Anke) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:03:52 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se> <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org> <4344AFFE.3080303@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <0001HW.BF6AC32800DBF7E6F0407550@news.gmane.org> On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 07:02:54 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote (in article <4344AFFE.3080303 at ita.chalmers.se>): >> I *think* I once read an article that was quite accurate.... > > :-) 8-) I usually read it as light entertainment during lunch > One step at at a time... :-) 8-) From zathras at thwackety.com Thu Oct 6 22:09:31 2005 From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:09:31 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote: > Michael Sparks writes: > > Have we considered a games track BTW? > > No. Or at least, I hadn't before now. > Well, do you think you could get talks for this track? As I said, I'd > like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc] I agree with that rationale. How about explicitly including in the scope of the frameworks track (or another, but games frameworks are more generally interesting often I think than people give credence to) to include games integration & games frameworks? The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a python integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a 3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit As for getting talks? I suspect/hope it should be quite easy :-) What would be nice in many respects is to get people together working on different systems and find ways of integrating between them. Regards, Michael From mwh at python.net Thu Oct 6 23:30:51 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:30:51 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's message of "Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:09:31 +0100") References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> Message-ID: <2m1x2ye3jo.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Sparks writes: > On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote: >> Michael Sparks writes: >> > Have we considered a games track BTW? >> >> No. Or at least, I hadn't before now. > >> Well, do you think you could get talks for this track? As I said, I'd >> like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc] > > I agree with that rationale. How about explicitly including in the scope > of the frameworks track (or another, but games frameworks are more > generally interesting often I think than people give credence to) to > include games integration & games frameworks? Well, my quibble here is that a "Games track" would, I hope, include talks from projects that have successfully used python... and that doesn't seem to fit into a frameworks track. > The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a python > integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a > 3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like > Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit OTOH, this seems to be something you're interested in and knowledgable about and I certainly don't want to hold your back :) > As for getting talks? I suspect/hope it should be quite easy :-) I'll take your word on that :) > What would be nice in many respects is to get people together > working on different systems and find ways of integrating between > them. How about putting out some feelers now? If you get three or four leads now-ish, then we can be reasonably confident of filling a half day or so on the subject come the conference, I'd hope. Cheers, mwh -- Structure is _nothing_ if it is all you got. Skeletons _spook_ people if they try to walk around on their own. I really wonder why XML does not. -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp From dario at ita.chalmers.se Fri Oct 7 08:51:59 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:51:59 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> Message-ID: <43461B0F.4060202@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Sparks wrote: > The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a > python > >integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a >3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like >Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit > > there is also Panda3D, www.panda3d.org, that has python as one of it's 3d-app development languages... used in some commercial games... /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-Ka"sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Fri Oct 7 23:30:14 2005 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 23:30:14 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> Message-ID: <20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:09:31PM +0100, Michael Sparks wrote: > On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote: > > Michael Sparks writes: > > > Have we considered a games track BTW? > > > > No. Or at least, I hadn't before now. > > > Well, do you think you could get talks for this track? As I said, I'd > > like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc] I'd say get people to come talk about games first then make it into a track of itself in case there is enough of them, which would be fun. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From zathras at thwackety.com Sat Oct 8 00:34:12 2005 From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 23:34:12 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock! In-Reply-To: <20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr> References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> <20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <200510072334.12895.zathras@thwackety.com> On Friday 07 October 2005 22:30, Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > which would be fun. Friday night silly idea: * What about the idea of a "Fun Track" ? I write code because I find it fun. I work in software related work, because luckily the two can co-incide, but the fact remains I find coding *FUN*. I fought to get our stuff released to the outside world, for all the reasons I argued internally, but also because we're having fun with our stuff, and it's nice to share the toys around. I also know if I had limbs chopped off it wouldn't stop me writing code. It's FUN. :-) Some people don't understand the concept of "what do you do for a living" "I write code", followed by "What do you do for fun" "I write code" as being a valid answer. If however you answered "I'm an artist" they wouldn't find the idea of painting being fun odd. Having a FUN track ( or theme?) might help towards changing that. EuroPython, *ESPECIALLY* lightning talks is about the infectious fun of python, coding and related things to me. After all, my lightning talk last year was about something I'd done for >>fun<<. It was probably mad, but that's not the point :-) I think I'm indebted though on some level to Armin for showing me how presentations on stuff should be done - now they're fun all by themselves :-) I suppose games come under the fun category too ;-) Dont-take-too-seriously-cos-its-friday-night-ly, Michael. (Proposing random tracks, not so they get set up, but as the email equivalent of brainstorming the purpose of tracks) From roger.ineichen at projekt01.ch Wed Oct 19 11:38:19 2005 From: roger.ineichen at projekt01.ch (Roger Ineichen) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:38:19 