From tshrinivasan at gmail.com Thu Aug 3 01:39:15 2017 From: tshrinivasan at gmail.com (Shrinivasan T) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 11:09:15 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] How to make image to SVG? Message-ID: I saw a site the can generate handwritten styled fonts with our own handwritten letters. We have to print a form, write, scan and upload. they will generate the ttf files. http://www.yourfonts.com/ http://www.yourfonts.com/print.html Thinking of doing the same for tamil with python. How to recognize the scanned page with handwritten tamil letters? is it possible to make svg files with same shape from a scanned page with python? Once we get the svg files, we can make as ttf files. Share your thoughts. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get Free Tamil Ebooks for Android, iOS, Kindle, Computer : http://FreeTamilEbooks.com From vnbang2003 at gmail.com Sat Aug 5 04:37:53 2017 From: vnbang2003 at gmail.com (vijay kumar) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:07:53 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [X-Post] PythonExpress challenges Message-ID: Hi All, As we discussed couple of months ago[0], PythonExpress project requires funding to take care of certain things. a) Keeping the tutor motivated and encouraged to conduct multiple workshops seems to be tough. Even though we take care of travel and accommodation with or without the help of colleges, we find short of tutors some times. IMO, we should provide a small token amount to tutors to show appreciation. b) we should think of an option to provide college students certificates as a workshop without certificates is not welcomed as much by all colleges and students. I think that this can be resolved in 2 ways. 1. Request college to pay us if they need certificates - hard copy. 2. Generate soft copies of certificate (PDF) and share it with students once college uploads the student details. Also, c) Conducting Intermediate level workshop for the students who has taken the the beginners level since we are not able to find tutors. Kindly let us know your thoughts on the same. [0] : http://lists.pssi.org.in/pipermail/pythonexpress/2017- April/000182.html -- Thanks, Vijay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > I saw a site the can generate handwritten styled fonts with our own > handwritten letters. > > We have to print a form, write, scan and upload. > they will generate the ttf files. > > http://www.yourfonts.com/ > http://www.yourfonts.com/print.html > > Thinking of doing the same for tamil with python. > > How to recognize the scanned page with handwritten tamil letters? > > is it possible to make svg files with same shape from a scanned page > with python? > > Once we get the svg files, we can make as ttf files. > > Share your thoughts. > > -- > Regards, > T.Shrinivasan > > > My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com > Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com > > Get Free Tamil Ebooks for Android, iOS, Kindle, Computer : > http://FreeTamilEbooks.com > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > -- Karthikeyan A K -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aravindhank1994 at gmail.com Mon Aug 7 10:23:10 2017 From: aravindhank1994 at gmail.com (Aravindhan K) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 19:53:10 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] How to make image to SVG? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, My thoughts on the matter 1) Use OpenCV or NumPy to do adaptive thresholding over the scanned image . 2) Create image for each individual character, from scanned image. 3) Feed these individual images to bitmap to vector convertors such as http://potrace.sourceforge.net. With some effort we may even able to write a python wrapper too. Thanks & Regards, Aravindhan K On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Karthikeyan A K <77minds at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Srini, > > Why not install inkscape and try to use some command line commands it > provides, try calling it from python. I am not sure weather it provides the > exact conversion commands you are looking for. > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 11:09 AM, Shrinivasan T > wrote: > >> I saw a site the can generate handwritten styled fonts with our own >> handwritten letters. >> >> We have to print a form, write, scan and upload. >> they will generate the ttf files. >> >> http://www.yourfonts.com/ >> http://www.yourfonts.com/print.html >> >> Thinking of doing the same for tamil with python. >> >> How to recognize the scanned page with handwritten tamil letters? >> >> is it possible to make svg files with same shape from a scanned page >> with python? >> >> Once we get the svg files, we can make as ttf files. >> >> Share your thoughts. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> T.Shrinivasan >> >> >> My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com >> Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : >> http://kaniyam.com >> >> Get Free Tamil Ebooks for Android, iOS, Kindle, Computer : >> http://FreeTamilEbooks.