[Edu-sig] Question about certifying teachers

Santiago Basulto santiago at rmotr.com
Fri Jan 25 08:46:31 EST 2019


I'm against certificates as a money making machine (think Cisco). I'd be
great to provide a free (or very cheap) certificates that fulfill its duty
(endorse the knowledge and up-to-date status of the teacher) keeping it
open and accessible. One option I'm thinking is peer-reviewed certificates.
It could be a "cheap" alternative, with all the benefits of having real
eyes on a teacher's evaluation.

As a side note, we provide free training for teachers at RMOTR
<https://rmotr.com>. We haven't advertised it much yet, we're working on
the terms. But if anyone knows high school teachers that want to learn
Python please give them my email address.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:08 AM Jeff Elkner <jeff at elkner.net> wrote:

> Great discussion, and thanks for kicking it off, Dr. Chuck!
>
> To be "relevant" to teachers, whatever scheme you devise should fit easily
> into the re-certification process teachers go through to maintain their
> licenses to teach.  The problem in the US is that there are 50 different
> processes to deal with.
>
> If you do settle on something, I'd be glad to see how it maps to the
> re-certification process in Virginia.
>
> Jeff Elkner
> Arlington Public Schools
> Arlington, Virginia
>
> Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Friday, January 25, 2019 5:25 AM, Stephen Murphy <
> stephen.murphy91 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> This area is very relevant in Ireland at the moment with our new upper
> high school computer science subject being introduced.
>
> I was wondering would someone on this list like to write a short article
> on their experiences with the above topic for the Computer Science
> Teachers' Association of Ireland (CSTAI) monthly magazine?
>
> Your insights and advice would be greatly appreciated by the teachers here
> and might encourage them to uptake some CPD courses.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 6:49 AM Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> OpenBadges
>>
>> https://openbadges.org/get-started/issuing-badges/
>>
>> > Open Badges provide a flexible way to recognize learning wherever it
>> happens, in and out of formal education and the workplace. They can
>> represent any achievement from simple participation to evidence-backed
>> competency development.
>>
>> > By adopting the Open Badges Specification you are joining over 3,000
>> organizations across the world who believe in supporting a global
>> Specification that enables individuals to capture and share the richer
>> picture of who they are.
>>
>> edX supports Badgr (OpenBadges)
>>
>> - OpenBadges Backpack is now Badgr
>> - https://badgr.com
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-server (Django API)
>> - https://github.com/concentricsky/badgr-ui (Angular 2 UI)
>> -
>> https://edx.readthedocs.io/projects/edx-installing-configuring-and-running/en/latest/configuration/enable_badging.html
>> - https://github.com/edx/credentials
>>
>>
>> Blockcerts (W3C Verifiable Claims)
>>
>> - https://www.blockcerts.org/guide/roadmap.html
>>   - [ ] OpenBadges Verifiable Claims compatibility
>>
>> - https://github.com/w3c/verifiable-claims
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-data-model/
>>   - https://w3c.github.io/vc-use-cases/#education
>>
>>
>> ... https://gist.github.com/westurner/4345987bb29fca700f52163c339a270f
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Charles (fond memories from Google App Engine days... we met at a
>>> Pycon in Chicago years ago)...
>>>
>>> Issuing some proof of completion, in certificate form (an actual
>>> document with their name on it, could be PDF) helps your enrollees put
>>> something on their resume.  The other half of that equation is not a big
>>> name school or company, though that might help, so much as a detailed
>>> course outline and/or the actual course content, or both -- such that those
>>> following up on this credential get a sense of what it means.
>>>
>>> What did these students actually work through?  Were there projects?
>>> Quizzes.  Describing the program helps too (including with recruiting new
>>> enrollees).
>>>
>>> When O'Reilly School of Technology closed its doors, I was clear that
>>> the best way to support our alumni was to preserve a record of what we
>>> offered, so those advertising completing our courses could point to
>>> something objective, in terms of content covered.  OST listened and our
>>> content is still online to this day.
>>>
>>> Example pages:
>>>
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/programs.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/courses.html
>>> http://archive.oreilly.com/oreillyschool/courses/Python1/index.html
>>>
>>> We show our quizzes, but not our projects, not sure why at this point.
>>>
>>> Students had to finish all the projects, which were assessed by their
>>> human instructors.  We had no robo-grading whatsoever, not even for
>>> quizzes, as we wanted them to know they had a real human on the other end.
>>>
>>> Of course a lot of the code camp type websites don't provide actual
>>> instructors to sign off on work, as you know.  They may have students
>>> aseess each other (or not), ala Coursera, which, in combination with
>>> deadlines, means not everyone who starts, manages to finish.
>>>
>>> Attrition stats may or may not be relevant in your case.  If they got a
>>> credential for just showing up (attendance), that's of course not as
>>> impressive, so you do your students a favor by advertising the rigors of
>>> your offerings.
>>>
>>> Kirby
>>>
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