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006 Message-ID: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> Dear organisators My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the next EuroPython will be located. My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there? I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation. The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/SprintSched ule Can you give me the right contact address for future questions? Thanks a lot Roger Ineichen _____________________________ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch Langackerstrasse 8 6330 Cham phone +41 (0)41 781 01 78 mobile +41 (0)79 340 52 32 fax +41 (0)41 781 00 78 email r.ineichen at projekt01.ch _____________________________ END OF MESSAGE From mwh at python.net Wed Oct 19 12:08:45 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:08:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006 In-Reply-To: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> (Roger Ineichen's message of "Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:38:19 +0200") References: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> Message-ID: <2mek6h95ua.fsf@starship.python.net> "Roger Ineichen" writes: > Dear organisators > > My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the > next EuroPython will be located. > > My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there? I certainly hope so :) > I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was > organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint > in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation. > > The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info: > http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/SprintSched > ule > > Can you give me the right contact address for future questions? Um, I think here is as good as anywhere. The local boss man or whatever you want to call him is Benedikt Hegner and I really hope he's subscribed to this list :) I don't think anyone has yet volunteered to take overall charge of the 'sprint issue' -- want a job? :) Cheers, mwh -- SamB: PHP's basic control structure is the "database timeout error". -- from Twisted.Quotes From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Wed Oct 19 12:35:10 2005 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:35:10 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006 In-Reply-To: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> References: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> Message-ID: <63494832-D059-45CF-AE6F-1F9550B602E3@cern.ch> Hello Roger, of course you can organize a sprint here. For questions - just use this list. :-) Cheers Benedikt On 19.10.2005, at 11:38, Roger Ineichen wrote: > Dear organisators > > My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the > next EuroPython will be located. > > My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there? > I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was > organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint > in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation. > > The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info: > http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ > SprintSched > ule > > Can you give me the right contact address for future questions? > > > Thanks a lot > Roger Ineichen > _____________________________ > Projekt01 GmbH > www.projekt01.ch > Langackerstrasse 8 > 6330 Cham > phone +41 (0)41 781 01 78 > mobile +41 (0)79 340 52 32 > fax +41 (0)41 781 00 78 > email r.ineichen at projekt01.ch > _____________________________ > END OF MESSAGE > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > From dario at ita.chalmers.se Fri Oct 28 08:17:23 2005 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:17:23 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Pong! Message-ID: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se> Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise. May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon? What times suit people best? We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the announcements doing? I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I don't know if that is good or bad. I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays. If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the meetings would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last more than one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :) Opinions? Counter-suggestions? /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From mwh at python.net Fri Oct 28 10:28:54 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:28:54 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Pong! In-Reply-To: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se> ( =?iso-8859-1?q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten's_message_of?= "Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:17:23 +0200") References: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net> Dario Lopez-K?sten writes: > Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise. > > May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon? A good idea! > What times suit people best? > > We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the announcements > doing? > > I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I > don't know if that is good or bad. > > I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I > generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays. Coincidentally, I'm fairly likely to be free on Mondays and Thursdays too... > If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the meetings > would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last more than > one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :) Well, I'm not sure that < 1 hour, only every fortnight are bad things at this stage :) Cheers, mwh -- nonono, while we're making wild conjectures about the behavior of completely irrelevant tasks, we must not also make serious mistakes, or the data might suddenly become statistically valid. -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp From paul at zope-europe.org Fri Oct 28 10:36:26 2005 From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:36:26 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Pong! In-Reply-To: <2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se> <2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Dario Lopez-K?sten writes: > > >> Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise. >> >> May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon? >> > > A good idea! > > >> What times suit people best? >> >> We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the >> announcements >> doing? >> >> I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I >> don't know if that is good or bad. >> >> I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I >> generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays. >> > > Coincidentally, I'm fairly likely to be free on Mondays and Thursdays > too... > > >> If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the >> meetings >> would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last >> more than >> one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :) >> > > Well, I'm not sure that < 1 hour, only every fortnight are bad things > at this stage :) Me too. --Paul