[Baypiggies] Big changes to the BayPIGgies Meetups

Shannon -jj Behrens jjinux at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 22:51:14 EST 2016


+1
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:24 PM Mahmoud Hashemi <mahmoud at hatnote.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> Mahmoud
> https://github.com/mahmoud
> https://twitter.com/mhashemi
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:12 PM, readysky2-apple--- via Baypiggies <
> baypiggies at python.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* William Deegan <bdbaddog at gmail.com>
>> *To:*
>> *Cc:* BayPiggies <baypiggies at python.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 1:12 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Baypiggies] Big changes to the BayPIGgies Meetups
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Sounds like the position of the baypiggies membership is the current
>> meetup of the same name is being run by someone with no authority from the
>> baypiggies community?
>> (http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/)
>> Is that a safe statement?
>> Please respond +1, -1
>>
>> If the preponderance of answers is +1, I'll add the above statement to
>> the baypiggies.net website.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>> baypiggies.net site administrator
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Martin and Simeon, I'll shoot an email to Ewa Jodlowska and ask for
>> her thoughts on the trademark.
>>
>> Tonight, PuPPy member Joel Stanner is streaming our meeting featuring
>> PyCon chair Brandon Rhodes.
>>
>> If you're not making it to SF Python's meeting tonight, consider joining
>> us on our live stream, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bghG7zz8G2I
>>>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My goal in starting this thread was to get some clarity on what happened
>> to the SV/BayPIGgies meetup I enjoyed attending many a good talk at. Since
>> moving to SF I spend more time at the meetups here (with deep gratitude to
>> everyone involved in making the SF meetups a success!) but SV is where I
>> started going to Python meetups and given the notoriously long drive
>> between the South Bay and SF it serves the community well to have meetups
>> in SF as well as the South Bay.
>>
>> That said, as it is right now the current owner of the BayPIGgies Meetup
>> group is diluting the BayPIGgies brand and that has the effect of dividing
>> our community. That's not fair to Pythonistas (and proto-Pythonistas) here
>> - particularly those the South Bay - who are put off by the unwelcome
>> changes, not to mention the bulk of us who were unaware this happened at
>> all given the timing of it. It's one thing to help out, but quite another
>> to usurp a group and rebrand it as your own.
>>
>>  - Marty
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, January 13, 2016 11:31, Simeon Franklin wrote:
>> > +1 to this. IANAL so no idea as to whether there are legal grounds to
>> > complain. But the meetup has no connection to the user group which has
>> > been operating as BayPiggies since 2005 - it certainly doesn't seem
>> right.
>> >
>> >
>> > If SF Python Meetup can do anything to get the word out I'm happy to
>> help
>> >  any way I can. Perhaps we can help sourcing speakers too - we have a 3
>> > person committee sourcing talks now but its mostly Grace Law who knows
>> > everybody :)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> My group in Seattle's grown a lot faster when we use Meetup.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As I mentioned before, if the community's confused because of the
>> >> Meetup
>> >> instance there's an trademark issue at stake. It maybe something the
>> PSF
>> >>  can help with. á §
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> If the group gets revived, you can just disregard the Meetup site and
>> >>>  refer to Baypiggies.net.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> That among other things is what made me start questioning what's
>> >>>> going on here. And it's not free, it's $5 a head now.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/events/227481217/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Marty
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, January 13, 2016 08:32, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> FYI- Suresh hosted/organized the first (no-charge) Python meetup
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>> 2016,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> at the Hacker Dojo in Mtn View on Jan 30th, at 4:30PM. The topic
>> >>>>> is "Using Python to Analyze Datacubes in Astronomy"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you want to talk with him about the recent changes with the
>> >>>>> Python
>> >>>>> Meetup group, you can find him there.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Martin Falatic
>> >>>>> <martin at falatic.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> So I recently got an email saying I needed to pay $20 to stay
>> >>>>>> in the BayPIGgies Meetup group. Figuring it's been good so far
>> >>>>>> and not
>> >>>> knowing
>> >>>>>> things had significantly changed I paid it. Now I see that
>> >>>>>> every upcoming Meetup has a fee attached to it as well (and
>> >>>>>> they're no
>> >>>> longer
>> >>>>>> at LinkedIn and they're on odd days of the week - e.g.,
>> >>>>>> Saturday).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And since when did the acronym change? Is the Meetup group not
>> >>>>>> related to http://www.baypiggies.net/ and this mailing list now?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> What's going on?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> - Marty
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>
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