[Cython] Cython paper in Computing in Science & Engineering

Stefan Behnel stefan_ml at behnel.de
Thu Apr 7 10:00:41 CEST 2011


Dag Sverre Seljebotn, 07.04.2011 07:54:
> On 04/07/2011 02:12 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Zak Stone wrote:
>>>>> Researchers: Please consider citing this paper if Cython helps your
>>>>> research in non-trivial ways.
>>>> Is this the canonical citation reference for Cython now? If so, can
>>>> this be
>>>> mentioned on the Cython webpage somewhere that is prominent enough to be
>>>> found?
>>> On a related note, would it be possible to post a preprint somewhere
>>> that isn't behind a paywall? If that's allowed, I would be delighted
>>> to share the preprint with friends to introduce them to Cython.
>> Yes, I think we can post the pre-print, though I'm opposed to making
>> this the "canonical citation" just because of this paywall.
>
> Is this for ideological or practical reasons?

Both.


> This is probably the only paper in a "real" journal for some time, and
> citations are going to boost the authors' citation counts. Nobody would
> actually look up the citation anyway simply to learn about Cython, they'd
> just Google it.

Depends on the reference. If it's just cited as "you know, Cython", people 
will either look for "Cython" directly and be happy, or they may look up 
the paper, see that it's paid, and keep searching, either for the paper or 
for the project. If it's cited as "in that paper, you can read about doing 
X with Cython", then people will try even harder to get at the paper. In 
either case, chances are that they need to invest more time because of the 
reference, compared to a plain link in a footnote. So citing this article 
is likely to be an inconvenience for interested readers of papers that cite it.


> So unless we're trying to hide the existence of the paper,
> I think we should make it the default citation until there's something better.

We should then at least get a PDF preprint version ready that contains the 
relevant metadata and put the exact same file up on everyone's homepage (so 
that search engines don't get confused and can simply hash-compare them).


> Next time we've got anything to share in a paper, let's do it here:
>
> http://www.openresearchcomputation.com/

Looks good to me (even though PyCon 2011 isn't really an "upcoming 
conference" ;).


> Posting the pre-print is a matter of making the necesarry references within
> it and formatting it.
>
> http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?jrule=ISSN&search=1521-9615
> <http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?jrule=ISSN&search=1521-9615>
>
> I'll fix it and post a link later today.

Great, thanks!

Stefan


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