[Edu-sig] Suggested metrics for measuring our success

[Jeff Elkner]

Great, Sebastian!  I merged your pull request, and made a few additional changes to the license.

Since this is getting to be a nuts and bolts conversation, I believe good netiquette dictates we should now move it off list, so this will be my last post to the list on this topic.

Thanks!

Jeff


​Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!​

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On May 15, 2018 12:58 AM, Sebastian Silva <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:

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> 
> Jeff,
> 
> I managed to build the book by installing the requirements.txt and
> 
> examining them, I found the `runestone` command.
> 
> Imho this is the first thing that should be documented ;-) I'm making a PR.
> 
> Also, I did find the interactive parts, nice!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> On 14/05/18 23:22, Sebastian Silva wrote:
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> > Hi Jeff,
> > 
> > Thank you for clarifying the license. Now we can work together ;-)
> > 
> > I've cloned the repository and examined it. I didn't figure out how to
> > 
> > build it. Does it use Sphinx or have a server side?
> > 
> > Does it have interactive bits?
> > 
> > GNU FDL is the same license I've chosen for my book that I'm shaping.
> > 
> > But I'm writing in Spanish, my target topic is introductory Python in
> > 
> > the Browser (e.g. incl HTML and CSS).
> > 
> > My target users are rural kids with little or no Internet.
> > 
> > I have settled on using Tiddlywiki for my project as it affords some
> > 
> > pretty amazing extension points.
> > 
> > Since my main project is a Python editor for the web, I'm experimenting
> > 
> > in embedding it inside the Tiddlywiki for showing runnable examples.
> > 
> > This is all experimental.
> > 
> > For instance, here's an article with an embedded Jappy editor. The
> > 
> > included script is able to pull the code from the code sections of the
> > 
> > article in order to run it.
> > 
> > What work will you be doing on the book? Have you considered adding an
> > 
> > embedded interpreter for code examples?
> > 
> > In the past I've translated some books to Spanish. This might be a good
> > 
> > one to try a translation marathon.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Sebastian
> > 
> > On 14/05/18 10:44, Jeff Elkner wrote:
> > 
> > > Disregard the previous post. I just changed the intro page to:
> > > 
> > > http://www.openbookproject.net/books/StudentCSP/CSPrinTeasers/studentBook.html
> > > 
> > > so now the license contradiction is removed.
> > > 
> > > Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
> > > 
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> > > On May 14, 2018 11:05 AM, Jeff Elkner jeff at elkner.net wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I could really use some help with this, Sebastian. It is the authors at Georgia Tech who applied the two licenses, not me. I've been in touch with them by email. What would be the easiest thing that could be done to resolve the license contradiction? Perhaps I could apply the fix to my version and then suggest to them they do likewise?
> > > > 
> > > > Jeff
> > > > 
> > > > Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
> > > > 
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> > > > On May 14, 2018 10:49 AM, Sebastian Silva sebastian at fuentelibre.org wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for pointing us to this resource. Very nice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am writing introductory materials and this is a great reference!
> > > > > 
> > > > > While our target audiences are completely different, the structure and
> > > > > 
> > > > > ideas are very welcome. I will make a section with references :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please be aware of a license contradiction:
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP/blob/master/_sources/CSPrinTeasers/studentBook.rst
> > > > > 
> > > > > (Proprietary)
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP/blob/master/LICENSE.txt  (GNU FDL)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I consider Open Educational Resources to be the only sustainable option
> > > > > 
> > > > > for a just society - please clarify the license.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sebastian
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 12/05/18 15:01, Jeff Elkner wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > btw.  I'll be sprinting on a Remix of the book, CS Principles: Big
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ideas in Programming on Monday.  I'm remixing to make the text more
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > compatible with Python 3, and to respond to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > student requests for clarification of exercise instructions, etc.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm hosting the remix on the Open Book Project:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.openbookproject.net/books/StudentCSP/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The git repo is here:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://gitlab.com/jelkner/StudentCSP
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > 
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