[BangPypers] Object Oriented Programming in python

[Dhananjay Nene]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Saager Mhatre <saager.mhatre at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 15, 2013 4:10 AM, "Dhananjay Nene" <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Pranav Raj <pranav09032 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> > Hi fellow python lovers,
>> >
>> > I wanted to do OOPS programming in python, but i just found out that
> there are no private variables in python. Does anyone know why python
> classes have no private variables and why python's OOPS concept are a lot
> different from other programming languages?
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/1641236/12754
>>
>
> Meh! Weak arguments, strongly made.
>
>> I am not sure what the history or reasoning was. But encapsulation is not
> considered particularly desirable or useful.
>>
>
> Which generally lead to poor (or at least poorer) abstractions; but I
> digress.

Leaky ??  :)
>
>> I think OOPs concepts across a number of languages are quite different.
> You will find python having superior constructs eg. metaclasses etc. if you
> were comparing Python OOP to C++/Java.
>
> Superior constructs implemented inferiorly. Meteclasses are much^3 more
> powerful in Groovy, Ruby and SmallTalk (where some would claim Python
> borrowed them from; but that's just not true.)

I wonder if you meant syntactically/stylistically. Would be keen to
learn, if there are examples where ruby / groovy (I don't know much
about smalltalk) allow things that python does not.