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Chennaipy mailing list >> Chennaipy at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy >> > > > > -- > Karthikeyan A K > > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 3) Feed these individual images to bitmap to vector convertors such as http://potrace.sourceforge.net. > With some effort we may even able to write a python wrapper too. > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > Thanks. on exploring potrace, got this link http://scruss.com/blog/2010/05/09/creating-a-truetype-font-from-your-handwriting-with-your-scanner-your-printer-and-fontforge/ Will try to adapt this for tamil. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free E-Magazine on Free Open Source Software in Tamil : http://kaniyam.com Get Free Tamil Ebooks for Android, iOS, Kindle, Computer : http://FreeTamilEbooks.com From vijaykumar at bravegnu.org Thu Aug 10 11:37:55 2017 From: vijaykumar at bravegnu.org (Vijay Kumar) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 21:07:55 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] Talks for the Next Meetup Message-ID: <4224cb43856e72ce7edc1ac8aa6a41fa.squirrel@gator3315.hostgator.com> Hi Everyone, The next meetup is on the 26th of this month. If you are interested in doing a talk (20 min duration), please reply with your talk title and talk description. Regards, Vijay From kskrishnasangeeth at gmail.com Sat Aug 12 01:32:23 2017 From: kskrishnasangeeth at gmail.com (Krishna Sangeeth KS) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 11:02:23 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] Talks for the Next Meetup In-Reply-To: <4224cb43856e72ce7edc1ac8aa6a41fa.squirrel@gator3315.hostgator.com> References: <4224cb43856e72ce7edc1ac8aa6a41fa.squirrel@gator3315.hostgator.com> Message-ID: Hi Vijay, I wish to give the below talk. Title : "Bringing Vangogh back" Description : We all love photos. We love paintings too . What if we can apply the texture of famous paintings such as "Starry Night" to our every day photos to give them an enchanting look and feel? Thanks, Krishna Sangeeth With Regards Krishna Sangeeth K.S ---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on" On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Vijay Kumar wrote: > Hi Everyone, > The next meetup is on the 26th of this month. If you are interested in > doing a talk (20 min duration), please reply with your talk title and talk > description. > > Regards, > Vijay > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have any queries , please reach out to us at [5] or write to our mailing list[6] Links : [1] https://pyconfhyd.talkfunnel.com/2017/ [2] http://pyconf.hydpy.org/ [3] https://www.facebook.com/HydPy/ [4] https://twitter.com/hydPython [5] contact at hydpy.org [6] hydpy at python.org Thanks & Regards Ram Sagar Mourya From igauravsehrawat at gmail.com Sun Aug 13 05:42:34 2017 From: igauravsehrawat at gmail.com (Gaurav Sehrawat) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 09:42:34 +0000 Subject: [Chennaipy] Talks for the Next Meetup In-Reply-To: References: <4224cb43856e72ce7edc1ac8aa6a41fa.squirrel@gator3315.hostgator.com> Message-ID: > > Title : "Bringing Vangogh back" > > Description : We all love photos. We love paintings too . What if we can > apply the texture of famous paintings such as "Starry Night" to our every > day photos to give them an enchanting look and feel? > Looking forward to monthly dose of AI/ML happenings. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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He introduced us to the problem of Fox-hen-grain. You can read about the same here: https://sureshvv.wordpress.com/2017/06/10/solving-the- fox-hen-grain-puzzle-using-hypothesis/ He also spoke about the *Hypotheis package's* ability to break the code and test the code's edge and corner cases. *Naren on Coding standards* He primarily emphasized on good coding standards and spoke about some details related to variables, functions, loop/indentation and error handling. Some salient points include : 1) Dont use the "temp" variable --> use meaningful variable names 2) Ensure that a function should have only one responsibility 3)Restrict loop nesting to maximum 3 levels. His talk is available at : http://www.dudewho.codes/assets/pdfs/writeCodeForHumans.pdf *Talk by people from Enability team:* ?Enability Foundation for Rehabilitation? is a not for profit (Section 8) company that focuses on delivering assistive technology solutions to the marginalized and disadvantaged sections of society You can get more details about what they do here: http://enability.in/#/ They were looking out for programmers/analysts both part-time and full time to bring their initiatives to fruition. *Networking tea break* *NLP, Chatbox talk by Prabhakaran Kumaresshan* Prabhakaran is an Machine learning engineer working in TCS. He spoke about chatbots and how to build chatbots using slack. Currently it is messaging apps are being used more than social networks. The talk was interactive and discussion were on the lines of how much data google has about all of us and how it is being used. Their prediction algos are very sophisticated that there progress in areas like deep learning are much ahead of others. His talk is available at: https://github.com/nixphix/meetup-chennaipy-jul2017-slackbot-stanfordnlp *Lighning talks* spacy.io - Krishna Sangeeth introduced the audience to this site that talks about NLP. People working/interested in this may want to take a look at this. Gaurav spoke about *Documentation Vs Stack overflow* Good practise to look at documentation instead of heading to stack over flow at the first step itself. Showed a reference to a good doc site for reference : http://devdocs.io/ Shrayas Extended Gaurav?s talk Arun ram from Infosys : Spoke about Haskell testing http://book.realworldhaskell.org/read/testing-and-quality-assurance.html *Group Photo* The session ended with a group photo, as usual. Rgds, Ashok -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it still the same? So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? I'm most interested in hearing the reasons for your choice. Eloquent answers, angry rants, simple statements; all are welcome! Don't hold back! I know this is the Python mailing list but you don't have give Python related answers (You can if you want to though. Nobody's forcing you :) ) (Also, if someone can give me an answer for Java, that'd be great. I need something to tell my friend). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sakthirengaraj at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 07:17:31 2017 From: sakthirengaraj at gmail.com (Rengaraj D) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:47:31 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On 18 August 2017 at 16:17, Subil A wrote: > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > still the same? > > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > I'm most interested in hearing the reasons for your choice. Eloquent > answers, angry rants, simple statements; all are welcome! Don't hold back! > > I know this is the Python mailing list but you don't have give Python > related answers (You can if you want to though. Nobody's forcing you :) ) > Ask your friend to read this Q&A he will decide what he want to do. https://www.quora.com/profile/Balajee-Seshadri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shrayasr at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 07:31:54 2017 From: shrayasr at gmail.com (Shrayas rajagopal) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:01:54 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Subil, On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Subil A wrote: > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > still the same? > ?Java still is relevant in this time. The JVM is an *insanely* robust virtual machine that is very performant. Its ability to do `java -jar ` stands unrivaled?. A prime area where Java stands tall is Android development. I'm sure we all know that the future is moving towards everything on the mobile -- and Android is leading the rat race to get there. Kotlin is making a foray into this area, sure; but Java is still the leader. Another thing to not forget is the ecosystem around this language. The java ecosystem is extremely mature with a large number of libraries. Be it embedded systems, web development or machine learning you can rest assured that Java has you covered. So my answer is: YES. It is very much the same and I don't see it fading out anytime soon. > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > - Web development: - Backends: Python, Ruby, Javascript, Java, C# - Frontend: Javascript (with Angular, React et al) - Data Sciences: - Python, Python, Python ?[...] I look forward to everyone else's input too. Great question, Subil! Regards, Shrayas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 08:59:13 2017 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:29:13 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi, --- On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Subil A wrote: | considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the | language. \-- You do not pick a programming language because it has scope! You pick a programming language because it helps you to solve a problem for the domain that it was designed for. "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." Choose the right tool to solve the right problem. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From jaiimmortal at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 09:32:16 2017 From: jaiimmortal at gmail.com (Jaivarsan Bala) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:32:16 +0000 Subject: [Chennaipy] Chennaipy Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well I'm a college student as well, but I'm investing myself in python. Not just because of it's simplicity, but it's friendly and you know about the community. I'd advice anyone to follow the trend to go and invest themselves in either JavaScript or Python. I don't have the article but, Harvard replaced it's introductory course to programming which was in Java to JavaScript, and this change is appreciated among the developers community. Java is still used for maintenance of old code nowadays, but at the rate JS and Python are heading... The future holds to the people who conquer it. On Fri 18 Aug, 2017, 17:03 , wrote: > Send Chennaipy mailing list submissions to > chennaipy