[EuroPython] Presentations online

Paul Everitt paul@zope.com
Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:47:21 -0400


For the record, I don't feel censored.  I'm glad Marc-Andre is stepping 
in to make a decision and bring something to conclusion.  I don't think 
arguing every single point all the way up to the actual day of the 
conference is a recipe for success.

There is a group of people that have participated in every single IRC 
chat and have done actual work to plan the conference.  You can call 
them Brezhnev.  I call them admirable.

There's even a group of three people acting as an executive committee 
that agreed to bear the burden of responsibility, and we all agreed that 
they'd get some authority.  You might have missed this, but it was all 
discussed on this list.

In order for things to actually **get done** we all have to concede some 
amount of control to the people actually doing the work.  Sometimes this 
means living with decisions we don't like.  We have to be mature enough 
as a group to let the decision-makers make decisions, without extreme 
claims of "censorship" when your position doesn't win.

If it is something truly critical, then keep arguing.  But whether we 
make presentations available before the conference or not isn't life 
threatening, IMO.

--Paul

Nicola Larosa wrote:
> Sorry for the flame, I'm not really in the organization, I just 
> translated the press release to Italian, and am paying to come to 
> Charleroi, but I'm feeling rebellious. :^)
> 
> 
>> To end this discussion:
> 
>  > ...
>  > Please, no more discussions about this.
> 
> Sorry, can't comply. *You* better avoid trying to censor anyone.
> 
> 
>> We have decided to make the pages only available to site managers.
> 
> 
> For the record, "We" being who?
> 
> 
> I made a count of opinions on the matter.
> 
> 
> The Soviet bureaucrats, "don't give away the goods too soon" 
> bean-counters are (in order of appearence):
> 
> M. A. "Breznev" Lemburg
> Dinu Gherman
> Godefroid Chapelle
> Joachim Schmitz
> 
> 
> The Free Software philosophers, "we do it for the people" face-to-face 
> cravers are:
> 
> Nicolas Chauvat
> Laura Creighton ("+1000"? "You lucky dog"? I like this gal! ;^) )
> Alex Martelli
> Nicola Larosa (you guessed it)
> 
> 
> *** LATEST NEWS: Dinu Gherman is going to the other side! ***
> 
> 
> The poor sod caught in the middle of all this is:
> 
> Tom Deprez
> 
> (By the way, Tom, I really appreciate all the work you're putting into 
> this.)
> 
> 
> So, it looks like there isn't all that consensus yet, right? Let's put 
> it more clearly: what makes you think you three are right, while at 
> least four people are wrong, and telling us to just shut up?!? Come on, 
> please!
> 
> 
> (Now, where the heck did I put that asbesto suite I bought for Python 
> conferences?)
> 
>