[Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E

[Arthur]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Allison [mailto:chuck at freshsources.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 6:57 PM
> To: Arthur
> Cc: 'Kirby Urner'; edu-sig at python.org
> Subject: Re[2]: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E
> 
> Hello Arthur,
> 
> Boy this is getting thick! Confident humility is quite attainable.
> 

If I attained it, how hard can it be?  Humble, right? 
> 
> (Please forgive the top-post. And being new here, let me
> self-introduce: I'm a college CS professor (with 20 years development
> experience) trying to get Python in our curriculum (with some
> success), a colleague of and co-author with Bruce Eckel, and attended
> my first PyCon last month, at his invitation).
> 
> Perhaps we can switch for a moment to the task of trying to squeeze
> Python into an already crowded curriculum to teach CS1. Any ideas
> would be appreciated. My main obstacle is to get consensus from the
> rest of the faculty (they don't know Python).

Intuitional answer ...

Sneak it in through a course focusing on algorithms.

Maybe ala David Eppstein:

http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/teach.html

Art

> 
> --
> Best regards,
>  Chuck Allison
> 
> Sunday, April 17, 2005, 3:04:17 PM, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Arthur [mailto:ajsiegel at optonline.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 4:29 PM
> >> To: 'Arthur'; 'Kirby Urner'; edu-sig at python.org
> >> Subject: RE: [Edu-sig] re: Beyond CP4E
> >>
> >> > From: Arthur [mailto:ajsiegel at optonline.net]
> >> > To: 'Kirby Urner'; 'Arthur'; edu-sig at python.org
> >> Confidence is easy, if you ignore enough of what's around you.
> >>
> >> I have no confidence in anything I am saying. Or in PyGeo, for that
> >> matter.
> >>
> >> Too smart for that.
> 
> A> But in truth I have more confidence in what I am saying that what I
> hear
> A> Kirby and many others saying, only because they sound to me too
> confident in
> A> what they are saying.
> 
> A> And I am only confident that there is no sound basis for this kind of
> A> confidence.
> 
> A> But because since I am confident - at least this far -  we can be sure
> that
> A> I am wrong, as well.
> 
> A> Non-linear dynamics in action.
> 
> A> Art
> 
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