From sf at nuxeo.com Mon Dec 12 16:44:53 2005 From: sf at nuxeo.com (Stefane Fermigier) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:53 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC 2006 Message-ID: <439D9AF5.5020807@nuxeo.com> Hi guys and gals, this list is quite quite (?), I'm wondering if there is some underground activity regarding the preparation of EuroPython 2006. I'd like to make a short personal comment: I had a great time this year in G?teborg this year, and enjoyed the talks a lot. But I was a bit disappointed by two points: - there were less people than the previous year - almost everybody at the conference was also a speaker - almost everybody had already been there at the previous EPCs (OK, that's three points, but they are somehow related.) In other words, we were preaching the converted. For EPC2006, do you believe that it would be possible to make more noise and more buzz before the conference, to try to recruit speakers and non-speakers outside the usual circles, and overall try to get more exposure for the conference than last year ? I think that, like we did for the first EPC (IIRC), we should issue a press release before the end of the year. S. -- St?fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile). Nuxeo Collaborative Portal Server: http://www.nuxeo.com/cps Gestion de contenu web / portail collaboratif / groupware / open source! From mwh at python.net Wed Dec 14 18:03:51 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:03:51 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff Message-ID: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's conference. The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get moved a bit. Comments? I also set up a place holder page on the python.org wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006 with the idea being that this will be the central place to go for EP2006 organizational information (even if the actual information is somewhere else, I hoped it's at least linked to from there). Cheers, mwh -- The snakes are optional, as are the electrodes, the molten lead and the ritual buggering by syphilitic warthogs. -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, asr From mwh at python.net Wed Dec 14 17:41:16 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:41:16 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] EPC 2006 In-Reply-To: <439D9AF5.5020807@nuxeo.com> (Stefane Fermigier's message of "Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:44:53 +0100") References: <439D9AF5.5020807@nuxeo.com> Message-ID: <2moe3j6383.fsf@starship.python.net> Stefane Fermigier writes: > Hi guys and gals, > > this list is quite quite (?), "quiet", and yes. > I'm wondering if there is some underground activity regarding the > preparation of EuroPython 2006. I don't know. There's been some talking here and there but if it's still happening I've lost touch of it again. > I'd like to make a short personal comment: I had a great time this year > in G?teborg this year, and enjoyed the talks a lot. But I was a bit > disappointed by two points: > > - there were less people than the previous year Yes. But it seems that every time the conference has stayed put, attendance has dropped (sample size of 2, i know, but...). I think Gtbg 1 was the busiest EP. > - almost everybody at the conference was also a speaker You say this like it was a bad thing! :) This fact changes the conference financially and organisationally, to be sure, but you'll have to talk very fast to convince me that this level of participation is unfortunate... > - almost everybody had already been there at the previous EPCs > > (OK, that's three points, but they are somehow related.) > > In other words, we were preaching the converted. > > For EPC2006, do you believe that it would be possible to make more noise > and more buzz before the conference, Yes. Takes effort and time, though. > to try to recruit speakers and non-speakers outside the usual > circles, and overall try to get more exposure for the conference > than last year ? Obviously these would all be good things. > I think that, like we did for the first EPC (IIRC), we should issue a > press release before the end of the year. Well, that's fairly soon now. Do you want to write it? :) Cheers, mwh -- 58. Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. Some can avoid ? it. Geniuses remove it. -- Alan Perlis, http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/perlis-alan/quotes.html From aiste at pov.lt Thu Dec 15 10:30:51 2005 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:30:51 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on > #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's > conference. +1 > The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of > January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get > moved a bit. Comments? It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, i.e. 1700 GMT+1. > I also set up a place holder page on the python.org wiki: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006 > > with the idea being that this will be the central place to go for > EP2006 organizational information (even if the actual information is > somewhere else, I hoped it's at least linked to from there). Good idea. - -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDoTfLfK7m+cZVdY0RAkSWAKCN4BukpVUNTVDdtpeFmHbzlRL07QCdHXjl DEvZh0vw1De2jmdeSPZIpco= =L6Lb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From paul at zope-europe.org Thu Dec 15 10:07:30 2005 From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:07:30 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <684E9F8A-4BB2-4720-83C5-D637002B0F57@zope-europe.org> That date is fine for me. Please, though, send reminders a few days in advance. :^) --Paul On Dec 14, 2005, at 6:03 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on > #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's > conference. The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of > January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get > moved a bit. Comments? > > I also set up a place holder page on the python.org wiki: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006 > > with the idea being that this will be the central place to go for > EP2006 organizational information (even if the actual information is > somewhere else, I hoped it's at least linked to from there). > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > The snakes are optional, as are the electrodes, the molten lead > and the ritual buggering by syphilitic warthogs. > -- Tanuki the Raccoon-dog, asr > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > From mwh at python.net Thu Dec 15 15:34:50 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:34:50 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> (Aiste Kesminaite's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:30:51 +0200") References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> Message-ID: <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> Aiste Kesminaite writes: >> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on >> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's >> conference. > > +1 > >> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of >> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get >> moved a bit. Comments? > > It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, i.e. 1700 > GMT+1. Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone else? Cheers, mwh -- ARTHUR: Why should he want to know where his towel is? FORD: Everybody should know where his towel is. ARTHUR: I think your head's come undone. -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 7 From paul at zope-europe.org Thu Dec 15 15:45:26 2005 From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:45:26 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <91662229-F906-4413-8E89-7EBBF91D87FA@zope-europe.org> On Dec 15, 2005, at 3:34 PM, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite writes: > >>> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC >>> meeting on >>> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's >>> conference. >> >> +1 >> >>> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of >>> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get >>> moved a bit. Comments? >> >> It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, >> i.e. 1700 >> GMT+1. > > Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone > else? No problem for me. --Paul From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Thu Dec 15 16:16:14 2005 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:16:14 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <3CBBA6B1-0C7E-4C97-8C4A-BD342BFACBFC@cern.ch> For me it's okay. At the meeting I will give a detailed status about preparations at CERN. We have still the possibility of printing a conference poster for announcement. Maybe someone feels motivated to design one during Xmas holidays. ;-) Another poster topic: there was the question about having a poster session. We pre-booked space for that. It must be confirmed until end of January. Maybe you can think about your opinion before the IRC meeting. Cheers Benedikt On 15.12.2005, at 15:34, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite writes: > >>> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC >>> meeting on >>> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's >>> conference. >> >> +1 >> >>> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of >>> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get >>> moved a bit. Comments? >> >> It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, >> i.e. 1700 >> GMT+1. > > Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone > else? > > Cheers, > mwh > > -- > ARTHUR: Why should he want to know where his towel is? > FORD: Everybody should know where his towel is. > ARTHUR: I think your head's come undone. > -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 7 > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From hpk at trillke.net Thu Dec 15 17:09:22 2005 From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:09:22 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20051215160922.GF18184@solar.trillke.net> On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 14:34 +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > Aiste Kesminaite writes: > > >> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on > >> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's > >> conference. > > > > +1 > > > >> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of > >> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get > >> moved a bit. Comments? > > > > It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, i.e. 1700 > > GMT+1. > > Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone else? I am fine - although i don't know in which timezone i will be at that time :) I suggest to prepare an agenda for the meeting and appoint someone for moderation that has experience on how to keep things short and to the point :) Not that i have anything against a nice chat - mind you - but for co-ordinating it's more fun to have clear conclusions yadda yadda ... cheers, holger From mwh at python.net Fri Dec 16 12:00:59 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:00:59 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <20051215160922.GF18184@solar.trillke.net> (holger krekel's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:09:22 +0100") References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <43A137CB.10100@pov.lt> <2m3bku5sz9.fsf@starship.python.net> <20051215160922.GF18184@solar.trillke.net> Message-ID: <2my82l487o.fsf@starship.python.net> hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) writes: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 14:34 +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: >> Aiste Kesminaite writes: >> >> >> I (and Holger) think it would be a good idea to have an IRC meeting on >> >> #europython early in the new year to talk about next year's >> >> conference. >> > >> > +1 >> > >> >> The first suggested time/date is Monday the 9th of >> >> January at 1800 GMT+1, but if no-one else can make this it'll get >> >> moved a bit. Comments? >> > >> > It would be more convenient for me to have it an hour earlier, i.e. 1700 >> > GMT+1. >> >> Makes little difference to me. Paul? Benedikt? Holger? Anyone else? > > I am fine - although i don't know in which timezone i will be at that > time :) :) > I suggest to prepare an agenda for the meeting and appoint > someone for moderation that has experience on how to keep things > short and to the point :) Makes sense. I guess 30 minutes might be too depending on how much Benedikt has to say, but an hour is a sensible upper limit IMO. Cheers, mwh -- Have you considered downgrading your arrogance to a reasonable level? -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp, to yet another C++-using troll From mwh at python.net Fri Dec 16 