at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > chennaipy-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > chennaipy-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Chennaipy digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in > Chennai's IT industry (Subil A) > 2. Re: [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in > Chennai's IT industry (Rengaraj D) > 3. Re: [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in > Chennai's IT industry (Shrayas rajagopal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:17:17 +0530 > From: Subil A > To: Chennai Python User Group Mailing List > Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages > in Chennai's IT industry > Message-ID: > ixE3KXSvg9Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > still the same? > > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > I'm most interested in hearing the reasons for your choice. Eloquent > answers, angry rants, simple statements; all are welcome! Don't hold back! > > I know this is the Python mailing list but you don't have give Python > related answers (You can if you want to though. Nobody's forcing you :) ) > > (Also, if someone can give me an answer for Java, that'd be great. I need > something to tell my friend). > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chennaipy/attachments/20170818/67688795/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:47:31 +0530 > From: Rengaraj D > To: Chennai Python User Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming > languages in Chennai's IT industry > Message-ID: > < > CANgAyd6aen4vWHhyAaGOBkDHW0-gjwG_Qtz9nOqy9JVqQN4s3w at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 18 August 2017 at 16:17, Subil A wrote: > > > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > > still the same? > > > > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > > > I'm most interested in hearing the reasons for your choice. Eloquent > > answers, angry rants, simple statements; all are welcome! Don't hold > back! > > > > I know this is the Python mailing list but you don't have give Python > > related answers (You can if you want to though. Nobody's forcing you :) ) > > > > Ask your friend to read this Q&A he will decide what he want to do. > https://www.quora.com/profile/Balajee-Seshadri > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chennaipy/attachments/20170818/49bf1ac0/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:01:54 +0530 > From: Shrayas rajagopal > To: Chennai Python User Group Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming > languages in Chennai's IT industry > Message-ID: > < > CAEkH89OAddKSmNbf+qPu+2vt3TyCUfw08w0b+4Ar1VEXZZjScA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Subil, > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Subil A wrote: > > > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > > still the same? > > > ?Java still is relevant in this time. The JVM is an *insanely* robust > virtual machine that is very performant. Its ability to do `java -jar > ` stands unrivaled?. > > A prime area where Java stands tall is Android development. I'm sure we all > know that the future is moving towards everything on the mobile -- and > Android is leading the rat race to get there. Kotlin is making a foray into > this area, sure; but Java is still the leader. > > Another thing to not forget is the ecosystem around this language. The java > ecosystem is extremely mature with a large number of libraries. Be it > embedded systems, web development or machine learning you can rest assured > that Java has you covered. > > So my answer is: YES. It is very much the same and I don't see it fading > out anytime soon. > > > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > > - Web development: > - Backends: Python, Ruby, Javascript, Java, C# > - Frontend: Javascript (with Angular, React et al) > - Data Sciences: > - Python, Python, Python > > ?[...] > > I look forward to everyone else's input too. > > Great question, Subil! > > Regards, > Shrayas > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/chennaipy/attachments/20170818/6893d67f/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Chennaipy Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 > **************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <432a8699-999a-05be-08d4-b1c816b490a1@zilogic.com> On Friday 18 August 2017 04:17 PM, Subil A wrote: > > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for > the language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless > college student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced > bread but is it still the same? > From my personal experience, learning Java, has helped me become a better programmer. Check this article titled "Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years" by Peter Norvig http://norvig.com/21-days.html Regards, Vijay From mag.1984 at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 11:56:06 2017 From: mag.1984 at gmail.com (Magesh Dhasayyan) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 21:26:06 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: short answer: yes java is still relevant. go for it, but it's important to learn more concepts around it, not just java. long answer: if the aim is to become a good programmer, i would advise a different