[Edu-sig] SIGCSE 2006 - Special Session on Teaching with Python
Arthur
ajsiegel at optonline.net
Mon Feb 27 15:34:13 CET 2006
kirby urner wrote:
> On 2/26/06, *Brad Miller* <bmiller at luther.edu
> <mailto:bmiller at luther.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> Data structures and algorithms may not be exciting (for Kay), but
> they are as fundamental to computing as cells are to biology.
>
>
>
> I think the goal is to get into these quickly and painlessly (Python
> helps!) but not make 'em the "be all end all" i.e. these are tools,
> means to an end, but the object is to get work done on some project of
> immediate import and interest. That's unlikely to be either data
> structures or algorithms UNLESS you're a CS major or other kind of
> math nerd. Nothing wrong with that, but we're not prejudiced. We're
> *happy* to equip students with a lot of CS savvy and send them on
> their merry way: to be graphic designers, to be cartoonists, to be
> vampire slayers or what have you.
>
Well we are talking about CS courses. So I hear you reluctantly
agreeing that there this it is appropriately core curricula. The first
2 words of the title of Brad's book is 'Problem Solving' - implying a
"means to an ends". What else?
Kay? You admire him. I judge his public persona harshly. He is
paraphrases by an admirer:
""nothing exciting about computing today has to do with data structures
and algorithms"""
I don't think there is *nothing* to that statement. But his way is to
overstate things, not state things. I don't think that is appropriate
for someone claiming to represent the high order of any branch of
science - as he so claims.
Art
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