[Edu-sig] Recommendation for editor+console or IDE for teaching beginners

[Andrew Harrington]

I've taught online to newbies four times using my Hands-on Tutorial,
http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/
videos that are linked to it, and screen sharing for individual help.  My
setup has always been Idle, and a significant fraction of my students have
Macs.  None of my students were 12 years old - mostly 18.  a number of my
students have worked remotely from each other in pairs, with screen sharing
and audio.

Andy

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:48 PM, calcpage <calcpage at aol.com.dmarc.invalid>
wrote:

> All you need is nano or Pico or gedit or ...
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Charles Cossé <ccosse at gmail.com>
> Date: 12/10/2014 10:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Fernando Salamero <fsalamero at gmail.com>
> Cc: edu-sig at python.org
> Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Recommendation for editor+console or IDE for
> teaching beginners
>
> Hi, I've been programming in python for 15 years now, always and only with
> NEdit.  It has syntax-highlighting, tabs and enhanced whitespace
> toggleability ... all you need, and nothing else.  It's part of every Linux
> distro that I'm aware of.  Developed at Fermilab!!
>
> Good luck,
> Charles Cosse
> www.asymptopia.org
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Fernando Salamero <fsalamero at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I like (so my students) the amazing Ninja-IDE, with explicit PEP8 and
>> python 3 tips. Version 3 is coming. Open source, programmed in python for
>> python.
>>
>> http://ninja-ide.org/
>>
>>
>>
>> El 10/12/2014, a las 23:21, Vernon D. Cole <vernondcole at gmail.com>
>> escribió:
>>
>> I second the suggestion to use PyCharm.  I have been using it
>> commercially (and almost exclusively) for two years.  The free version is
>> very capable for any normal desktop projects, and the professional version
>> is free for educational institutions or students. If has a few bad habits
>> (mostly inherited from the fact that it is written in Java) but the many
>> good things about it far outweigh them.  Built-in support for hard to learn
>> but easy to use features like Python virtual environments and pip downloads
>> makes it a real winner. The integrated debugger is quite good, and it
>> operates almost identically in both Windows and Linux.
>>
>> Similarly, I have been using git (and GitHub) for the same two years.
>> GitHub is great, and almost makes up for the terrible faults in git.
>> Nevertheless, I would highly recommend starting students out using
>> Bitbucket and Mercurial, for the same reasons that you are teaching Python
>> rather than C++. It is so much easier to learn. They can transfer learning
>> to Git if and when they are forced to. Both git and hg are well supported
>> by PyCharm.
>>
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Dr. Andrew N. Harrington
  Computer Science Department
  Graduate Program Director gpd at cs.luc.edu
  Loyola University Chicago
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