approach. there are certain core concepts that transcend programming languages. most of the top companies just look for solid understanding of these core concepts especially when hiring a fresher, irrespective of programming language expertise. programming language knowledge is also tested, but it doesn't matter which language. if the java course that you friend has in mind is just about java and its frameworks and object oriented programming, it's only a small part of what is essential to a programmer. also one other thing to keep in mind, is not to get confined into a certain way of thinking because of early exposure to specialized programming languages. most of what's written on this page is also relevant https://www.metaltoad.com/blog/myth-specialized-programmer hope that helps. -magesh On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Subil A wrote: > A friend of mine in college from the ECE department told me he was > considering joining a Java course and asked me if there was scope for the > language. I didn't know how to answer that as I'm a clueless college > student myself. Java was once the best thing since sliced bread but is it > still the same? > > So, fellow pythonistas in the industry, my question is: > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > I'm most interested in hearing the reasons for your choice. Eloquent > answers, angry rants, simple statements; all are welcome! Don't hold back! > > I know this is the Python mailing list but you don't have give Python > related answers (You can if you want to though. Nobody's forcing you :) ) > > (Also, if someone can give me an answer for Java, that'd be great. I need > something to tell my friend). > > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From igauravsehrawat at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 12:46:00 2017 From: igauravsehrawat at gmail.com (Gaurav Sehrawat) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:46:00 +0000 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Not going to reply on the language war. But offline "Java course" will be concern for me, I have seen courses whose aim to just give you certificate, so see what industry is expecting you(attend Java meetups etc). Learning the right way is the key. Do it for any language you pick, first choose your interest then tools. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From igauravsehrawat at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 12:49:25 2017 From: igauravsehrawat at gmail.com (Gaurav Sehrawat) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:49:25 +0000 Subject: [Chennaipy] Minutes of July 22, ChennaiPy meetup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mesmerizing opening para, I am gonna steal it for my blog. :) Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From subil1407 at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 13:00:59 2017 From: subil1407 at gmail.com (Subil A) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:30:59 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Thank you all for the top notch Java answers. I got more answers than I expected from a community that shuns curly braces ;). I'll be sure to share them. But do consider answering this part of the question, about the situation in Chennai's IT industry in general, not just Java: > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? You don't even need to talk about scope. Talk about what you've seen used and how they're being used. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From subil1407 at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 13:03:57 2017 From: subil1407 at gmail.com (Subil A) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:33:57 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Also, just to clarify, I'm not desperately searching for the One True Language or One True Framework or anything like that. I'm just genuinely curious to hear about everyone's personal experiences in this regard. On 18 Aug 2017 10:30 pm, "Subil A" wrote: > Thank you all for the top notch Java answers. I got more answers than I > expected from a community that shuns curly braces ;). I'll be sure to share > them. > > But do consider answering this part of the question, about the situation > in Chennai's IT industry in general, not just Java: > > > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's IT > industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? > > You don't even need to talk about scope. Talk about what you've seen used > and how they're being used. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yackoa at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 14:25:52 2017 From: yackoa at gmail.com (Yacko Abrams) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 23:55:52 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: I have worked in both languages during my career . What i feel is that that both have tremendous scope in IT. Regardless of what you choose be sure to know why your code works the way it's intented to, rather than making it work the way you intent to. (I hope i didn't confuse you with the last sentence) On 18 Aug 2017 10:34 pm, "Subil A" wrote: > Also, just to clarify, I'm not desperately searching for the One True > Language or One True Framework or anything like that. I'm just genuinely > curious to hear about everyone's personal experiences in this regard. > On 18 Aug 2017 10:30 pm, "Subil A" wrote: > >> Thank you all for the top notch Java answers. I got more answers than I >> expected from a community that shuns curly braces ;). I'll be sure to share >> them. >> >> But do consider answering this part of the question, about the situation >> in Chennai's IT industry in general, not just Java: >> >> > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's >> IT industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? >> >> You don't even need to talk about scope. Talk about what you've seen used >> and how they're being used. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gashok2 at gmail.com Sat Aug 19 01:32:35 2017 From: gashok2 at gmail.com (Ashok Govindarajan) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 11:02:35 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Dear All, Over the last 10 to 12 years, i have worked across C, C++, Assembly, and Matlab. This involved working in Chennai and Bangalore and building embedded system solutions primarily for the telecom domain. Based on the above context, developing a basic interest in understanding the differences between functional programming paradigm vs OO Paradigm, when is hand-coding assembly language superior in comparison to cross-compiled C code, usefulness of a simulation package like Matlab and how far can it go when you have to debug real-time issues in the field would be certain areas to explore and have some clarity in them. I started with C as my first language - as that was the langauge used in my first job and it was in embedded systems domain and then I moved on to learning other things as and when needed. During the same time i also developed a feel for algorithms, data structures, static analysis tool and tools like profiling etc that gave you a picture about the run-time nature of your code. In the Chennai context, you may want to look at Atmel, Jasmine Infotech, NEC, Microchip, Caterpillar, Qualcomm, Visteon as potential places for recruitment , that may have a need with the above programming knowledge experience/skill set. Rgds, Ashok On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Yacko Abrams wrote: > I have worked in both languages during my career . What i feel is that > that both have tremendous scope in IT. > > Regardless of what you choose be sure to know why your code works the way > it's intented to, rather than making it work the way you intent to. (I hope > i didn't confuse you with the last sentence) > > > On 18 Aug 2017 10:34 pm, "Subil A" wrote: > >> Also, just to clarify, I'm not desperately searching for the One True >> Language or One True Framework or anything like that. I'm just genuinely >> curious to hear about everyone's personal experiences in this regard. >> On 18 Aug 2017 10:30 pm, "Subil A" wrote: >> >>> Thank you all for the top notch Java answers. I got more answers than I >>> expected from a community that shuns curly braces ;). I'll be sure to share >>> them. >>> >>> But do consider answering this part of the question, about the situation >>> in Chennai's IT industry in general, not just Java: >>> >>> > Which languages/technologies, in your opinion, has scope in Chennai's >>> IT industry today? And in what niches (like embedded, medical and so on)? >>> >>> You don't even need to talk about scope. Talk about what you've seen >>> used and how they're being used. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chennaipy mailing list >> Chennaipy at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Chennaipy mailing list > Chennaipy at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/chennaipy > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vigneshstack at gmail.com Mon Aug 21 03:42:19 2017 From: vigneshstack at gmail.com (Vignesh Stack) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 13:12:19 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [PythonExpress] Call for Volunteers Message-ID: Hi All, As every year, This year we will be celebrating September 8th - October 8th, 2017 as PythonMonth to conduct Python and related workshops in various parts of India. We are looking for volunteers to help us from connecting to colleges till conducting workshops. If you are interested to be a part of PythonMonth, please do register yourselves at https://pythonexpress.in/ This is a great opportunity to give back to the community. More details on link [0] Upcoming workshop [1] Tutor can share preferred date by filling form [2] Looking forward to more helping hands. Let us work towards this great initiative [0]: http://blog.pythonexpress.in/posts/python-month-2017/ [1]: https://pythonexpress.in [2]: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfHYiv5nIfZ4-iu9EvsnXrHJ3DUAAB2kT709V-awdrySuUKZg/viewform?usp=sf_link Thanks, Vignesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zerothabhishek at gmail.com Tue Aug 22 12:54:56 2017 From: zerothabhishek at gmail.com (Abhishek Yadav) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:24:56 +0530 Subject: [Chennaipy] [Discussion] About scope of programming languages in Chennai's IT industry In-Reply-To: References: