[Edu-sig] Python Education Summit

Thu Jan 8 18:51:05 CET 2015

A coup?  If the prize for this coup is the loss of free time that will
come from this volunteer effort, I don't think we have to worry too
much about stepping on anyone's toes ;-)

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kirby:
>
> you are right... and I am not talking about a coup.
>
> I am saying that I sent a request to the list owner asking for help so that
> my messages can get to the list.
>
> I got no response...
>
> the follow-on seems to be:
> * identify if the email address for the owner is still active
> * identify if the owner is still interested/able to do the job
> * if no... either correct the address OR
> * find a new owner (or better new owners) so that the list is maintained...
>
> This morning, I also reached out to the maintainers of the mailing list
> system as a whole:
> mailman at python.org
> postmaster at python.org
>
> to see if anyone can troubleshoot why my messages are not getting through.
>
> right now, checking the edu-sig archive, everyone's in this thread (you,
> jeff, andre, etc) are getting through. I am the only one that isn't making
> it... sigh.
>
> chalmer
>
>
>
>
> Chalmer Lowe, MS
>
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> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:29 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Off hand, I'm not taking "not hearing from the listowner" as a reason to
>> change ownership.
>>
>> Hypothetically, the listowner was appointed by the BDFL sometime in the
>> murky past.  I long ago accepted life in a benevolent dictatorship.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If we aren't hearing from the list owner, I would be happy to take that
>>> ... If we can get the over arching maillist admins to make that change, I am
>>> happy to help. (After making a thorough effort to reach out to Wilson
>>> directly, of course!)
>>>
>>> Chalmer
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2015 7:15 AM, "kirby urner" <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks good.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we've ever heard from listowner Wilson on this list.  We
>>>> do get good spam filtering I think.
>>>>
>>>> I've put in a request to be at the upcoming Pycon but I don't think it's
>>>> been approved.  I was unable to attend last year.
>>>>
>>>> Edu-wise my focus believe or not has been the Python community in
>>>> Bangalore, actually IT more generally, but women more specifically.
>>>>
>>>> Long story on math-teach.  I try not to duplicate too much of what I
>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>> Kirby
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and
>>>>> ownership?   I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig page
>>>>> ... and perhaps I should have.
>>>>>
>>>>> André
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> SNIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to
>>>>>> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full
>>>>>> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached out
>>>>>> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig distro
>>>>>> for assistance in late December, but got NO response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering,
>>>>>> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign up',
>>>>>> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple test
>>>>>> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I
>>>>>> see that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to
>>>>>> assist and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at
>>>>>> least until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most grateful
>>>>>> for the help...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <start>---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel
>>>>>> free to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the
>>>>>> invite-only caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to
>>>>>> sign up and tell your friends.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Pycon Description of the Summit:
>>>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator
>>>>>> Site
>>>>>> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html
>>>>>> <end>---------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Edu-sig mailing list
>>>>> Edu-sig at python.org
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
> Chalmer Lowe, MS
>
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> Level 1
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Jeff Elkner <jeff at elkner.net> wrote:
>>
>> I just emailed Tim Wilson as well.  I don't expect a response (since
>> Andre didn't get one), but I wanted to cover that base before making
>> further inquiries.  I am of the opinion that edu-sig could be a
>> valuable resource for us, and we ought to do what we can to bring it
>> back on-line.
>>
>> I'm going to email the PSF list to ask who I can contact about perhaps
>> taking over from Tim.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.roberge at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ...
>> >
>> > Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below.
>> >
>> > @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and
>> > ownership?   I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig
>> > page
>> > ... and perhaps I should have.
>> >
>> > André
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.lowe at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > SNIP
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to
>> >> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming.
>> >>
>> >> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full
>> >> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached
>> >> out
>> >> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig
>> >> distro
>> >> for assistance in late December, but got NO response.
>> >>
>> >> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering,
>> >> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign
>> >> up',
>> >> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple
>> >> test
>> >> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail.
>> >>
>> >> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I
>> >> see
>> >> that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to
>> >> assist
>> >> and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at least
>> >> until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most grateful
>> >> for
>> >> the help...
>> >>
>> >> <start>---------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel
>> >> free
>> >> to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the
>> >> invite-only
>> >> caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to sign up
>> >> and
>> >> tell your friends.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627
>> >>
>> >> The Pycon Description of the Summit:
>> >> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/
>> >>
>> >> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator Site
>> >> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44
>> >>
>> >> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out:
>> >>
>> >> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html
>> >> <end>---------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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