12:01:35 2005 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:01:35 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC meeting and other organizational fluff In-Reply-To: <684E9F8A-4BB2-4720-83C5-D637002B0F57@zope-europe.org> (Paul Everitt's message of "Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:07:30 +0100") References: <2mbqzj626g.fsf@starship.python.net> <684E9F8A-4BB2-4720-83C5-D637002B0F57@zope-europe.org> Message-ID: <2mu0d9486o.fsf@starship.python.net> Paul Everitt writes: > That date is fine for me. Please, though, send reminders a few days > in advance. :^) iChat is now rigged to remind me to remind you all :) Cheers, mwh -- Also, whenever a programmer thinks, "Hey, skins, what a cool idea", their computer's speakers should create some sort of cock-shaped soundwave and plunge it repeatedly through their skulls. -- http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=jwz&itemid=123070 From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 10:35:10 2005 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:35:10 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] please update more of the webpage Message-ID: <7be3f35d0512230135m5a72ce06i@mail.gmail.com> Now that 2005 is ending, I think it should be the time to make some cosmetic changes to www.europython.org 1.) change the tag to Europython 2005 2.) change 27-29 June 2005, G?teborg, Sweden Europython is an annual conference for the Python and Zope communities. It circulates between different sites in Europe. Having started in Charleroi, Belgium, it is now in G?teborg, Sweden and will move to CERN in Swizerland next year. Europython is a community conference run by volunteers. to the appropriate time and space coordinates of 2006. 3.) change "highlights" to "Last Years Highlights" 4.) drop "print your program" Can someone with appropriate access please do at least 1-2? Merry endyearfestivals, Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20051223/ba8a1582/attachment.htm From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Dec 23 12:11:00 2005 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:11:00 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] please update more of the webpage In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0512230135m5a72ce06i@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0512230135m5a72ce06i@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ABDB44.8050803@ita.chalmers.se> Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Now that 2005 is ending, I think it should be the time to make some > cosmetic changes to www.europython.org <http://www.europython.org> > > > 1.) change the <title> tag to Europython 2005 > 2.) change > > > 27-29 June 2005, > G?teborg, Sweden > > Europython is an annual conference for the Python and Zope > communities. It circulates between different sites in Europe. Having > started in Charleroi, Belgium, it is now in G?teborg, Sweden and will > move to CERN in Swizerland next year. Europython is a community > conference run by volunteers. > > to the appropriate time and space coordinates of 2006. > > 3.) change "highlights" to "Last Years Highlights" > 4.) drop "print your program" > > Can someone with appropriate access please do at least 1-2? > > Merry endyearfestivals, > > Harald Hi, I've done the changes you suggested. Mainly to avoid confusion with last year's conference. But is there going to be a new site soon? regards /JM From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Dec 23 13:49:38 2005 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:49:38 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] please update more of the webpage In-Reply-To: <43ABDB44.8050803@ita.chalmers.se> References: <7be3f35d0512230135m5a72ce06i@mail.gmail.com> <43ABDB44.8050803@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0512230449g4cfdbe7bq@mail.gmail.com> Jean-Marc, thank you very much for taking care! Just please revisit the <title> tag, on my browser it still has a title of EuroPython 2005 (and also do a smaller P on the run :) >I've done the changes you suggested. Mainly to avoid confusion with last > >year's conference. > yes, this confusion avoidance was primary subject. > But is there going to be a new site soon? Nobody knows so far. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20051223/ad798283/attachment.html From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Dec 23 13:58:37 2005 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:58:37 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] please update more of the webpage In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0512230449g4cfdbe7bq@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0512230135m5a72ce06i@mail.gmail.com> <43ABDB44.8050803@ita.chalmers.se> <7be3f35d0512230449g4cfdbe7bq@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43ABF47D.9070004@ita.chalmers.se> Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Jean-Marc, > > thank you very much for taking care! > > Just please revisit the <title> tag, on my browser it still has a > title of EuroPython 2005 (and also do a smaller P on the run :) > OK, now it says "Europython 2006" I was unsure whether there was a newer site or not. regards /JM From andrew at smart-knowhow.de Thu Dec 29 13:05:15 2005 From: andrew at smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:05:15 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] PBF & Europython Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEHNMEAA.andrew@smart-knowhow.de> Hi PBF-Members, anyone out there? What about PBF and the next Europython Conference? Are we going to have some activities there? Can someone please repair the www.python-in-business.org site? Kind Regards, Andrew Smart From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Thu Dec 29 13:26:31 2005 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:26:31 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] PBF & Europython In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEHNMEAA.andrew@smart-knowhow.de> References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEHNMEAA.andrew@smart-knowhow.de> Message-ID: <20051229122631.GB6518@crater.logilab.fr> On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 01:05:15PM +0100, Andrew Smart wrote: > Hi PBF-Members, Hello there. > Can someone please repair the www.python-in-business.org site? I wish I could find time to do that... but can not commit to it. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances