[Baypiggies] What am I missing using a text editor with some good Python features instead of an IDE?

[Shannon -jj Behrens]

I've written a fair amount on Komodo:

http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2008/12/editors-i-dig-komodo-edit.html
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2011/04/python-python-ides-panel.html
http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2009/01/ide-netbeans.html

-jj

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Nathan Pease <n8pease at gmail.com> wrote:

> no one's mentioned Komodo. I rely on it for remote debugging. (of course
> I'm in the realm of IDE features rather than text editor features but the
> conversation has swung that way somewhat). Other folks in the office use
> Eclipse for remote debugging too but I've never bothered to get familiar
> with it.
> I wouldn't be able to work without at least a local debugger (or at least
> I wouldn't like it). And we embed python interpreters in apps we develop (I
> <3 SWIG) so the ability to remote debug is pretty crucial too.
>
> nate
>
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dirk Bergstrom <dirk at otisbean.com> wrote:
>
>> On 03/06/2012 10:39 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
>>
>>>  * As far as I can tell, IntelliJ is the best IDE for Java, PyCharm is
>>> the best IDE for Python, and RubyMine is the best IDE for Ruby.  They're
>>> all from the same company.
>>>
>>
>> Does JetBrains have some uber-IDE that combines all three?  One of the
>> reasons I've stuck with Eclipse is that I have projects in multiple
>> languages (I once built an app with significant amounts of Java, Python and
>> Javascript, plus some Perl and shell).  At work I maintain one app that's
>> 60/40 JavaScript/Python and another that's 90/10 Ruby/Javascript.  Eclipse
>> handles transitions between languages seamlessly.  I'd hate to have to keep
>> multiple IDEs open...
>
>
> PyCharm and RubyMine each work with all the standard web technologies
> extremely well.  That's the biggest reason I don't use WingIDE--I suspect
> PyCharm and RubyMine do a better job with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.
>
> There is a $500 monster called IntelliJ Ultimate that gives you everything
> in one IDE.  I tried it out, and although it's supposed to be a strict
> superset of PyCharm, it didn't work out so well for me.  For instance, it
> didn't recognize when a subdirectory contained a Google App Engine project.
>  Apparently, if you know what you're doing, you can configure it correctly.
>  However, sticking with PyCharm for Python and RubyMine for Ruby is
> simpler.  I've only had one project that combined the two, and thankfully,
> I don't have to work on that project any more.  I'm not the only one who's
> had this problem.
>
> Dirk, if you're familiar with Eclipse, I doubt that switching to PyCharm
> would take you very long.  I'd be surprised if it took you more than a few
> hours to start seeing some productivity improvements.
>
> As for Vi keybindings for Eclipse, I've heard there is a commercial
> project that adds them.  The Vim keybindings for IntelliJ are okay, but not
> spectacular.
>
> Happy Hacking!
> -jj
>
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